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20120115 00:09:12< Ivanovic> is it just me or are all those lovely fixes really missing from the changelog?
20120115 00:12:45< CIA-91> ivanovic * r52596 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): updated Galician translation
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20120115 00:20:01< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: is there an about.cfg entry for r52582 ?
20120115 00:20:05< Ivanovic> wesbot: r52582
20120115 00:20:11< Ivanovic> wesbot: log r52582
20120115 00:20:12< wesbot> anonymissimus * r52582 : fix missing {IS_LOYAL}s (patch by kernigh, bug #19281)
20120115 00:20:15< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=52582
20120115 00:20:40< Ivanovic> wesbot: bug 19281
20120115 00:20:40< wesbot> Bug #19281  Assigned to: Anonymissimus <anonymissimus>  Status: Fixed  Priority: 5 - Normal
20120115 00:20:43< wesbot> Summary: problems with loyal units of Hornshark Island
20120115 00:20:46< wesbot> Original submission: About 2p - Hornshark Island, forum user Nobun wrote at ht
20120115 00:20:49< wesbot> tp://r.wesnoth.org/t35870 , 'This is so true mainly if you try to load map with 
20120115 00:20:52< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?19281
20120115 00:20:54< wesbot> Attached file (1st): https://gna.org/bugs/download.php?file_id=14789
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20120115 00:27:10< CIA-91> ivanovic * r52597 /trunk/changelog: add all changes since 1.9.14 to the changelog (at least those that I found)
20120115 00:27:29< Ivanovic> everybody: feel free to move/change the entries in the changelog to make sure that they are actually correct
20120115 00:27:32< CIA-91> alarantalara * r52598 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): update changelog - sorry Ivanovic
20120115 00:27:39< Ivanovic> but you know, having them makes a *lot* of sense...
20120115 00:29:51< CIA-91> alarantalara * r52599 /trunk/changelog: fix edit conflict with changlog not caught by SVN
20120115 00:30:26< Alarantalara> yeah, I walked out the door then realized I forgot to update it
20120115 00:31:32< anonymissimus> the changelog is the subject of obsession of a certain style nazi
20120115 00:31:36< CIA-91> ivanovic * r52600 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): resort stuff and make sure that the style is kept in sync with the rest of the files
20120115 00:31:54< anonymissimus> so I am scared to edit it
20120115 00:32:07< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: it is hard to argue with users that it makes sense to update if everything listed there is just "updated X translations"
20120115 00:32:33< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: the style is dead easy: 80 chars per line and for the rest look at older areas (like eg how many lines to leave empty and stuff like this)
20120115 00:32:40< Espreon> anonymissimus: Indeed.
20120115 00:32:52< Espreon> ... Ivanovic speakth the truth.
20120115 00:33:46< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: that is the style can easily be fixed/changed later on, missing entries are just that, missing
20120115 00:34:03< anonymissimus> you are not the style nazi btw
20120115 00:34:12< Ivanovic> oh, i can be if i want to
20120115 00:34:13< Ivanovic> ;)
20120115 00:34:21< anonymissimus> but you are not
20120115 00:34:27< Ivanovic> though i tend to just fix stuff and leave something in the log message pointing out what was wrong
20120115 00:35:42< Ivanovic> uhm, are there actually patterns for the keep placement on random maps? http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=35887
20120115 00:36:37< CIA-91> alarantalara * r52601 /trunk/changelog: reword swamp image fixes
20120115 00:37:58< CIA-91> ivanovic * r52602 /trunk/changelog: typo fix
20120115 00:38:50< Ivanovic> hmm, i think now time has come again for me to check if my pillow wants to tell me some secret messages
20120115 00:38:52< Ivanovic> n8
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20120115 00:50:24< anonymissimus> Ivanovic: it would've been enough to remind me
20120115 00:51:01< anonymissimus> now I'm pissed off by useless conflicts which the changelog loves tho cause all the time :<
20120115 00:56:43< CIA-91> anonymissimus * r52603 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): changelog update/fix
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20120115 01:05:14< janebot> Wesnoth Forums | Developers’ Discussions • Re: [STATUS] Forum/MP server login changes for Wesnoth 1.10 by xtifr [ 01-14-2012 23:58 ] [ http://r.wesnoth.org/p518568 ]
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20120115 04:27:55< CIA-91> espreon * r52604 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth-help/fi.po wesnoth-lib/fi.po wesnoth-manual/fi.po): Updated the Finnish translation.
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20120115 07:24:30< CIA-91> fendrin * r52605 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/chapter1/03_Kalian_under_Attack.cfg: 
20120115 07:24:32< CIA-91> LoW 03:
20120115 07:24:32< CIA-91> Gave the controll over Galtrid to the player, even after Kalenz has arrived.
20120115 07:24:32< CIA-91> This fixes bug #19067.
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20120115 07:41:01< CIA-91> fendrin * r52606 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/chapter2/04_The_Elvish_Treasury.cfg: 
20120115 07:41:01< CIA-91> LoW 04:
20120115 07:41:01< CIA-91> Only some code cleanups.
20120115 07:41:01< CIA-91> Mostly removed commented out code.
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20120115 08:42:19< vultraz> what's CLRF?
20120115 08:42:29< vultraz> CRLF*
20120115 08:42:35< vultraz> " * Fixed wmlindent writing CRLF end of lines on windows"
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20120115 09:30:56< Espreon> vultraz: Carriage return + line feed.
20120115 09:31:19< Espreon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRLF
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20120115 11:04:38< Ivanovic> fendrin: please make sure to add changelog entries for your two commits
20120115 11:07:32< zookeeper> oops, looks like i forgot to changelog the SoF portraits...
20120115 11:07:33 * zookeeper adds
20120115 11:11:33< CIA-91> ivanovic * r52607 /website/start/1.10/ (13 files in 2 dirs): updated Korean announcement translation
20120115 11:11:47< CIA-91> zookeeper * r52608 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): Updated changelogs.
20120115 11:12:19< Ivanovic> zookeeper: uhm, was this change not *before* 1.9.14?
20120115 11:12:33< Ivanovic> meaning: not part of 1.9.14+svn
20120115 11:12:51< zookeeper> let me check...
20120115 11:13:42< zookeeper> right, yeah, it was before
20120115 11:13:44 * zookeeper facepalms
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20120115 11:14:56< fendrin> Ivanovic: What is your opinion about https://gna.org/bugs/?18868 ?
20120115 11:15:10< zookeeper> i guess i should simply revert instead of adding them to the 1.9.14 section?
20120115 11:15:14< fendrin> Ivanovic: Is it a blocker?
20120115 11:15:16< zookeeper> s/adding/moving
20120115 11:15:44< CIA-91> caslav_ilic * r52609 /trunk/ (38 files in 10 dirs): Updated translations for Serbian.
20120115 11:17:31< Ivanovic> zookeeper: since 1.9.14 is old now: does not matter too much, though having the stuff in as reference later on makes sense, too
20120115 11:17:35< Ivanovic> fendrin: not sure at all
20120115 11:18:24< Ivanovic> fendrin: sounds more like a libsdl issue to me, not sure though
20120115 11:19:55< fendrin> Ivanovic: I am going to postpone it. We can think about fixing it for 1.10.1. Maybe it's risky to address it right now. The thing is not trivial.
20120115 11:19:58< zookeeper> Ivanovic, right, so i'll move it?
20120115 11:20:17< Ivanovic> zookeeper: sounds good to me
20120115 11:21:13< fendrin> Ivanovic: Are you going to release another RC today?
20120115 11:21:19< Ivanovic> no
20120115 11:21:23< fendrin> oh
20120115 11:24:14< CIA-91> zookeeper * r52610 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): Moved the SoF campaign entries under 1.9.14 retroactively.
20120115 11:28:29< Ivanovic> fendrin: currently i am waiting to hear an updated estimate regarding when the southpark fixes might be in
20120115 11:29:07< Ivanovic> though the initial plan was to give rc1 at least two weeks anyway
20120115 11:29:38< Ivanovic> if 1) the whiteboard stuff gets addressed and 2) no other huge blockers pop up i planned on tagging 1.10 2 weeks after tagging rc1
20120115 11:30:56< Ivanovic> so far there seem to not have been too many big issues with rc1 which would be the reason for an rc2
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20120115 11:35:09< fendrin> zookeeper: I think a commandline option to load a savefile relative to the working directory and not to the save dir would be nice. I hate the need to copy tester provided savegames to the directory and search for it. What do you think?
20120115 11:36:05< Ivanovic> fendrin: sounds like a post 1.10 change to me
20120115 11:36:05< fendrin> Ivanovic: We have a new soutpark campaign? :-P
20120115 11:36:11< fendrin> Ivanovic: sure
20120115 11:36:25< Ivanovic> huh? southpark campaign?
20120115 11:36:37< Ivanovic> fendrin: please add your low changes to the changelog
20120115 11:36:56< fendrin> Ivanovic: you wrote "southpark", guess you meant southguard. Yes, I have read your advice.
20120115 11:37:28< Ivanovic> okay, i am not awake enough yet...
20120115 11:37:31< fendrin> :-)
20120115 11:37:33< Ivanovic> i meant the whiteboard fixes
20120115 11:37:45< fendrin> ah
20120115 11:37:54 * Ivanovic needs some strong tee ASAP!
20120115 11:38:02< fendrin> tea
20120115 11:39:35< loonycyborg> fendrin: Maybe just make the -l option support absolute paths too?
20120115 11:41:48< fendrin> loonycyborg: hmmm. I would like to load absolute and relative paths savefiles that are not in my savedir.
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20120115 11:42:30< loonycyborg> You can just do '-l ./somefile.gz' to load from working dir
20120115 11:42:34< loonycyborg> *could
20120115 11:43:16< fendrin> The shell does expand that to an absolute path?
20120115 11:44:49< loonycyborg> Actually, no. I just got myself confused.
20120115 11:44:57< fendrin> That would need some more complicate parsing. The current implementation does support subdirectories of the savedir. That feature must survive the change.
20120115 11:46:29< loonycyborg> To make the shell do that you'd need to do -l `pwd`/somefile.gz
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20120115 12:06:01< Ivanovic> has anyone heard what is up with mordante?
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20120115 12:06:15< Ivanovic> not having heard from him for a month feels strange...
20120115 12:06:16< vultraz> nope
20120115 12:06:22< vultraz> haven't...
20120115 12:08:43< vultraz> Ivanovic: what's this mean? http://pastebin.com/iq4T1krW
20120115 12:08:59< Ivanovic> no idea
20120115 12:09:21< vultraz> :S
20120115 12:15:17< fendrin> wesbot: seen mordante?
20120115 12:15:17< wesbot> fendrin: The person with the nick mordante last spoke 28d ago.  28d ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth-de with the message: Quit: Leaving
20120115 12:15:53< fendrin> Ivanovic: But he is joining us at the FOSDEM, isn't he?
20120115 12:16:15< Ivanovic> fendrin: he added himself on 17th december to the list of participants
20120115 12:16:36< fendrin> Okay
20120115 12:17:22< loonycyborg> vultraz: That really looks like something related to mac-specific apis.
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20120115 12:19:21< vultraz> loonycyborg: humm
20120115 12:19:24< vultraz> maybe
20120115 12:19:54< loonycyborg> At least iirc CG is prefix of cocoa calls or something.
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20120115 12:45:14< zookeeper> fendrin, i've never used any such commandline options, so no opinion.
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20120115 16:40:38< anonymissimus> fendrin: regarding the keyboard problems...
20120115 16:41:21< anonymissimus> I got the impression that every fix attempt would make matters worse; a main reason being that we have too few (1) Mac coder
20120115 16:42:21< anonymissimus> since the keyboard events behave differently with respect to OS and keymap, so theres too much test cases
20120115 16:43:24< vultraz> anonymissimus: http://pastebin.com/iq4T1krW any idea what that means?
20120115 16:43:36< vultraz> or is it mac-specific like loonycyborg suggested
20120115 16:44:47< anonymissimus> you should at least say what action gets you that errors...
20120115 16:44:58< anonymissimus> these
20120115 16:45:09< Alarantalara> vultraz: they're definitely OS X specific functions displaying the errors
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20120115 16:45:25< anonymissimus> but I have no idea
20120115 16:45:41< Alarantalara> CG = Core Graphics
20120115 16:46:11< Alarantalara> call it yet another SDL bug
20120115 16:46:38< Alarantalara> at least if something similar doesn't appear on other platforms
20120115 16:48:23< Alarantalara> though those particular functions are not used in libsdl proper
20120115 16:49:54< anonymissimus> Espreon: when you reproduced bug http://gna.org/bugs/?17244 it was on your Linux system ? so that it isn't OS specific; please update the OS info in the report then
20120115 16:50:34< anonymissimus> always much easier to fix something which doesn't depend on platform
20120115 16:52:33< vultraz> anonymissimus: they appear at launch
20120115 16:52:50< vultraz> and only since I upgraded my os to 10.6.8
20120115 16:55:15< Alarantalara> I found the functions finally, they're in the cairo library
20120115 16:56:16< vultraz> also, I'm not sure if this is a bug, but wmllint spits a lot of stuff like: http://pastebin.com/af8sr3ua
20120115 16:56:22< vultraz> err....ignore line 1
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20120115 16:58:07< anonymissimus> vultraz: I suggest asking shadowmaster, I think he doesnt get that messages
20120115 16:58:38< anonymissimus> vultraz: do you pass the path to core as a first argument ?
20120115 16:59:08< anonymissimus> wmllint doesnt seem to know core unit types there
20120115 16:59:41< vultraz> humm
20120115 17:00:11< vultraz> I didn't...
20120115 17:00:42< vultraz> Macintosh:tools me$ ./wmllint /Users/me/Library/Application\ Support/Wesnoth_1.9/data/add-ons/After_the_Storm/
20120115 17:01:55< vultraz> from Contents/Resources/data/tools
20120115 17:05:16< vultraz> anonymissimus: did I do it wrong?
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20120115 17:07:17< Alarantalara> vultraz: try ./wmllint ../core/ ~/Library/Application\ Support/Wesnoth_1.9/data/add-ons/After_the_Storm/
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20120115 17:10:10< Alarantalara> vultraz: Judging from the only place in cairo where that series of calls appears, it seems there is an error somewhere in font initialization
20120115 17:10:33< vultraz> Alarantalara: ok wmllint works fine now
20120115 17:10:41< vultraz> and...is that a bug?
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20120115 17:19:52< Alarantalara> I don't know. There are some strange things happening with fonts on OS X, and I've yet to successfully build pango, cairo and friends to find out what's happening
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20120115 17:21:48< Alarantalara> or more accurately, I've built them for myself, but that's useless for packaging
20120115 17:22:47< vultraz> Alarantalara: I can't seem to get cairo compiled so I can compile pango and get pangocairo so I can compile wesnoth 
20120115 17:23:08< vultraz> :P
20120115 17:23:53< Alarantalara> Yes, cairo depends on gtk if I remember correctly, so you have to build that too
20120115 17:24:22< Alarantalara> even though it's completely unused on OS X
20120115 17:24:32< Alarantalara> for Wesnoth, anyway
20120115 17:27:59< Alarantalara> (this is of course as far as I can tell - cairo builds for both CoreGraphics and X11 and I don't think CoreGraphics needs any of the gtk stuff)
20120115 17:29:15< vultraz> so.....um.....
20120115 17:29:17< vultraz> what do I do
20120115 17:29:24< vultraz> to get it compiled.....
20120115 17:29:27< Alarantalara> go insane
20120115 17:30:03< vultraz> rofl
20120115 17:32:52< Alarantalara> I'm somewhat serious in that statement: one of the build instructions I cam across for building some part of it was "create a new user account and build there"
20120115 17:33:43< vultraz> *rolls eyes*
20120115 17:33:53< anonymissimus> can't you provide some package of libraries ?
20120115 17:34:21< Alarantalara> crimson_penguin did once some time ago
20120115 17:34:23< anonymissimus> or does POSIX building not allow this
20120115 17:34:43< Alarantalara> as far as I can tell, he never updated it
20120115 17:34:59 * anonymissimus is confused about dependencies spread over the system
20120115 17:35:21< Alarantalara> yes, lots of dependencies, none of which are installed by default
20120115 17:36:02< Alarantalara> and for packing purposes, I need to find something in the build script to allow cross compiling
20120115 17:36:07< Alarantalara> *packaging
20120115 17:36:29< vultraz> there should be a dmg that installs everything you need to compile wesnoth...
20120115 17:36:35< anonymissimus> building on a POSIX system simply just sucks xD
20120115 17:37:04< vultraz> with an option to download the source code at the end 
20120115 17:37:19< vultraz> and which then runs cmake or scons
20120115 17:38:45< Alarantalara> Some of that is here (but out of date) http://sourceforge.net/projects/wesnoth/files/unofficial/Mac%20Compile%20Stuff/
20120115 17:39:11< Alarantalara> I should probably update it (new boost, sdl libraries)
20120115 17:39:54< vultraz> yeah I got that....but it was no use
20120115 17:46:35< Alarantalara> If you're trying to build using scons then the easiest way is to install fink or macports and have it build all the libraries for you
20120115 17:46:55< Alarantalara> the compile stuff is for building with Xcode
20120115 17:48:16< vultraz> I have fink.....
20120115 17:48:36< vultraz> but for some reason I can't run it in my account
20120115 17:49:22< Alarantalara> It's an installer, you need to use sudo
20120115 17:50:27< vultraz> no, it gives me fink: command not found
20120115 17:51:00< Alarantalara> ah, then you need to add fink's location to your path
20120115 17:51:19< Alarantalara> do you know where you installed it?
20120115 17:52:01< vultraz> um....I just used the dmg in the admin account
20120115 17:52:29< Alarantalara> check the file ~/.bashrc and see if /sw is added to PATH there
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20120115 17:53:25< Alarantalara> or cd to /sw and see if ./fink finds it first
20120115 17:54:11< Alarantalara> but basically, you need to find a line that looks like "source /sw/bin/init.csh"
20120115 17:54:28< Alarantalara> in .bashrc or .cshrc or whatever shell you use rc
20120115 17:56:17< vultraz> um..... there's a fink in /sw
20120115 17:56:36< vultraz> fink folder*
20120115 17:57:20< Alarantalara> what shell does the Terminal window say you're using?
20120115 17:57:45< vultraz> bash
20120115 17:58:01< vultraz> but I can't find a .bashrc file
20120115 17:58:09< vultraz> only .bash_history
20120115 17:58:16< Alarantalara> then you need to create one
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20120115 17:58:39< vultraz> ahhhh
20120115 17:58:55< Alarantalara> pick your favourite text editor, create a file that has "source /sw/bin/init.csh" in it
20120115 17:59:02< Alarantalara> and save it in your home directory
20120115 17:59:18< vultraz> as .bashrc
20120115 17:59:24< Alarantalara> yes
20120115 17:59:56< Alarantalara> or just type that source line before you use fink
20120115 18:01:32< Alarantalara> adding it to .bashrc just does it automatically every time you start a new bash shell
20120115 18:02:10< vultraz> agh.....still says command not found
20120115 18:02:43< Alarantalara> open a new Terminal
20120115 18:02:49< Alarantalara> and try there
20120115 18:03:34< vultraz> doesn't work....
20120115 18:25:13< janebot> Wesnoth Forums | Developers’ Discussions • Re: [STATUS] Forum/MP server login changes for Wesnoth 1.10 by pauxlo [ 01-15-2012 17:21 ] [ http://r.wesnoth.org/p518632 ]
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20120115 19:02:47< crimson_penguin> vultraz, Alarantalara: use ~/.profile instead
20120115 19:03:08< crimson_penguin> (I recently switched to zsh myself though, which uses .zshrc)
20120115 19:03:45< crimson_penguin> Alarantalara: there's a reason I never updated those libraries - it was a nightmare the first time! also, if I do update them, we're dropping PPC support; I can't really compile for PPC anymore
20120115 19:05:13< Alarantalara> crimson_penguin: I could tell. I kept running into questions you posted to mailing lists trying to get it to compile
20120115 19:05:22< crimson_penguin> hahaha
20120115 19:05:27< Sapient> lol
20120115 19:06:22< crimson_penguin> also, once I tried to update pango, to get something to work better... and everything was worse, so I gave up
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20120115 19:31:09< Alarantalara> Can I get people to comment on this? http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=35853&start=30#p518614
20120115 19:31:41< Alarantalara> Especially if you're colour-blind. I've run it through a testing tool to give me an idea of what it looks like, but it's no substitute for real people
20120115 19:35:07< Crendgrim> Alarantalara: which of those are deep?
20120115 19:35:34< vultraz> Alarantalara: teh grey is TOO grey
20120115 19:35:44< vultraz> the*
20120115 19:36:01< Alarantalara> it alternates shallow and deep
20120115 19:37:20< Alarantalara> apart from the bottom left image, all the shallows and all the deeps are about the same for luminance
20120115 19:37:21< vultraz> I think the current grey is grey enough
20120115 19:39:07< Alarantalara> vultraz: which one are you talking about?
20120115 19:39:13< zookeeper> the only really important thing is that same-colour shallow/deep are easily distinquishable. mapmakers should then make sure that they don't mix several variants in the same puddle (if it makes them hard to distinquish).
20120115 19:39:40< vultraz> Alarantalara: second from left
20120115 19:40:04< vultraz> top image is better, bottom is too dark IMO
20120115 19:41:25< Alarantalara> zookeeper: exactly. This is to try and make them easier to tell apart from and in fog
20120115 19:42:49< Alarantalara> Madlok brought it up with this image: http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/9418/20120112133414001.jpg
20120115 19:43:48< Alarantalara> it quite a bit harder when the edges aren't straight
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20120115 20:21:28< Soliton> anonymissimus: afaiac the khalifate are not destined for default but default+khalifate or some such. not sure what the rest of your question means.
20120115 20:31:52< anonymissimus> Soliton: with respect to bug #19281, I suggested to Doc Paterson to create a set of units to appear in case the the faction is Khalifate
20120115 20:32:48< Soliton> alink, Alarantalara: completing your own nick is usually not useful. if it is now though that could easily be changed.
20120115 20:33:31< anonymissimus> thats what the rest of my question referred to
20120115 20:33:50< Soliton> ok.
20120115 20:33:56< Soliton> that's fine.
20120115 20:34:25< anonymissimus> which is now also used in case of any other faction not in the default era
20120115 20:36:34< anonymissimus> wesbot: topic
20120115 20:36:35< wesbot> anonymissimus: Don't be impatient, wait until something changes...  *tsk*
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20120115 21:49:08< CIA-91> anonymissimus * r52612 /trunk/data/campaigns/tutorial/units/ (Fighter.cfg Fighteress.cfg Quintain.cfg): Fix tutorial units without xp bar. (bug #19279)
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20120115 21:51:52< anonymissimus> Ivanovic: if a commit is way too negligible I don't mention it in the changelog such as this revision
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20120115 21:55:42< anonymissimus> Gambit: if you can get some more people to join I would come
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20120115 21:55:54< anonymissimus> that is I dont want 1 vs 1
20120115 21:56:02< anonymissimus> 3 or 4
20120115 21:56:26< Gambit> enchilado, vultraz: ^
20120115 21:56:27< Gambit> ?
20120115 21:57:02< Gambit> (Or anyone with 1.9.13+)
20120115 21:57:22< Gambit> (Who doesn't afraid of new things)
20120115 21:57:26< anonymissimus> well it seems the number of people on the dev server increases slowly, very slowly...but it does
20120115 21:57:57< anonymissimus> well no, I find addons such as your should be supported
20120115 21:58:28< anonymissimus> they modify wesnoth away from the attacking+unit moving game, and they really exploit the spirit of wesnoth: extensibility
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20120115 22:04:24< Gambit> Wesnoth is an engine really. It's sad that all the content that ships with it is of one flavor (ANL aside)
20120115 22:05:03< Gambit> But the add-on server is the greatest thing ever.
20120115 22:05:09< Gambit> More games need something like that.
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20120115 22:07:20< Crendgrim> oh yes.
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20120115 22:13:00< anonymissimus> in fact, I know quite some games, but nothing comes even close
20120115 22:13:35< anonymissimus> wesnoth can be everything from a board game to a RPG
20120115 22:15:24< anonymissimus> wesbot: topic
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20120115 22:19:30< anonymissimus> Gambit: alaskan is on the server, now we can try perhaps
20120115 22:20:04< vultraz> Gambit: still compiling....
20120115 22:20:11< Gambit> vultraz: o_o
20120115 22:20:34< vultraz> I had to update Xcode
20120115 22:20:34< Gambit> That's a very sad computer
20120115 22:20:37< Gambit> Ah
20120115 22:20:54< anonymissimus> vultraz: would be great if you can manage it
20120115 22:21:04< anonymissimus> we need mac coders you know
20120115 22:22:49< vultraz> :)
20120115 22:22:55< vultraz> seems to be working..
20120115 22:23:25< Alarantalara> Now we just need Mac specific bugs that aren't in external libraries
20120115 22:23:51< Gambit> TemptingFate
20120115 22:24:00< Gambit> We don't need any bugs this close to a release :P
20120115 22:24:08< anonymissimus> are all of those upstream problems ?
20120115 22:24:21< anonymissimus> there are soooo many mac bugs in the tracker
20120115 22:24:46< Gambit> Yeah apparently Apple hates the idea of backwards compatibility
20120115 22:25:08< vultraz> 62/405
20120115 22:25:14< janebot> Wesnoth Forums | Developers’ Discussions • Re: [STATUS] Forum/MP server login changes for Wesnoth 1.10 by xtifr [ 01-15-2012 21:19 ] [ http://r.wesnoth.org/p518648 ]
20120115 22:25:14< Gambit> Aren't most of the bugs Lion + SDL issues?
20120115 22:25:16< anonymissimus> it might be that the devs of the stuff wesnoth depends on feature the same problems like wesnoth though
20120115 22:25:28< Alarantalara> Gambit: or pango/font issues
20120115 22:25:42< anonymissimus> that is, they dev their stuff on Linux and it doesnt work quite right on the other platforms
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20120115 22:26:32< Alarantalara> one could be a bug in the OpenMP library, or it might just be a race condition that's only exposed on OS X
20120115 22:27:16< Alarantalara> some I can't reproduce since I don't have a machine that has two graphics cards that switch off control
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20120115 22:28:03< Alarantalara> And this one is so vague it might already be fixed https://gna.org/bugs/?18320
20120115 22:28:21< Alarantalara> but I don't have Lion
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20120115 22:29:33< anonymissimus> about bug #18320
20120115 22:29:51< anonymissimus> there were also reports about frequent crashes in MP on windows
20120115 22:30:02< vultraz> Alarantalara: we're downloading it now...will be done in a day or two
20120115 22:30:15< anonymissimus> I atm have the suspicion that its the crap called ageless era etc reponsible for it
20120115 22:30:41< anonymissimus> so its not neccessarily a mac issue
20120115 22:31:29< Alarantalara> The crash logs are in OpenMP code which I've disabled, but it's not on for 1.8, and I don't have a log for it
20120115 22:31:34< anonymissimus> I would ask those reporters whether they 1) have ageless era and/or lots of (MP) addons installed and whether 2) singleplayer crashes similar
20120115 22:31:57< Alarantalara> so it's possible that they're reporting one crash and giving me diagnostics for one that's fixed
20120115 22:32:54< Gambit> Ugh ageless era
20120115 22:33:15< vultraz> ageless is nice
20120115 22:33:25< Gambit> A project with good intentions.
20120115 22:33:40< vultraz> yup
20120115 22:34:16< Gambit> But it needs to stop being released when it doesn't even load properly due to WML errors
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20120115 22:35:17< anonymissimus> if memory problems are involved, the backtraces do perhaps not tell about the actual cause of a problem
20120115 22:35:26< Gambit> He should come up with a unified system that doesn't interfere with mainline or other add-on and begin recoding units to fit into that.
20120115 22:35:30< anonymissimus> does valgrind work on mac btw ?
20120115 22:35:41< Gambit> Instead of cobbling all those eras together with duct tape.
20120115 22:35:46< anonymissimus> or does xcode have a debugger similar to MSVC ?
20120115 22:36:22< Alarantalara> I've gdb, and a large suite of memory tools provided by Apple
20120115 22:37:38< Alarantalara> I also have valgrind, but it produced interesting error messages and crashed, so I'm not sure if all of it works
20120115 22:38:20< Alarantalara> I was trying to run one of the alternate options of valgrind at the time, so some parts may work
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20120115 22:39:17< anonymissimus> Gambit: make a game ?
20120115 22:39:33< Gambit> Are we waiting for vultraz?
20120115 22:39:55< vultraz> 110/405
20120115 22:40:07< Gambit> vultraz: What are those numbers?
20120115 22:40:15< Alarantalara> file compiled out of total
20120115 22:40:24< Gambit> Oh neat.
20120115 22:40:28< vultraz> yeah
20120115 22:40:46< anonymissimus> "This port is UNSUPPORTED and INCOMPLETE and BUGGY. It may not find bugs in your program, or run your program correctly, or run your program at all. " ;)
20120115 22:41:23< vultraz> XD
20120115 22:41:48< Alarantalara> that sounds about right
20120115 22:42:09< Gambit> I don't get an ETA on compiling completion. I just watch the filenames as they zoom pass and know they're done in roughly alphabetical order. :(
20120115 22:43:56< vultraz> lol
20120115 22:44:09< vultraz> I see yours zoom past
20120115 22:44:21< vultraz> this Xcode list ain't zooming
20120115 22:44:26< Alarantalara> hey, should we mention Xgrid?
20120115 22:45:32< Alarantalara> aka: vultraz, do you have another computer?
20120115 22:46:46< vultraz> yes, but It's windows 7
20120115 22:47:18< Alarantalara> oh well, no compiler farm for you
20120115 22:47:45< ancestral> Haha
20120115 22:48:55< vultraz> WOW!!!! Both my CPU cores are running at MAX
20120115 22:49:09< Gambit> Uh... duh?
20120115 22:49:19< anonymissimus> vultraz: if you just want a build environment for wesnoth then building on win will be easier probably
20120115 22:49:33< anonymissimus> i have successful reports from at least 2 people with win 7
20120115 22:49:50< Gambit> If you're going for "Simplest building of Wesnoth" you can't really beat Ubuntu's like... 6 commands
20120115 22:49:52< enchilado> Gambit: have you started yet?
20120115 22:49:55< Gambit> enchilado: No
20120115 22:50:01< Gambit> :)
20120115 22:50:03< enchilado> Shall I join?
20120115 22:50:07< Gambit> Yes please!
20120115 22:50:09< ancestral> Building isn't designed to be quick
20120115 22:50:15< ancestral> It's designed to be right
20120115 22:50:20< anonymissimus> on ubuntu it is
20120115 22:50:23< enchilado> I've been playing the Binding of Isaac.
20120115 22:50:24< enchilado> Man...
20120115 22:50:36< Gambit> Love that game's DeadBabyComedy
20120115 22:50:43< anonymissimus> something apt-get build-dep, same for libboost-all-dev, and then scons
20120115 22:50:44< vultraz> anonymissimus: well the computer in question is a 5 year old laptop with a Celeron M
20120115 22:50:54< enchilado> I got a neat cat that revived me every time I died
20120115 22:50:57< enchilado> I was invincible
20120115 22:51:02< enchilado> except then it didn't work
20120115 22:51:07< Gambit> But only one heart isn't it?
20120115 22:51:16< enchilado> Yeah
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20120115 23:00:09< vultraz> 190/405
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20120115 23:05:22< fendrin> anonymissimus: I very much agree with you on the keyboard layout bug issue.
20120115 23:06:11< vultraz> 213/405
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20120115 23:10:25< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: a bug with an entry in the tracker should always be listed in the changelog
20120115 23:10:33< Ivanovic> even if the fix is just a one letter change
20120115 23:10:37< vultraz> anonymissimus: if a change is made to the source I have to recompile, right?
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20120115 23:32:39< vultraz> oh crap....
20120115 23:32:43< vultraz> ERROR!!!!
20120115 23:45:39< ancestral> vultraz: Figure it out yet?
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