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Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20111206 00:04:58-!- Upthorn [~ogmar@public-nat1.scc.losrios.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20111206 00:11:00-!- oldtopman [~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 00:20:07-!- yann [~dwitch@nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20111206 00:23:42-!- Upth [~ogmar@public-nat1.scc.losrios.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 00:23:42-!- Upth is now known as Upthorn 20111206 00:24:43-!- Sytyi [~Sytyi@36-60-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20111206 00:43:37-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-14-215-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 00:46:23-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-14-215-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20111206 01:06:07-!- Vorpal [~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20111206 01:07:31-!- Upthorn [~ogmar@public-nat1.scc.losrios.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20111206 01:11:53-!- Upth [~ogmar@public-nat1.scc.losrios.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 01:11:53-!- Upth is now known as Upthorn 20111206 01:24:41-!- stikonas_ [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20111206 01:25:04-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20111206 01:25:52-!- Tigge [~tigge@irc.jagochmittmoln.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20111206 01:37:28-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20111206 01:44:59< AI0867> mordante, torangan, espreon: everything should now be on github, up to svn revision r3960 20111206 01:45:17< AI0867> so, please stop using berlios 20111206 01:45:39< shadowm_laptop> AI0867: you'd better send an email to torangan directly about it 20111206 01:46:35-!- atomicbomb [~quassel@61.94.94.180] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 01:54:18-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit [Quit: I ATE'NT DEAD] 20111206 01:54:45-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20111206 01:59:24< anonymissimus> shadowm_laptop: I would expect "close" to work like "cancel" from the user point of view 20111206 02:20:32-!- gabba [~gabba@wesnoth/developer/gabba] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 02:23:32< anonymissimus> hi gabba 20111206 02:23:38< gabba> hi anonymissimus 20111206 02:23:57< anonymissimus> if you compare the wesnoth codebase with a game then take "oekolopoly" 20111206 02:24:33< anonymissimus> i dunno if thats a game in other countried; in germany its a board game with several states, and each of them depends on all of the others 20111206 02:25:15< anonymissimus> and there are circular dausalities with unexpected long-time outcomes, I think this matched perfectly the wesnoth codebase xD 20111206 02:25:49< anonymissimus> causalities... matches 20111206 02:26:11< gabba> googled it, it seems rather obscure :D 20111206 02:27:09< gabba> I can't figure out if Wesnoth is badly coded or if games (or even large codebases) are usually this hard to work with, really 20111206 02:27:36< AI0867> shadowm_laptop: you're probably right about that 20111206 02:28:46< gabba> then again, I probably picked the worst project ever if I wanted to have an easy time: delicate GUI works with tentacles all over the game code :P 20111206 02:29:01-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20111206 02:29:07-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 02:29:51< anonymissimus> well wesnoth is badly coded in some parts 20111206 02:30:33< anonymissimus> I think; in the earlier years nobody cared much, just getting stuff to work quickly 20111206 02:30:42-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has quit [Client Quit] 20111206 02:31:19< gabba> I never manage to have a good enough global view to judge whether the architectural choices are sound, but it does seem like things could be decoupled much better 20111206 02:32:07< anonymissimus> but this "arbitrary code interpretation" wesnoth does with wml is certainly a complexity other games never reach 20111206 02:32:47< AI0867> mails fired off 20111206 02:35:25< gabba> anonymissimus: yeah this whole "WML can do anything" thing can be a bit panicking, as there's no mechanism to be informed of critical changes (i.e. the whole gamemap gets changed and units deleted), I always have to assume the worst will happen 20111206 02:35:52< gabba> though I overheard someone put in place a "generic event" mechanism, maybe I should extend that 20111206 02:36:08< anonymissimus> yup thats what I mean, it's a nightmare on the interpretation side 20111206 02:43:27< anonymissimus> wesbot: bug 4072 20111206 02:43:27< wesbot> Bug #4072 Assigned to: Gunter Labes Status: Fixed Priority: 1 - Later 20111206 02:43:31< wesbot> Summary: Go into "spectator" mode after losing in a team game with fog 20111206 02:43:33< wesbot> Original submission: Host follows the game after death too, but if fog-of-war 20111206 02:43:36< wesbot> was turned on, he only sees the fog. 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Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20111206 19:58:57< shadowmaster> Is it intentional that you keep including "Please keep in mind that it is a development release which might include quite many bugs." in the release announcements in the front page (and the front page only)? 20111206 19:59:39< shadowmaster> Instead of, say, "please test it and report as many bugs as you can find so we can make sure 1.10 is shiny and sparkly and popular with girls"? 20111206 20:01:47< Ivanovic> not intentional at all 20111206 20:02:32< shadowmaster> Also, mind if I remove the ban warning in the release announcements from now on? It's absurdly unfriendly and doesn't serve a real purpose anymore now that releases are announced in coordination with the Mac OS X and Windows packagers. 20111206 20:03:55< Ivanovic> :) 20111206 20:04:54< chris-oelmueller> i like it though :P 20111206 20:05:01< chris-oelmueller> (heya) :) 20111206 20:05:39< Ivanovic> hi chris-oelmueller 20111206 20:11:17-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 20111206 20:12:30-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 20:13:24-!- Sytyi [~Sytyi@165-21-112-92.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20111206 20:14:04-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 20:15:35-!- sytyi [~sytyi@165-21-112-92.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 20:19:33-!- timotei [~timotei@188.24.7.180] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 20:19:33-!- timotei [~timotei@188.24.7.180] has quit [Changing host] 20111206 20:19:33-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 20:19:45-!- yann [~dwitch@nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 20:20:46-!- loonycyborg_ [loonycybor@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 20:20:46< timotei> anonymissimus: as far as you know, do we use in our lua something like: control a C/C++ variabile from within lua? 20111206 20:20:46< timotei> or just functions callbacks 20111206 20:20:48< timotei> like that table of callbacks in lua.cpp 20111206 20:21:09-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit [Quit: I ATE'NT DEAD] 20111206 20:21:09-!- loonycyborg_ is now known as loonycyborg 20111206 20:22:28< Soliton> anonymissimus: btw, if it helps you i can accept svn versions on the dev server. 20111206 20:22:52< Soliton> now that compatibility shouldn't usually break that's fine. 20111206 20:24:32-!- negusnyul_ [~negusnyul@dsl4E5CDA8A.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20111206 20:24:37-!- negusnyul__ [~negusnyul@dsl54020BE4.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 20:25:06< chris-oelmueller> Ivanovic: which font do you use for CJKV i18n? is it shipped as ttf or ttc? 20111206 20:42:45< Crendgrim> hum 20111206 20:43:02< Crendgrim> current trunk compiles for me, but not 1.9.12 ... 20111206 20:43:07 * Crendgrim goes investigating 20111206 20:45:46< Crendgrim> hum, why is the release requiring "ctags" while trunk isn't? 20111206 20:46:17< shadowmaster> the release doesn't require ctags. What command are you using to build? 20111206 20:46:18< Soliton> how is it requiring ctags? 20111206 20:46:24< Crendgrim> scons.. 20111206 20:46:47< Crendgrim> sh: ctags: Kommando nicht gefunden. ("Command not found") 20111206 20:47:04< Soliton> loonycyborg: ^ 20111206 20:47:04< shadowmaster> scons does have a TAGS target but it doesn't use it by defult 20111206 20:47:28< Crendgrim> tags -l c++ || (ctags --tag-relative=yes -f src/tags) 20111206 20:47:33-!- VladimirSlavik [~chatzilla@120.210.broadband9.iol.cz] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 20:47:34< Crendgrim> it crashes at that command 20111206 20:47:43< Crendgrim> (also taken from the compile output) 20111206 20:47:50< loonycyborg> Crendgrim: Probably you're using something like "scons ." 20111206 20:48:01-!- VladimirSlavik [~chatzilla@120.210.broadband9.iol.cz] has quit [Changing host] 20111206 20:48:01-!- VladimirSlavik [~chatzilla@wesnoth/translator/VladimirSlavik] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 20:48:06< loonycyborg> Which you shouldn't. 20111206 20:48:13< Crendgrim> alright. 20111206 20:48:16< shadowmaster> ah, funny, we were precisely talking about that in another channel 20111206 20:50:17< loonycyborg> Either plain "scons" or "scons wesnoth" or "scons some_other_target" 20111206 20:52:37< Crendgrim> yay, it works :) 20111206 20:52:42< Mkaysi> I dont need rss feed spsm 20111206 20:53:04< Mkaysi> Wrong channel 20111206 21:06:34-!- sytyi [~sytyi@165-21-112-92.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 20111206 21:06:56-!- sytyi [~sytyi@165-21-112-92.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 21:10:29-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 20111206 21:10:30-!- crimson_pingvin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 21:13:36-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20111206 21:21:50-!- prkc [~negusnyul@dsl4E5CD6D0.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 21:25:40-!- negusnyul__ [~negusnyul@dsl54020BE4.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20111206 21:38:22-!- sytyi [~sytyi@165-21-112-92.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20111206 21:41:00< Ivanovic> chris-oelmueller: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/fonts/ 20111206 21:41:04< Ivanovic> this is what we are shipping 20111206 21:41:26< Mkaysi> Someone else has same problem at #wesnoth 20111206 21:41:27< Ivanovic> that is: there are some complaints about the font being that this one is basically only "really" usable by the chinese translation(s) 20111206 21:41:40< Mkaysi> Wrong channel 20111206 21:41:51< chris-oelmueller> how do you load a ttc file? 20111206 21:41:57< chris-oelmueller> Ivanovic: ^ 20111206 21:42:16< Ivanovic> chris-oelmueller: this was just some typo in the filename, but i used the original file name which was ttc 20111206 21:42:21< Ivanovic> it works like any ttf 20111206 21:42:33< Ivanovic> (at least i guess it is a typo, not 100% sure) 20111206 21:42:35< chris-oelmueller> really? 20111206 21:42:44< chris-oelmueller> no it is not, ttc is an own format (collection) 20111206 21:42:49< Espreon> Indeed. 20111206 21:43:03< chris-oelmueller> and for our engine ttc doesn´t work which is why i ask in first place :) 20111206 21:47:38< Espreon> chris-oelmueller: As far as I know, you'll only have to worry about the Japanese... but I'm not sure about the situation with hanja. I think the trend with GUIs is hangul-only, but why knows? 20111206 21:47:45< Espreon> *who knows 20111206 21:48:13-!- Sytyi [~Sytyi@165-21-112-92.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 21:48:17< Espreon> Therefore, Korean shouldn't be a problem. 20111206 21:49:24< chris-oelmueller> i will ask our would-be japanese translator (because of whom we try to fix this issue) 20111206 21:49:57< chris-oelmueller> in general if sdl_ttf does not support ttc files we need a custom solution here, but i figured to ask wesnoth before mocking around with that 20111206 21:50:31< Espreon> chris-oelmueller: If you wish to do more reading about this problem, do research on Han unification. 20111206 21:51:10< Espreon> And sadly, I have to go... 20111206 21:51:14< Espreon> So, bye. 20111206 21:51:22< chris-oelmueller> later 20111206 21:52:49< anonymissimus> timotei: yes, lua is doing that all the time 20111206 21:53:17< anonymissimus> many wml tags set some variable of the unit obejcts for instance 20111206 21:53:22< timotei> ah 20111206 21:53:26< timotei> good. 20111206 21:53:30< timotei> I'll need to research that 20111206 21:53:47< timotei> could you please tell me an example tag? 20111206 21:55:31< anonymissimus> hide_unit 20111206 21:55:41< timotei> ok. thnaks a lot 20111206 21:56:02< anonymissimus> but there's half of the tags in wml-tags.lua doing this 20111206 21:56:33< timotei> hmm, so they get the cfg, which is a (v)config class? 20111206 21:56:35< timotei> in C++? 20111206 21:57:04< anonymissimus> the cfg the tags get can either be a config table or a vconfig userdata 20111206 21:57:39< anonymissimus> if the tag is called by wml it's vconfig, if it's called by lua it can be both 20111206 21:57:52< timotei> I see 20111206 21:57:52< anonymissimus> the caller decides it 20111206 21:59:03< anonymissimus> Soliton: thanks 20111206 21:59:09-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Quit: SIGKILL] 20111206 22:08:45< anonymissimus> uh, I made it into the release announcement "some mp issues were fixed" 20111206 22:10:41-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@ppp59-167-222-56.qld.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 22:19:21-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 22:36:18-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@ppp59-167-222-56.qld.adsl.internode.on.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20111206 22:41:51-!- Crendgrim [~crend@77-22-113-8-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: ...] 20111206 23:05:37-!- VladimirSlavik [~chatzilla@wesnoth/translator/VladimirSlavik] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20111206 23:15:40-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20111206 23:21:13-!- chris-oelmueller is now known as chrisoelmueller 20111206 23:24:29-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20111206 23:36:16-!- prkc [~negusnyul@dsl4E5CD6D0.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20111206 23:39:13-!- MeccaGod [majs@host189-199.bornet.net] has quit [] --- Log closed Wed Dec 07 00:00:42 2011