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20120102 00:02:47< CIA-85> ivanovic * r52441 /trunk/po/wesnoth-httt/nb_NO.po: updated Norwegian translation
20120102 00:03:43< CIA-85> ivanovic * r52442 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): changelog update/correction
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20120102 03:38:47< CIA-85> espreon * r52443 /trunk/ (32 files in 30 dirs): Updated the Spanish translation.
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20120102 04:06:49< CIA-85> espreon * r52444 /trunk/po/wesnoth-help/es.po: Updated the Spanish translation.
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20120102 06:50:42< CIA-85> espreon * r52445 /trunk/po/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Updated the Spanish translation.
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20120102 17:42:43< Espreon> Hmmmm... it might be nice to make "View Chat Log" part of the context menu... especially for observers.
20120102 17:45:09< shadowmaster> you could easily do that yourself
20120102 17:45:27< shadowmaster> although I don't see why observers would need it in the context menu
20120102 17:45:46< Gambit> Just be careful about making it too tall
20120102 17:45:48< Espreon> Well, there's nothing to do but observe and read text.
20120102 17:45:54< Gambit> Remember that us UMC guys love [set_menu_item]
20120102 17:46:42< shadowmaster> Espreon: there's a main menu and alt+c
20120102 17:47:15< Espreon> Then why do we need Message and the like there?
20120102 17:47:24< Espreon> Also, people are lazy.
20120102 17:47:40< shadowmaster> Because Message is an extremely basic function that people could miss otherwise.
20120102 17:47:59< shadowmaster> There are enough problems with its discoverability as it is.
20120102 17:48:07< Espreon> I see.
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20120102 18:49:51< Alarantalara> Espreon: the lines on the snow are due to black semi-transparent pixels
20120102 18:50:37< Espreon> Ah.
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20120102 18:53:52< CIA-85> alarantalara * r52446 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/frozen/snow-ne-se.png: Strip some semi-transparent pixels of the wrong colour
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20120102 18:54:43< Alarantalara> I suppose I could have recoloured them for fancy blending, but as the sand-snow transitions show, that's often risky
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20120102 18:59:47< shadowmaster> Anyone knows how I can restrict a process (wesnoth, in this case) usage of RAM correctly?
20120102 19:00:04< shadowmaster> On Linux, of course. 
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20120102 19:03:17< loonycyborg> shadowmaster: afaik there are 'process quotas', but no idea how exactly one uses them..
20120102 19:04:01< shadowmaster>  I'm trying ulimit -m but I seem to be doing something wrong.
20120102 19:05:01< shadowmaster> set to 1048576 in a shell session, and wesnoth-debug can still get to 3 GiB and slow down my system when running on it
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20120102 19:08:57< shadowmaster> okay, combining that with ulimit -v appears to have worked
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20120102 19:39:35< CIA-85> ivanovic * r52447 /trunk/po/ (10 files in 10 dirs): updated Hungarian translation
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20120102 19:44:17< shadowmaster> I could use some help/comments here: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?19233
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20120102 20:02:21< shadowmaster> (on the tracker, of course. I didn't mark it Private without a good reason)
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20120102 21:22:07< anonymissimus> Alarantalara: knowing the source can be very helful in finding one's addon errors at times...I looked at the source line slowthinker's message pointed to and made it clear to me that unexistant_terrain should be the string the wml author passes as a terrain string :)
20120102 21:22:51< Alarantalara> very true
20120102 21:46:49< anonymissimus> zookeeper: I would love someone coming up with a good idea how to deal with http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=35768&p=517175#p517175
20120102 21:47:42< anonymissimus> I'LL revert my commits that introduced the problem
20120102 21:48:38< anonymissimus> but it means that ABILITY_TELEPORT will not be applyable via an [object] mand that breaks compatibility heavily as well, so I need to make this ugly delayed_... key
20120102 21:50:30< anonymissimus> it should be possible to add teleport ability by using set_variables with literal and insert_tag btu seems to heavy to me to require it as a workaround of wml authors
20120102 22:26:09< zookeeper> anonymissimus, i don't think i even understand all aspects of the problem fully, so...
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20120102 22:42:20< anonymissimus> :(((
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20120102 23:12:11< CIA-85> anonymissimus * r52448 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
20120102 23:12:11< CIA-85> Revert revisions of mine: 51930, 51947
20120102 23:12:11< CIA-85> These were the variable substitution delaying in the [object] code. It is
20120102 23:12:11< CIA-85> no longer needed due to the workaround [object]delayed_...=yes|no.
20120102 23:12:11< CIA-85> Removes repeated wml parsing. Reverts behavior to mostly what was in 1.8
20120102 23:12:12< CIA-85> If ABILITY_TELEPORT is added by an [object], or [object][effect][filter]
20120102 23:12:13< CIA-85> contains $this_unit, delayed_...=yes is required for the modifications
20120102 23:12:51< CIA-85> anonymissimus * r52449 /trunk/changelog: changelog update
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20120102 23:23:25< dipseydoodle> Hello
20120102 23:24:11< dipseydoodle> Is the event tag available under [multiplayer][/multplayer]
20120102 23:24:11< dipseydoodle> ?
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20120102 23:24:29< dipseydoodle> I'm using it for [message]
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20120102 23:24:32< shadowmaster> Of course not. That's unconceivably dumb!
20120102 23:24:39< dipseydoodle> lol
20120102 23:24:40< dipseydoodle> ok
20120102 23:25:01< shadowmaster> You really need to learn to check existing examples.
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20120102 23:25:20< dipseydoodle> lol... Just downloaded a new version
20120102 23:25:31< dipseydoodle> I haven't used wesnoth for several weeks/months
20120102 23:25:52< dipseydoodle> But I see where your comming from
20120102 23:26:14< shadowmaster> multiplayer is identical to scenario and test and the only difference is the context in which the scenario is available or considered
20120102 23:28:50< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: the essence of this last sentence of yours isn't very obvious though
20120102 23:29:19< anonymissimus> that could be written into the wiki as-is
20120102 23:29:51< shadowmaster> I dislike writing documentation.
20120102 23:33:19< dipseydoodle> Anyway.
20120102 23:33:25< dipseydoodle> I figured it out thanks
20120102 23:33:41< dipseydoodle> Gonna be releasing a mappack tonight
20120102 23:33:57< dipseydoodle> Dialog will be terrible for now though :P
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20120102 23:54:32< shadowmaster> Gambit: what's the status of the plans for Desura?
20120102 23:54:49< Gambit> I'm not sure.
20120102 23:55:00< Gambit> noy: Shall I move forward?
20120102 23:55:52< Gambit> I ought to use 1.8.6 as a test and use Desura's beta program to open it up to a few people, and then go for real when 1.10 is out.
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20120102 23:57:04< dipseydoodle> Ok I ran into a problem now... recruitment=
20120102 23:57:21< dipseydoodle> Am I doing something wrong? I have it under [side}
20120102 23:57:40< shadowmaster> Yes. You are making up syntax, for starters.
20120102 23:57:47< dipseydoodle> Oh?
20120102 23:57:52< dipseydoodle> I mean
20120102 23:57:57< dipseydoodle> recruit
20120102 23:57:58< dipseydoodle> =
20120102 23:58:04< dipseydoodle> srry
20120102 23:58:42< dipseydoodle> You say I am making up syntax?
20120102 23:58:54< shadowmaster> That's what I said above.
20120102 23:58:59< dipseydoodle> Oh
20120102 23:59:14< dipseydoodle> Because if I'm correct recruit= is correct.
20120102 23:59:33< dipseydoodle> Because it declares what units may be recruited, right?
20120102 23:59:39< noy> hmmm Gambit 
20120102 23:59:47< shadowmaster> I think http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SideWML would be a more reliable source of confirmation than your guesswork.
20120102 23:59:54< dipseydoodle> lol ok
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