--- Log opened Mon Dec 05 00:00:16 2011
--- Day changed Mon Dec 05 2011
20111205 00:00:16< gabba> :P
20111205 00:00:23< anonymissimus> but it's true that teh bug counter contains at least some bugs which have been present "always"
20111205 00:00:48< gabba> fixing bugs in the whiteboard is like playing Mikado
20111205 00:01:25< anonymissimus> sure, and I find it great you are really trying to get the whiteboard stable for 1.10, no offence
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20111205 00:06:29< anonymissimus> this bug for instance bug #18715  was present since ever I think
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20111205 00:51:11< CIA-79> ai0867 * r52169 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/ (libgithub.py wescamp.py): More git wescamp fixes
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20111205 01:04:21< gabba> wesbot: bug #18715
20111205 01:04:21< wesbot> Bug #18715  Assigned to: None  Status: None  Priority: 5 - Normal
20111205 01:04:22< wesbot> Summary: Game hangs at loading screen after flushing caches and save index and pressing F5
20111205 01:04:24< wesbot> Original submission: While in game, when I press F5 after deleting save_index.
20111205 01:04:27< wesbot> gz and ~/.cache/wesnoth, the game hangs at the loading screen.
20111205 01:04:30< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?18715
20111205 01:18:13< kernigh> I seem to need to change "terrain/castle/encampment-tile.png" to "terrain/castle/encampment/regular-tile.png". I guess wmllint never caught that.
20111205 01:18:48< kernigh> Maybe it is too weird that this scenario uses tiles as menu items.
20111205 01:19:22< anonymissimus> wmlscope should catch such stuff
20111205 01:19:43< anonymissimus> unless you have that in lua code :(
20111205 01:20:11< kernigh> No, it is in a MENU_IMG_TXT2, whatever that does.
20111205 01:20:31< kernigh> I am porting someone else's code to 1.9, I know not all these parts of WML.
20111205 01:22:24< anonymissimus> yeah then do yourself a favor and run wmlscope
20111205 01:22:43< anonymissimus> since in most 1.8 UMC there are a lot of unresolved macros
20111205 01:23:05< anonymissimus> without wmlscope you'd need to fix them one by one by restarting wesnoth
20111205 01:23:22< anonymissimus> relaunching the addon I mean
20111205 01:24:12< anonymissimus> C:\\wesnoth\\data\\tools\\wmlscope --unresolved C:\\wesnoth\\data\\core C:\\wesnoth\\userdata\\data\\add-ons\\Settlers_of_Wesnoth
20111205 01:27:02< anonymissimus> (and similar)
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20111205 01:40:05< kernigh> wmlscope just made a huge list of unresolved references.
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20111205 02:58:55< AI0867> mordante, torangan, espreon: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Wescamp.py_Instructions <-- I'm not done uploading everything yet, so you can't use it yet, but if you find anything unclear, do tell.
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20111205 03:13:11< AI_Android> Ivanovic: A translator with a forum nick of 'koan' would like a translator title.
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20111205 03:17:49< shadowmaster> I don't see anyone like that in the game credits.
20111205 03:18:26< shadowmaster> hm, or perhaps I just did. Dutch, right?
20111205 03:19:27< shadowmaster> AI0867: done
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20111205 03:52:11< shadowmaster> stupid hideous end turn button
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20111205 08:50:45< Rhonda> did we release?
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20111205 09:25:50< Rhonda> doesn't look like
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20111205 11:16:27< Ivanovic> moin
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20111205 14:27:12< CIA-79> ai0867 * r52170 /trunk/data/core/about.cfg: Translation credits update
20111205 14:27:22< AI0867> shadowmaster: good point ^
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20111205 15:01:33< Espreon> Rhonda: Eh, we decided not to go with that since the spacing between the dots, last time I checked, is the same (in-game) for both in the font we use.
20111205 15:02:22< Espreon> And I don't feel like generating at least one hundred pofix rules for something so insignificant right now.
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20111205 15:36:26< vultraz> http://imagebin.org/187088 http://imagebin.org/187083 There seems to be a 'Voidentry 
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20111205 15:36:32< vultraz> Void entry*
20111205 15:36:43< vultraz> in the unit's Terrain Stats in help
20111205 15:37:33< vultraz> I can click on it if debug's activated, but get the error in the second screenshot. without debug I just get a text label
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20111205 15:53:59< Ivanovic> vultraz: i can't find "terrain_off_map" in the current sources
20111205 15:54:18< Ivanovic> vultraz: can you check if that one is possibly just there in your preferences file as a known terrain or if it comes from an addon?
20111205 15:54:42< vultraz> mk
20111205 15:55:00< Ivanovic> that is: where in the help are you exactly to see this list?
20111205 15:56:35< vultraz> I see it in TSL, NX (my camp), HttH
20111205 15:56:53< Espreon> *HttT
20111205 15:57:03< vultraz> yeah
20111205 15:57:05< vultraz> sorry
20111205 15:57:26< Ivanovic> vultraz: over here there is no void entry in trunk in the terrain list in the ingame help
20111205 15:57:48< Ivanovic> (that is neither in the "Terrains" section nor in the units overview where defense and stuff is displayed=
20111205 15:59:57< Ivanovic> AI0867, elias, Espreon, esr, loonycyborg, shadowmaster, Soliton, zookeeper, everyone else who cares: ready for 1.9.12?
20111205 16:00:26< loonycyborg> yes
20111205 16:05:35< vultraz> Ivanovic: humm..I'm still on 1.9.10, so maybe that explains it
20111205 16:05:48< vultraz> though the changelog doesn't mention it
20111205 16:05:49< Ivanovic> vultraz: please grep in your userdata folder
20111205 16:06:03< Ivanovic> vultraz: i'd assume it is either in some UMC or it is a leftover in your preferences
20111205 16:06:07< Espreon> Ivanovic: not yet.
20111205 16:06:16< Espreon> Just give me ten minutes.
20111205 16:06:28< Ivanovic> Espreon: okay
20111205 16:06:59< vultraz> Ivanovic: I tried removing the add-ons folder and relaunching wesnoth...still there
20111205 16:07:05< vultraz> already tried*
20111205 16:10:32< Ivanovic> vultraz: and your preferences file?
20111205 16:10:49< Ivanovic> are you sure that you removed the correct folder?
20111205 16:11:02< Ivanovic> you know, it is no longer .wesnoth unless you define the preference dir to use yourself
20111205 16:11:47< vultraz> I'm on a mac
20111205 16:11:58< Ivanovic> no idea where it is there
20111205 16:12:54< vultraz> ~/Library/Applocation\ Support/Wesnoth_1.9/
20111205 16:13:16< vultraz> Application*
20111205 16:15:10< vultraz> empty add-ons folder, fresh preferences file, still there
20111205 16:15:21< vultraz> humm
20111205 16:15:45< vultraz> lemme upgrade to 1.9.11 (or 1.9.12 if you're going to release it)
20111205 16:15:57< Ivanovic> vultraz: cd into the app and run this:
20111205 16:16:10< Ivanovic> grep -R "terrain_off_map" *
20111205 16:18:15< Espreon> Ivanovic: And give me a five more please...
20111205 16:19:50< Ivanovic> :)
20111205 16:23:09< CIA-79> espreon * r52171 /trunk/ (7 files in 6 dirs): Updated the Latin translation. Fixes bug #19115. Fixed a couple of typos in the changelogs.
20111205 16:23:26< Espreon> Ivanovic: Now I am ready.
20111205 16:24:21< Ivanovic> great
20111205 16:27:48< CIA-79> ivanovic * r52172 /trunk/ (198 files in 30 dirs): 
20111205 16:27:48< CIA-79> pot-update (preparing for 1.9.12, no new/changed strings)
20111205 16:27:48< CIA-79> regenerated doc files
20111205 16:29:08< Espreon> Ivanovic: Oh, actually, I just remembered something..
20111205 16:29:14< Espreon> Just give me a few minutes.
20111205 16:29:43< Ivanovic> okay
20111205 16:29:44< CIA-79> ivanovic * r52173 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog src/wesconfig.h): bump version to 1.9.12
20111205 16:31:28< Espreon> Ivanovic: Hmmm, OK, I'm good to go.
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20111205 16:31:55< Espreon> elias: http://units.wesnoth.org/trunk/en_US/Drake%20Warrior.html ... It seems that some garbage is somehow getting into the Drake Warrior's sprite.
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20111205 16:32:27< Espreon> I haven't seen the garbage in-game and I can't see it in the GIMP or anything...
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20111205 16:32:54< elias> Espreon: i suppose it is caused by that tool to convert the team colors
20111205 16:33:03< elias> but i'll check if it's some of my code instead
20111205 16:33:06< Espreon> OK.
20111205 16:33:24< elias> all i do is create an <img... link though, so I doubt it
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20111205 16:34:04< vultraz> Ivanovic: ok now that Void thing is gone, but now I can;t see the joystick options in preferences anymore
20111205 16:34:13< Ivanovic> huh?
20111205 16:34:45< vultraz> hang on...
20111205 16:35:18< Espreon> vultraz: The joystick options have been #ifdefed out for a long time.
20111205 16:35:28< Espreon> Well, maybe a month or two.
20111205 16:35:32< vultraz> ahh
20111205 16:35:50< vultraz> seems getting myself a new pref files's changed a lot
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20111205 16:36:13< vultraz> now I also only see the unit's def as applicable to teh current camp
20111205 16:36:21< vultraz> scen*
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20111205 16:57:20< Espreon> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=32115 ... I wonder if our CJK font even has the Japanese variants.
20111205 16:57:48< Espreon> Probably not.
20111205 16:58:26< Espreon> It doesn't help that probably all relevant info for contributing on our CJK font's website is in Chinese.
20111205 16:58:44< Espreon> ... so... I doubt it will get the variants anytime soon.
20111205 17:00:23< Espreon> Hmmmm, according to one screenshot, some characters aren't getting loaded.
20111205 17:01:18< Espreon> Hmmm, but the tips section is GUI2, so... blargh...
20111205 17:02:55< Espreon> Ivanovic: So, what do you think about this?
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20111205 17:15:59< Ivanovic> Espreon: i think "not sure at all"
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20111205 17:38:13< CIA-79> ivanovic * r52174 /tags/1.9.12/: tagged 1.9.12, using r52173
20111205 17:41:00< CIA-79> ivanovic * r52175 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog src/wesconfig.h): post release version bump to 1.9.12+svn
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20111205 17:45:47< Ivanovic> Rhonda: 1.9.12 is ready and awaits your packaging skills
20111205 17:46:27< Ivanovic> Espreon: was the tips section already GUI2 in 1.9.2?
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20111205 17:48:16< vultraz> so 1.9.12 is waiting for packaging?
20111205 17:48:21< Ivanovic> yes
20111205 17:48:44< vultraz> :)
20111205 17:48:58 * vultraz waits
20111205 17:49:22< Ivanovic> the pandora package should be available via sf.net in ~30min
20111205 17:50:07< vultraz> well, I;m waiting for the mac one
20111205 17:50:12< vultraz> I'm*
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20111205 18:39:58< Espreon> Ivanovic: I'm not sure.
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20111205 19:03:22< anonymissimus> zookeeper: could you please mark https://gna.org/bugs/?17141 as won't fx
20111205 19:03:56< anonymissimus> shadowmaster ordered we need to lower the bug count
20111205 19:04:11< Espreon> ... No.
20111205 19:04:35< Espreon> What's this obsession with the bug count?
20111205 19:04:39< shadowmaster> I didn't order anything.
20111205 19:06:02< Espreon> anonymissimus: If you want to lower the bug count, do it right, like by fixing things such as this: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?16571
20111205 19:06:50< anonymissimus> I fixed enough hard ones throughout the dev cycle
20111205 19:07:14< Espreon> Well, according to you, enough wasn't fixed.
20111205 19:07:45< shadowmaster> That you fixed N bugs doesn't mean you shouldn't keep fixing more if it's within your possibilities. We don't use a quota system here, this isn't a paid business.
20111205 19:08:11< Soliton> rather sounds like that report can be changed to a feature request.
20111205 19:08:27< Espreon> anonymissimus: And you certainly aren't getting a reward for fixing N bugs either.
20111205 19:08:42< shadowmaster> #17141 or #16571? the latter is most certainly a regression, not a FR
20111205 19:09:05< Soliton> the one anonymissimus mentioned.
20111205 19:09:52< Soliton> we should mark #16571 as a blocker for 1.10.
20111205 19:10:44< shadowmaster> it is marked as blocker since October 17th
20111205 19:11:20< zookeeper> anonymissimus, eh, i'd really rather fix it.
20111205 19:11:30< Soliton> ah, ok.
20111205 19:11:30< zookeeper> i'm afk atm though
20111205 19:12:12< shadowmaster> #18856 is also an open blocker
20111205 19:12:36< anonymissimus> wesbot: bug #18856
20111205 19:12:36< wesbot> Bug #18856  Assigned to: Jérémy Rosen <boucman>  Status: None  Priority: 7 - High
20111205 19:12:39< wesbot> Summary: Occasional lagging after a unit attacks
20111205 19:12:42< wesbot> Original submission: Sometimes, after a unit attacks, the game will lag and ev
20111205 19:12:45< wesbot> en temporarily freeze. The lag is so bad that it takes at least two seconds for 
20111205 19:12:48< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?18856
20111205 19:12:50< wesbot> Attached file (1st): https://gna.org/bugs/download.php?file_id=14457
20111205 19:12:57< shadowmaster> now that one I don't agree it should be a blocker since now that I understand what it's being reported in it I know it was also in 1.8 and (if ghost standing animations were in already) in 1.6
20111205 19:13:44< anonymissimus> sure ? I thought it was introduced recently
20111205 19:14:11< shadowmaster> ah, you have standing animations disabled
20111205 19:14:12< shadowmaster> nevermind in that case :p
20111205 19:14:26< boucman> didn't I fix that recently ?
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20111205 19:14:32< cyrilb> hi
20111205 19:14:43< shadowmaster> hi there, cyrilb
20111205 19:14:44< Espreon> Hello.
20111205 19:15:05< cyrilb> I was wondering how you manage translations, do you have a we interface or all translators are using poedit and such?
20111205 19:15:29< vultraz> well here sometimes the lag is permanent and I have to force quit 
20111205 19:15:29< cyrilb> s/we/web/
20111205 19:15:59< shadowmaster> cyrilb: the latter, although there's a web interface for statistics and catalog downloads at http://gettext.wesnoth.org
20111205 19:16:33< cyrilb> ok
20111205 19:16:47< cyrilb> is it something that was made specially for Wesnoth?
20111205 19:18:28< shadowmaster> boucman: your only commit after the bug was reported appears to be unrelated by the description (r51956)
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20111205 19:18:48< boucman> wesbot: log 51956
20111205 19:18:49< wesbot> boucman * r51956 : correct saurian attack haloes being flipped horizontally when attacking south
20111205 19:18:52< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=51956
20111205 19:18:55< boucman> indeed
20111205 19:19:38< shadowmaster> perhaps you were thinking of #18792 (mentioned in r51546)
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20111205 19:20:43< shadowmaster> cyrilb: I'd imagine so, yes. No idea who implemented it.
20111205 19:34:09< Ivanovic> cyrilb: yeah, those are some simple php scripts that were made for wesnoth
20111205 19:34:15< Ivanovic> cyrilb: they are available in our repo though
20111205 19:34:32< Ivanovic> cyrilb: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/website/gettext.wesnoth.org/
20111205 19:35:23< Ivanovic> cyrilb: and yes, we (okay, probably mainly I) made the decission that having a web interface for translations of a game is too problematic if you plan to get some consistent translations
20111205 19:35:44< cyrilb> I'm currently look at http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/pootle/index
20111205 19:35:46< Ivanovic> there it makes more sense to split work into "nice packages" (like one campaign per po file) and have the option to have those done by one translator
20111205 19:35:48< cyrilb> demo: http://pootle.locamotion.org/fr/filezilla/filezilla.po/translate/?page=5
20111205 19:36:05< cyrilb> Ivanovic: OK I understand
20111205 19:36:14< Ivanovic> those webtranslations are really a nice thing if you "only" have some interface stuff where the same terms tend to be used all over the world
20111205 19:36:29< Ivanovic> but in games you have a lot of stuff that is centered around athmosphere
20111205 19:37:09< Ivanovic> and to get consistent translations (eg the same translation for "elvish fighter" all over the game) it makes sense to place some (small) entry barrier and direct people via some coordinating efforts
20111205 19:37:47< Ivanovic> (while still providing as much assistance to remove "technical barriers" like having the translators merge po files themselves)
20111205 19:39:37< cyrilb> what about a no entry barrier translation process with review by trusted translators?
20111205 19:40:51< Ivanovic> reviewing stuff can be by far more work in the end than translating yourself
20111205 19:41:04< Ivanovic> since in the review you have to make sure that the style is consistent
20111205 19:41:13< Ivanovic> that *really* the correct terms were used
20111205 19:41:46< Ivanovic> which is more easy if you have direct contact before translations where you can say "hey, we gathered a list of common terms in the wiki, please make sure to look up stuff there"
20111205 19:41:57< Ivanovic> which is not possible with "drive by translations"
20111205 19:42:46< cyrilb> I see
20111205 19:45:40< Ivanovic> those tools are really great if it comes to translating rather common and widespread interfaces
20111205 19:46:17< Ivanovic> but personally i think that they are not the best solution for something which uses completely different stuff and where the context and atmosphere is the most important aspect
20111205 19:47:30< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: 1.9.12 windows release is uploaded.
20111205 19:47:36< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: cool!
20111205 19:47:45< Ivanovic> now only waiting for mac and debian
20111205 19:47:47< Ivanovic> ;)
20111205 19:48:38< cyrilb> debian packages are outdated?
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20111205 19:50:17< shadowmaster> 1.8.6 and 1.9.9 on testing (1.8.6 and 1.9.11 on sid) doesn't sound outdated to me
20111205 19:50:57< anonymissimus>  i was just idling with the new mp lobby and now there's a crash ;)
20111205 19:51:32< shadowmaster> IMHO the new MP lobby should be hidden from Preferences for 1.10
20111205 19:51:36< anonymissimus> "new mp lobby bugs" are a particularly large group
20111205 19:53:27< shadowmaster> of course at the end it's mordante's call
20111205 19:55:25< anonymissimus> like so often
20111205 19:55:47< Gambit> The new lobby still isn't ready?
20111205 19:55:59< Espreon> Of course it isn't.
20111205 19:56:01< shadowmaster> I don't think it was worked on during this cycle.
20111205 19:56:04< Gambit> Whoops.
20111205 19:56:16< Gambit> I'll remove that from the WIP release announcement later...
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20111205 20:00:01< mordante> servus
20111205 20:00:11< mordante> vultraz, you were looking for me?
20111205 20:00:13< Espreon> mordante: Ic grete þe.
20111205 20:00:19< mordante> hi Espreon 
20111205 20:00:23< vultraz> ahh
20111205 20:01:06< vultraz> I was playing around with that add-on dialogue some more: http://imagebin.org/186153
20111205 20:01:38< vultraz> and shadowmaster gives brutal critique 
20111205 20:02:34< vultraz> and also, http://imagebin.org/186871 Is it even possible to make a dialogue like that?
20111205 20:02:56< vultraz> (small boxes are checkboxes, larger ones are images)
20111205 20:03:12< anonymissimus> mordante: do you plan to work on/when do you plan to work on bug #18832 ? this bug prevents me from working on another one
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20111205 20:04:18< anonymissimus> or would you mind if I may submit a patch and assign to you
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20111205 20:06:23< mordante> vultraz, I like the addon dialog improvements
20111205 20:06:49< vultraz> :)
20111205 20:07:43< mordante> vultraz, why do you think your other dialogue would be a problem?
20111205 20:07:55< shadowmaster> It's slightly better than the hideous mess you showed to me last month, but the OK button is in a non-standard location
20111205 20:09:25< vultraz> mordante: well, seems complicated to have two scrollable lists next to each other. (at least to me) But I don't really know much GUI stuff, so I was wondering
20111205 20:09:36< vultraz> shadowmaster: harsh
20111205 20:09:43< vultraz> but to the point
20111205 20:09:44< mordante> anonymissimus, not sure the last time I couldn't reproduce it, also the bug is in the caller of the function
20111205 20:10:14< shadowmaster> vultraz: I can be harsh if you want.
20111205 20:10:26< shadowmaster> vultraz: "You suck and you should quit this immediately."
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20111205 20:10:37< mordante> anonymissimus, so feel free to submit a patch, but blit_surface acts as it should
20111205 20:10:45< mordante> at least as far as I can see
20111205 20:10:49< shadowmaster> But no, just kidding, you don't suck. :p
20111205 20:11:31< mordante> vultraz, the campaign selection dialog also has two scrolling elements next to each other
20111205 20:12:32< mordante> Ivanovic, still thinking about a FOSDEM topic :-(
20111205 20:12:38< vultraz> mordante: oh yeah...shows up with the ones with longer discription
20111205 20:13:03< vultraz> shouldn't be too hard then
20111205 20:13:31< shadowmaster> the add-ons remove list is an example too
20111205 20:13:32< mordante> just tell me if you run into troubles
20111205 20:13:47< anonymissimus> mordante: that means you tried reproducing under valgrind and didn't get these errors ?
20111205 20:14:15< mordante> AI0867, ok nice to see you go wescamp almost done (btw just uploaded new addons)
20111205 20:14:32< mordante> anonymissimus, I didn't, but I might try again later tonight
20111205 20:16:17< anonymissimus> well if the caller should send valid input then I imagine there could be some assert to ensure such memory problems can't occur
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20111205 20:17:56< cyrilb> Ivanovic: FYI: http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/toolkit/creating_a_terminology_list_from_your_existing_translations
20111205 20:18:58< Soliton> cyrilb: i believe ufo:ai is currently evaluating pootle. could ask them about their experiences.
20111205 20:19:41< cyrilb> Soliton: ufo:ai?
20111205 20:21:58< Soliton> ufo - alien invasion, a game. see #ufoai.
20111205 20:25:35< vultraz> mordante: BTW, is there any easy way to make dialogue boxes transparent? (like the one [object] gives)
20111205 20:27:21< cyrilb> Soliton: I see
20111205 20:31:21< mordante> vultraz, yes, use the proper base window, look at the tranparent dialogues how it is done
20111205 20:31:34< vultraz> mk
20111205 20:31:48< mordante> AI0867, read the wescamp wiki, so seems you're almost ready to switch?
20111205 20:44:03< shadowmaster> mordante: any news regarding blur in GUI2 dialogs?
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20111205 20:54:24< anonymissimus> mordante: perhaps you rewrote the code related to bug #12871 since then ? I left a commit about that I cant reproduce
20111205 20:54:30< anonymissimus> a comment
20111205 20:54:46< anonymissimus> so you could close it
20111205 20:57:53< anonymissimus> if you have other bugs which need some testing on windows you can point me to them
20111205 20:58:33< mordante> Gambit, I did some things on the lobby, but not much to write about
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20111205 20:59:03< mordante> Gambit, have several local commits, but still not happy with the design :-(
20111205 20:59:09< mordante> shadowmaster, no
20111205 20:59:31< shadowmaster> :\
20111205 21:00:44< shadowmaster> you know that besides the titlescreen readability issue there are also some situations in which existing transparent dialogs (i.e. Objectives) fail because of that?
20111205 21:00:48< mordante> anonymissimus, I didn't rewrite it, but since it was Windows only feel free to mark it as fixed
20111205 21:01:26< mordante> I didn't rewrite the objectives dialogue ...
20111205 21:01:32< shadowmaster> namely, whenever a scrollbar is added to them when the contents don't fit the screen
20111205 21:01:57< shadowmaster> and yet there's a bug assigned to you
20111205 21:02:30< shadowmaster> https://gna.org/bugs/?18284
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20111205 21:03:58< shadowmaster> hm
20111205 21:04:27< shadowmaster> Espreon, Gambit: did any of you change the default theme's timer/clock panel's geometry?
20111205 21:04:47< Gambit> nope
20111205 21:05:25< mordante> yeah, well IIRC who made the change, small chance he'll ever fix it
20111205 21:05:45< Espreon> shadowmaster: I did.
20111205 21:06:06< shadowmaster> mordante: who whould that be?
20111205 21:06:36< shadowmaster> and anyway, isn't the blur precommit thing your responsibility anyway?
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20111205 21:06:45< shadowmaster> Espreon: http://shadowm.ai0867.net/panel1.png
20111205 21:07:03< Espreon> Hmmm...
20111205 21:07:07< shadowmaster> notice the coordinates label overlaps with the last panel on 800x600 and 800x480
20111205 21:07:13< shadowmaster> and anything 800x* probably
20111205 21:07:17< Espreon> Yeah.
20111205 21:07:27< Espreon> I'll take a look at it on the eighth.
20111205 21:07:42< shadowmaster> do you need me to file a bug?
20111205 21:08:24< Espreon> That'd be nice, I guess.
20111205 21:10:04< mordante> shadowmaster, IIRC silene changed is
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20111205 21:10:48< mordante> shadowmaster, I added the precommit hook, but I didn't change the objectives since I knew there were still issue with it
20111205 21:13:07< shadowmaster> I'll change the add-on description dialog definition to use a non-transparent background then.
20111205 21:13:31< shadowmaster> Unfortunately I can't think of a solution for the titlescreen that doesn't require blurring or new graphics.
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20111205 21:19:21< Espreon> shadowmaster: Thanks
20111205 21:19:30< shadowmaster> mordante: do I need to do something special for the Close button automatically added along with the scrollbar to work?
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20111205 21:23:42< shadowmaster> the button is defined in data/gui/default/widget/window_default.cfg. Notably, the label is not translatable...
20111205 21:26:30< shadowmaster> of course, as a last resort I can do away with click_dismiss and use a custom Close button, but the layout I defined will not let me center it at the bottom :/
20111205 21:27:09< vultraz> is it possible to update the lua in-game if you edit the file without closing, F5, relaunching camp, etc? 
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20111205 21:27:45< shadowmaster> probably not since it's tied to the WML parser
20111205 21:31:39< anonymissimus> vultraz: of course
20111205 21:31:49< anonymissimus> don't embed it then it is
20111205 21:32:10< anonymissimus> that is, load lua via wesnoth.dofile/require
20111205 21:32:31< anonymissimus> it works even without scenario restart
20111205 21:33:22< shadowmaster> that's only for lua executed from events that haven't been triggered, though?
20111205 21:34:23< mordante> the button not being translatable is a bug, but I think the string is already used, in that case making it translatable is safe
20111205 21:34:24< anonymissimus> I dont understand the question...
20111205 21:34:48< mordante> I'm off bye
20111205 21:34:53< Espreon> mordante: Even if it weren't... it'd still have to be made translatable.
20111205 21:35:03< Espreon> ... or bad things would happen.
20111205 21:35:14< shadowmaster> mordante: but the click_dismiss button still doesnt work for me
20111205 21:35:36< shadowmaster> it simply does nothing when clicked
20111205 21:35:36< anonymissimus> if it was for events which have already been triggered then that would be sort of time travel back to change something in the past to change the present gamestate ?
20111205 21:35:49< mordante> shadowmaster, odd, can you file a bug report?
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20111205 21:36:11< shadowmaster> yeah, will do
20111205 21:36:41< anonymissimus> that of course doesn't work; but you can click "back to turn x" instead
20111205 21:36:55< anonymissimus> which is like time travel, actually
20111205 21:37:15< mordante> ok thanks, really off now
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20111205 21:38:02< anonymissimus> wesbot: topic
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20111205 21:39:17< anonymissimus> Ivanovic: I closed the fixed/wont fix/invalid/works for me/duplicate/invalid bug reports
20111205 21:39:27< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: ah, great, thanks
20111205 21:39:39< Ivanovic> almost forgot about those, wanted to tackle those some hours ago but...
20111205 21:39:39< CIA-79> shadowmaster * r52176 /trunk/data/gui/default/widget/window_default.cfg: 
20111205 21:39:39< CIA-79> gui2: Make a label string translatable
20111205 21:39:39< CIA-79> (The string is already translatable in the same domain, so this doesn't
20111205 21:39:39< CIA-79> break the string freeze.)
20111205 21:39:41< CIA-79> shadowmaster * r52177 /trunk/ (changelog data/gui/default/window/addon_description.cfg): 
20111205 21:39:41< CIA-79> gui2/taddon_description: Do not use message dialog definition with background blur
20111205 21:39:41< CIA-79> Add-ons with long descriptions (such as "The Fellowship of the Clay")
20111205 21:39:41< CIA-79> cause a scrollbar to appear, which isn't properly handled in conjunction
20111205 21:39:42< CIA-79> with the blur precommit hook. The automatic Close button still doesn't
20111205 21:39:42< CIA-79> work after changing the definition, though.
20111205 21:39:45< Ivanovic> yeah, looks like i am getting old
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20111205 22:20:23< shadowmaster> mordante: done, along with a potential fix in the attached patch: https://gna.org/bugs/?19121
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20111205 22:30:00< AI0867> mordante: I was, but then I tried to merge your changes ;)
20111205 22:30:26< shadowmaster> anonymissimus: I didn't realize before that https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?19121#comment1 might be of your interest
20111205 22:30:45< AI0867> something in svn2git didn't like that, so I deleted everything and restarted the conversion from scratch
20111205 22:31:03< shadowmaster> if you could test my patch then we could rule out the blur-event handling interaction
20111205 22:31:08< AI0867> so, that means deleting any repos that were changed (should only be 10 of them or so)
20111205 22:31:29< AI0867> in addition to the ones that failed to get uploaded due to crappy wifi routers
20111205 22:32:14< shadowmaster> AI0867: it'd probably make sense to freeze wescamp
20111205 22:34:05< AI0867> it would
20111205 22:34:13< AI0867> but I don't have that kind of power
20111205 22:34:30< AI0867> and the people involved have a ping time measured in days ;)
20111205 22:35:03< shadowmaster> probably only berlios staff do; I didn't mean a literal svn lock, anyway, but an agreement between all committers (which should be very few people nowadays) to not do anything until it's all moved to git
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20111205 22:43:46< shadowmaster> wait
20111205 22:43:52< shadowmaster> Espreon: the desert elves are liminal again?
20111205 22:44:28< Espreon> Nope.
20111205 22:44:37< Espreon> What gives you that idea?
20111205 22:44:38< shadowmaster> ah, it's a test scenario-specific change
20111205 22:44:41< Espreon> Ah.
20111205 22:44:57< shadowmaster> Espreon: the same screenshot I showed you earlier about the panel overlap
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20111205 22:45:23< Espreon> I see.
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20111205 22:57:25< AI0867> mordante: do you have an account on github yet?
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20111205 23:30:45< boucman> darn
20111205 23:30:47< boucman> too bad
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20111205 23:50:52< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: your patch works
20111205 23:51:11< anonymissimus> for the "close doesn't work" part
20111205 23:52:35< anonymissimus> the blurring is still present however; btu the close button not working issue is the most important one actually, I'm afraid people might disconnect if they overlook my hint for closing with Esc or return
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