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20120112 01:10:52< CIA-91> alarantalara * r52563 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/swamp/ (6 files): 
20120112 01:10:52< CIA-91> Rename reed images to match requirements of OVERLAY_COMPLETE macro.
20120112 01:10:52< CIA-91> Fixes unreported bug affecting reeds in swamp terrain.
20120112 01:13:58< CIA-91> alarantalara * r52564 /trunk/data/core/terrain-graphics/internal-complex.cfg: 
20120112 01:13:58< CIA-91> Draw fallback small images if large images not available for OVERLAY_COMPLETE.
20120112 01:13:58< CIA-91> Fixes unreported bug affecting reeds in swamp terrain.
20120112 01:19:06< Alarantalara> This now correctly minimizes the amount of swamp water visible (it actually does a better job than 1.8 now)
20120112 01:23:31 * shadowm can't notice a difference.
20120112 01:32:47< Alarantalara> Try a swamp next to a single hex of hills
20120112 01:33:35< shadowm> aahhhh
20120112 01:34:12< shadowm> indeed, much better now
20120112 01:34:46< Alarantalara> There were images for that case, but they got missed in the macro rewrite
20120112 01:52:55< CIA-91> alarantalara * r52565 /trunk/data/core/ (318 files in 2 dirs): 
20120112 01:52:55< CIA-91> Use 1.8 images for swamp water, fixes bug #18601
20120112 01:52:55< CIA-91> Animation for water was removed and the 1.8 images have more detail than a frame of the 1.9 ones
20120112 01:52:55< CIA-91> Also restores old variety in appearance due to flowers, etc.
20120112 01:53:43< Alarantalara> I've kept a copy of the animations. I'll move them into the attic after I've checked it out
20120112 02:00:44< CIA-91> alarantalara * r52566 /trunk/attic/swamp/ (286 files): Store swamp water animations in attic
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20120112 04:20:24< CIA-91> shadowmaster * r52567 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/forest/ (4 files): Update the terrain palette icons for winter/fall single or mixed forested hills so they show the default base Hhd instead of Hh
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20120112 08:27:37< CIA-91> espreon * r52568 /trunk/data/multiplayer/scenarios/5p_The_Wilderlands.cfg: 'villages_value' -> 'village_value'; fixes bug #19260.
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20120112 09:41:45< Rhonda> Hmmm, I am still wondering what DroidSansFallbackFull.ttf and DroidSansJapanese.ttf are …
20120112 09:42:07< Rhonda> and fonts/COPYING doesn't contain the information
20120112 09:42:30< Rhonda> Only about bitstream vera and andagii
20120112 09:44:15< Espreon> Rhonda: It says they're covered by the Apache license.
20120112 09:44:38< Rhonda> That doesn't cover the other part of my question though :)
20120112 09:45:01< Rhonda> We have the fonts-droid package in Debian.
20120112 09:45:35< Rhonda> That contains DroidSansFallback.ttf and DroidSansJapanese.ttf …
20120112 09:45:41< Espreon> Well, they're the new fonts for CJK.
20120112 09:45:45< Rhonda> Might the DroidSansFallback be the FallbackFull?
20120112 09:45:50< Espreon> Oh...
20120112 09:46:02< Espreon> No idea.
20120112 09:46:17< Rhonda> I guess I'll install the package and do an md5sum comparison.
20120112 09:46:25< Espreon> I think that might be futile.
20120112 09:46:31< Rhonda> Having no copyright information at all is an issue though.
20120112 09:46:38< Espreon> Hmmm, actually, no.
20120112 09:46:43< Rhonda> why?
20120112 09:46:46< Espreon> Only DroidSansJapanese was modified.
20120112 09:46:56< Rhonda> …
20120112 09:47:01< Espreon> So, you're fine.
20120112 09:47:13< Rhonda> modification sent upstream?
20120112 09:47:17< Espreon> Nope.
20120112 09:47:22< Espreon> Well, probably not.
20120112 09:47:26< Rhonda> why?
20120112 09:47:34< Rhonda> not playing well with the FOSS community?
20120112 09:47:47< Espreon> Well, the Droid people don't have to care about whether or not their fonts work on Windows.
20120112 09:48:46< Rhonda> So I can use the unmodified one?
20120112 09:49:01< Rhonda> What's the issue with working on windows actually?
20120112 09:49:02< Espreon> Probably.
20120112 09:49:17< Espreon> I'm not sure.
20120112 09:50:12< Espreon> Rhonda: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=516947#p516947
20120112 09:53:26< Rhonda> that is about the changing of the font, but I stopped caring :P
20120112 09:53:52< Espreon> All right, then.
20120112 09:54:17< Rhonda> or rather, read: I don't have the time to dig into a thread deeper
20120112 09:55:37< Espreon> I'm pretty sure the first post mentions the Windows issues.
20120112 09:55:46< Espreon> ... but whatever.
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20120112 09:58:32< Ivanovic> moin
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20120112 10:11:50< Rhonda> Espreon: The only match for windows was later in the thread and no response that lead me to the impression of a changed font.  Like said, don't have the time
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20120112 10:13:08< Espreon> Rhonda: Well, you really don't have to care. You're the Debian packager.
20120112 10:13:51< Rhonda> Well, I have to care if the font is modified for something that makes sense.  And I really would like to see the changes sent upstream.
20120112 10:15:46< Espreon> It's been modified to fix a Windows-specific issue. I think the change was mentioned somewhere in one of the mailinglists.
20120112 10:26:32< Ivanovic> Rhonda: in this mail the new fonts were proposed: https://mail.gna.org/public/wesnoth-i18n/2011-12/msg00008.html
20120112 10:26:41< Ivanovic> "known issue 3" is about the required modification to japanese
20120112 10:27:10< Ivanovic> for you relevant is "Notes;" point 2
20120112 10:28:05< Ivanovic> Rhonda: though what can happen is that DroidSansJapanese will again be replaced by a different font
20120112 10:28:14< Ivanovic> since some japanese people seem to not be 100% satisfied
20120112 10:28:37< Ivanovic> cf https://mail.gna.org/public/wesnoth-i18n/2012-01/msg00004.html
20120112 10:29:51< Ivanovic> (the last link includes the possible explaination where there is not much incentive at the droid people to fix the japanese font for windows!)
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20120112 10:39:43< Ivanovic> fabi: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=518223#p518223
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20120112 10:50:15< fabi> Ivanovic: Danke
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20120112 10:53:40< Ivanovic> shadowm: seems as if making the "1.10" part in the announcement more prominent did not increase the user numbers for the dev version
20120112 10:54:04< Ivanovic> at least when considering the graphs with the usernumbers for the dev server available under wesnothd.wesnoth.org
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20120112 11:03:32< Espreon> Something more drastic has to be done...
20120112 11:04:45< Espreon> ... but what?
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20120112 11:12:27< Ivanovic> technical difficulties with the 1.8 mp server(s) for a week?
20120112 11:12:28< Ivanovic> ^^
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20120112 12:16:36< Rhonda> Ivanovic: No. Time.
20120112 12:16:45< Rhonda> FFS
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20120112 17:15:12< shadowm> Ivanovic: it was worth a shot, though
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20120112 17:39:27< Espreon> Ivanovic: Sounds like a good idea to me.
20120112 17:39:35< Espreon> But then again, I'm heartless, so...
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20120112 18:39:04< anonymissimus> Alarantalara: as for the the tropical forest; perhaps add it in 1.11 as a new terrain string, with name "rain forest"; so UMC doesn't get broken and maps don't need to be edited
20120112 18:40:00< anonymissimus> and use the new palm grove for the old tropical forest
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20120112 18:57:01< Espreon> anonymissimus: I don't think [store_unit][filter]find_in= works...
20120112 18:57:33< anonymissimus> Espreon: thats a blocker then, pls report
20120112 18:57:48< anonymissimus> I dunno what I should have to do with it though
20120112 18:59:13< anonymissimus> if its broken you might also try fixing it yourself, its perhaps easy xD
20120112 18:59:54< Espreon> Well, hopefully, I'm just not misunderstanding things; this is how I'm testing it: http://pastebin.com/3WCqDJg6
20120112 19:00:00< Espreon> And no, I wouldn't be able to fix it.
20120112 19:00:16< Espreon> Not even if over nine thousand Internetz were offered.
20120112 19:00:33< Espreon> And yes, I've never used find_in= before... nor have I ever seen it used before, so blargh.
20120112 19:03:50< vultraz> anonymissimus: I took a look at the lua def for [store_unit] and it seems it might be a problem with wesnoth.get_units
20120112 19:11:55< anonymissimus> Espreon: it seems I've also never used it
20120112 19:12:18< anonymissimus> there's several usecaes in ma addons but all for the SLF's find_in
20120112 19:13:52< Espreon> I see.
20120112 19:16:36< zookeeper> umm, if you create a unit into a variable, then which unit is the [store_unit] supposed to find..?
20120112 19:16:52< Espreon> The unit in the variable.
20120112 19:16:58< zookeeper> that [store_unit] attempts to store a unit with id=Lord Mu. is there any?
20120112 19:17:11< Espreon> In variable mu.
20120112 19:17:22< zookeeper> nonono, it doesn't work like that
20120112 19:17:37< zookeeper> you're telling it to store any units which have a counterpart in the variable mu
20120112 19:17:43< zookeeper> IIRC it does the comparison by id
20120112 19:18:00< Espreon> I feared so.
20120112 19:18:09< zookeeper> so, it looks at the variable, and then goes off to find any units on the map which have id=Lord Mu, and there's none
20120112 19:20:22< janebot> Wesnoth Forums | Developers’ Discussions • Re: [STATUS] Forum/MP server login changes for Wesnoth 1.10 by Warfall [ 01-12-2012 18:12 ] [ http://r.wesnoth.org/p518299 ]
20120112 19:20:25< anonymissimus> of course zookeeper is right with that
20120112 19:20:42< anonymissimus> the unit to store could also be in the recall list though
20120112 19:21:28< anonymissimus> but you can't make a "copy" of a wml container describing a unit that way, use set_variables and insert_tag if you want that
20120112 19:22:33< anonymissimus> and it compares by id yes, see unit.cpp:1550 following
20120112 19:23:33< anonymissimus> I imagine it to be a problem that it's using the id_ member directly, so I guess that it only works for units which have been given a explicit id= by wml
20120112 19:24:00< anonymissimus> as opposed to units which have an id such as Troll-1340 etc
20120112 19:25:03< anonymissimus> but in the wml snippet you pasted you are giving it an id= that can cannot be the case
20120112 19:25:41< anonymissimus> but anyway, in case that it breaks for units which haven't been given an id= by wml then that's a bug
20120112 19:26:31< zookeeper> how could it break for them?
20120112 19:27:13< zookeeper> does the engine treat auto-generated and WML-specified id's differently?
20120112 19:28:04< anonymissimus> zookeeper: yes
20120112 19:28:27< zookeeper> right, underlying_id and all that
20120112 19:28:35< zookeeper> if that's still used, dunno
20120112 19:28:57< anonymissimus> well from what the code looks like I *expect* it to break for auto-generated ids
20120112 19:29:16< anonymissimus> so your snippet should work with an id= given but not without
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20120112 19:30:41< janebot> Wesnoth Forums | Developers’ Discussions • Re: [STATUS] Forum/MP server login changes for Wesnoth 1.10 by shadowmaster [ 01-12-2012 18:27 ] [ http://r.wesnoth.org/p518300 ]
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20120112 20:27:48< anonymissimus> Espreon: works for me
20120112 20:30:08< anonymissimus> both autogenerated and wml-set ids
20120112 20:30:29< anonymissimus> its is still bad code though, since filtering by id uses other code
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20120112 20:41:08< CIA-91> anonymissimus * r52569 /trunk/data/core/units/humans/Loyalist_Spearman.cfg: 
20120112 20:41:09< CIA-91> Fix some spearman attack animations being too slow.
20120112 20:41:09< CIA-91> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35873&p=518255#p518255
20120112 20:41:09< CIA-91> Calculated frame length of new sw, s, se animations so that
20120112 20:41:09< CIA-91> the whole animation length matches the length of the other old animations.
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20120112 20:54:55< shadowm> anonymissimus: if those were using the new frames it might've been intentional
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20120112 21:09:18< anonymissimus> new frames means what ?
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20120112 21:12:12< anonymissimus> shadowm^
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20120112 21:13:30< shadowm> the new commissioned animations
20120112 21:18:45 * anonymissimus doesnt get it
20120112 21:19:18< anonymissimus> it looked particularly weird if one spearman was attacking another one
20120112 21:21:28< anonymissimus> if they make new animtions then they should make all of them new for the same unit type/code the animation wml properly
20120112 21:22:52< shadowm> forget it
20120112 21:22:57 * shadowm will take a look at the diff later.
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20120112 23:12:18< anonymissimus> shadowm: good to see that the trick with calling it 1.10 seems to work ;)
20120112 23:13:26< shadowm> Ivanovic said it didn't
20120112 23:14:06< shadowm> and it isn't new, anyway. The only change was the order of the numbers in the official announcements.
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20120112 23:33:38< anonymissimus> shadowm: perhaps you should purge some more accounts, for instance, make it impossible to play on the mp server unless at least 1 feedback post per month xD
20120112 23:35:12< shadowm> that would sure keep philosophers busy trying to figure out which comes first
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