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20120129 00:22:39< SigurdFireDragon> csarmi, my issues with gdb is that I cannot set backtraces on the one that comes with tdm-gcc 4.5.2...
20120129 00:23:05< SigurdFireDragon> ... nor is it easy to update gdb by itself outside of tdm-gcc...
20120129 00:23:42< SigurdFireDragon> ... also, whenever I try to run the debug build, it crashes before making it to the loading screen
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20120129 00:25:45< anonymissimus> SigurdFireDragon: hm perhaps post a backtrace of that crash ? (O don't think it would lead to anything however)
20120129 00:26:09< SigurdFireDragon> it's just a few lines, and gdb say it exited with code 01
20120129 00:26:47< SigurdFireDragon> wesnoth-debug.exe runs fine when it is launched without gdb
20120129 00:27:54< anonymissimus> well, perhaps win 7 too new for the gdb that comes with 4.5.2
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20120129 00:28:35< anonymissimus> mordante: what OS and gdb version was it when you used gdb on win ?
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20120129 00:45:15< SigurdFireDragon> Alarantalara, anonymissimus, or any other dev, could bug #19055 be fixed for 1.10.1? (the report includes two versions of a patch).
20120129 00:45:30< SigurdFireDragon> imho, it's likely to be noticed by the mp crowd
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20120129 00:50:06< Alarantalara> vultraz: I just noticed your ld error looking through the logs. It looks like your Xcode build may be linking against libraries other than the ones included in the compile stuff, though I don't know why
20120129 00:50:35< vultraz> hummm
20120129 00:50:49< vultraz> then how do I fix it
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20120129 00:51:55< Alarantalara> I'm not sure. i don't have the same version of Xcode you do
20120129 00:52:15< vultraz> yeah...
20120129 00:52:22< vultraz> that's a problem :P
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20120129 00:53:58< Alarantalara> I'd suggest trying to build for i386 instead of x86_64, just because I suspect that most of the libraries don't have 64 bit versions built
20120129 00:54:14< Alarantalara> Or you can build 64 bit versions of everything
20120129 00:54:47< vultraz> humm
20120129 00:56:14 * vultraz looks at settings
20120129 00:57:18< vultraz> should I turn Build Active Architecture Only on?
20120129 00:58:35< Alarantalara> It won't matter for debug builds
20120129 00:58:49< Alarantalara> it only builds one architecture there anyway
20120129 01:00:38< vultraz> Precompiled Header Uses Files From Build Directory
20120129 01:00:42< vultraz> set to yes
20120129 01:00:46< vultraz> that right?
20120129 01:00:50< Alarantalara> yes
20120129 01:02:37< vultraz> what about Scan All Source Files For Includes
20120129 01:03:23< Alarantalara> What do you have for "Header Search Paths" and "Library Search Paths"?
20120129 01:03:35< Alarantalara> Especially library
20120129 01:05:31< vultraz> library is:
20120129 01:06:25< vultraz> ./lib "Users/me/Wesnoth-1.9_svn/projectfiles/Xcode/libs"
20120129 01:06:34< vultraz> header:
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20120129 01:10:27< vultraz> Alarantalara: http://imagebin.org/196125
20120129 01:11:02< vultraz> when you click it it says $(inherited)
20120129 01:11:38< vultraz> when you click on libs it says $(inherited) "$(SRCROOT)/lib"
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20120129 01:15:48< anonymissimus> SigurdFireDragon: well that bug is too confusing for me
20120129 01:16:36< anonymissimus> and the mp crowd should come up with some patches/work/aspiring devs who can apply that patch when they want things fixed
20120129 01:17:29< anonymissimus> after they managed to get write access; instead of only complaining about the ugly water-flat transition
20120129 01:17:29< SigurdFireDragon> what's there is a little confusing for me as well, but I did test both, and they seem to work.
20120129 01:17:30< shadowm> aspiring developers cannot commit
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20120129 01:19:36< Alarantalara> What do you see for Linked Libraries if you edit the active target?
20120129 01:19:42< Alarantalara> vultraz: ^
20120129 01:20:45< Alarantalara> Project->Edit Active Target, General Tab for me
20120129 01:22:37< vultraz> well....for me I have a list under Summary
20120129 01:22:50< vultraz> Linked Frameworks and Libraries 
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20120129 01:25:17< vultraz> Alarantalara: http://imagebin.org/196127
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20120129 01:28:01< Alarantalara> Hmm, so how is ld referencing a library not on that list?
20120129 01:29:07< vultraz> I dunno...
20120129 01:29:27< vultraz> BTW is teh header link path supposed to be that long thing?
20120129 01:29:33< vultraz> not just ./headers?
20120129 01:29:47< Alarantalara> Yes, it needs all the headers in each framework as well from libs
20120129 01:30:05< vultraz> ahh
20120129 01:30:09< vultraz> humm....
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20120129 01:30:32< vultraz> seems wesnothd looks for libs in /usr/local/i386/libs too
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20120129 01:32:30< Alarantalara> that likely isn't needed
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20120129 01:32:55< vultraz> (looks only for debug builds)
20120129 01:33:01< vultraz> so should I remove it?
20120129 01:33:29< vultraz> http://imagebin.org/196129
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20120129 01:34:28< Alarantalara> you could try, but since it shouldn't have an effect on wesnoth, it probably isn't worth it
20120129 01:36:48< Aethaeryn> Hmm... So trunk right now is on the 1.10+svn and there is no 1.10 tag/branch... 
20120129 01:36:51< Aethaeryn> Oh, nevermind
20120129 01:37:03< Aethaeryn> Stupid svn.gna.org sorts 1.10 after 1.1.9 :-P
20120129 01:37:24< Aethaeryn> I see the tag now
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20120129 01:56:52< vultraz> Alarantalara: interesting....an error that always appeared when compiling wesnothd doesn't now
20120129 01:57:06< vultraz> (always on 10.7)
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20120129 02:02:14< CIA-59> alarantalara * r52784 /trunk/projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Remove useless path
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20120129 04:22:33< kernigh> I got a weird bug. If a scenario has [endlevel] inside a moveto [event], and you attack from that hex, *and* you are playing it on the multiplayer server, then weird stuff happens.
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20120129 04:49:08< kernigh> https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?19343
20120129 04:49:38< kernigh> If you have a multiplayer scenario, where you win by moving onto some hex, and you attack from that hex, then weird stuff happens.
20120129 04:52:34< Espreon> Define "weird stuff".
20120129 04:53:10< kernigh> Quoting myself: "The combat happens during linger mode, after the scenario ends. The 'End Scenario' button is active, but clicking it does nothing.
20120129 04:53:22< kernigh> "Also, the Menu misses the options to Save Game or Save Replay, so there is no way to save."
20120129 04:53:34< Espreon> Ewww.
20120129 04:53:39< kernigh> It *only* happens on the multiplayer server.
20120129 04:53:53< kernigh> If you do a local game, it doesn't happen.
20120129 04:56:09< kernigh> The attachment on Gna is a little test scenario that reproduces the bug. I made a victory signpost and put an enemy Elvish Sylph next to it.
20120129 04:56:22< kernigh> (At first I put a Fire Dragon. And then I learned that Fire Dragons are ENORMOUS HUGE.)
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20120129 05:11:55< fendrin> Gambit, shadowm: I need a way to get the default sorting for a subforum changed to "Subject", is that possible.
20120129 05:11:56< fendrin> ?
20120129 05:12:22< shadowm> no
20120129 05:14:25< fendrin> That is ugly.
20120129 05:19:02< Espreon> ...?
20120129 05:22:46< fendrin> Espreon: I am just looking for a way to organize my feedback threads.
20120129 05:23:15< fendrin> Espreon: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewforum.php?f=51
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20120129 05:51:38< Aethaeryn> lol, I just crashed the game
20120129 05:51:41< Aethaeryn> Planning mode.
20120129 05:51:51< Aethaeryn> Plan to attack a unit then move to another location, then die on the attack.
20120129 05:52:38< Aethaeryn> yup, reproducable too
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20120129 06:49:48-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: tagged 1.10.0, announcing on January 29th | HARD string and feature-freeze active for trunk and the 1.10 announcment | 152 bugs, 335 feature requests, 18 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20120129 07:05:36< shadowm> 03:04:37 <shadowm> validation.cpp:(.text+0x1c): undefined reference to `font::is_format_char(char)'
20120129 07:06:02< shadowm> apparently adding the WML formatting chars check to campaignd will involve adding more object files to the linker command line
20120129 07:07:19< shadowm> hm, or I could move that ridiculously simple method to an object file of its own in the core set
20120129 07:10:19< shadowm> ugh.
20120129 07:15:37< shadowm> of course, I could use the cheaper alternative of pretending these markup chars (since they are becoming rarer and rarer in production) are never going to change and hard-wire the list into campaignd...
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20120129 09:20:26< mordante> servus
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20120129 09:26:49< mordante> anonymissimus, SigurdFireDragon, not entirely sure but gdb 7.2 (and I think 7.3) on Win XP, vista and 7
20120129 09:27:28< mordante> anonymissimus, SigurdFireDragon, I had a problem with a gcc-tdm compiler (can't remember the version)
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20120129 09:28:49< mordante> anonymissimus, SigurdFireDragon, when using SJLJ exception handling that gcc version made a mess
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20120129 09:29:42< mordante> it crashed on this badly produced exception frames, this also confused gdb, but the compiler was to blame
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20120129 10:27:50< CIA-59> mordante * r52786 /trunk/data/core/about.cfg: Add the native client porter to the credits.
20120129 10:27:54< CIA-59> mordante * r52785 /trunk/ (changelog data/campaigns/tutorial/scenarios/2_Tutorial.cfg): 
20120129 10:27:54< CIA-59> Fixed the translation of some tutorial messages.
20120129 10:27:54< CIA-59> The second part of the narrator messages were not translated, not sure
20120129 10:27:54< CIA-59> why. This patch is a work-around not a proper fix. Once 1.10 is in its
20120129 10:27:55< CIA-59> own branch a proper fix can be committed. That fix will change
20120129 10:27:55< CIA-59> translatable strings, and is the reason for a work-around in the trunk.
20120129 10:27:56< CIA-59> Fixes bug #19316.
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20120129 11:49:30< Ivanovic> moin
20120129 11:57:05< vultraz> hey
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20120129 12:45:23< mordante> Ivanovic, I fixed the tutorial, have fun with announcing later
20120129 12:45:32< mordante> I'm off now
20120129 12:45:35< Ivanovic> cu
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20120129 13:40:43< Ivanovic> timotei: please make sure to update http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Download in regards to the eclipse IDE for 1.10
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20120129 13:48:21< Ivanovic> everyone: please look for any mistakes on the downloads page: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Download
20120129 13:50:27< Ivanovic> and of course please search through the wiki for 1.8 references (as well as 1.9 references) and update the information for 1.10
20120129 13:50:34< Ivanovic> eg a prime candidate for this is the compiling page
20120129 13:50:49< Ivanovic> boucman: do you know if openmp stuff is listed/documented somewhere?
20120129 13:50:58< Ivanovic> (eg the INSTALL file as well as the compiling page?
20120129 13:51:10< Ivanovic> afk for some time
20120129 13:55:17< Crendgrim> in the wiki documentation, should all "dev feature 1.9" marks be removed? Or rather not?
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20120129 15:25:42< anonymissimus> mordante: hm, the compiler used atm is tdm-gcc-4.5.2 with sjlj, same for the windows releases afaik
20120129 15:26:06< anonymissimus> (I couldn't get the other exception handling to work ;))
20120129 15:27:27< anonymissimus> gdb --version says 7.2 for the one in tdm-gcc-4.5.2
20120129 15:28:29< anonymissimus> Crendgrim: aren't you the wiki admin ? do you see any way of scripting the stuff with the DevFeature ?
20120129 15:29:12< anonymissimus> I mean yes; the DevFeature macros referring to 1.9 or earlier should be removed
20120129 15:29:53< Crendgrim> anonymissimus: I don't think that's feasible, as the DEV_FEATURE macros always go along with some human-written text
20120129 15:30:05< anonymissimus> although there probably often is the problem that the grammar of the sentence no longer matches when it is auto-removed
20120129 15:30:29< Crendgrim> right
20120129 15:30:42< Crendgrim> but I can take care of the manual removal.
20120129 15:31:06< anonymissimus> well, perhaps a script which just serches and points out outdated ones
20120129 15:31:18< Crendgrim> that you don't need
20120129 15:31:39< Crendgrim> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:DevFeature1.9
20120129 15:32:03< Crendgrim> I'll go through the list and remove them.
20120129 15:32:05< anonymissimus> you could change the wording for {{DevFeature1.9}} to "this feature was implemented in 1.9"
20120129 15:32:14< Crendgrim> that was exactly my question
20120129 15:32:24< anonymissimus> and make a new {{DevFeature1.10}}
20120129 15:32:27< anonymissimus> .11
20120129 15:32:37< Crendgrim> whether we should leave a trace when it was implemented, or whether we should completely remove the message
20120129 15:33:30< anonymissimus> as far as I'm concerned, leaving that trace is only because nobody made the work of removing it completely
20120129 15:33:59< anonymissimus> that stuff would clutter the wiki over time, and the commit log shows when things were implemented
20120129 15:34:04< Crendgrim> yes
20120129 15:34:17< Crendgrim> there are even some dev_feature_1.7 labels spread around somewhere
20120129 15:36:40< Crendgrim> okay, so I'll remove them.
20120129 15:36:46< anonymissimus> well then, I think it'd be great if you do it :)
20120129 15:37:39< anonymissimus> and I need the DevFeature1.11 one as soon as I can dcommit
20120129 15:38:01< Crendgrim> sure... I can create it right now
20120129 15:39:08< Crendgrim> anonymissimus: just copy over the old one?
20120129 15:40:05< anonymissimus> you are the wiki admin :)
20120129 15:40:58< Crendgrim> well, if you like the old one, then I'll just copy.
20120129 15:44:15< Crendgrim> anonymissimus: DevFeature1.11 created.
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20120129 15:49:06< anonymissimus> Aethaeryn: can you pls report ?
20120129 15:54:01< Crendgrim> someone with AnimationWML knowledge should have a look at http://wiki.wesnoth.org/AnimationWML#Syntax_summary
20120129 15:54:26< Crendgrim> there are a few things marked as "dev feature 1.9", but I don't edit that as I have no idea what that section is about
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20120129 17:14:36< Crendgrim> who implemented [heal_unit] / knows how it works?
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20120129 17:15:43< Crendgrim> also, what is about "sighted" events and the whiteboard? Are there any changes to 1.8 regarding the buggyness of these events? The documentation needs clarification here
20120129 17:16:20< Crendgrim> then, is [set_variable] divide= unsupported now?
20120129 17:16:52< Crendgrim> and finally, what does [store_starting_location] if the SSF matches multiple sides?
20120129 17:18:55< anonymissimus> Crendgrim: store_starting_loc creates and array in that case
20120129 17:20:30< Crendgrim> thanks.
20120129 17:22:22< anonymissimus> divide unsupported, why ? its not
20120129 17:22:53< Crendgrim> anonymissimus: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/InternalActionsWML#.5Bset_variable.5D
20120129 17:23:04< Crendgrim> ahh
20120129 17:23:07< Crendgrim> now I understand.
20120129 17:23:08< Crendgrim> sorry.
20120129 17:23:40< anonymissimus> it juts changed to floating point only
20120129 17:23:43< Crendgrim> yes
20120129 17:23:49< Crendgrim> but the second sentence is "it's integer only"
20120129 17:23:52< anonymissimus> alshtough that info is worthwile to keep in there
20120129 17:24:02< Crendgrim> every change just added one sentence..
20120129 17:24:26< Crendgrim> hm... now I deleted all information about old syntax where the new syntax changed..
20120129 17:25:05< anonymissimus> that "The result is an integer" is clearly wrong
20120129 17:25:26< Crendgrim> so, how would you describe it?
20120129 17:26:35< anonymissimus> "divide the variable by the given number. The result is a float.  From Version 1.9 on, Integer division is no longer used. Use floor function in addition if you relied on this."
20120129 17:27:48< anonymissimus> as for sighted and wb, no changes
20120129 17:28:14< anonymissimus> if the doc is unclear, that just matches the state of the engine ;) 
20120129 17:28:20< Crendgrim> hehe
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20120129 17:29:06< anonymissimus> so you could just update the version numbers; the wb is still floating in test phase
20120129 17:29:21< anonymissimus> and the sighted event is as buggy as usual
20120129 17:30:12< Crendgrim> well, I just leave it as it is
20120129 17:30:33< Crendgrim> bumping the version number isn't correct either (as the whiteboard is already implemented)..
20120129 17:31:13< anonymissimus> and whats with heal_unit ?
20120129 17:31:58< Crendgrim> "[filter]: StandardUnitFilter the first unit matching the filter will be healed. If no filter is supplied, it is tried to take the unit at $x1, $y1. (Version 1.9 and later only) All matching on-map units are healed. "
20120129 17:32:29< Crendgrim> if no unit matches the SUF, will the engine still try to heal the unit at $x1,$y1?
20120129 17:34:21< anonymissimus> just edited that myself
20120129 17:34:26< Crendgrim> thanks.
20120129 17:35:44< Crendgrim> so, only EventWML with the sighted events, CompilingWesnoth with something about Lua (which I have a look at now) and the AI customization thing left.
20120129 17:52:10< anonymissimus> i updated the sighted event doc
20120129 17:52:39< anonymissimus> actually we could just remove the documentation for it
20120129 17:52:58< anonymissimus> although pointing to the workaround is good
20120129 18:04:14< CIA-59> caslav_ilic * r52787 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Updated localized images for Italian (provided by Antonio Rosella).
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20120129 19:16:47< anonymissimus> timotei: is there a way to tell --preprocess to expand and write into the output file *some* macros and leave other macro calls untouched ?
20120129 19:17:00< timotei> anonymissimus: no :P
20120129 19:17:03< timotei> all or none xD
20120129 19:17:15< timotei> Why? Would you want such thing?
20120129 19:17:29< timotei> I guess it can be easily done...
20120129 19:17:38< anonymissimus> I would want a script to read some macro definitions, and then run it onto many cfg files and expand all the calls to those macros
20120129 19:17:53< timotei> Hmmm
20120129 19:18:01< timotei> Well
20120129 19:18:02< anonymissimus> yes, this would ne useful for the tutorial for instance
20120129 19:18:12< timotei> Just input the file with macros.
20120129 19:18:14< anonymissimus> and I needed it once in my campaign as well
20120129 19:18:15< timotei> Isn't that enough?
20120129 19:18:33< timotei> I mean, you can feed an
20120129 19:18:38< timotei> --preprocess-input-macros <file>
20120129 19:18:43< timotei> that contains macros definitions
20120129 19:19:10< anonymissimus> well, but the file which has macro calls that shall be expanded has also macro definitions which shall not
20120129 19:19:24< timotei> anonymissimus: Ah....
20120129 19:19:34< anonymissimus> and the file with the macro definitions has some definitions which shall not be expanded
20120129 19:19:35< timotei> That's preprocessor's bussines 
20120129 19:19:45< timotei> I mean, if he doesn't find a macro => error
20120129 19:19:58< anonymissimus> so I would like to pass a list of the defines that shall be expanded
20120129 19:20:00< timotei> And you can't tell him what to expand and what not
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20120129 19:20:09< timotei> Not without modifying it.
20120129 19:20:28< anonymissimus> alternatively, a mode for wmlscope writing its output could also be fines
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20120129 19:20:49< anonymissimus> since it must be doing somethign similar
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20120129 19:20:57< timotei> So, you're saying something like:
20120129 19:21:07< timotei> You have your _main.cfg, and you use some macros
20120129 19:21:23< timotei> The preprocess to output the preprocessed file just with some macros expanded, the rest remaining the same?
20120129 19:21:33< anonymissimus> yes
20120129 19:21:47< timotei> So, yeah, just by modifying the preprocessor.
20120129 19:21:53< timotei> Or... with some "ugly" hacks
20120129 19:22:03< anonymissimus> this would be useful n general if you want to remove a macro in mainline or in UMC
20120129 19:22:11< timotei> like, removing the macros calls for un-needed ones before feeding it to the preprocessor
20120129 19:22:14< anonymissimus> and need to fix all calls to it
20120129 19:22:22< timotei> hmm
20120129 19:22:41< anonymissimus> such as relplacing all MODIFY_UNIT calls with [modify_unit] for instance
20120129 19:23:00< timotei> I see
20120129 19:24:57< timotei> Well, the in-memory version of the config is fully unprocessed
20120129 19:25:09< timotei> I guess if we need that hack, I have to code it into --preprocess xD
20120129 19:27:41< anonymissimus> I wrote once a script for one macro in particular
20120129 19:28:07< anonymissimus> it worked for most of the cases without caring for indentation, I ran an indenter afterwards
20120129 19:28:25< timotei> Why not use that then?:P
20120129 19:28:32< anonymissimus> and fixed a few problem cases manually
20120129 19:28:40< anonymissimus> it was a piece of crap
20120129 19:29:22< anonymissimus> and I would need ages to get it to work generally; the most useful existing structures are your parameters and wmlscope, perhaps
20120129 19:30:06< anonymissimus> since I had several hundred calls probably it was worth writing it in that case
20120129 19:31:42< timotei> anonymissimus: I could go something like:
20120129 19:32:04< timotei> Pre-preprocess the file, by #token (commenting) the file the macros unneeded to be expanded
20120129 19:32:07< timotei> then run preprocessor
20120129 19:32:13< timotei> and uncomment the macro calls back :D
20120129 19:32:27< timotei> But that can be done by a simpler python script, rather than invoke it on the game
20120129 19:32:28< timotei> engine
20120129 19:34:28< anonymissimus> hm yeah that seems feasible
20120129 19:35:13< anonymissimus> so I would just have a script which puts a # in front of all macro calls, unless they are in a list of given parameters
20120129 19:35:20< timotei> Yeah
20120129 19:35:26< anonymissimus> and then run --preprocess on it
20120129 19:35:41< timotei> Now, there's some quirks
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20120129 19:35:46< timotei> Something like:
20120129 19:36:01< timotei> {UNPROCESSEDMACRO PARAM1 {PROCESSED MACRO } }
20120129 19:36:01< timotei> :P
20120129 19:36:24< timotei> We comment the {UNPRO... part, and get the {PROCESSED commented aswell
20120129 19:36:35< timotei> But this are not so big problems... I guess
20120129 19:37:30< Kolbur> hello
20120129 19:37:48< anonymissimus> but if we have #{, then does the preprocessor ignore that line ?
20120129 19:38:03< timotei> Hi koan 
20120129 19:38:07< timotei> Hi Kolbur 
20120129 19:38:08< anonymissimus> htat is. it doesnt even write it into the output ?
20120129 19:38:15< timotei> anonymissimus: hmm good idea
20120129 19:38:21< timotei> Good observation*
20120129 19:38:25< timotei> Yeah, it doesn't :(
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20120129 19:47:56< anonymissimus> well, the external script could work around it: after the processing, we largely take the original files, except when reaching a line with {TO_BE_EXPANDED, then take stuff from the preocessed one until reaching a line in it that the original also has
20120129 19:48:11< timotei> Well
20120129 19:48:25< timotei> Then, better: find referenecs to: {TO_BE_EXPANDED
20120129 19:48:37< anonymissimus> or that is the next line after {TO_BE_EXPANDED has closed
20120129 19:48:41< timotei> Copy just those in one file, preprocess that, and copy back the results
20120129 19:48:53< timotei> Yeah, that's better Ig uess
20120129 19:49:20< timotei> Creating a temporary file, just with the {to_be_expanded stuff
20120129 19:50:47< anonymissimus> that might work...the external script could keep track of which portion it copied from there
20120129 19:50:53< timotei> Yeah
20120129 19:51:00< timotei> Well, just the order matters.
20120129 19:51:04< anonymissimus> from which line
20120129 19:51:22< anonymissimus> and then copy the preprocessed macro calls back
20120129 19:51:28< timotei> Yep
20120129 19:52:03< vultraz> I installed MacPorts and installed Cairo and Pango with it
20120129 19:52:09< vultraz> cmake now finds pangocairo
20120129 19:52:17< vultraz> make ing ATM :D
20120129 19:52:31< timotei> vultraz: didn't alarantalara made a zip that contains all required libs and so on?
20120129 19:53:25< vultraz> timotei: Xcode uses that
20120129 19:53:47< vultraz> and ATM my xcode builds are crashing
20120129 19:53:54< timotei> Ah
20120129 19:54:33< vultraz> MacPorts FTW
20120129 19:54:38< timotei> Yeah :D
20120129 19:54:39< vultraz> Fink FTL
20120129 19:55:03< fendrin> wesbot: seen Espreon?
20120129 19:55:03< wesbot> fendrin: Queried user last spoke 14h 36m ago.  Espreon is currently here and on the channels #wesnoth, #wesnoth-de and #wesnoth-umc-dev.
20120129 19:55:11< anonymissimus> timotei: ok, thanks for your ideas
20120129 19:55:41< timotei> anonymissimus: I wish I could have written such thing... but there's currently so many things I have to do, that I can't find anymore time for others :(
20120129 19:55:54< anonymissimus> I don't write scripts in python though since I dont know how to operate on filesystems with that
20120129 20:06:38< vultraz> aghhhh
20120129 20:06:42< vultraz> error: http://pastebin.com/0g1KVSpt
20120129 20:06:44< vultraz> :S
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20120129 20:23:00< Ivanovic> timotei: you saw my message in the logs?
20120129 20:23:16< timotei> Ivanovic: no. I'll read the logs if it's the case
20120129 20:23:19< Ivanovic> [13:40:43] <Ivanovic> timotei: please make sure to update http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Download in regards to the eclipse IDE for 1.10
20120129 20:23:51< timotei> Ok.
20120129 20:24:26< Ivanovic> @everybody: ready for the 1.10 announcement?
20120129 20:24:49< timotei> Yeah
20120129 20:25:16< vultraz> yes! :D
20120129 20:28:24< shadowm> yes
20120129 20:29:08< lipk> shadowm: you're late :P
20120129 20:29:15< shadowm> I know
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20120129 20:33:29< Kolbur> ready to spread the message ;)
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20120129 20:34:58< lipk> wesnoth.org front page won't  be updated ?
20120129 20:35:17< shadowm> what makes you think so?
20120129 20:35:35< Ivanovic> lipk: it will, just give me some mins...
20120129 20:36:33< lipk> i just thought it has been already prepared and it's just a matter of two clicks
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20120129 20:38:18< Ivanovic> nope, it is a little more than 2 clicks especially since i want to clean up the page removing old news, too
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20120129 20:42:28< vultraz> Ivanovic: shouldn't this be replaced now?
20120129 20:42:30< vultraz> http://www.wesnoth.org/images/sshots/wesnoth-1.4-4.jpg
20120129 20:44:29< Ivanovic> why should the 1.4 screenshots be removed?
20120129 20:44:52< Ivanovic> and even more important: from where should they be removed?
20120129 20:45:16< vultraz> we;that's the one displayed on the main Create page
20120129 20:45:20< vultraz> well*
20120129 20:46:09< vultraz> maybe just give it a different screenshot?
20120129 20:46:17< Ivanovic> the create page is a wiki
20120129 20:46:23< Ivanovic> if there is a better screenshot: use it!
20120129 20:46:26< Aethaeryn> anonymissimus: All the bugs I've discovered were in the context of my complicated add-on that heavily mods the game. I have to get around to reproducing them in issolated scenarios to factor out any effect that the thousands of lines of code or any other peculiarities of the setup could be producing.
20120129 20:46:39< ancestral> Is this still relevant? "Supported by Jexiste"
20120129 20:46:55< Ivanovic> ancestral: yes, the DNS name is a gift from jexiste
20120129 20:47:27< Ivanovic> @all: updated the frontpage
20120129 20:47:31< Ivanovic> please tell me any mistakes you find
20120129 20:48:29< anonymissimus> Aethaeryn: alright...well from what your description sounded, it may be an addon-independent bug
20120129 20:48:34< shadowm> I think "The Battle for Wesnoth team" in the overview blurb should be replaced by "The development team" to avoid redundancy
20120129 20:48:54< shadowm> also not sure why the game's name is italicized (and repeated too) in that paragraph
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20120129 20:50:16< anonymissimus> Aethaeryn: but you're right, making a bug report whithout a strpped-down testcase is useless
20120129 20:50:18< Aethaeryn> anonymissimus: I suspect both the shroud one and the planning mode one should be reproducable, and I'll create two scenarios, one each, that will make it really easy to reproduce.
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20120129 20:50:58< Aethaeryn> I just don't want to submit 23 files when 1 will work too
20120129 20:51:11< anonymissimus> in the areas of wb and shroud however, bugs are likely
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20120129 20:52:12< ancestral> It's a shame most reviewers don't review the same game more than once
20120129 20:52:42< shadowm> indeed
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20120129 20:59:53-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: HARD string and feature-freeze active for trunk and the 1.10 announcment | 150 bugs, 335 feature requests, 17 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20120129 21:01:12< cjhopman> Ivanovic: download/source links for 1.10 don't work... sourceforge subdirectory is /wesnoth-1.10/wesnoth-1.10/... links expect /wesnoth-1.10/wesnoth-1.10.0/...
20120129 21:08:56< Ivanovic> cjhopman: fixed
20120129 21:14:59< CIA-59> ivanovic * r52788 /branches/1.10/: 
20120129 21:14:59< CIA-59> created the 1.10 branch:
20120129 21:14:59< CIA-59> 1.10 is announced and there should have been enough time for commits belong to both, 1.10 as well as 1.11/trunk, so branching 1.10 off. The following rules apply for the 1.10 branch:
20120129 21:14:59< CIA-59> * Try to keep changes to the minimum required to fix bugs.
20120129 21:14:59< CIA-59> * Try to only change strings that really have to be changed to fix bugs/issues.
20120129 21:15:00< CIA-59> * Translation updates are welcome!
20120129 21:15:56-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 150 bugs, 335 feature requests, 17 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20120129 21:16:21< shadowm> Ivanovic: by hardware cursor in your post you mean no cursor at all, right? (It's a good idea to clarify this since some screenshot apps can include the cursor)
20120129 21:16:33< Ivanovic> shadowm: yeah
20120129 21:16:40< shadowm> (e.g. ksnapshot)
20120129 21:17:14< timotei> Yay
20120129 21:17:25< timotei> So trunk is free to be broken, right? xD
20120129 21:17:48< shadowm> time to un-postpone all postponed bugs, I guess?
20120129 21:18:30< Ivanovic> shadowm: sounds good to me!
20120129 21:18:52< anonymissimus> yeah, right, time to dcommit all the buggy features!
20120129 21:19:11< shadowm> should I leave a note or just change the status?
20120129 21:19:36< shadowm> ohm, I can't connect to gna.org
20120129 21:19:53< timotei> shadowm: me neither.
20120129 21:19:56< timotei> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at gna.org.
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20120129 21:20:24< shadowm> it seems their httpd is down
20120129 21:20:46< Crendgrim> hehe... 1.10 was too much for them :)
20120129 21:20:55< Ivanovic> ups...
20120129 21:20:57< Ivanovic> ;)
20120129 21:21:42< anonymissimus> are people committing now ? I have some revisions pending, dont wont my dcommit to "break"
20120129 21:21:55< shadowm> not me 
20120129 21:22:34< timotei> anonymissimus: go on
20120129 21:23:45< vultraz> so the thaw is now official?
20120129 21:23:52< vultraz> :D
20120129 21:26:13< Espreon> Ivanovic: When do we get to clean out pofix?
20120129 21:26:23< Ivanovic> Espreon: i'd say: right now would be perfect!
20120129 21:26:26< anonymissimus> hm 1.10 doesnt show up in my gui
20120129 21:26:28< Ivanovic> just leave a single example in
20120129 21:26:32< anonymissimus> the branch
20120129 21:26:33< timotei> anonymissimus: ?
20120129 21:26:40< timotei> anonymissimus: git branch  you saying?
20120129 21:27:49< shadowm> anonymissimus: did you use git svn fetch  first?
20120129 21:28:38< anonymissimus> git svn rebase ? doesnt that fetch ?
20120129 21:29:16< timotei> It does IIRC
20120129 21:29:18< CIA-59> espreon * r52789 /branches/1.10/po/wesnoth-thot/la.po: Updated the Latin translation.
20120129 21:29:28< shadowm> I said git svn fetch. rebase only works with the current upstream branch.
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20120129 21:31:10 * anonymissimus is confused about git commands
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20120129 21:31:33< shadowm> reading the man pages helps a lot
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20120129 21:32:04 * anonymissimus always found those Linux-ish man pages very confusing
20120129 21:32:27< CIA-59> espreon * r52790 /trunk/po/wesnoth-thot/la.po: Updated the Latin translation.
20120129 21:32:45 * anonymissimus discovers often that stuff mentioned on the Linux-ish git man pages don't work on win or with his git version
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20120129 21:37:44< anonymissimus> is this fetch supposed to last as long as the initial rebase or so ?
20120129 21:38:57< shadowm> it's supposed to last as long as necessary if you don't run it often enough to track changes in other branches
20120129 21:39:27< shadowm> it needs to go through all revisions it missed
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20120129 21:40:17< anonymissimus> oh my
20120129 21:41:21< CIA-59> espreon * r52791 /trunk/data/campaigns/Sceptre_of_Fire/images/portraits/ (durstorn-insane.png elvish_marshal.png haldric-ii-old.png): Ran umcpropfix.
20120129 21:41:25< CIA-59> espreon * r52792 /branches/1.10/data/campaigns/Sceptre_of_Fire/images/portraits/ (durstorn-insane.png elvish_marshal.png haldric-ii-old.png): Ran umcpropfix.
20120129 21:42:10< shadowm> Ivanovic: so, regarding the postponed bugs, should I leave a note, or just change the status?
20120129 21:43:01< Espreon> Ivanovic: Shall I remove everything from pofix or shall I keep the release announcement-related stuff like last time?
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20120129 22:04:17< Ivanovic> Espreon: keep the release announcement stuff as example for future uses
20120129 22:04:23< Espreon> OK.
20120129 22:04:29< Ivanovic> shadowm: hmm, i'd say just change the status
20120129 22:04:46< Ivanovic> everybody with the bug assigned should get notified this way and act upon it
20120129 22:04:54< shadowm> okay
20120129 22:05:09< Ivanovic> (eg mordante for those "will be fixed by the rewrite" cases which will likely be set to "postponed" shortly after the change
20120129 22:06:45< CIA-59> ivanovic * r52793 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog src/wesconfig.h): change the version to 1.11.0-svn so that branches/1.10 and trunk are mp-incompatible
20120129 22:06:47< Ivanovic> Soliton: have you already started a new mp server for trunk?
20120129 22:07:02< Ivanovic> Soliton: and don't forget to change the version accept stuff for the mp server
20120129 22:07:12< ancestral> Submitted updates for BfW downloads to Mac Game Files and MacUpdate
20120129 22:08:27< shadowm> it looks like gna.org is failling apart
20120129 22:08:45< shadowm> *falling
20120129 22:09:25< shadowm> https://gna.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=2324
20120129 22:11:33< CIA-59> espreon * r52794 /trunk/utils/pofix.py: Cleansed pofix.
20120129 22:13:54< CIA-59> espreon * r52795 /trunk/Doxyfile: Bumped version number.
20120129 22:14:22< Ivanovic> submitted 1.10 to happypenguin.org
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20120129 22:35:50< shadowm> btw, I decided to deassign bugs assigned to zaroth
20120129 22:36:01< Ivanovic> sounds reasonable
20120129 22:36:17< Ivanovic> what about other seemingly inactive devs (if there are reports assigned to them)
20120129 22:36:43< Ivanovic> eg baufo
20120129 22:37:01< shadowm> I'd probably need a list. I can only think of thonsew, silene atm.
20120129 22:37:02< Ivanovic> cib, dave, dragonking
20120129 22:37:10< shadowm> ilor's state isn't very clear to me either.
20120129 22:37:26< Ivanovic> for the moment i'd say: unassign from all that are rather inactive lately
20120129 22:37:29< Ivanovic> so including esr
20120129 22:37:41< Ivanovic> lets see for the list:
20120129 22:37:46< shadowm> esr isn't *that* inactive
20120129 22:38:34< shadowm> I feel like I've been unmarking Postponed bugs for hours.
20120129 22:38:35< Ivanovic> baufo, cib, dave, dragonking, esr, hajo, ilor, jhinrichs (aka YogiHH), nephro
20120129 22:40:55< Ivanovic> shadowm: i know that esr war around some days ago, though regarding wesnoth development i see him as inactive dev atm
20120129 22:41:46< vultraz> BTW what about all those feature requests that date way back
20120129 22:41:57< vultraz> and refer to old wesnoth versions
20120129 22:42:14< shadowm> we can always use user help triaging bugs and FRs
20120129 22:44:07< shadowm> loonycyborg: could you take a look at some old FRs assigned to suokko and decide whether they are valid or assign them to yourself, btw?
20120129 22:44:11< shadowm> they are network-related
20120129 22:45:14< loonycyborg> shadowm: Sure. Which ones? 
20120129 22:45:46< shadowm> the ones assigned to suokko :p
20120129 22:46:15< shadowm> #10863 and #10864 at least, but you can easily see everything with a filter
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20120129 22:47:47< shadowm> mordante's going to live the surprise on his email inbox next time he takes a look
20120129 22:47:54< shadowm> both love and live
20120129 22:47:59< Crendgrim> what's about the add-on server for 1.10/1.11? IIUC, the 1.9 add-on server will become the 1.10 one? And what's with 1.11, will that be a copy of the old server as well?
20120129 22:48:23< shadowm> the 1.9.x add-ons server was always the 1.10 add-ons server; read the announcement.
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20120129 22:49:20< Crendgrim> yes
20120129 22:49:25< Crendgrim> and 1.11?
20120129 22:49:40< Espreon> anonymissimus: Is there any good reason we aren't capitalizing "Lua" properly? In some cases even treating it like an acronym...
20120129 22:49:45< shadowm> most likely a clean instance
20120129 22:49:49< Crendgrim> thanks.
20120129 22:49:50< loonycyborg> shadowm: 10863 isn't network related. iirc silene did some improvements on config class.
20120129 22:50:10< shadowm> Espreon: none. It's a portuguese word and never intended as an acronym. 
20120129 22:50:20< shadowm> loonycyborg: I'll mark it as fixed and close it then
20120129 22:50:25< Espreon> shadowm: Exactly.
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20120129 22:51:31< shadowm> i.e. http://www.lua.org/about.html#name
20120129 22:51:55< Aethaeryn> Hmm, resizing the window from maximized to a small windowed causes all sorts of bugs if a dialog (e.g. F1) is up.
20120129 22:52:19< shadowm> I hope all of those are reported!
20120129 22:52:20< Espreon> shadowm: Yeah, just because of that I'm gonna break compatibility.
20120129 22:52:25< shadowm> Espreon: no 
20120129 22:52:27< shadowm> Espreon: what?
20120129 22:52:37< Espreon> shadowm: Look for all instances of "LUA"
20120129 22:52:40< Ivanovic> shadowm: regarding the list i forgot some names: suokko, upthorn, zaroth
20120129 22:52:41< Espreon> ... in data/lua
20120129 22:52:50< Ivanovic> not sure about sapient, if he still works on stuff or not
20120129 22:52:57< Aethaeryn> shadowm: I write them down on IRC as I discover them... I can't report every single bug right away.
20120129 22:53:18< Ivanovic> Aethaeryn: why not?
20120129 22:53:19< shadowm> Espreon: leave that to anonymissimus so he can hopefully decide best
20120129 22:53:29< Espreon> :(
20120129 22:53:33< shadowm> although please remember that there's absolutely no reason to support 1.10.x saved games in 1.11.0
20120129 22:53:35< Aethaeryn> Ivanovic: Most of the bugs would be best off if I code test cases designed to trigger them
20120129 22:53:37< Ivanovic> Aethaeryn: write the single sentence down as you find the issue and fill it with details later on
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20120129 22:55:02< shadowm> Aethaeryn: if you dump reports on IRC, they'll get lost to time unless you can somehow make sure a relevant developer reads them and acts on them (though most will also ask you to file issues in the tracker since IRC isn't a To-do list either)
20120129 22:57:01< Aethaeryn> shadowm: they're not lost to time... when I'm at a breaking point in my add-on development, I'll grep #wesnoth-dev.log for < Aethaeryn> and reread my lines to make sure I didn't forget a bug, and then I'll write test cases that reproduce the bug so that they can actually be reproduced/fixed.
20120129 22:57:51< shadowm> They are lost to time if you get killed.
20120129 22:58:40< Aethaeryn> Yes.
20120129 22:58:46< shadowm> In the meantime, they are often only useful to you, which isn't exactly a proper usage of #wesnoth-dev either.
20120129 22:59:08< Aethaeryn> eh, not really... if someone else sees a more general case of it, it helps in the eventual report
20120129 22:59:38< shadowm> I said "often"
20120129 23:02:05< anonymissimus> Espreon: what do you mean ?
20120129 23:02:28< Espreon> anonymissimus: In many places, we have "LUA" instead of "Lua".
20120129 23:02:36< Espreon> ... which is just wrong and ugly.
20120129 23:03:09< anonymissimus> hm I thinks thats mostly where we set a variable
20120129 23:03:18< anonymissimus> or do you have another case ?
20120129 23:03:31< Espreon> Well, there's one instance in the test scenario.
20120129 23:03:52< anonymissimus> they could overwrite an already existing variable, so it seems sensible to give them an unusuak name
20120129 23:04:17< CIA-59> ivanovic * r52796 /branches/1.10/players_changelog: adjust url to branches/1.10/ instead of trunk/
20120129 23:05:18< Espreon> There are other ways of making them unusual.
20120129 23:06:17< Aethaeryn> shadowm: So yes, let's hope I don't die before I report the half a dozen bugs I'm probably discovering working with the Lua as deep as I am in MoD :-P
20120129 23:07:00< loonycyborg> shadowm: Hm.. gna's bug list still shows some bugs as assigned to suokko even though those bugs will be shown as assigned to nobody when opened.
20120129 23:07:35< shadowm> loonycyborg: yeah, because Ivanovic banished him
20120129 23:07:37< loonycyborg> And one filter on suokko as assignee, only as submitter.
20120129 23:07:54< loonycyborg> I remember, though this is definitely a gna bug
20120129 23:08:05< shadowm> similarly to silene's case (where silene banished himself), there are inconsistencies if the asignee ceases to be a member of the project
20120129 23:08:18< Ivanovic> shadowm: banning is the wrong word in this context, it was more like exorcism
20120129 23:08:36< Ivanovic> ;)
20120129 23:09:03< loonycyborg> *And one can't filter
20120129 23:09:16< shadowm> Ivanovic: I said "banishing", not banning
20120129 23:09:43< anonymissimus> Espreon: well, if you really need to then change the occurances of LUA into Lua, but do it all with auto-search & replace
20120129 23:09:49< shadowm> of course you might prefer "vanquishing" in that case
20120129 23:10:00< anonymissimus> an make sure to catch all references
20120129 23:10:58< loonycyborg> I've only found #10656, but this one isn't network related either.
20120129 23:10:59< anonymissimus> uh, what was the reason for the exorcism ?
20120129 23:11:03< shadowm> Ivanovic: if you've ever compiled Linux by yourself, though, you may have noticed suokkoisms in the description of the drm/radeon KMS option
20120129 23:11:29< shadowm> suokko *has* contributed a few patches to drm/radeon and xf86-video-ati, so beware :p
20120129 23:11:30< loonycyborg> All others are closed
20120129 23:11:43< Ivanovic> shadowm: i know that he contributed there
20120129 23:11:49< Ivanovic> and yeah, i compile my complete system
20120129 23:11:58< Ivanovic> (even libreoffice!)
20120129 23:12:00< Aethaeryn> Ivanovic: everything?
20120129 23:12:12< Aethaeryn> Ivanovic: even KDE?
20120129 23:12:13< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Compiling libreoffice is awesome :P
20120129 23:12:21< Ivanovic> Aethaeryn: the -bin packages in gentoo are too lame...
20120129 23:12:24< shadowm> so you may have vanquished the evil in Wesnoth, but not the evil in your system's kernel and X.org drivers :p
20120129 23:12:41< Aethaeryn> Ivanovic: how many days does it take to compile the newest KDE every major release?
20120129 23:12:45< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: emerge -e world takes less than 12h over here for the system with kde, libreoffice, firefox/thunderbird, ...
20120129 23:13:20< Aethaeryn> Ivanovic: how powerful is your cpu?
20120129 23:13:27< Ivanovic> Sysinfo for 'rechner1': Linux 3.2.1 running KDE Development Platform 4.8.00 (4.8.0, CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T at 800 MHz (5625 bogomips), HD: 343/1245GB, RAM: 5126/16061MB, 133 proc's, 2.53h up
20120129 23:13:47< Ivanovic> i'd say "strong enough for building"
20120129 23:13:50< Aethaeryn> on my 2.8 GHz quadcore desktop, I have no problem compiling things, but on my laptop I could never compile anything in a reasonable amount of time
20120129 23:14:05< Aethaeryn> 5625 bogomips... slightly better than mine
20120129 23:14:07< anonymissimus> were suokko's commits not good enough or what ?
20120129 23:14:14< Ivanovic> yeah, my core2duo 1.5GHz laptop needs a little longer for building
20120129 23:14:31< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: there was some *huge* breakage in *extremely* bad ways
20120129 23:14:43< loonycyborg> Compiling libreoffice used to take almost a day when I used a single-core celeron
20120129 23:14:50< loonycyborg> that is openoffice
20120129 23:15:30< Ivanovic> for some stuff the 10GB tmpfs in ram is already a decent help
20120129 23:15:54< Aethaeryn> According to "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep bogomips" most of my 8 "processors" are between 5599 and 5600
20120129 23:15:56< shadowm> Unmarked all Postponed bugs and feature erquests.
20120129 23:16:09< Ivanovic> shadowm: great! thanks!
20120129 23:16:16< Aethaeryn> loonycyborg: you could always compile on another machine for your slower machine
20120129 23:17:05< anonymissimus> hm is "git checkout 1.10" the way I'm supposed to do it ?
20120129 23:17:19< anonymissimus> seems I need to create it locally as well
20120129 23:17:23< fendrin> Is there a free hoster which offers phpbb forums?
20120129 23:17:30< Aethaeryn> fendrin: me
20120129 23:17:37< loonycyborg> However once I moved to 2GHz Athlon X3 compiling openoffice/libreoffice became alarmingly fast :P
20120129 23:17:41< shadowm> wesbot: seen deekay
20120129 23:17:41< wesbot> shadowm: Sorry, I don't know of deekay.
20120129 23:17:48< shadowm> wesbot: seen dragonking
20120129 23:17:48< wesbot> shadowm: Sorry, I don't know of dragonking.
20120129 23:17:55< fendrin> Aethaeryn: cool, can I have a section/subforum/forum/whatever for LoW?
20120129 23:17:56< Aethaeryn> fendrin: I host 3 very light phpbb forums related to the game I'm developing
20120129 23:18:04< Aethaeryn> I can easily get you a forum
20120129 23:18:50< Aethaeryn> fendrin: LoW?
20120129 23:18:50< fendrin> That would be very cool, our campaign feedback section is to flat for my taste, would love to have the possibility to make it more sophisticated.
20120129 23:18:51< shadowm> fendrin: there's absolutely no reason to host LoW-related facilities out of the main forum
20120129 23:18:57< ancestral> "Aethaeryn: Hmm, resizing the window from maximized to a small windowed causes all sorts of bugs if a dialog (e.g. F1) is up." see https://gna.org/bugs/?19237
20120129 23:19:22< Aethaeryn> shadowm: exactly why I don't report them before asking here first ^
20120129 23:19:26< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: When I checkout a branch I do 'git svn fetch' then 'git checkout remotes/1.8' or whatever
20120129 23:19:48< shadowm> Aethaeryn: we can mark them as Duplicates if necessary
20120129 23:20:03< ancestral> Although it doesn't specifically address full-to-windowed
20120129 23:20:05< shadowm> sometimes duplicate bugs can be even more useful than the originals
20120129 23:20:20< Aethaeryn> fendrin: I agree with shadowm... it's probably easiest to just get a subforum on Wesnoth rather than make your own
20120129 23:20:35< fendrin> Aethaeryn: I have already asked shadowm and he denied.
20120129 23:20:43< shadowm> no, you haven't.
20120129 23:20:48< shadowm> what did you ask again?
20120129 23:20:50< Aethaeryn> I mean, it's trivial for me to spin off new phpBB3 forums since I have a process down, but it's a lot of labor to maintain 
20120129 23:21:06< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: No idea whether it's the right way but seems to work
20120129 23:21:28< shadowm> loonycyborg: doesn't that check out the index in detached HEAD mode?
20120129 23:21:36< loonycyborg> git branch -a lists those remotes/ paths
20120129 23:22:00< Aethaeryn> It's not a lot of labor for me, it's a lot of labor for whoever actually runs the forums I host
20120129 23:22:02< loonycyborg> Yes., but you can make a tracking branch then
20120129 23:22:13< fendrin> shadowm: I would like to have subforums for the difficult levels and for the version the report is aimed at. I can organize that all by my self, just need the rights to configure subforums on my own, limited to the LoW section, if possible.
20120129 23:22:31< anonymissimus> shadowm: then what command do you use ?
20120129 23:22:37< shadowm> fendrin: Okay, that's new.
20120129 23:23:23< shadowm> anonymissimus: I don't remember (git checkout -b <local branch name> <refspec> maybe), it's been too long
20120129 23:23:41< shadowm> since I'm still stuck cleaning up the issue tracker a bit, I haven't had time to deal with the forking
20120129 23:23:48< anonymissimus> :)
20120129 23:24:16< shadowm> (i.e. delete the 1.8 tree, link 1.10, fix my fetch-and-rebase-everything script)
20120129 23:24:22< anonymissimus> ok hm so this detached head + creating a tracking branch is right ?
20120129 23:25:11< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: Like git branch --track 1.8 remotes/1.8 && git checkout 1.8
20120129 23:25:19< AI0867> zookeeper: does the sighted event work properly these days or is it still defective in a way that can't be fixed?
20120129 23:25:49< Aethaeryn> hmm
20120129 23:25:57< loonycyborg> iirc I something like this for asio_wesnothd branch
20120129 23:25:58< zookeeper> AI0867, i'm not sure
20120129 23:26:00< anonymissimus> AI0867: dont use it
20120129 23:26:14< anonymissimus> AI0867: it is very defective :|
20120129 23:26:18< Aethaeryn> While dissecting dialog code in 1.10.0+svn I got a warning about a feature that "will become mandatory in 1.9.7"
20120129 23:26:35< anonymissimus> AI0867: use ON_SIGHTING
20120129 23:27:33< loonycyborg> Anyway, I keep missing words which means I need to get some sleep :P
20120129 23:27:51< AI0867> anonymissimus: I was intending to deprecate the entire event in favor of using [filter_vision]
20120129 23:28:51< anonymissimus> AI0867: don't please; have you not yet heard of Crab's plan ?
20120129 23:29:02< anonymissimus> he intends to fix it in the long run
20120129 23:29:23< AI0867> I haven't
20120129 23:29:33< Aethaeryn> src/gui/auxiliary/window_builder.cpp "Will become mandatory in 1.9.7"
20120129 23:29:48< AI0867> in fact, I mistakenly marked an old bug as invalid because I had thought sighted had already been removed
20120129 23:29:55< anonymissimus> and those are not compatible anyway, and filter_vision seems to have some bugs as well
20120129 23:29:59< Aethaeryn> Line 419
20120129 23:30:04< AI0867> anonymissimus: where is ON_SIGHTING located?
20120129 23:30:08< Aethaeryn> Who manages window_builder.cpp?
20120129 23:30:12< anonymissimus> event-utils.cfg
20120129 23:30:30< Aethaeryn> Lines 416 to 422 were meant to be "removed for 1.9.7"
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20120129 23:48:15< CIA-59> anonymissimus * r52797 /trunk/changelog: 
20120129 23:48:15< CIA-59> changelog update for some coming revisions of mine
20120129 23:48:15< CIA-59> Also a check that I don't accidentally commit into 1.10.
20120129 23:49:53< shadowm> wesbot: seen Nephro
20120129 23:49:53< wesbot> shadowm: Sorry, I don't know of Nephro.
20120129 23:49:54< CIA-59> anonymissimus * r52798 /trunk/src/unit.hpp: Add comments describing ability getters.
20120129 23:50:28< shadowm> Ivanovic: Nephro was one of the GSoC 2011 students, right?
20120129 23:50:32< CIA-59> anonymissimus * r52799 /trunk/src/ (unit.hpp unit_abilities.cpp): 
20120129 23:50:32< CIA-59> Rename "ability" parameter to better match what the functions do.
20120129 23:50:32< CIA-59> Affects 2 versions of unit::get_ability_bool and 2 versions
20120129 23:50:32< CIA-59> of unit::get_abilities.
20120129 23:50:38< shadowm> Ivanovic: #19086 is currently assigned to him
20120129 23:50:50< CIA-59> anonymissimus * r52800 /trunk/src/ (game_events.cpp gamestatus.cpp gamestatus.hpp): 
20120129 23:50:50< CIA-59> Let event handlers of menu item commands have an id.
20120129 23:50:50< CIA-59> Unless both the menu item and its command tag didn't have an id.
20120129 23:50:50< CIA-59> Makes it possible to remove the resulting event handler
20120129 23:50:50< CIA-59> in the same way [event]remove=yes removes events.
20120129 23:50:50< CIA-59> Unless I'm badly mistaken, event handlers caused by a menu item's command
20120129 23:50:51< CIA-59> should already be unique, so no id collisions are expected.
20120129 23:51:12< CIA-59> anonymissimus * r52801 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: (log message trimmed)
20120129 23:51:12< CIA-59> new action tag: [clear_menu_item]
20120129 23:51:12< CIA-59> Removes a menu item from the right click menu, the according event
20120129 23:51:12< CIA-59> handler if it had a [command] tag, and from being saved in the savefile.
20120129 23:51:12< CIA-59> Does not touch manually added events of type "menu item x".
20120129 23:51:12< CIA-59> Menu items were automatically carried over between scenarios so far,
20120129 23:51:13< CIA-59> causing potential savefile bloat by accumulating over the course
20120129 23:51:43< CIA-59> anonymissimus * r52802 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: 
20120129 23:51:43< CIA-59> Swap order of calls in game_events::commit().
20120129 23:51:43< CIA-59> This should make it so that action wml from [set_menu_item]id=X[command]
20120129 23:51:43< CIA-59> is always executed after an [event]name=menu item X, even if
20120129 23:51:43< CIA-59> that event was added in the same event callstack as the set_menu_item
20120129 23:51:43< CIA-59> was called.
20120129 23:52:01< CIA-59> anonymissimus * r52803 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: 
20120129 23:52:01< CIA-59> Introduce [set_menu_item][command]delayed_variable_substitution=yes|no (def yes)
20120129 23:52:01< CIA-59> Allows to force a variable substitution run onto the command action wml,
20120129 23:52:01< CIA-59> just like it can be done for nested events.
20120129 23:52:18< CIA-59> anonymissimus * r52804 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: 
20120129 23:52:18< CIA-59> remove allow_undo child being added to [set_menu_item][command] tags
20120129 23:52:18< CIA-59> It is documented to have effect only in moveto event, not menu item X
20120129 23:52:18< CIA-59> events, and this matches the occurances of allow_undo in the codebase.
20120129 23:52:36< shadowm> wesbot: seen Sapient
20120129 23:52:36< wesbot> shadowm: The person with the nick Sapient last spoke 1d 3h ago.  1d 1h ago they left with the message: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204]
20120129 23:52:37< CIA-59> anonymissimus * r52805 /trunk/data/core/macros/ (deprecated-utils.cfg interface-utils.cfg): 
20120129 23:52:37< CIA-59> Deprecate the macro MESSAGE.
20120129 23:52:37< CIA-59> Translatable message strings passed to it cannot be spellchecked by
20120129 23:52:37< CIA-59> wmllint, and we don't wanna encourage this. Was already used nowhere in
20120129 23:52:37< CIA-59> mainline.
20120129 23:56:04< shadowm> Ivanovic: deassigned bugs from hajo, grzywacz, dragonking, baufo, jhinrichs, zaroth. Awaiting yor confirmation on Nephro.
20120129 23:56:17< anonymissimus> shadowm: you can assign that nephro bug to crab
20120129 23:56:33< anonymissimus> he did never respond to my initial assignment
20120129 23:56:40< shadowm> is there a specific reason? Are you sure Crab ill handle it?
20120129 23:57:00< anonymissimus> well, th reason is that is is an ai/lua ai problem
20120129 23:57:13< shadowm> As I said before, I'm not keen on assigning bugs to people without a strong reason to do so (especially people like Crab and mordante who have dozens of bugs assigned to them and very little time)
20120129 23:57:40< anonymissimus> well, then leave it unassigned
20120129 23:57:50< shadowm> (I've seen multiple mordante bugs which shouldn't be assigned to him, and in fact assigned a couple to myself today)
20120129 23:58:14< anonymissimus> perhaps the bug reporter can also submit a patch that fixes his issue, since he's pretty clever :)
20120129 23:59:15< shadowm> Ivanovic: #19086 is currently assigned to Nephro; that's why I was asking above (apparently I let this message behind in my input history)
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