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20111228 00:58:01< shadowmaster> AI0867: https://gna.org/bugs/?19220
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20111228 08:35:56< Aethaeryn> Isn't it "capital at Weldyn", not "capitol at Weldyn"?
20111228 08:36:16< Aethaeryn> Delfador's Memoirs, storytext at the start
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20111228 08:58:01< Aethaeryn> So either the intro for scenario 2 of Delfador's Memoirs should say "capital" or the concluding dialog should say "capital". I'm pretty sure it's the latter.
20111228 08:58:22< Aethaeryn> Oh, sorry, the concluding dialog has "capital" and the opening has "capitol" and I'm pretty sure it's not capitol
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20111228 10:10:52< vultraz> Aethaeryn: well....capital=city, capitol=building 
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20111228 10:28:05< boucman> generic question, if you are allied with a side, does it always allow you to see that side's units through fog, or is it for WML to decide ?
20111228 10:28:18 * boucman doesn't want to introduce a major bug while fixing a minor one
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20111228 10:36:13< Ivanovic> moin
20111228 10:37:06< boucman> moin
20111228 10:37:34< boucman> Ivanovic: do you know if it's possible to have allied units under fog, or will an ally unit always remove fog ?
20111228 10:37:53< Ivanovic> i think an ally always removes fog
20111228 10:38:28< Ivanovic> ah, no, wait
20111228 10:39:00< Ivanovic> at least in two brothers in the last scenario you *don't* share the view with your ally
20111228 10:39:12< boucman> k...
20111228 10:39:36< Ivanovic> the question is: was this shroud or was it fog...
20111228 10:39:46< boucman> fog
20111228 10:39:56< boucman> oh you mean in TB ?
20111228 10:39:59< boucman> I don't know :P
20111228 10:40:10< Ivanovic> jepp, in tb
20111228 10:40:32< Ivanovic> an easy enough case for you to test, just jumo over the first three scenarios
20111228 10:43:17< Ivanovic> boucman: any more feedback regarding the fisdem schedule?
20111228 10:43:41 * boucman is working on WB units not appearing under fog, but it's more complicated than expected
20111228 10:43:48< boucman> fine for me
20111228 10:46:54 * boucman would really need gabba at this point :(
20111228 10:48:48< Ivanovic> he mentioned that he will probably back after new years eve
20111228 10:49:20< vultraz> share_view=no?
20111228 10:49:58< boucman> vultraz: is that the WML parameter to set visibility ?
20111228 10:49:59< boucman> thx
20111228 10:52:14< vultraz> "share_view: whether sides allied with this side see the units that this side sees, if they are on FoW (fog)."
20111228 10:53:26< Crendgrim> boucman: share_view is for fog, and share_maps for shroud
20111228 10:53:34< Crendgrim> so, both can be disabled by WML
20111228 10:53:44< boucman> ok, thx, that's what I wanted to know
20111228 10:53:52< Ivanovic> deafult in MP is on though, right?
20111228 10:54:17< Crendgrim> fog yes, shroud I'd guess
20111228 10:55:36< boucman> Ivanovic: MP is not a problem for my bug
20111228 10:55:46< Ivanovic> ahhhh, okay
20111228 10:55:56< boucman> right now, if a unit is under fog it's not drawn
20111228 10:56:10< boucman> however WB units need to be an exception to that rul
20111228 10:56:26< boucman> so I changed the rule to "you can see your own units under fog"
20111228 10:56:35< boucman> (i'll deal with shroud later)
20111228 10:57:04< boucman> however, in MP you want to see your ally's plans too
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20111228 10:57:21< boucman> so my first thought was "you can see allied units under fog" 
20111228 10:57:26< boucman> but that's not good either
20111228 10:57:35< boucman> so I have to find the correct algorithm
20111228 10:59:44< Aethaeryn> vultraz: Yes, and I don't think Wesnoth has a capitol building with the same name as the capital city.
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20111228 11:02:29< vultraz> Aethaeryn: I think it means the capitol building in Weldyn
20111228 11:04:39< vultraz> but....still....I never heard of Weldyn having a capitol building
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20111228 11:09:20< Aethaeryn> vultraz: It'd be something like a palace.
20111228 11:09:32< vultraz> probably
20111228 11:09:44< Aethaeryn> And hence "capitol" isn't a very good term.
20111228 11:10:28< Aethaeryn> In fact, the capitol is either the US one or some other *legislature* building.
20111228 11:10:32< Aethaeryn> Doesn't seem very period.
20111228 11:11:08< Aethaeryn> So it's probably a "capital" typo that spellcheck wouldn't catch.
20111228 11:11:34< vultraz> yeah, capitol DOES sound wrong
20111228 11:12:05< vultraz> and capital probably would be better
20111228 11:12:31< vultraz> thought I'm not sure if changing 1 letter would beak the string freeze
20111228 11:12:42< vultraz> probably
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20111228 11:58:55< boucman> Crendgrim: around ?
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20111228 12:00:05< Crendgrim> boucman: yes
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20111228 12:00:34< boucman> just to be sure, two teams can be on only two states wrt each other, ennemy or allied, there is no neutroal
20111228 12:01:02< boucman> and if they are allied, share_view is for all allies, not for each ally individually...
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20111228 12:01:42< Crendgrim> I think so, yes
20111228 12:01:54< boucman> ok, that's what I saw in code, just wanted to make sure
20111228 12:02:33< Crendgrim> well, I don't know the code, but that's what I experienced in my WML coding.
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20111228 12:05:03< boucman> that's consistent, thx
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20111228 14:44:53< zookeeper> arr, a day without electricity and another without internet.
20111228 14:51:49< shadowm_laptop> is $this_unit autostored and usable in event.filter_condition attributes?
20111228 14:53:02< zookeeper> if it isn't, it should be :J
20111228 14:53:17< zookeeper> i'd guess that it is
20111228 14:54:47< shadowm_laptop> actually, that doesn't make a lot of sense. I meant $unit and $second_unit.
20111228 14:55:56< zookeeper> oh. no idea about that.
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20111228 16:35:02< CIA-85> boucman * r52416 /trunk/src/ (team.hpp unit.cpp): fix for bug #18636, makes ghost units visible through fog, gabba please test and confirm that's what you want
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20111228 16:40:20< anonymissimus> boucman: about share_view being the same for all allies; if a side definition has it set to yes, all sides allied with it should see its units/visible area through fog
20111228 16:40:30< boucman> just a sec
20111228 16:40:47< boucman> ok, that's what I understood
20111228 16:41:04< anonymissimus> but this doesnt mean that if side A sees B's units, B neccessarily sees A's units
20111228 16:41:43< boucman> yes, that's what I understood, thx
20111228 16:42:17< anonymissimus> or thats how I would expect it to work
20111228 16:43:22< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: $unit, $second_unit shall work in filter_condition
20111228 16:43:41< anonymissimus> $this_unit not since there's not this_unit to store ;)
20111228 16:44:09< shadowm_laptop> I did notice that about 3 minutes later
20111228 16:48:22< CIA-85> ivanovic * r52417 /website/start/1.10/ (56 files in 2 dirs): 
20111228 16:48:22< CIA-85> pot-update for the announcement
20111228 16:48:22< CIA-85> added first version (english "original")
20111228 16:56:52< CIA-85> ivanovic * r52418 /website/start/1.10/po/de.po: updated German announcement translation (not complete enough yet for file generation)
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20111228 17:52:20< CIA-85> boucman * r52419 /trunk/src/unit_animation.cpp: make default victory animations interuptible, this solves bug #18856
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20111228 19:01:49< Espreon> Ivanovic: Hmmmm... now I feel ashamed for not making some fixes...
20111228 19:04:36< Espreon> boucman: What is this "particule" I see in the animation code?
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20111228 19:18:35< Ivanovic> Espreon: :)
20111228 19:19:29< Espreon> ... it's annoying since I can't fix it now. Oh well.
20111228 19:25:30< boucman> Espreon: particle are basicly "a set of image displayed one at a time within an animation" 
20111228 19:25:59< boucman> for a magical ranged attack there could be the main unit as a particle, a magical halo as a second, and the projectile as a third
20111228 19:26:16< Espreon> Hmmm, then why the gratuitous "u"?
20111228 19:26:32< Espreon> Also, I think the bugfix for the lag is changelog-worthy.
20111228 19:26:38< boucman> because i'm not a native speaker :P
20111228 19:26:47< Espreon> Dictionaries are amazing.
20111228 19:26:50< boucman> hehe
20111228 19:27:05< boucman> i know the spelling I probably was distracted, where did I add a u ?
20111228 19:27:26< Espreon> Well, fgrep tells me there are many instances of "particule".
20111228 19:27:43< Espreon> unit_animation.*pp
20111228 19:27:53< boucman> darn
20111228 19:28:04< boucman> mkay, not worth a mass renaming, it's code internal
20111228 19:28:18< boucman> unless you consider it a serious issue
20111228 19:28:26< Espreon> Wait for 1.11.
20111228 19:28:30< Espreon> No one will notice.
20111228 19:28:34< Espreon> ... hopefully.
20111228 19:29:12< shadowm_laptop> internal names don't really need that kind of pedantry
20111228 19:30:35< boucman> yeah, 1.11 would make more sense
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20111228 22:24:43< shadowmaster> Rhonda: will wesnoth.debian.net's IRC log archive ever return? It was kind of nice to be able to browse logs from past years before the archive in wesnoth.org was started
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20111228 22:32:42< Rhonda> shadowmaster: depending on your DNS cache it should be back within the next day. mordante, too
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20111228 22:33:02< shadowmaster> ah, great! :)
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20111228 22:38:34< timotei> shadowmaster: why not move the old archive to wesnoth.org ?:)
20111228 22:39:09< shadowmaster> I don't know. Why do you ask me?
20111228 22:40:32< timotei> because you wanted them :)
20111228 22:41:16< shadowmaster> But I neither own them nor do I decide how wesnoth.org's disk space should be used. :)
20111228 22:43:56< timotei> Aren't those considered public domain anyway? But yeah, I agree with the latter.
20111228 22:47:35< Rhonda> timotei: because the reason for it being that it's archived by two different bots on two different hosts
20111228 22:48:47< Rhonda> So if one goes down the other archive is still accessible.
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