--- Log opened Fri Dec 02 00:00:30 2011
20111202 00:04:49-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: String/feature-freeze active for trunk | 172 bugs, 326 feature requests, 13 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20111202 00:06:04< Ivanovic> boucman: if you have an idea for a possible talk during fosdem please submit it to the fosdem list
20111202 00:06:14< Ivanovic> mordante: same for you
20111202 00:06:22< Ivanovic> and of course everyone else
20111202 00:06:23< boucman> ok
20111202 00:06:57< boucman> an interesting subject would be competitive gaming in wesnoth... I probably don't have the knowledge to do it, but if we have an MP dev around...
20111202 00:07:03< Ivanovic> (that is: i'll try to go for one talk per org unless there are less orgs than available time slots, then i will try to fill things up)
20111202 00:07:18< Ivanovic> boucman: currently there are no proposals for the gaming dev room (yet)
20111202 00:07:33< boucman> oh...
20111202 00:07:37< Ivanovic> boucman: so yeah, in case there is nothing else it might become rather wesnoth centric...
20111202 00:07:50< Ivanovic> so other proposals are *very* welcome, too
20111202 00:08:11< Ivanovic> just that others see that there are some proposed talks (no need to have slides done when proposing, just an idea is enough)
20111202 00:08:57< Ivanovic> might be that people are just afraid to submit something, too
20111202 00:09:04< Ivanovic> (and in need of seeing some example)
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20111202 02:01:19< CIA-81> espreon * r52150 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth-lib/en_GB.po): Updated the British English translation.
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20111202 10:16:55< Ivanovic> moin
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20111202 11:04:59< Ivanovic> AI0867, esr, fendrin, gabba, grzywacz, loonycyborg, Rhonda, shadowmaster, Soliton, wesbot, everyone else who cares: what do you think is the status regarding a 1.9.12 release?
20111202 11:05:04< Ivanovic> maybe on sunday or monday
20111202 11:06:03< grzywacz> :)
20111202 11:06:42< Ivanovic> gabba: the multiturn moves in whiteboard are available again, right?
20111202 11:06:58< Ivanovic> fendrin: do replays of LoW (newly created ones with trunk) work?
20111202 11:08:48< Ivanovic> esr: i would really welcome it if you also had a look at the release announcement and helped filling it with content as well as doing some prose polishing
20111202 11:08:54< Ivanovic> http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/website/start/1.10/template.html?view=log
20111202 11:10:57< Kolbur> hello, what is the procedure regarding the decision of which bugs are blockers for 1.10 and which ones aren't?
20111202 11:13:17< Rhonda> Ivanovic: duh. Please ping me a day before so I can send you translations what I have …
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20111202 11:22:58< Ivanovic> Kolbur: the procedure is us/me having a good guess
20111202 11:28:08< Kolbur> ah...
20111202 11:29:54< Soliton> Ivanovic: i hope to have time on sunday to properly fix that mp bug so sunday evening/monday sounds good.
20111202 11:36:51< Kolbur> i find it difficult to search for certain bugs on the bugtracker, is there any secret to it?
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20111202 11:37:48< Kolbur> for exmaple there is a bug in 1.8 where a player is stuck in the replay on turn 1 when he rejoined a game as observer with the same nick after he disconnected
20111202 11:38:08< Kolbur> i'm pretty sure it's already reported somewhere but can't find it :/
20111202 11:49:24< Soliton> no trick i'm afraid, just try to find good keywords.
20111202 11:51:49< Soliton> wesbot: bug #17533
20111202 11:51:50< wesbot> Bug #17533  Assigned to: None  Status: None  Priority: 5 - Normal
20111202 11:51:50< wesbot> Summary: Replay mode fail when re-joining a completed game in linger mode with a player nick
20111202 11:51:53< wesbot> Original submission: 1) Join a game over MP.2) Finish the game.3) Exit the
20111202 11:51:56< wesbot>  linger mode, leaving the other player in.4) Rejoin.5) Instead of playing th
20111202 11:51:59< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?17533
20111202 11:52:13< Soliton> Kolbur: ^
20111202 11:52:43< Soliton> i actually just used item group multiplayer for that one.
20111202 11:54:06< Kolbur> ah thx, i need to pay more attention to item group it seems :)
20111202 11:56:21< Soliton> btw, bug #16061 sounds like won't fix or a feature request. change of leader name on control change is intended afair.
20111202 11:58:41< Soliton> bug #16001 sounds like an easy coding task.
20111202 12:02:01< Kolbur> wesbot: bug #16001
20111202 12:02:02< wesbot> Bug #16001  Assigned to: None  Status: None  Priority: 5 - Normal
20111202 12:02:02< wesbot> Summary: add possibility to give reason for "ignore"
20111202 12:02:03< wesbot> Original submission: It might be useful if users can enter a reason (string of
20111202 12:02:05< wesbot>  text) for putting others on their ignore list, mostly because there may be vari
20111202 12:02:08< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?16001
20111202 12:03:21< Ivanovic> fendrin: i assigned some newer bug reports regarding LoW to you
20111202 12:06:31< loonycyborg> Soliton: wesnothd can either serve users directly, redirect them or use "proxy connections". What are those for?
20111202 12:07:50< Soliton> the proxy connections? well, to proxy..?
20111202 12:08:41< Soliton> like i ran a proxy for a bit so some guy could connect on a different port since the default was blocked for him.
20111202 12:10:02< loonycyborg> I was mainly wondering whether I can drop this for now during the rearchitecturing
20111202 12:11:10< Soliton> it's not particularly used afaik so that might be ok, yes.
20111202 12:12:08< loonycyborg> kk
20111202 12:12:20< Soliton> from the ANA work it sounded like proper proxy support is easy to do, btw. not sure if that was client or server side or both.
20111202 12:15:14< loonycyborg> Probably ANA does only clientside. At least command line args for proxy is only in client iirc.
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20111202 15:01:54< vultraz> wesbot: seen mordante?
20111202 15:01:55< wesbot> vultraz: The person with the nick mordante last spoke 5d 17h ago.  5d 17h ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth-de with the message: Quit: Leaving
20111202 15:02:31< vultraz> ungrammatical bot :P 
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20111202 19:01:26< shadowmaster> !tag 1.9.11
20111202 19:01:28< shikadibot> shadowmaster: Tag 1.9.11, revision 52066 (ivanovic) on Wed Nov 23 14:50:36 2011:
20111202 19:01:31< shikadibot> shadowmaster: released 1.9.11 (using r52065)
20111202 19:01:32< shikadibot> shadowmaster: Web interface URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=52066
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20111202 22:04:49< kernigh> I compiled Wesnoth svn trunk with CMake.
20111202 22:04:59< kernigh> Do I need to do "make install", or can I run Wesnoth without installing it?
20111202 22:05:26< Espreon> One doesn't compile anything with CMake. CMake makes something you can compile stuff with.
20111202 22:05:45< kernigh> Yes, I know, g++ did most of the work.
20111202 22:05:46< Espreon> But if you ran "make", you can just use "./wesnoth" to run the game.
20111202 22:06:30< kernigh> Ok, I thought  maybe "./wesnoth" was wrong, because I ran "./wesnoth" and it said, "could not initialize fonts".
20111202 22:06:38< kernigh> I can paste the error if I had somewhere to paste it...
20111202 22:06:47< Espreon> Hmmm, odd.
20111202 22:07:08< Espreon> Well, as long as things aren't trippy in-game, it's fine, I guess.
20111202 22:07:28< kernigh> It said "could not initialize fonts" and exited. The game never started.
20111202 22:07:51< Espreon> Ah.
20111202 22:08:10< kernigh> http://pastebin.com/MruHHd1J
20111202 22:08:41< kernigh> Maybe I need to change the data directory, there is nothing in /home/kernigh/prefix/share/wesnoth because I never installed.
20111202 22:09:05< Espreon> Yeah.
20111202 22:09:44< Espreon> Once you change it, it should work.
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20111202 22:10:43< kernigh> I did ./wesnoth --data-dir ../data, but that failed.
20111202 22:11:05< kernigh> ls ../data shows ai, campaigns, core, all that stuff; I thought that was a data directory.
20111202 22:11:26< Espreon> You need to point it to Wesnoth's root.
20111202 22:11:50< kernigh> Ok, "./wesnoth --data-dir .." works. Thank you!
20111202 22:12:09< kernigh> So I guess "./wesnoth" is wrong? I need to do "./wesnoth --data-dir .."? It is an out-of-source build.
20111202 22:12:36< Soliton> for an out-of-source build, yes.
20111202 22:12:46< Espreon> kernigh: No prob.
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20111202 22:23:40< fendrin> wesbot: seen zaroth?
20111202 22:23:41< wesbot> fendrin: Sorry, I don't know of zaroth.
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20111202 23:12:40< Soliton> Espreon, Ivanovic: can you point the reporter of bug #19091 to the right place to complain? (if there is anything to complain to begin with)
20111202 23:16:09< Espreon> Soliton: Very well.
20111202 23:17:27< Espreon> Soliton: Since the tracker isn't the right place to complain, should I just mark it as invalid and close it?
20111202 23:18:58< Soliton> sounds good.
20111202 23:19:07< Espreon> OK.
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20111202 23:22:59< Espreon> And ydone.
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