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20120113 00:40:05< Bob_The_Mighty> is there anyone here who can help me run wmllint?
20120113 00:44:38< shadowm> on Windows? not me
20120113 00:45:59< Bob_The_Mighty> yeah, on windows xp. i have used it before, but all i get now is a flash of it - too quick to read
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20120113 03:53:22< AI0867> Soliton: thanks, that may help me figure out why the thing isn't working properly
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20120113 05:53:01< CIA-91> shadowmaster * r52570 /trunk/data/campaigns/An_Orcish_Incursion/scenarios/03_Wasteland.cfg: AOI scenario 3: select a new unit with the Adviser (sic) role for dialogs if the original unit selected at the start of the scenario died
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20120113 06:46:54< Espreon> shadowm: Both "adviser" and "advisor" are fine.
20120113 06:55:31< janebot> Wesnoth Forums | Developers’ Discussions • Re: [STATUS] Forum/MP server login changes for Wesnoth 1.10 by Cold Steel [ 01-13-2012 05:47 ] [ http://r.wesnoth.org/p518376 ]
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20120113 07:00:56< shadowm> Espreon: "adviser" sounds like a Britishism to me.
20120113 07:01:02< shadowm> Or it could be the other way around.
20120113 07:01:43< Espreon> Yeah, "advisor" is far more common in en_US.
20120113 07:02:02< Espreon> But "adviser" is not unacceptable in en_US.
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20120113 07:03:06< jxb091000> maybe the one used should depend on locale?
20120113 07:03:26< Espreon> jxb091000: We're talking about an internal thing.
20120113 07:03:32< jxb091000> oh
20120113 07:03:57< shadowm> Yeah, it's just an internal unit role id which is spelled differently in these scenarios.
20120113 07:05:20< janebot> Wesnoth Forums | Developers’ Discussions • Re: [STATUS] Forum/MP server login changes for Wesnoth 1.10 by shadowmaster [ 01-13-2012 05:55 ] [ http://r.wesnoth.org/p518377 ]
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20120113 09:31:45< Ivanovic> moin
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20120113 10:06:05< CIA-91> ivanovic * r52571 /website/start/1.10/ (14 files in 2 dirs): 
20120113 10:06:05< CIA-91> updated French and Lithuanian announcement translation
20120113 10:06:05< CIA-91> made sure that all po files are updated against the latest catalog
20120113 10:10:42< CIA-91> ivanovic * r52572 /trunk/po/ (5 files in 5 dirs): updated French translation
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20120113 13:28:25< apoi_> Hi! http://wiki.wesnoth.org/RelatedTools shows the old ladder URL.
20120113 13:43:15< apoi_> I created a wiki account and fixed it. I also fixed the link on http://wiki.wesnoth.org/UsefulLinks#Other_Links
20120113 13:44:26< Ivanovic> apoi_: great!
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20120113 14:51:18< Glowcat> Hey. Is there a way to filter an event in WML so that it only grants a unit to a specific Username?
20120113 14:52:49< zookeeper> "Username" as in the local username, or nick on the MP server?
20120113 14:52:56< Glowcat> Nick on MP
20120113 14:53:07< zookeeper> well, you can check the name of the side's leader
20120113 14:54:21< zookeeper> something as simple as this should work: [if] [have_unit] side,canrecruit,name=1,yes,"Glowcat"
20120113 14:54:34< zookeeper> maybe you need to put name= in [filter_wml], i'm not sure if it's part of SLF
20120113 14:54:39< zookeeper> s/SLF/SUF
20120113 14:54:41< Glowcat> Alright, I'll try that. I wasn't sure how to do it although that was a method I considered
20120113 14:56:10< Glowcat> Thanks for the help
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20120113 15:48:23< anonymissimus> AI0867: what is the status of addon-translatability ? should it be enough to upload my addon to the server with translate=true ?
20120113 15:49:09< anonymissimus> (of course I know that I should run wmllint etc to check for macro refs in trans strings etc but that doesnt help much in this case since it's mostly lua code)
20120113 15:49:28< anonymissimus> so I would expect things to break
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20120113 16:05:50< anonymissimus> Espreon: you also seem to have to do with it :)
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20120113 16:46:14< Gambit> I just found a strange... bug? in the RNG maybe
20120113 16:46:35< Gambit> If you generate four random numbers in WML and then close the program
20120113 16:46:40< Gambit> Then reopen it and generate four numbers again
20120113 16:46:44< Gambit> They're the exact same numbers
20120113 16:47:16< Gambit> I have a scenario that has four prestart events each generating a random number with [set_variable]'s rand = "1..999"
20120113 16:47:29< Gambit> And I get the exact same numbers every time
20120113 16:47:53< zookeeper> IIRC that's intentional
20120113 16:48:32< zookeeper> the random seed is stored in the savefile (even in beginning-of-scenario saves)
20120113 16:49:06< Gambit> But I don't reload the game, I was starting a new match on the same scenario
20120113 16:49:22< zookeeper> oh? well, that's funny then.
20120113 16:53:30< Gambit> Okay after doing a lot more trials it's actually alternating between 3 sets of numbers.
20120113 16:55:25< Gambit> Mostly it just does 855, 764, 124, 533
20120113 16:56:22< Gambit> Okay you don't have to close the program. You can just quit that match and make new ones.
20120113 16:56:30< Gambit> zookeeper: Do you know why this is intentional?
20120113 16:56:34< Gambit> It's not random at all...
20120113 16:56:50< zookeeper> it probably isn't
20120113 16:57:08< Gambit> Okay so I need to find how these seeds are determined.
20120113 16:57:24< Gambit> This has got to be a blocker
20120113 16:57:41< Gambit> This means any scenario relying on random numbers is barely random at all.
20120113 16:58:10< anonymissimus> Gambit: lol, no blocker
20120113 16:58:25< anonymissimus> it has always been that way probably
20120113 16:58:37< anonymissimus> or since mordante coded it
20120113 16:59:37< anonymissimus> make a fight or so that changes it
20120113 16:59:41< anonymissimus> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=35806&p=517818#p517818
20120113 17:00:23< anonymissimus> and there's a way around it by using the tag frm the WLP, as discusssed in that thread
20120113 17:00:51< zookeeper> it still doesn't make any sense, though.
20120113 17:01:38< Gambit> There should be a new random seed for every new match
20120113 17:02:18< anonymissimus> have you tried deleting the cache ?
20120113 17:02:43< Gambit> I have an add-on that randomly picks a person to be the first player.
20120113 17:02:58< Gambit> I can't force players to all delete their caches after every match...
20120113 17:03:14< anonymissimus> and making stuff that is "too random" is OOS-problematic you know
20120113 17:04:07< zookeeper> "too random" like for example every single to-hit roll? :x
20120113 17:04:19< zookeeper> those seem to work pretty well.
20120113 17:04:54< Gambit> It's frankly retarded to have all random numbers set in stone for a given scenario
20120113 17:05:37< anonymissimus> Crendgrim: nah, no copy, [base_unit]: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=35880&p=518416#p518416
20120113 17:07:01< anonymissimus> well try to use the tag from the WLP; you will have to do it in a turn 1 event however
20120113 17:08:46< Gambit> Maybe later.
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20120113 17:08:56< Gambit> First I'm going to try to hunt down this obvious bug.
20120113 17:09:04< Gambit> So that as soon as 1.11 opens up I can squish it.
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20120113 17:21:24< Crendgrim> anonymissimus: oh, right... indeed forgot that. -.-
20120113 17:23:22< Espreon> anonymissimus: Yeah, WesCamp II is up and running, but insertion wasn't fixed, so you still have to bother with putting the mo files in your add-ons.
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20120113 17:25:32< anonymissimus> Espreon: meaning I have to manually upload it with wesnoth ?
20120113 17:26:21< Espreon> Uh, yeah.
20120113 17:26:30< anonymissimus> Ivanovic: is there somewhere example on how to run the perl wmlxgettext in utils/, -h, --help and looking into it don't reveal anything
20120113 17:26:49< anonymissimus> this is not very user-friendly
20120113 17:26:58< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: yes, it is not very user friendly
20120113 17:27:11< Ivanovic> and i don't run it manually at all, i just use what the build system generates
20120113 17:27:39< anonymissimus> well could you paste an example command line ?
20120113 17:28:44< Espreon> anonymissimus: And why do you wish to use it directly?
20120113 17:28:53< Ivanovic> i can paste you what cmake is calling during the pot-update step
20120113 17:29:01< Ivanovic> but, uhm, you don't use it manually
20120113 17:29:32< anonymissimus> because I want to check my addon since I expect things to break
20120113 17:29:37< Ivanovic> cd /src/wesnoth && /src/wesnoth/utils/wmlxgettext --directory=/src/wesnoth --domain=wesnoth-dm `cd /src/wesnoth && sh /src/wesnoth/po/wesnoth-dm/FINDCFG` > /src/wesnoth/po/wesnoth-dm/wesnoth-dm.wml.pot
20120113 17:30:15< anonymissimus> ok thx
20120113 17:32:17< anonymissimus> hm seems the python one works well, I can even open the generated po
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20120113 17:34:33< anonymissimus> although as expected it breaks when saving due to the duplicate messages which the python wmlxgettext version doesnt check for
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20120113 17:40:23< anonymissimus> does the perl wmlxgettext check for duplicate strings ? otherwise theres no point for me in using it
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20120113 17:43:29< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: i know that the perl script works for mainline
20120113 17:43:48< Ivanovic> though there might be additional steps during the pot-update filtering out dupes or the likes
20120113 17:45:44< janebot> Wesnoth Forums | Developers’ Discussions • Re: [STATUS] Forum/MP server login changes for Wesnoth 1.10 by Cold Steel [ 01-13-2012 16:45 ] [ http://r.wesnoth.org/p518441 ]
20120113 17:46:58< Ivanovic>  /usr/bin/msgcat --sort-by-file /src/wesnoth/po/wesnoth-ei/wesnoth-ei.cpp.pot /src/wesnoth/po/wesnoth-ei/wesnoth-ei.wml.pot --output /src/wesnoth/po/wesnoth-ei/wesnoth-ei.pot
20120113 17:47:29< Ivanovic> this is done after both the files for cpp as well as wml were created
20120113 17:47:38< Ivanovic> afterwards every string will be unique
20120113 17:48:18< anonymissimus> ok so there is an additional step to make the strings unique ?
20120113 17:48:48< Ivanovic> no idea if this is an extra step *required* to make the strings unique
20120113 17:49:02< Ivanovic> i just know that this step is called to merge two .pot files into one
20120113 17:49:18< Ivanovic> and since the strings can possibly be in both there *could* be some merging involved, too
20120113 17:49:49< Ivanovic> but as i mentioned before: i do *NOT* run the tools manually by hand, they are integrated in the build systems in a way so that they "just work"
20120113 17:50:51< anonymissimus> yeah and I wonder how much time the one setting that up needed to get all the command lines right
20120113 17:51:05< anonymissimus> a year perhaps or more
20120113 17:51:21< Ivanovic> why?
20120113 17:51:34< Ivanovic> the general idea is really simple: apply stuff on list of files, create file
20120113 17:51:42< Ivanovic> merge two files, created pot file
20120113 17:51:58< Ivanovic> merge po file with translations against the latest catalog (aka pot file)
20120113 17:52:09< Ivanovic> "compile" po files into mo files
20120113 17:52:20< Ivanovic> no need to work for years on stuff
20120113 17:52:57< Ivanovic> you just sit down a day to gather all the correct things you want to do and script it for future use
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20120113 17:59:17< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: I've done the scons implementation of that i18n stuff. It definitely didn't require a year :P
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20120113 18:06:56< CIA-91> ivanovic * r52573 /trunk/ (29 files in 2 dirs): 
20120113 18:06:56< CIA-91> applied utils/wesnoth-optipng
20120113 18:06:56< CIA-91> Overall statistics (only for files with a smaller recompressed size):
20120113 18:06:56< CIA-91> Original size: 164 KiB on 29 files
20120113 18:06:56< CIA-91> Optimized size: 163 KiB
20120113 18:06:56< CIA-91> Total saving: 1 KiB = 0% decrease
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20120113 18:36:09< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: yeah but you are the super-skilled scons-ist; I need a year
20120113 18:36:32< anonymissimus> ok the perl one checks for duplicates
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20120113 18:57:34< anonymissimus> Espreon: why is there no --! #textdomain wesnoth line in data/lua/wml/objectives.lua ?
20120113 18:58:22< anonymissimus> do the strings there work when translated, and is at least one of them unique to the file
20120113 18:59:42< anonymissimus> well they should be pretty unique
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20120113 19:07:48< anonymissimus> Espreon: and btw it seems that the translatable strings in data/lua/wml-tags.lua are never extracted
20120113 19:08:02< shadowm> AI0867: ^
20120113 19:08:18< anonymissimus> it shouldnt be noticable however, since all of them are not unique to that file
20120113 19:08:26< anonymissimus> probably
20120113 19:11:01< anonymissimus> shadowm: do you have translatable strings in your addon's lua files ? and got them to translate ?
20120113 19:11:48< shadowm> no and no
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20120113 19:38:56< anonymissimus> AI0867: yes; it seems that putting [x] anywhere into a lua file breaks wmlxgettext
20120113 19:39:13< anonymissimus> unfortunately that is extremely frequent
20120113 19:39:45< anonymissimus> for instance, local b = a[x] is ok, but return a[x] is not
20120113 19:43:38< anonymissimus> AI0867: if you run it on data/lua/wml-tags.lua you should get an error from line 258, so that file can't be extracted
20120113 19:44:15< anonymissimus> now, some of the lua files in mainline work, others don't, and within my addon it's the same ;)
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20120113 21:22:33< anonymissimus> Soliton: how are mainline maps and factions balanced ? Do you have statistics over which faction won over which other faction on which map how many times on the official server, and ideally this number should be the same for all mainline combinations of factions/maps ?
20120113 21:23:49< anonymissimus> there is a problem with one of the maps from the update you committed, see https://gna.org/bugs/?1928
20120113 21:24:59< anonymissimus> (it doesn't work for other eras than the default one, since the balancing idea requires "detecting" the factions used)
20120113 21:26:01< zookeeper> the ratio shouldn't be the same since not all factions are as easy to play well.
20120113 21:26:07< zookeeper> also, wtf is up with that bug report?
20120113 21:26:16< zookeeper> the link doesn't even work.
20120113 21:26:51< zookeeper> and wtf is "Tolstoj Editor"?
20120113 21:26:52< anonymissimus> https://gna.org/bugs/?19281
20120113 21:27:06< anonymissimus> the last number got lost in my copy-paste :)
20120113 21:27:30< zookeeper> yeah, i just realized that i was looking at some other project :P
20120113 21:27:50< anonymissimus> but tolstoj editor sounds interesting ;)
20120113 21:29:06< anonymissimus> "the ratio shouldn't be the same since not all factions are as easy to play well": but doesn't that imply that the factions are unbalanced then ?
20120113 21:29:34< anonymissimus> if a faction is harder or easier to play than the other 5 factions that it is unbalanced
20120113 21:32:02< zookeeper> anonymissimus, urgh, don't agitate doc.
20120113 21:32:37< zookeeper> and no, i don't see why factions would have to be as easy to play to be balanced.
20120113 21:33:21< zookeeper> a complete newbie will probably do better with rebels than with drakes. that doesn't mean they're unabalanced.
20120113 21:37:46< Espreon> anonymissimus: You're kidding, right?
20120113 21:43:11< anonymissimus> Espreon: kidding about what ?
20120113 21:45:17< Espreon> 21:29 < anonymissimus> if a faction is harder or easier to play than the other 5 factions that it is unbalanced
20120113 21:46:56< anonymissimus> hm well disregard that
20120113 21:47:05< Espreon> Of course.
20120113 21:47:24< anonymissimus> and what about the textdomain thing I asked ?
20120113 21:48:15< anonymissimus> [18:57]	<anonymissimus>	Espreon: why is there no --! #textdomain wesnoth line in data/lua/wml/objectives.lua ?
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20120113 21:48:40< anonymissimus> there should be such a line to extract the strings in that file to the right domain
20120113 21:48:52< Gambit> anonymissimus: Can you help me? What's wrong with this: http://pastebin.com/0y1W7c8h
20120113 21:49:01< Gambit> I'm using [rand_range] in a turn 1 event, but it's OOSing.
20120113 21:49:01< anonymissimus> perhaps #textdomain wesnoth is a default value ?
20120113 21:49:27< Espreon> anonymissimus: Probably.
20120113 21:49:35< Espreon> But I dunno.
20120113 21:49:48< anonymissimus> but the translations worked when you checked them didn't they ?
20120113 21:50:32< Espreon> Yar.
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20120113 21:53:24< anonymissimus> well, _"(%d turns left)" is translated for me so obviously theres somewhere the translated version for that string
20120113 21:54:14< Espreon> ... Yeah.
20120113 21:54:52< shadowm> if you check the pot you'll notice the source for the string is data/lua/wml/objectives.lua:71
20120113 21:57:34< anonymissimus> Gambit: dunno, looks like it should work
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20120113 21:58:00< anonymissimus> perhaps check with messages whether the result of the call is the same on the clients
20120113 21:58:29< anonymissimus> and probably don't use register_wml_action but I dont think that could be a problem
20120113 21:58:45< anonymissimus> only if that deprecated things gets removed
20120113 21:59:45< anonymissimus> perhaps your OOS comes from something else; and need to call the tag from a turn 1 event, not earlier
20120113 22:00:03< Soliton> anonymissimus: balancing is done according to expert opinion. statistics from random players is rarely involved.
20120113 22:00:05< Gambit> Hmm
20120113 22:00:23< Gambit> anonymissimus: Does wesnoth.require() require that everyone has the file?
20120113 22:00:41< Gambit> Or can only the host have it?
20120113 22:01:13< anonymissimus> Gambit: every client needs to have it
20120113 22:01:27< Gambit> Bah. That's parto f the problem.
20120113 22:01:29< Gambit> Thanks
20120113 22:01:33< anonymissimus> in most cases
20120113 22:02:00< anonymissimus> if you want to transfer lu code over the network you need to embed it
20120113 22:02:52< anonymissimus> with the [lua] tags and << >> etc
20120113 22:05:53< Soliton> anonymissimus: i guess for that bug i'd be nice if someone can make it so nothing is spawned if the faction of one side can not be determined.
20120113 22:06:07< Soliton> s/i'd/it'd/
20120113 22:06:36< zookeeper> yeah, that's the right fix to do
20120113 22:07:50< Gambit> anonymissimus: I could do [lua] code = {~/add-ons/foo/bar.lua} yes?
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20120113 22:12:57< Gambit> No. :(
20120113 22:25:53< CIA-91> espreon * r52574 /website/start/1.10/ (11 files in 2 dirs): Added the Finnish translation of the 1.10 announcement.
20120113 22:35:56< CIA-91> espreon * r52575 /website/start/1.10/ (index.fi.html po/fi.po): Fixed a couple of issues with the Finnish release announcement.
20120113 22:38:49< anonymissimus> Soliton: but determining the faction of a side is basically not possible
20120113 22:38:53< CIA-91> espreon * r52576 /website/start/1.10/po/es.po: Corrected the Language-Team field in the Spanish .po file.
20120113 22:39:10< anonymissimus> imagine the recruit= attribute gets sorted differently
20120113 22:39:19< anonymissimus> the way its done now would break again
20120113 22:40:19< anonymissimus> it is basically impossible to determine the faction in a sane way (which is what these crazy mp people don't get, love that term @shadowmaster)
20120113 22:41:31< shadowm> you are one of them, though
20120113 22:42:02< CIA-91> espreon * r52577 /trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Updated the Finnish translation.
20120113 22:42:26< anonymissimus> I am a crazy mp guy ? :P
20120113 22:42:38< anonymissimus> because I have an mp addon ?
20120113 22:42:42< shadowm> yup
20120113 22:42:50< anonymissimus> well I don't mind
20120113 22:44:23< zookeeper> well you can check the whole recruit list using a big bunch of [variable] contains= checks
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20120113 22:44:45< zookeeper> who cares if it's not 100% accurate in all cases, when it'll probably work in 99% of cases in 1.10
20120113 22:46:24< zookeeper> besides, you could probably just check the entire recruit string as-is, unless the order somehow ends up being different on different platforms or something, which i doubt.
20120113 22:48:13< anonymissimus> hm whats needed is a comparison recruit-by-recruit
20120113 22:48:28< zookeeper> on an unrelated note, the finnish announcement is as horrible as the translation itself...
20120113 22:48:45< anonymissimus> I dont think the order could change
20120113 22:49:41< anonymissimus> so comparing the complete string should be fine, and if it doesn't find a match match for both, we don't generate any units
20120113 22:49:47< zookeeper> why? you could just check which default era faction each side has and give them units accordingly. and/or if anyone has a default era faction, don't give anyone the units.
20120113 22:50:02< zookeeper> right, i guess that's what you mean
20120113 22:50:03< Espreon> zookeeper: Tell Jarkko that.
20120113 22:50:35< zookeeper> Espreon, i'm pretty sure i have, in the past ;)
20120113 22:50:39< anonymissimus> but contains= check is also bad, then units could be generated for AoH
20120113 22:50:52< Espreon> Eh heh heh...
20120113 22:50:56< anonymissimus> and we want them only for default
20120113 22:51:59< zookeeper> anonymissimus, [if] [variable] name=side1recruits contains="Spearman,Mage,Merman Fighter,Horseman,..."
20120113 22:52:06< zookeeper> or equals, whatever
20120113 22:52:37< zookeeper> i don't see why that wouldn't work perfectly fine for 1.10, assuming the order indeed cannot change
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20120113 22:59:57< Gambit> Sad that a [have_side] was not created to go along with the sexy new standard side filters.
20120113 23:00:31< zookeeper> Espreon, snitch :>
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20120113 23:01:36< anonymissimus> Gambit: "[22:07]	<Gambit>	anonymissimus: I could do [lua] code = {~/add-ons/foo/bar.lua} yes?" if that file contains the <<>> yes
20120113 23:01:55< Gambit> anonymissimus: AH! Thank you!
20120113 23:02:20< Gambit> I tried it and it was evaluating it as WML
20120113 23:02:39< anonymissimus> Gambit: for SoW I have a script which generates files which have the <<>> out of pure lua files
20120113 23:03:37< anonymissimus> have_side ? that would be what ?
20120113 23:03:46< Gambit> For conditions
20120113 23:03:55< Gambit> If a side exists matching a SSF
20120113 23:04:06< anonymissimus> it would give true if a certain side exists ?
20120113 23:04:09< Gambit> Yes
20120113 23:04:10< anonymissimus> a yes
20120113 23:04:15< Gambit> Like have_unit and have_location
20120113 23:04:23< anonymissimus> sounds like an easy to do very useful feature
20120113 23:04:51< anonymissimus> perhaps you want to submit a patch for it so it can get added in 1.11
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20120113 23:25:03< anonymissimus> zookeeper: seems the order changes
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20120113 23:30:53< anonymissimus> at least it changes in comparison to the order it is given in [multipalyer_side]
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