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20111221 00:12:26< anonymissimus> fendrin: a RPG-ish theme ?
20111221 00:12:48< fendrin> no
20111221 00:13:15< fendrin> it's for classic gameplay, anonymissimus
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20111221 00:20:48< anonymissimus> these icons are from slash'em if I'm not mistaken
20111221 00:20:56< anonymissimus> at least I saw them there
20111221 00:21:23< fendrin> slash em?
20111221 00:25:42< anonymissimus> you don't know it ?
20111221 00:25:43< fendrin> no
20111221 00:25:49< anonymissimus> a very recommendable RPG
20111221 00:25:57< anonymissimus> open source of course
20111221 00:26:07< anonymissimus> it should be in your repo probably
20111221 00:26:36< anonymissimus> you will always die in the beginning though
20111221 00:26:55< anonymissimus> thats why it's so cool, its extremely challenging
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20111221 01:00:17< shadowmaster> fendrin: could you *not* triple post in your topics unless strictly necessary/a long time has passed?
20111221 01:00:36< shadowmaster> I'm seeing three consecutive posts in a single topic within less than 1:15 hours
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20111221 01:50:14< fendrin> shadowmaster: is there an option to quote more than one post?
20111221 01:51:17< shadowmaster> when using the post editor in reply or quote mode, if you scroll down you'll see a preview of previous posts in the topic. There should be quote buttons alongside them.
20111221 01:51:30 * fendrin wonders if the wesnoth forum theme still offers every feature.
20111221 01:52:31< fendrin> shadowmaster: Found it. Nice. Thank you.
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20111221 01:54:51< shadowmaster> I have previously tried at all costs (including some PHP hacking) to make sure the subsilver2 template provides the same feature set as the prosilver template, even for mods that don't include subsilver2 edits whatsoever. The wesnoth style inherits the subsilver2 template, so they are identical except for the CSS and imagesets. I plan to support subsilver2 for as long as the mainline developers do (that should be until phpBB ...
20111221 01:54:57< shadowmaster> ... 3.1 IIRC, which I imagine won't be released until another couple of years have passed).
20111221 01:58:01< shadowmaster> The wesnoth CSS is relatively easy to maintain and I only need to review diffs chunk by chunk when preparing upgrades and port any relevant (i.e. not color) changes from subsilver2.
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20111221 02:14:00< CIA-85> alarantalara * r52350 /trunk/projectfiles/Xcode/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Xcode version number to 1.9.13
20111221 02:15:05< CIA-85> alarantalara * r52351 /trunk/src/minimap.cpp: minimap needs a neutral surface, not a compatible one
20111221 02:16:01< CIA-85> espreon * r52352 /trunk/Doxyfile: Bumped version number in Doxyfile.
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20111221 02:48:31< shadowmaster> ancestral: so you also have a quite popular test add-on in the 1.9.x server, eh?
20111221 02:50:36< ancestral> Do I?
20111221 02:50:58 * ancestral scratches his head
20111221 02:51:31< shadowmaster> Dependency_Test
20111221 02:52:48< ancestral> shadowmaster: Yeah, who knows, I might just make a version 2.0 if demand is high enough ;-)
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20111221 03:07:14< anonymissimus> what does Dependency_Test do ?
20111221 03:07:41< ancestral> Absolutely nothing!
20111221 03:08:00< ancestral> Except it requires another add-on
20111221 03:08:55< ancestral> I used it as a way to make sure a patch I submitted work for asking the customer if they really want to download the adding without having the pre-reqs
20111221 03:09:08< ancestral> s/customer/user
20111221 03:10:11< ancestral> shadowmaster: But someday we'll include our own mini package manager which will download all the libraries automatically, right? :P 
20111221 03:12:38< shadowmaster> potentially (although having a "recommends" list separate from "depends" would be nice)
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20111221 03:14:14< shadowmaster> (and perhaps also a "conflicts" list!)
20111221 03:18:28< CIA-85> ai0867 * r52353 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Apply patch for bug #19032 from coffee
20111221 03:18:49< ancestral> Ooh, and when you join a game it'll download the files… forward thinking, I know
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20111221 03:41:26< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: as for conflicts; I like to give my custom terrains an addon prefix, like scG\
20111221 03:41:34< anonymissimus> for "simple campaign"
20111221 03:42:20< anonymissimus> for mp addons much more important...although it's hard to know what it conflicts with
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20111221 03:55:40< shadowmaster> you clearly missed the joke
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20111221 09:07:59< Rhonda> Alright, loonycyborg and Ivanovic, they applied the patch in the Debian package of boost1.48, so I am starting a new build.
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20111221 09:35:39< Rhonda> sooo great, now python-support doesn't want to install
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20111221 10:41:25< Ivanovic> moin
20111221 10:41:42< Ivanovic> Rhonda: uhm, wesnoth does not need python anymore...
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20111221 11:18:19< Rhonda> Hmm, well. The tools.
20111221 11:18:41< Ivanovic> argh, right
20111221 11:18:56< Rhonda> At some point I wanted to do that properly but just added the build-depends, kinda lying to myself.
20111221 11:19:10< Rhonda> But, on second try it now builds.
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20111221 14:30:47< vultraz> can anybody tell me why 1.9.13 is causing my cpu usage to go through the roof?
20111221 14:32:24< vultraz> I basically have almost 0 idle when playing
20111221 14:32:31< vultraz> everything lags
20111221 14:32:44< vultraz> didn't happen with 1.9.12 AFAICR
20111221 14:33:16< vultraz> everything in wesnoth lags*
20111221 14:33:40< elias> which platform?
20111221 14:33:48< vultraz> Mac OS X 10.5.8
20111221 14:35:00< vultraz> right now it seems to be using 80-90% of the cpu
20111221 14:36:07< elias> hm, i can't find a download link for 1.9.13
20111221 14:38:40< vultraz> should be on the homepage...was earlier
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20111221 14:40:41< elias> yeah, found it
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20111221 15:05:17< elias> i get about 4% CPU scrolling around in the first httt scenario here
20111221 15:05:30< elias> which doesn't say much of course
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20111221 15:31:36< vultraz> elias: hummmmm
20111221 15:34:12< vultraz> maybe it's just me
20111221 15:35:08< elias> nah, i find it unlpayable on my netbook (some 1ghz atom cpu)
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20111221 15:35:41< elias> so it certainly isn't very optimized for cpu consumption. you can try disabling animations and other effects though
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20111221 15:37:05< vultraz> I've got a 2.33 GhZ Core 2 Duo...
20111221 15:37:14< vultraz> weird that it doesn't work
20111221 15:37:16< vultraz> well
20111221 15:39:34< vultraz> but what seems to be the really weird part is that this didn't seem to be a problem on 1.9.12
20111221 15:40:43< vultraz> I even got pointer ghosts 
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20111221 15:42:15< vultraz> they mostly disappear when I click though
20111221 15:42:26< vultraz> http://imagebin.org/189711
20111221 15:44:59< vultraz> I'm gonna re-install 1.9.12 and see how it is
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20111221 17:01:34< vultraz> elias: 1.9.12 works
20111221 17:01:40< vultraz> 1.9.13 doesn't
20111221 17:02:00< elias> that's bad
20111221 17:03:24< vultraz> yup
20111221 17:06:16< elias> sounds like they are aware of it and working on a solution: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=34333&hilit=1.9.13+performance&start=45
20111221 17:11:03< vultraz> ahh
20111221 17:11:05< vultraz> that's good
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20111221 19:10:38< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: why does it need to be a joke ? I have a usecase for "recommends" and I feel that "conflicts" makes sense as well
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20111221 19:31:31< shadowmaster> vultraz: you should probably try to task Alarantalara
20111221 19:31:53< shadowmaster> I mean ask
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20111221 20:56:08< csarmi> hi noy, got time?
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20111221 21:09:30< noy> I do now csarmi but my connection is ****
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20111221 21:14:02< noy> csarmi: ping me
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20111221 21:57:39< fendrin> hi
20111221 22:08:01< CIA-85> anonymissimus * r52354 /trunk/src/ (image.cpp image.hpp): make image::locator::file_exists() const
20111221 22:08:32< CIA-85> anonymissimus * r52355 /trunk/src/image_modifications.cpp: check for argument image file existence before creating a MASK or BLIT image mod (fix for bug #19208)
20111221 22:08:59< CIA-85> anonymissimus * r52356 /trunk/src/image_modifications.cpp: additional logging to help wml and lua authors
20111221 22:09:18< CIA-85> anonymissimus * r52357 /trunk/changelog: changelog update
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20111221 22:23:02< CIA-85> anonymissimus * r52358 /trunk/src/image_modifications.cpp: 
20111221 22:23:02< CIA-85> Revert "additional logging to help wml and lua authors"
20111221 22:23:02< CIA-85> That was a bad idea since there are legal cases where it's NULL. Also
20111221 22:23:02< CIA-85> rather useless additional info.
20111221 22:26:02< anonymissimus> wesbot: topic
20111221 22:26:04-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: String/feature-freeze active for trunk | 156 bugs, 328 feature requests, 13 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20111221 23:22:55< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: what's the plan for releasing the next stable? it's vaguely possible I could get it on the Mac App Store at the same time
20111221 23:23:02< crimson_penguin> (for free)
20111221 23:23:51< shadowmaster> sigh
20111221 23:23:56< crimson_penguin> ?
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