--- Log opened Fri Dec 30 00:00:43 2011
20111230 00:05:42< anonymissimus> fendrin: actually, it makes sort of sense to me to require people to write delayed_variable_susbtitution=yes (or no, depending on the default) if they want to use variables which shall be susbtituted at the time the object is applied in their object, it is similar to creating an event
20111230 00:06:47< anonymissimus> via nested events; rewquiring $|var while $var has no meaning at the same time is new
20111230 00:07:50< fendrin> right
20111230 00:08:14< fendrin> Without $var being useful in all cases it makes no sense.
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20111230 00:27:49< CIA-85> anonymissimus * r52425 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: 
20111230 00:27:49< CIA-85> introduce [object]delayed_variable_substitution=yes|no (def no) (bug #18893, bug #19225)
20111230 00:27:49< CIA-85> This isn't pretty since we are repeatedly parsing wml in the common case...
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20111230 00:49:47-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: String/feature-freeze active for trunk | 159 bugs, 329 feature requests, 13 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20111230 01:54:58< anonymissimus> fendrin: is the [teleport] tag modification revertable ?
20111230 01:55:25< anonymissimus> that is, to the old non-tunnel using implemenation ?
20111230 01:56:29< anonymissimus> someone may have been using the teleport ability *and* $var in the same object
20111230 01:56:44< anonymissimus> and that case would never work now
20111230 02:04:13< fendrin> anonymissimus: You can only revert the whole feature. Should be doable since it was concentrated on a few commits.
20111230 02:05:03< anonymissimus> well, not the tunnel tag, only its link to the teleport tag 
20111230 02:05:24< fendrin> That is not possible.
20111230 02:05:55< fendrin> The old teleport tag was hardcoded in the pathfinder. The backend code is not longer in there.
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20111230 02:08:35< fendrin> And I refactored all related files into a subdirectory.
20111230 02:09:12< fendrin> Would be too bad if we need to remove the feature.
20111230 02:10:07< anonymissimus> ok then...sure, tunnel is used as well now
20111230 02:10:35< anonymissimus> and someone may have coded custom teleport ability using other tunnel setups
20111230 02:26:58< anonymissimus> i should never have touched bug #18893 probably, and leave it to you and ai ;)
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20111230 04:00:01< Espreon> Ivanovic: There's a grammatical error in feral's trait description. How should I deal with it?
20111230 04:00:22< Espreon> To fix it, I'd just have to change "Receive" to "Receives".
20111230 04:08:42< shadowmaster> yay editor crashes
20111230 04:08:48< shadowmaster> 00:08:14 <shadowmaster> this time I had only scrolled a map, used the Create New Map action, and attempted to fill the empty new map with stone wall hexes
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20111230 10:07:53< CIA-85> espreon * r52426 /trunk/po/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Updated the Latin translation.
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20111230 10:55:04< Ivanovic> moin
20111230 10:55:36< Ivanovic> Espreon: using pofix.py this should not be much of an issue
20111230 10:57:15< Espreon> All right.
20111230 11:20:17< CIA-85> espreon * r52427 /trunk/ (60 files in 4 dirs): Fixed a grammatical error in feral's description.
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20111230 13:31:43< CIA-85> ivanovic * r52428 /website/start/ (8 files in 4 dirs): updated Chinese (Simplified) announcement translations (1.8 and 1.10)
20111230 13:33:15< CIA-85> ivanovic * r52429 /website/start/1.10/Makefile: add a dos2unix call to the update of po files, just to be sure...
20111230 13:39:28< CIA-85> ivanovic * r52430 /trunk/ (10 files in 10 dirs): updated Chinese (Simplified) translation
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20111230 14:34:51< CIA-85> loonycyborg * r52431 /branches/asio_wesnothd/: Created a branch for working on rearchitecturing wesnothd to use boost.asio
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20111230 14:43:22< CIA-85> loonycyborg * r52432 /branches/asio_wesnothd/ (SConstruct src/server/server.cpp src/server/server.hpp): 
20111230 14:43:22< CIA-85> Initial commit
20111230 14:43:22< CIA-85> Status: nothing works except accepting and maintaining connections. Most of old code
20111230 14:43:22< CIA-85> is left commented or intact for easy reference.
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20111230 18:39:25< anonymissimus> Alarantalara: what end of line style do your local copies of the wml files have ? (mainline or addon)
20111230 18:40:21< anonymissimus> for me CR just choked in some test, but I know we're using eol style native svn property so it should be CR for you
20111230 18:41:34< anonymissimus> (LF works although I'm testing it windows, so I guess the preprocessor may be looking for LF and just ignore the CR in the windows CRLF line endings which work as well)
20111230 18:42:52< anonymissimus> although this might depend on some #ifdef in the C++ code as well
20111230 18:48:40< timotei> anonymissimus: Mac OS X's eol is CR :P
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20111230 18:54:42< anonymissimus> timotei: I know
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20111230 19:07:27< anonymissimus> timotei: btw what about using the same source repository for you three OS types now ? :P
20111230 19:07:51< timotei> anonymissimus: oh well... didn't used yet it on mac os
20111230 19:08:03< timotei> >P
20111230 19:08:05 * anonymissimus imagines it to be a great job to bring the three into sync
20111230 19:08:05< timotei> :P
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20111230 19:10:32< timotei> the thing I hate is that each OS has it's own eol...
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20111230 19:11:09< Gambit> wesbot: seen crab_?
20111230 19:11:09< wesbot> Gambit: The person with the nick Crab_ last spoke 3d 5h ago.  7h 39m ago they left with the message: Ping timeout: 268 seconds
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20111230 19:17:00< Gambit> anonymissimus: Does lua have access to os.time() or equivalent?
20111230 19:26:56< anonymissimus> Gambit: os.time works
20111230 19:27:17< anonymissimus> its not OOS proof though
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20111230 19:29:19< anonymissimus> though more seriously, os.time returns something OS dependent I think
20111230 19:29:47< anonymissimus> that is, it returns something different depending on the client's OS
20111230 19:30:48< Gambit> Aww
20111230 19:30:55< anonymissimus> although using it with wesnoth.synchronize_choice should solve it, then it just takes the result on the current client and transfers it to the others
20111230 19:31:11< Gambit> I need to get a unix timestamp
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20111230 19:34:44< anonymissimus> "The returned value is a number, whose meaning depends on your system. In POSIX, Windows, and some other systems, this number counts the number of seconds since some given start time (the "epoch"). In other systems, the meaning is not specified, and the number returned by time can be used only as an argument to date and difftime. "
20111230 19:34:47< Gambit> Hmmm. All the OSes big enough to care about at all have a standard.
20111230 19:35:29< anonymissimus> I dunno whether wml has defines to check or distinguish for OSes---
20111230 19:37:21< anonymissimus> there's APPLE the preprocessor ref says but nothing else
20111230 19:37:47< Gambit> Thanks
20111230 19:37:48< anonymissimus> probably you should question why you want os.time() in the first place
20111230 19:38:08< anonymissimus> or what do you need the unix time stamp for
20111230 19:38:17< Gambit> Because I'm doing something incredibly stupid yet awesome.
20111230 19:38:52< Gambit> I'm trying to invent peer-to-peer statistics tracking with the new persistent variables.
20111230 19:39:10< Gambit> And I want to add some checks for "Is it possible for this number to have grown that much in that many days?"
20111230 19:40:40< Gambit> I don't want someone infecting the system with outrageous numbers.
20111230 19:41:47< Gambit> anonymissimus: https://github.com/grickit/GambCiv/blob/dc20698412cb1bd0c6c7634a317d57ef69241e94/utils/persistence.cfg
20111230 19:44:51< Gambit> Basically everyone who plays the add-on will have a semi-complete list of everyone else who plays it
20111230 19:44:55< Gambit> And how many times they've played it
20111230 19:46:41< Gambit> The more that people play with different people, the more complete everyone's lists will be.
20111230 19:47:16< Gambit> Like there will be individual pockets of people who only play together and they know each other has played it like 20 times.
20111230 19:47:31< Gambit> But as soon as one of them plays with someone else, that person gets the current stats on all of them.
20111230 19:47:53< anonymissimus> hm dunno about side turn x events whether they are synched and reliable
20111230 19:48:08< Gambit> And eventually all those numbers come back to me.
20111230 19:48:41< anonymissimus> (actually, we could have spared a lot of those confusing xy events by using side turn + filter_condition)
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20111230 19:48:57< Gambit> Yeah I need to test it with multiple computers still
20111230 19:49:22< Gambit> Also I don't think it yet adds people who are on your friend's list, but not yours, and not in the current game.
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20111230 19:58:00< Gambit> Eventually this can lead to add-on meta games.
20111230 19:59:29< Gambit> It just won't ever be anywhere close to 100% accuracy
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