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20120127 00:03:26< anonymissimus> noy: btw are the Khalifate supposed to enter the default era at some spot ? I guess it is only default+Khalifate until they are balanced enough ?
20120127 00:04:58< noy> yes
20120127 00:04:59< noy> the latter
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20120127 06:49:48-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: tagged 1.10.0, announcing on January 29th | HARD string and feature-freeze active for trunk and the 1.10 announcment | 151 bugs, 335 feature requests, 18 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20120127 08:58:52< timotei> Crab_: Ok. So no CI from Windows Azure Yet.
20120127 08:59:09< timotei> The VM(Virtual Machine) Role can't be access by remote access means till it's in beta :(
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20120127 09:47:52< shadowm> I have just realized it's not just the scaling algorithm sucking for portrait art. It sucks for the titlescreen too.
20120127 09:47:56< shadowm> http://shadowm.ai0867.net/wesnothd-prompt.png
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20120127 09:50:17< shadowm> all scaling algorithms used by the GIMP do a far better job, except "None", of course
20120127 09:50:20< shadowm> mordante:
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20120127 09:58:32< shadowm> posted in #17961 anyway
20120127 09:59:17< shadowm> I can imagine kitty would not be pleased at all. *whistles idly*
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20120127 11:07:00< Ivanovic> moin
20120127 11:11:47< vultraz> hey
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20120127 11:28:56< noy> fendrin: I'm failing to see why your system is "better"
20120127 11:29:03< noy> your proposed system
20120127 11:29:09< noy> its different, which is a problem. 
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20120127 12:59:59< Ivanovic> wow, Crabs underscore list is getting longer every day...
20120127 13:03:35< vultraz> lol
20120127 13:03:43< vultraz> why does he use them anyway
20120127 13:03:51< vultraz> what's wrong with 'Crab'
20120127 13:06:15< Ivanovic> vultraz: check nickserv for available names
20120127 13:06:29< Ivanovic> might be that Crab is registered to someone else, so he went with Crab_
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20120127 13:14:49< enchilado_______> v_v
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20120127 13:39:02< vultraz> enchilado_______: RROOFFFLL XD
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20120127 20:03:17< mordante> servus
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20120127 20:12:57< mordante> shadowm, I used the standard scaling routine in Wesnoth, feel free to implement a better one
20120127 20:13:34< shadowm> Sorry, but I don't really understand how these things work, and there must be a reason it isn't broken in 1.8.
20120127 20:14:05< shadowm> You are the GUI framework guru, not I.
20120127 20:14:34< mordante> true, but as I said I use the scaling routines of Wesnoth
20120127 20:14:47< shadowm> So why do they work *better* in 1.8?
20120127 20:14:59< mordante> and it might be somebody made changes to that algorithm
20120127 20:16:29< shadowm> It would seem that was silene and you.
20120127 20:17:56< shadowm> r48862, r47980, r47977, r47967 (purportedly reverted by you in r48862)
20120127 20:19:06< shadowm> according to the commit message in r33378, the previous (non-GUI2) titlescreen used a different algorithm
20120127 20:19:33< shadowm> r47296 (silene) removed the algorithm claiming it was unused
20120127 20:20:29< shadowm> unfortunately, I don't know the theory behind this to be able to tell whether there were practical differences in the output by just looking at the source
20120127 20:20:55< shadowm> as I understand things, though, you are basically giving up ownership of #17961 ?
20120127 20:23:13< mordante> no I didn't say that, but I see the things you just mentioned are not the same bug
20120127 20:23:38< mordante> the bug mentioned is the algorithm determining the size of the portrait
20120127 20:23:52< mordante> not how the scaled portrait is rendered
20120127 20:24:05< shadowm> I believe I have seen the same jaggedness in scaled-down portraits too before.
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20120127 20:24:57< shadowm> like, right now
20120127 20:25:37< shadowm> http://shadowm.rewound.net/f/portrait-scaling.jpg
20120127 20:26:03< anonymissimus> wesbot: log 48862
20120127 20:26:04< wesbot> mordante * r48862 : Fixed the problem with black lines in the minimap.Crendgrim pointed me at the issue [1], which was caused by r47967. [2] showsthe visual difference of r47967 in more detail. This commit reverts r47967.[1] http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=481758#p481758[2] http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=481831#p481831
20120127 20:26:09< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=48862
20120127 20:26:33< shadowm> and the OP says "the scaling method degrades the images"
20120127 20:26:34< mordante> yeah that was the problem with silene's algorithm changes
20120127 20:26:48< mordante> it looked horrible for the tiles
20120127 20:26:54< shadowm> that is, quality reduction
20120127 20:27:10< mordante> with portraits I didn't see much difference
20120127 20:28:15< shadowm> I remember the minimap and I don't really agree that there was a problem to begin with.
20120127 20:29:03< anonymissimus> wesbot: bug #17961
20120127 20:29:04< wesbot> Bug #17961  Assigned to: Mark de Wever <mordante>  Status: Postponed  Priority: 5 - Normal
20120127 20:29:07< wesbot> Summary: portaits scaled badly in dialogue
20120127 20:29:09< wesbot> Original submission: Starting in 1.9.3, the portraits got scaled down severely
20120127 20:29:13< wesbot> , at least for some screen sizes.  In 1.9.5, the scaling method degrades the ima
20120127 20:29:15< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?17961
20120127 20:29:18< wesbot> Attached file (1st): https://gna.org/bugs/download.php?file_id=14842
20120127 20:29:28< shadowm> both with the current, and the previous (1.8) algorithms, certain map formations tend to create annoying moiré patterns
20120127 20:29:29< mordante> shadowm, you saw this image http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=481758#p481758
20120127 20:30:12< shadowm> right
20120127 20:30:38< shadowm> that looks more like a map preview than the minimap for me
20120127 20:30:56< mordante> shadowm, seems indeed alink added a new function, but it never found its way in gui2, the title_screen dialog already existed
20120127 20:31:16< mordante> shadowm, do you think we should allow that algorithm again?
20120127 20:31:47< shadowm> only once I can determine whether it really changes the output
20120127 20:32:07< Crendgrim> shadowm: well, IIRC the screenshots were of the map shown in the top-right corner ingame
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20120127 20:32:32< shadowm> I assume there's no way to specify which algorithm will be used in the C++ for the title screen dialog?
20120127 20:33:22< shadowm> Crendgrim: that's odd. No matter how much I increase the window size, the sidebar width appears to stay fixed.
20120127 20:33:34< shadowm> that picture wouldn't fit 
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20120127 20:35:22< loonycyborg> mordante: What's up with 'rooms' on the mp server? Only new lobby seems to have GUI to switch between them
20120127 20:35:44< loonycyborg> It seems that one can /join and /part them, no matter what lobby is used.
20120127 20:35:53< loonycyborg> I wonder how many people know/use this feature :P
20120127 20:36:12< Crendgrim> shadowm: I might be wrong...
20120127 20:36:41< mordante> shadowm, it's indeed not possible, but I can add that if needs to be done
20120127 20:37:08< mordante> loonycyborg, I haven't gotten around at reworking the lobby :-(
20120127 20:37:23< mordante> listboxes still are not how I want them to be...
20120127 20:37:27< shadowm> of course it needs to be done if you don't want the titlescreen background to look jagged and ugly
20120127 20:38:01< shadowm> although I don't know what fendrin has in mind in order to improve the titlescreen in general either, so it's hard to say at this point whether there will be a need for this in 1.12
20120127 20:38:19< loonycyborg> mordante: The most annoying thing about them is that they forget current position whenever there's an update.
20120127 20:39:05< shadowm> mordante: related to the same loonycyborg asks: is there a way to force a scroll label to scroll to the bottom from C++?
20120127 20:39:39< shadowm> I tried this and it didn't work: http://shadowm.rewound.net/f/chat_log_scroll_to_bottom.diff
20120127 20:40:19< shadowm> (not to mention that trailing underscore suggests I'm violating interface policies)
20120127 20:41:42< mordante> no it's not possible
20120127 20:43:03< shadowm> hm, too bad. It was for FR #19320
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20120127 20:46:11< shadowm> This interim period awaiting the 1.10.0 announcement feels like an eternity.
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20120127 20:53:03< vultraz> shadowm: I know right?
20120127 20:53:55< shadowm> vultraz: nothing stops you from submitting patches
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20120127 20:59:44< shadowm> er.
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20120127 21:00:04< shadowm> Gambit: the start-3-full.jpg in the announcement shouldn't have a titlebar and it should be exactly 1024x768
20120127 21:00:17< shadowm> nor a titlebar, nor any other WM decoration elements
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20120127 21:02:13< shadowm> I wonder why everything I ask you to do, I end up doing myself...
20120127 21:05:25< mordante> I'm off bye
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20120127 21:06:10< shadowm> for that matter, who took start-5-full.jpg? it's also the wrong size
20120127 21:06:29< shadowm> !dirlog website/start/1.10/images
20120127 21:06:29< shikadibot> shadowm: Web interface URL to logs for dir website/start/1.10/images: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/website/start/1.10/images?view=log
20120127 21:06:55< shadowm> Espreon.
20120127 21:08:01< Gambit> ah crap
20120127 21:08:04< Gambit> good catch shadowm
20120127 21:08:14< shadowm> I guess I shouldn't have assumed you knew what you were doing with the Spanish translation images either.
20120127 21:08:49< Gambit> Oh wtf. It's not even the right width.
20120127 21:09:08< Gambit> I don't know how I messed that up so bad.
20120127 21:09:15< shadowm> Gambit: are you going to fix yours yourself or should I not interrupt my 1.10.0 build?
20120127 21:09:28< Gambit> shadowm: I will fix the screenshot yet
20120127 21:09:30< Gambit> *yes
20120127 21:09:45< shadowm> because I already gave my laptop one of those workouts I shouldn't during summer days
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20120127 21:10:18< shadowm> well, I'll still have to fix start-5-full.jpg anyway
20120127 21:11:37< anonymissimus> shadowm: what temperature di you have there ? :P
20120127 21:12:13< shadowm> currently 29 °C and the laptop reports 70 °C
20120127 21:12:47< shadowm> a few days ago the maximum was 34 - 35 °C
20120127 21:13:30< shadowm> (the laptop reports 71 °C because it's compiling 1.10.0. It's normally around 45 °C while idle these days)
20120127 21:15:38< CIA-59> grickit * r52776 /website/start/1.10/images/start-3-full.jpg: Fix start-3-full.jpg
20120127 21:17:06< shadowm> Ivanovic: what are the quality settings employed for JPEG screenshots gagain?
20120127 21:17:14< Ivanovic> -quality 90
20120127 21:17:46< shadowm> 90, okay
20120127 21:19:28< Ivanovic> posted the 1.10.0 forum announcement draft in the moderators forum
20120127 21:19:30< Ivanovic> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=35975
20120127 21:19:38< Ivanovic> edits and fixes welcome!
20120127 21:19:53< Ivanovic> (i plan to leave a reply with the text for the frontpage, too)
20120127 21:20:04< shadowm> later
20120127 21:20:18< shadowm> first I have to fix this screenshot
20120127 21:20:21< Ivanovic> there should be more than enough time to fix up the announcement
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20120127 21:24:57< shadowm> apparently, I have a bit of a problem trying to convince my window manager to let Wesnoth use 1024x768
20120127 21:34:25< CIA-59> shadowmaster * r52777 /website/start/1.10/images/ (start-5-full.jpg start-5.png): Generate a new start-5-full.jpg and start-5.png with a source screenshot with the correct window dimensions
20120127 21:37:45< shadowm> Ivanovic: do you want an edit, or a reply?
20120127 21:38:33< Ivanovic> i'd prefer both
20120127 21:38:35< Ivanovic> ;)
20120127 21:38:55< shadowm> not sure what you mean then
20120127 21:39:28< Ivanovic> i mean: edit the orginal post and post that you changed stuff possibly listing what
20120127 21:39:42< shadowm> ah, alright
20120127 21:39:43< Ivanovic> (in case it goes further than just "fixed typos and grammar"
20120127 21:42:07< shadowm> yeah, it will need to; the introduction is very bland and emotionless, and the XDG bug isn't accurately explained
20120127 21:53:12< anonymissimus> zookeeper: regarding http://gna.org/bugs/?19334, did you leave aways the allow_undo on purpose ?
20120127 21:53:50< anonymissimus> (since otherwise it can in case of DSU happen that the action wml isn't executed immediately ?)
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20120127 22:02:52< Gambit> Oh 90?
20120127 22:02:56< Gambit> Whoops. I've been doing 100.
20120127 22:06:20< Aethaeryn> Is there a trivial way to disable amla +HP effects globally in a scenario?
20120127 22:07:12< zookeeper> anonymissimus, umm, i remember making it as undo-friendly as possible, let me check...
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20120127 22:10:19< shadowm> Ivanovic: replied
20120127 22:10:47< Ivanovic> mkay
20120127 22:13:06< zookeeper> anonymissimus, right, it looks like he's right
20120127 22:15:06< zookeeper> any reason not to commit a fix now?
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20120127 22:16:48< anonymissimus> zookeeper: go ahead
20120127 22:17:32< CIA-59> zookeeper * r52778 /trunk/data/core/macros/event-utils.cfg: Fixes bug #19334: ON_SIGHTING macro too often blocking undo.
20120127 22:31:30< anonymissimus> zookeeper: btw it looks as if the case of a side turn event doesnt work in there, since ti has no units
20120127 22:32:03< anonymissimus> the filter returns false if  the tag is present
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20120127 22:32:49< zookeeper> err, you mean a side turn event with a [filter] never triggers?
20120127 22:33:19< anonymissimus> yes
20120127 22:33:33< zookeeper> well, that doesn't really make much sense...
20120127 22:33:41< anonymissimus> not tested atm, judged from teh code
20120127 22:33:50< anonymissimus> why ? it makes sense
20120127 22:34:42< anonymissimus> if you have an empty [filter] in a SLF it requires the whatever location to have a unit on it for instance
20120127 22:34:53< anonymissimus> whichever uni that may be
20120127 22:35:08< zookeeper> yeah, and since [filter] makes no sense in the context of a side turn event, it should get ignored
20120127 22:35:23< zookeeper> if i'd want a side turn event which never triggers, then i'd not write one in the first place :P
20120127 22:35:26< anonymissimus> so an empty [filter] in an event requires that even to have whatever unit, and some events don't have units by definition...
20120127 22:36:18< anonymissimus> the code filtering events doesn't know about the type of the event it filters
20120127 22:37:46< zookeeper> right
20120127 22:50:14< zookeeper> well, i'm not going to fix it so that it works on side turn too, so it can stay as far as i'm concerned. maybe someone will fix it one day ;)
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20120127 22:54:50< anonymissimus> I hope that Crab____ fixes the sighted event itself so we can screw all the haldf-baked workarounds
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20120127 23:26:51< Aethaeryn> Is there a way to detect when a unit is advancing?
20120127 23:27:10< Aethaeryn> so e.g. on advancement of a unit do something to that unit
20120127 23:27:39< zookeeper> umm, yeah, the advance event i guess.
20120127 23:27:51< zookeeper> or post attack, in case it triggers earlier
20120127 23:28:25< Aethaeryn> zookeeper: does this also work on amla?
20120127 23:28:42< zookeeper> it should
20120127 23:29:19< Aethaeryn> Is there a specific way to distinguish between amlas and regulars, then?
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20120127 23:37:47< anonymissimus> Aethaeryn: could you pls search answers for such questions in the wiki ?
20120127 23:38:17< Aethaeryn> anonymissimus: I only ask when I can't find it.
20120127 23:38:34< zookeeper> no specific way, no
20120127 23:38:39< anonymissimus> but "Is there a way to detect when a unit is advancing?" is easy and straightforward to find
20120127 23:38:53< Aethaeryn> If I asked on IRC every time I needed to look something up, then I'd have to ask about 1,000,000 times. I'm writing a complex several thousand line add-on.
20120127 23:39:10< Aethaeryn> anonymissimus: So thank you for assuming that I am lazy just because I couldn't find something.
20120127 23:39:29< anonymissimus> and you are IMHO asking a bit too much wml author questions in this developer channel
20120127 23:40:17< Aethaeryn> There isn't "WML author questions" vs. "just WML api questions". I'm asking developers how they wrote the API to Wesnoth. In this case, I was looking for "promotion" when it was "advance"
20120127 23:41:56< Aethaeryn> Also, there isn't a good channel for these kinds of questions. #wesnoth-umc-dev is for a project that's tangentially related to Wesnoth, not for the development of all UMC
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