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20111204 02:02:30< CIA-81> ai0867 * r52152 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/libgithub.py: Open commit message file in write mode
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20111204 02:13:51< AI0867> mordante, torangan: I'm currently running my final tests. If they go as planned, I can upload all wescamp repos from my latest rsync (currently r3945) to github
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20111204 03:33:56< gabba> hmm. where does wesnoth store the last multiplayer user name you used (under Ubuntu)? I tried launching two test clients with a different --config-dir option, and they still try to use the same mp name when connecting to a server
20111204 03:35:13< anonymissimus> gabba: the --config-dir affects only the add-ons dir in teh userdata dir
20111204 03:35:21< anonymissimus> if I'm not mistaken
20111204 03:35:38< gabba> ah, that would be why
20111204 03:36:00< anonymissimus> so I would guess it's the pref file in your userdata dir
20111204 03:36:20< gabba> testing MP with several clients gets very annoying because they all try to use the same name :/
20111204 03:36:30< gabba> haven't found a workaround yet
20111204 03:36:55< anonymissimus> gabba: oh wait the saves dir is also affected
20111204 03:37:06< anonymissimus> but I noticed that cache/ is not
20111204 03:37:49< gabba> it creates data, editor, persist and saves subdirs, +save_index.gz
20111204 03:38:40< gabba> Looks like a bug to me, unless there's a clever reason why it's like that... as it is the command line option half-works
20111204 03:39:11< anonymissimus> i wouoldnt consider that a bug, it's called config-dir not userdata-dir
20111204 03:40:05< gabba> I would tend to consider my username as part of my configuration, not as data...
20111204 03:40:22< anonymissimus> "config" means wml
20111204 03:40:33< anonymissimus> the pref file isn't
20111204 03:40:41< gabba> Ok yeah, wesnoth terminology
20111204 03:41:33< anonymissimus> but it looks like it...ok well maybe you're right and it is a bug :)
20111204 03:41:37< gabba> doesn't make any sense for poor users though
20111204 03:41:53< anonymissimus> IIRC I remember the prefs gettign read in as config
20111204 03:41:53< gabba> who don't stare at config objects in the code all day like us
20111204 03:45:56< gabba> anonymissimus: while you're around, do you know anything about the inner workings of the unit map?
20111204 03:47:00< gabba> I'll just ask my question in case you or somebody else can answer, actually:
20111204 03:48:22< gabba> I'm getting an error message like this every time I insert a unit in the unit map, get an iterator to it and then extract the unit: "Extracting unknown - unknown from unit map. Underlying ID changed from 18446744073709551614 to 4294967294 between insertion and extraction, requiring an exhaustive search of umap_."
20111204 03:49:16< shadowmaster> anonymissimus: I don't know about you, but --config-dir affects the real preferences dir, not just the add-ons path
20111204 03:49:55< shadowmaster> the default MP username on Linux is the system username
20111204 03:50:11< gabba> Basically it's the iterator freaking out on destruction, but I'm not trying to dereference it after it's invalid or anything
20111204 03:50:41< shadowmaster> more specifically, the USER environment variable
20111204 03:51:23< shadowmaster> failing that, "player" (after a gettext lookup)
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20111204 03:52:38< gabba> shadowmaster: if I launch two clients with $wesnoth --server localhost --config-dir foo and $wesnoth --server localhost --config-dir bar, the second inevitably fails to connect because it tries to use the same name as the first. I change it for the second, and next time they both try to use that new name.
20111204 03:52:46< anonymissimus> gabba: no I'm clueless
20111204 03:53:16< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: I'm sure about the cache dir that it's nto affected by --config-dir
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20111204 03:53:37< shadowmaster> I only know /tmp/foo/cache gets populated
20111204 03:53:39< gabba> anonymissimus: ok. Too bad I don't remembered who fiddled in there before thonsew
20111204 03:53:57< gabba> I might ask git blame
20111204 03:54:10< shadowmaster> it's possible there are differences depending on whether XDG layout is compiled in or not
20111204 03:55:16< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: in my windows source tree, there's userdata/cache which is used on win
20111204 03:55:50< anonymissimus> the cache dir on ubuntu is somewhere else though using exactly this same userdata dir (with --config-dir switch)
20111204 03:56:05< shadowmaster> er, XDG layout isn't compiled in, it depends on environment variables
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20111204 03:56:46< shadowmaster> XDG_DATA_HOME, XDG_CONFIG_HOME, XDG_CACHE_HOME
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20111204 03:56:52< shadowmaster> it's possible those take precedence over the command line options
20111204 03:58:19< shadowmaster> try checking whether those are set: env | grep 'XDG_.*HOME'
20111204 03:58:42< gabba> I do have XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/gnome-classic:/usr/share/gnome:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/
20111204 03:58:59< gabba> XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg/xdg-gnome-classic:/etc/xdg
20111204 03:59:25< gabba> and over here no cache gets created under foo and bar
20111204 03:59:59< shadowmaster> ah, there are compiled-in defaults
20111204 04:00:13< shadowmaster> and that layout is chosen when compiled without PREFERENCES_DIR defined
20111204 04:01:07< gabba> All this is a wee bit confusing
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20111204 05:25:10< CIA-81> espreon * r52153 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth/ang.po wesnoth/ang@latin.po wesnoth-lib/ang@latin.po): Updated the Old English translation.
20111204 05:37:04< Espreon> Ivanovic: I'm fine.
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20111204 06:23:29< fendrin> Ivanovic: I am fine with the release date, considering the bugs are fixed or of a minor nature. I will take care about the patch, but after you are done with the release.
20111204 06:24:59< fendrin> Ivanovic: or maybe not, and precessing the patch first if I do have the patience to find time this Sunday. But don't count on me before 16°°.
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20111204 08:19:05< gabba> Rhonda: actually I'm hesitant to mail 650379@bugs.debian.org to inform about the fixed bug, since they don't seem to protect email addresses at all. I get enough spam as it is (thankfully gmail catches 99% of it, but still).
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20111204 10:02:33< Ivanovic> moin
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20111204 12:18:09< Rhonda> Ivanovic: I'll mail you what I have any moment.
20111204 12:18:16< Ivanovic> great
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20111204 12:36:46< Soliton> Ivanovic: no need to wait for me with the release, haven't gotten far with the proper fix for #16299 yet and not feeling too well today.
20111204 12:37:00< Ivanovic> Soliton: okay
20111204 12:37:07< Ivanovic> i hope you get well again soon!
20111204 12:37:45< Soliton> thanks.
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20111204 13:18:12< CIA-81> ivanovic * r52154 /trunk/po/ (3 files in 3 dirs): updated German translation
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20111204 14:08:33< CIA-81> ivanovic * r52155 /trunk/ (changelog src/CMakeLists.txt): fixed linker errors when using cmake on OpenBSD (fixed bug #19096, thanks to George Koehler <kernigh>)
20111204 14:19:59< Ivanovic> AI0867: since it is somehow lua related, can you have a look at this report? https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?19086
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20111204 14:30:29< CIA-81> ivanovic * r52156 /trunk/ (changelog src/pathfind/astarsearch.cpp): fixed a gcc warning in src/pathfind/astarsearch.cpp when compilung under openbsd (fixed bug #19095, thanks George Koehler <kernigh>)
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20111204 14:54:41< timotei> and people are back
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20111204 14:57:22< Crendgrim> does by chance anyone know something about Wesnoth for AmigaOS?
20111204 14:57:26< vultraz> yuppp
20111204 14:57:27< vultraz> :)
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20111204 14:57:34< loonycyborg> Crendgrim: There is some amiga-specific conditional compilation in filesystem.cpp, but amigaos support is unmaintained afaik..
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20111204 14:57:42< loonycyborg> At least I never saw any commits there.
20111204 14:58:18< Crendgrim> loonycyborg: okay.. well, there is some interesting fact about it
20111204 14:58:23< Crendgrim> http://www.amigasoft.net/
20111204 14:58:36< Crendgrim> they announce the "latest version Wesnoth 1.8.6"
20111204 14:58:42< Crendgrim> *1.3.6
20111204 14:58:52< Crendgrim> and I'm now unsure whether that actually is 1.8.6, or not.
20111204 14:59:17< Crendgrim> especially since in the Wiki there's now a link to "1.3.6" (whichever version that may be) under "Current stable version"..
20111204 14:59:27< Crendgrim> (the Wiki: Wesnoth's Wiki)
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20111204 15:02:34< vultraz> http://imagebin.org/186871 is a window like that even possible to make (small boxes=checkboxes, large boxes=icons)
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20111204 16:43:27< AI0867> Ivanovic: I haven't touched LuaAI much, I think anonymissimus has a better idea of how it works
20111204 16:43:39< AI0867> anonymissimus: ^ refers to bug #19086
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20111204 17:11:37< anonymissimus> AI0867: no, ask nephro
20111204 17:11:44< anonymissimus> he wrote that tag...
20111204 17:12:03< anonymissimus> I'm clueless about lua ai
20111204 17:12:59< anonymissimus> AI0867: although I know the bug poster from the forum and he know what he's doing I think
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20111204 17:53:58< AI0867> anonymissimus: do you know how to contact him? I haven't really touched lua since silene left
20111204 17:55:22< timotei> AI0867: 1.2) State your preferred email address.
20111204 17:55:22< timotei> nephro dot wes at gmail dot com.
20111204 17:57:57< AI0867> timotei: is this about wescamp? I don't see either of your nicks in the list of committers
20111204 17:58:01< AI0867> unless I've missed one
20111204 17:58:24< timotei> AI0867: well, I understood that you don't know how to contact Nephro :P
20111204 17:58:39< AI0867> oh
20111204 17:58:43< AI0867> completely missed that
20111204 17:58:48< AI0867> the connection that is
20111204 17:58:54< AI0867> I'll fire off an email
20111204 17:59:43< AI0867> wesbot: seen nephro
20111204 17:59:43< wesbot> AI0867: The person with the nick Nephro 31d 3h ago they left with the message: Ping timeout: 260 seconds
20111204 18:04:49-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: String/feature-freeze active for trunk | 171 bugs, 326 feature requests, 13 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20111204 18:24:51< CIA-79> ai0867 * r52157 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/libgithub.py: Don't check errors on push for now, it writes to stderr even on success
20111204 18:24:53< CIA-79> ai0867 * r52158 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/ (libgithub.py wescamp.py): More fixes to git-mode of wescamp.py and libgithub
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20111204 20:02:07< Rhonda> Ivanovic, are you done yet?
20111204 20:04:21< Ivanovic> no
20111204 20:08:08< Rhonda> Because I have the German tutorial in the works, unfuzzying a fair bit.
20111204 20:12:19< Rhonda> Ivanovic: I'll send you latest in one hour, if you can/want to wait for it.  If not, that's fine too.
20111204 20:13:48< anonymissimus> vultraz: and btw thanks for trying my addon
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20111204 20:39:32< Rhonda> duh, noticed even a wrong translation due to the fuzzy marking for changing ' to ’
20111204 20:40:47< AI0867> maybe we should just randomly mark 20% of all strings fuzzy every stable to catch errors like that
20111204 20:41:00< AI0867> ;)
20111204 20:42:08< anonymissimus> btw Rhonda ; the sentence "This save is from a different version of the game. Do you want to try to load it?" is translated incorrectly in german
20111204 20:42:19< anonymissimus> it says "frühere version"
20111204 20:42:36< anonymissimus> but it also shows for loading a save from a newer version with an older one
20111204 20:43:02< Rhonda> anonymissimus: I think that's the main po file and thus chrber's domain.
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20111204 20:43:29< anonymissimus> that string is from savegame.cpp
20111204 20:43:58< Rhonda> Also, I wonder, why was ' changed to ’ and ... NOT changed to …?
20111204 20:44:25< Rhonda> AI0867: There you have a fair amount of random strings for the next release. :)
20111204 20:44:39< Rhonda> Though they won't be truly random.
20111204 20:45:45< AI0867> Rhonda: ask espreon
20111204 20:45:52< AI0867> he's the typography tyrant now
20111204 20:46:04< Rhonda> anonymissimus: Please mention it in #wesnoth-de, it's not in my domains, and can't forward it for you due to personal local constraints.
20111204 20:46:20< Rhonda> Espreon: Please change … to … soonish. ;)
20111204 20:46:22< Rhonda> bleah
20111204 20:46:32< Rhonda> Espreon: Please change ... to … soonish. ;)
20111204 20:47:03< Rhonda> Espreon: It looks strange, changing ' to ’ but not using the ellispis character.
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20111204 21:58:39< anonymissimus> Ivanovic: what's up with the release ...?
20111204 21:58:52< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: was doing some other stuff over the last hours
20111204 21:59:02< Ivanovic> am not 100% sure if i want to release now or wait till i had some sleep
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20111204 22:01:11< shadowmaster> The bug count seems ridiculously high for a third beta.
20111204 22:01:55< shadowmaster> Not saying that it should *block* further beta releases, but at least it should go under 100 b[Defore the first RC.
20111204 22:05:06< gabba>   Ivanovic: sleep first then. I'm working on adding stuff to the changelog for once.
20111204 22:05:24< gabba> shadowmaster: I agree
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20111204 22:12:27< kernigh> wmllint wants to change this line:  caption=_ Mages
20111204 22:12:36< kernigh> To this:  caption=_ _ Mages
20111204 22:12:47< kernigh> How many _ does it need?
20111204 22:12:58 * anonymissimus considers the bug count always too high no matter what ;)
20111204 22:13:11< shadowmaster> kernigh: try caption=_ "Mages"
20111204 22:13:45< anonymissimus> Ivanovic: shadowmaster nevertheless it looked like a good idea to make a release to prevent the duplicate reports
20111204 22:13:46< un214> if I set bug count = 0 is that still too high?
20111204 22:13:49< shadowmaster> wmllint doesn't notice it's already a translatable string unless it's surrounded in quotes (no idea if the game does either)
20111204 22:14:00< anonymissimus> un214: no thats the only acceptable one
20111204 22:14:17< kernigh> According to http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SyntaxWML the quotes are required in _ "string".
20111204 22:14:22< un214> I like your style. Unachievable but a noble fight
20111204 22:14:48< anonymissimus> well I achieve it in my addons
20111204 22:14:52< anonymissimus> almost
20111204 22:15:07< anonymissimus> that is, there is never any bug which I know of
20111204 22:15:40< anonymissimus> if you know of a problem, fix it before coding anything else
20111204 22:15:46< anonymissimus> simple rule
20111204 22:16:04< anonymissimus> if you wait, you forget what you did that caused the bug
20111204 22:16:13< anonymissimus> so it gets harder the more you wait
20111204 22:17:05< anonymissimus> and there come some stuff you did never though of before anyway during some real tests so it's good if you don't have stacked bugs
20111204 22:17:28< anonymissimus> this is of course much easier with such a simple program like a wesnoth addon
20111204 22:17:42< anonymissimus> even my complex ones
20111204 22:19:02< kernigh> wmllint also wants to change colour_lock= to color_lock=, and [removeitem] to [remove_item], and change a few image paths.
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20111204 22:19:16< kernigh> I am going to keep the conversion, and manually fix the multiple _ _ _.
20111204 22:23:57< shadowmaster> kernigh: in 1.9.x "colour" was changed to "color" in various places for consistency with the game's native variant of English
20111204 22:24:48< shadowmaster> if you are in doubt about some of wmllint's decisions you can probably check the changelog
20111204 22:24:54< kernigh> That is good, I already say "color".
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20111204 22:25:33< anonymissimus> kernigh: remove_item is correct
20111204 22:26:03< kernigh> The WML had [removeitem] in it, wmllint changed it to [remove_item].
20111204 22:26:11< anonymissimus> yes
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20111204 22:36:06< CIA-79> ivanovic * r52159 /trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): updated German and Italian translation
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20111204 22:55:59< gabba> Ivanovic: can I upload my changelog updates or are you already packaging?
20111204 22:56:26< gabba> hi boucman
20111204 22:56:31< boucman> hey
20111204 22:57:01< gabba> Ivanovic: oh well, you pick which svn version you want anyways, so here come changes
20111204 22:58:39< shadowmaster> gabba: when he starts testing prior to tagging he announces in the topic, so it should be okay right now
20111204 22:58:54< shadowmaster> there hasn't been a version update commit either
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20111204 23:02:33< AI0867> Ivanovic: how far off do you consider the RCs to be?
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20111204 23:10:27< Ivanovic> AI0867: hmm, i am not too sure
20111204 23:10:48< Ivanovic> yes, the bug counter is freaking high, but i am not sure how many of those really need fixing or are just "old leftovers"
20111204 23:11:21< Ivanovic> what i heard so far is that trunk atm seems to be about as stable as 1.8.1 was
20111204 23:11:37< Ivanovic> even though at that time the bug counter was significantly below 100
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20111204 23:14:39< gabba> hmm, CIA bot seems to be sleeping
20111204 23:15:18< gabba> anyways, I just commited quite a few changes
20111204 23:16:26< AI0867> wesbot: topic
20111204 23:16:27< wesbot> AI0867: Don't be impatient, wait until something changes...  *tsk*
20111204 23:17:04< AI0867> there's at least one more fix I want to get in before 1.10, but wescamp takes priority
20111204 23:18:19< gabba> AI0867: well, realistically if we want the whiteboard to be releasable I still need a few rounds of release beta + get feedback, that should buy you time
20111204 23:19:55< gabba> Any of you guys has knowledge about the unit map inner workings?
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20111204 23:26:37< CIA-79> gabba * r52168 /trunk/src/whiteboard/ (manager.cpp mapbuilder.cpp utility.cpp utility.hpp): Build the planned unit map even if the action queue is empty, since the mapbuilding does additional things such as removing invisible units from the map.
20111204 23:26:37< CIA-79> gabba * r52167 /trunk/ (RELEASE_NOTES changelog players_changelog): Entries in both changelog and release notes for whiteboard changes since 1.9.11
20111204 23:26:37< CIA-79> gabba * r52166 /trunk/src/whiteboard/ (move.cpp move.hpp): Better way to avoid unused param warning.
20111204 23:26:37< CIA-79> gabba * r52165 /trunk/src/whiteboard/ (manager.cpp move.cpp): 
20111204 23:26:37< CIA-79> Reduce scope of some unit map iterators.
20111204 23:26:37< CIA-79> Those in add/remove_temp_modifier() of the move class were just asking to be used after their unit gets moved. Supposedly the unit map can handle that, but avoiding out of principle.
20111204 23:26:38< CIA-79> gabba * r52164 /trunk/src/whiteboard/ (recall.cpp recall.hpp recruit.cpp recruit.hpp): Cleaned up the use of fake/real units in recruit and recall actions, and fixed a memory leak along the way.
20111204 23:26:38< CIA-79> gabba * r52163 /trunk/src/CMakeLists.txt: Added missing test file to cmake. I checked that the test builds and passes fine beforehand.
20111204 23:26:39< CIA-79> gabba * r52162 /trunk/src/mouse_events.cpp: Don't keep an iterator around for no good reason.
20111204 23:26:39< CIA-79> gabba * r52161 /trunk/src/game_display.hpp: Remove commented code
20111204 23:26:56< CIA-79> gabba * r52160 /trunk/src/whiteboard/side_actions.cpp: Change logging level of some traces.
20111204 23:36:00< gabba> Ivanovic: I don't know tschmitz's wb netcode well enough yet to be 100% sure about network compatibility, so better tell players they all have to upgrade to the new beta for MP.
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20111204 23:59:43< anonymissimus> not that gabba has dcommitted it's better to wait a few days xD
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20111204 23:59:59< gabba> you... you... grrr!
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