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20120131 00:18:46< shadowm> Espreon: around?
20120131 00:19:04< vultraz> timotei: failed
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20120131 00:19:07< vultraz> :(
20120131 00:19:21< Espreon> shadowm: Yup.
20120131 00:19:51< shadowm> could you check the strings grammar/style here? http://shadowm.rewound.net/f/bug-7243.patch
20120131 00:23:00< Espreon> shadowm: "from an old unsupported" -> "from an old, unsupported"
20120131 00:24:56< fendrin> shadowm: Hi, can we talk about the feedback support forum again?
20120131 00:25:06< Espreon> shadowm: Also, I'm trying to replace "Do you want to" with "Do you wish to", so blargh. Other than that, it's fine.
20120131 00:25:07< shadowm> Espreon: anything else?
20120131 00:26:09< shadowm> fendrin: yes, I think I got sidetracked last night.
20120131 00:26:33< fendrin> No problem.
20120131 00:26:55< shadowm> The main problem I see with this is that phpBB was simply not designed for this particular usage.
20120131 00:26:56< Espreon> shadowm: Nah, everything else seems fine.
20120131 00:27:22< fendrin> Yes, agreed. It's not the best thing for that purpose.
20120131 00:28:26< fendrin> But the index thread approach is a pain in the ass for me. I need to link the 17 new posts with every new release. If they would split in difficult levels the amount of work will be even 3 times. 
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20120131 00:28:41< fendrin> higher
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20120131 00:29:49< fendrin> And mostly I would like to fore the player to think actively about the release and difficult level. There are often posts where I just can't know the circumstances of the report.
20120131 00:31:04< shadowm> right. But even without an index topic, you are segregating high amounts of information by means of separate topics. For any average Wesnoth campaign (even moreso for a long campaign like LoW) ,this will inevitably create a management issue for the content maintainer, and possibly confuse users
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20120131 00:31:47< shadowm> for example, if I were to post feedback on LoW scenario 1 to point out balancing issues in all three difficulties (and how they compare to each other), I'd have to post in three different topics and include pointers to my replies in each one of them
20120131 00:32:46< shadowm> (and with the current (legacy) system there's no way to post feedback addressing the whole campaign other than the topics in Scenario & Campaign Development → Mainline Campaign Development)
20120131 00:33:02< fendrin> Yes, I have already a plan for that.
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20120131 00:33:36< fendrin> There is a place to post more general feedback in my planned hierarchy.
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20120131 00:35:12< shadowm> Espreon: any opinions on the original string (which I didn't write, just to be clear) used for saves from an unsupported version? It seemed rather awkward to me.
20120131 00:35:32< shadowm> Espreon: also, what's with the "Do you want to" → "Do you wish to" thing?
20120131 00:35:42< shadowm> fendrin: what would that hierarchy be?
20120131 00:36:21< Espreon> shadowm: Yeah, the original string is a bit blargh.
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20120131 00:41:31< fendrin> Legend of Wesmere -> General Diskussion / Subforums for the Versions (SP 1.6/SP 1.8/SP 1.10 and MP 1.8, MP 1.10) / Subforum for each Scenario of the Campaign / General Diskussion of the Scenario (There would your feedback go into) / Subforums of subthreads for each difficult level.
20120131 00:41:49< fendrin> But that is only a rough draw.
20120131 00:42:00< fendrin> Will need to see how it looks and works out.
20120131 00:42:29< CIA-59> shadowmaster * r52829 /trunk/ (changelog src/savegame.cpp): 
20120131 00:42:29< CIA-59> Display the savegame version when warning the user about unsupported or mismatched versions (bug #7243)
20120131 00:42:29< CIA-59> Along the way, made the unsupported case use the GUI2 error message
20120131 00:42:29< CIA-59> dialog instead of the generic message dialog, and gave the mismatched
20120131 00:42:29< CIA-59> version case prompt a title label.
20120131 00:42:35< shadowm> I'd rather have all mainline campaigns use a unique scheme, really, because that makes everything easier from a forum management (and moderation!) standpoint.
20120131 00:42:58< shadowm> As I said, I don't think different topics for each difficulty level are the way to go (from a user standpoint).
20120131 00:44:54< fendrin> Well, you don't remember but we both discussed that exactly in this channel half or a year ago. I think the words are even very similar like before. 
20120131 00:46:18< fendrin> Thus I hope you don't mind if I drop out of the discussion because I already know the story.
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20120131 00:47:30< shadowm> My memory is terribly fragile, but yeah, I guess my opinions dont change that quickly. :p
20120131 00:47:36< shadowm> *don't
20120131 00:49:10< fendrin> I guessed so as well.
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20120131 00:50:03< anonymissimus> gabba: could you pls make your --username patch public ? I will find that useful I guess
20120131 00:50:20< anonymissimus> when testing my mp addon and such
20120131 00:50:53< anonymissimus> that is, don't commit of course, just so that people who can compile can use it
20120131 00:50:58< gabba> anonymissimus: Sure, I can post it to the tracker as a WIP
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20120131 00:51:23< anonymissimus> ir perhaps this could be enabled by a preprocessor def ?
20120131 00:51:24< shadowm> Let me guess: that's for changing the MP username in the command line overriding previously saved preferences?
20120131 00:51:44< gabba> shadowm yeah
20120131 00:51:51< anonymissimus> which is normally not enabled
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20120131 00:52:19< shadowm> I don't see why that shouldn't be made into a proper command line option enabled inconditionally.
20120131 00:52:26< gabba> I implemented it but didn't have time to deal with the whole command-line help and manual and what not... and we were in feature/string freeze
20120131 00:52:34< shadowm> *un
20120131 00:52:37< anonymissimus> or, if there aren't issues with it - is there something against enabling it in geenral ?
20120131 00:52:59 * anonymissimus repeats shadowm
20120131 00:53:26< gabba> Well, it works great for me, I can launch the server and 4 test clients with a single script
20120131 00:53:41< anonymissimus> yup thats nice
20120131 00:53:47< gabba> The only thing I'm not sure about is that I disable all preferences saving when using that option
20120131 00:54:03< gabba> Otherwise each client that starts overwrites your default username
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20120131 00:55:23< fendrin> wesbot: seen beatlenaut?
20120131 00:55:23< wesbot> fendrin: Sorry, I don't know of beatlenaut.
20120131 00:55:23< gabba> anonymissimus, shadowm: I'll upload it as a patch and ask for a review I guess, later tonight or tomorrow
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20120131 00:56:33< shadowm> command-line help and command-line parsing are much more tight-knit functionality nowadays, I think
20120131 00:57:00< shadowm> or I thought that was part of the point of zaroth's refactoring anyway
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20120131 01:00:39< anonymissimus> yes he did
20120131 01:00:52< anonymissimus> the boost.program_options stuff seems ncie
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20120131 01:25:25< shadowm> happygrue: https://gna.org/bugs/?19353 should I assign this to you or look for someone else?
20120131 01:26:30< shadowm> (although odds are this can't be done on 1.10, since that would cause clients to treat it as a "remote scenario" IIRC)
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20120131 01:34:16< shadowm> wesbot: seen kernigh
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20120131 01:37:03< CIA-59> shadowmaster * r52830 /trunk/src/sha1.cpp: Improve SHA1 digest computation correctness (patch from bug #19312)
20120131 01:37:25< Espreon> Yay.
20120131 01:42:25< fendrin> Ivanovic: You submitted the update to happypenguin.org without an actual screenshot.
20120131 01:45:13< shadowm> anonymissimus: would this be for you? https://gna.org/patch/index.php?3091
20120131 01:45:44< shadowm> how many pathces has exasperation contributed again?
20120131 01:49:58< Espreon> (Just let him in already...®)
20120131 01:59:48< happygrue> shadowm: me, thanks
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20120131 04:11:27< Espreon> Ivanovic: http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/snowhawkyrf-tt/6793217511/sizes/m/ ... Looks like the stuff in fonts.cfg isn't set up right.
20120131 04:12:08< shadowm> the forum topic: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=36012
20120131 04:13:35< Espreon> Hmmmmm...
20120131 04:13:45< Espreon> ... perhaps it's just a Windows problem or whatever.
20120131 04:14:00< Espreon> 'Cause Chinese characters render fine in GUI1 stuff over here.
20120131 04:14:08< shadowm> he said Ubuntu 11.10
20120131 04:14:12< Espreon> Ah.
20120131 04:14:27< Espreon> Well, then God knows WTF the problem is.
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20120131 04:40:07< shadowm> Soliton: would it make sense to set Quick Replays in the MP lobby config to default to enabled from now on? There doesn't seem to be much use for most people to watch lengthy move-by-move animations when joining a game that's potentially well past its second turn.
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20120131 04:41:03< Espreon> Awww... Ctrl+a doesn't select all in the Login dialog...
20120131 04:42:11< shadowm> yeah, it's will known that much functionality found in standard toolkits like Gtk+ and Qt is missing in GUI1 and GUI2
20120131 04:42:16< shadowm> *well
20120131 04:42:44< Espreon> ... Blllllllllllllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh....
20120131 04:43:10< shadowm> that sounds very bad. What happened now?
20120131 04:43:12< Espreon> OK, we need to set up the Million-dollar Mordante Fund... like nao.
20120131 04:43:25< ancestral> Kinda rolls off the tongue
20120131 04:44:38< shadowm> Espreon: there are exactly two UI strings using "do you wish to" in the C++
20120131 04:44:55< shadowm> one of them was introduced today. What gives? 
20120131 04:45:17< Espreon> It's called me being lazy.
20120131 04:45:34< Espreon> Very... lazy...
20120131 04:45:47< shadowm> I don't like fighting uphill battles, so you might want to address that yourself from now on.
20120131 04:46:06< shadowm> I'm going to convert another dialog soonish, and I'll keep the current format in it ("do you want to").
20120131 04:46:13< Espreon> Fine... I'll deal with them next Tuesday.
20120131 04:46:39< shadowm> (this is far less obvious than the capitalization inconsistencies)
20120131 04:48:00< shadowm> Although... the dialog in question is a huge stylistic issue all by itself.
20120131 04:48:36< shadowm> (Again, http://shadowm.ai0867.net/wesnothd-prompt.png; notice the title is really a sentence that should be in the message itself)
20120131 04:50:41< Espreon> Blargh, the checkbox is uncomfortably close to the text.
20120131 04:50:55< shadowm> I know, and of course that will be fixed in the GUI2 rewrite
20120131 04:51:15< shadowm> it's absurdly trivial to fix it with GUI2
20120131 04:53:04< Espreon> The whole world will be fixed after the GUI2 rewrite's done.
20120131 04:54:01< ancestral> Espreon: When 2.0 comes out?
20120131 04:54:11< shadowm> Fine. I'll go with "A local server instance has to be started in order to host a networked game. The server will run as a background process until all users have disconnected. Do you wish to continue?"
20120131 04:54:43< shadowm> (the current message is "The server will run in a background process until all users have disconnected."; the title has the question, which is one of the stylistic problems with the current version)
20120131 04:55:13< Espreon> ancestral: Sure, why not?
20120131 04:55:18< shadowm> It could also be "Do you wish to proceed?", but I'm not sure how common "proceed" is in UI strings.
20120131 04:56:34< ancestral> shadowm: IMO "proceed" seems a little more technical in nature, where "continue" is a bit more "humble" or "accessible" 
20120131 04:56:52< ancestral> So I support your choice
20120131 04:57:01< ancestral> (not that I count for much ;-) )
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20120131 04:57:37< shadowm> Any native English speaker (unles they are obvious txtspk-kiddies) is bound to have a better judgement than myself for this kind of business. I think. I hope.
20120131 04:58:40< shadowm> Interestingly, I've come to the realization that I don't pay much attention to UI strings in other applications, only visuals.
20120131 04:59:33< shadowm> (Not that the FOSS community is a good and consistent reference for anything, anyway.)
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20120131 05:06:09< CIA-59> shadowmaster * r52831 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/game_delete.cfg: 
20120131 05:06:09< CIA-59> gui2/tgame_delete: Removed some unusual geometry specifications
20120131 05:06:09< CIA-59> * A "spacer label" which is really not required (standard borders
20120131 05:06:09< CIA-59> should be enough to make the dialog look nice)
20120131 05:06:09< CIA-59> * A right-aligned checkbox, which should really be left-aligned
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20120131 05:07:11< shadowm> Espreon: which is more preferable, by the way? a checkbox label reading "Don't ask me again!" (ugh), or one reading "Don't show again"?
20120131 05:07:42< shadowm> tgame_delete happens to have the former
20120131 05:08:13< Espreon> Seems... too... churlish.
20120131 05:09:34< shadowm> then?
20120131 05:10:12< Espreon> Go for the latter.
20120131 05:10:41< Espreon> I'll expand the contraction next Tuesday.
20120131 05:11:51< shadowm> "Don't" needs to be expanded??
20120131 05:12:31< shadowm> well, I guess there aren't any other standard contractions in use elsewhere
20120131 05:12:35< Espreon> Uh... jeß jeß....
20120131 05:12:38< Espreon> Yeah.
20120131 05:16:59< CIA-59> shadowmaster * r52832 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/game_delete.cfg: 
20120131 05:16:59< CIA-59> gui2/tgame_delete: Use more standard (i.e. tmessage) geometry specifications for the action buttons for now
20120131 05:16:59< CIA-59> This aligns the action buttons at the center of the bottom row instead
20120131 05:16:59< CIA-59> of aligning them to the right along with some extra padding (!) at the
20120131 05:16:59< CIA-59> left.
20120131 05:17:00< CIA-59> It isn't clear to me whether this is the most appropriate layout, but
20120131 05:17:01< CIA-59> it's used in other standard GUI2 message/prompt dialogs.
20120131 05:17:09< CIA-59> shadowmaster * r52833 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): gui: Use "Do not show again" instead of "Don't show again" or "Don't ask me again!"
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20120131 05:43:51< CIA-59> shadowmaster * r52834 /trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): gui2/tmp_host_game_prompt: Converted the initial Host Networked Game/wesnothd launch prompt to GUI2
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20120131 06:28:36< shadowm> mordante: it's spelled "focused", not "focussed". Unfortunately, you've exposed API through GUI2 WML with this typo.
20120131 06:30:11< shadowm> Of course no-one can fix that at this point without breaking who knows what.
20120131 06:30:42< Espreon> shadowm: fgrep... EVERYTHING
20120131 06:30:55< shadowm> I already did that, hence the complaint.
20120131 06:31:46< shadowm> I work on GUI client code, not on the framework, so fixing that problem (if it is so desired) isn't within my area of competence.
20120131 06:33:39< Espreon> It *is* desired.
20120131 06:33:50< CIA-59> shadowmaster * r52835 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/campaign_dialog.cfg: gui2/tcampaign_dialog: convert dialog title label to Title Case
20120131 06:34:33< shadowm> By the way, I am aware that several add-on manager-related dialogs suffer from Sentence case titles. No need to point that out; I expect to be able to run them over with a steamroller before 1.11.0, so any inconsistencies like that will either disappear or be replaced with new ones.
20120131 06:34:39< shadowm> The network transfer dialog, though, is loonycyborg's responsibility.
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20120131 06:50:54< shadowm> mordante: I think I (and future maintainers) could use some comments in the titlescreen layout WML explaining some of the seemingly arbitrary numbers. I might also be interested in learning the purpose of the stacked_widget in use there.
20120131 06:51:34< shadowm> I have been trying to rearrange part of the layout to make the version number display on the bottom left corner as in 1.8, but it insists on breaking on low resolutions
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20120131 07:40:04< shadowm> Ivanovic: don't you think it would be more productive to call for help with the screenshots in a public forum, anyway?
20120131 07:40:08< shadowm> same for the wiki
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20120131 07:50:05< vultraz> shadowm: crend said there was a wiki screenshot he'd like to update but couldn't upload a new one
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20120131 08:06:00< shadowm> vultraz: tell him to ask Ivanovic. I doubt I have the required access there.
20120131 08:06:30< shadowm> that is, when I tried to help artisticdude with tutorial pics, I stumbled upon directories owned by jetrel
20120131 08:07:05< shadowm> okay, images/sshots/ is a place to which I can write, but tell him to ask Ivanovic anyway :p
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20120131 08:26:55< vultraz> ok
20120131 08:27:40< vultraz> relevant pic is the one of the map editor on the main create page, BTW
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20120131 08:36:33< timotei> vultraz: morning
20120131 08:37:30< timotei> vultraz: will do a cmake compiling soon and will let you know how it worked
20120131 08:40:44< vultraz> mk
20120131 08:41:01< vultraz> I'm gonna try setting the arc var in cmake to i686 and see what happens
20120131 08:41:10< timotei> Ok.
20120131 08:41:22< timotei> vultraz: what was the reason for not compiling in XCode anyway?
20120131 08:42:41< timotei> vultraz: was that the issue that XCode crashed when opening the wesnoth project?
20120131 08:45:43< vultraz> no, the builds crashed when loading title screen
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20120131 08:46:18< vultraz> humm
20120131 08:46:22< vultraz> http://pastebin.com/1rbhpMq6
20120131 08:46:25< vultraz> just got that
20120131 08:46:31< vultraz> timotei: ^
20120131 08:46:45< timotei> Ok, now we're talking :D
20120131 08:47:12< shadowm> really sounds like you are trying to compile for the wrong architecture
20120131 08:47:53< shadowm> or your compiler is crazy
20120131 08:48:46< timotei> vultraz: that's weird.
20120131 08:49:00< timotei> vultraz: try adding to CXXFlags: -msse -mmmx
20120131 08:50:11< vultraz> humm
20120131 08:50:50< vultraz> went back and did cmake ../, not error doesn't come up
20120131 08:50:58< timotei> lol
20120131 08:51:17< vultraz> (forgot to do it before that make, maybe that was the prob lol)
20120131 08:52:36< vultraz> actually...scratch that....it's back :S
20120131 08:52:43< vultraz> adding flags
20120131 08:52:45< timotei> Add -msse and -mmmx
20120131 08:59:40< vultraz> ok, comes up but it's half as long now
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20120131 09:00:17< timotei> vultraz: ? you still got the error?
20120131 09:00:25< timotei> There were some more besides the SSE stuff
20120131 09:00:29< vultraz> yes http://pastebin.com/Z7sxAJhZ
20120131 09:00:55< vultraz> some of it has disappeared, though
20120131 09:01:02< timotei> Yeah
20120131 09:01:08< timotei> Hold on to check the latest ones
20120131 09:01:10< vultraz> so at least a little progress's been made lol
20120131 09:01:37< vultraz> BTW it refs carboncore
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20120131 09:01:44< vultraz> don't we want cocoa?
20120131 09:01:51< timotei> Hmm
20120131 09:01:56< timotei> Lol
20120131 09:02:10< timotei> Carbon? Why does it reference
20120131 09:02:15< timotei> Of couse we want cocoa :|
20120131 09:02:22< ancestral> It doesn't matter
20120131 09:02:35< ancestral> At this point anyway
20120131 09:03:49< vultraz> ahh
20120131 09:04:25< timotei> Well, it seems that clipboard.cpp includes it
20120131 09:04:30< timotei> hm
20120131 09:04:43< vultraz> brb
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20120131 09:14:00< vultraz> back
20120131 09:14:09< vultraz> timotei: any ideas?
20120131 09:14:32< timotei> vultraz: I'm compiling some libs now with macports
20120131 09:14:40< timotei> need to get SDL first :D
20120131 09:14:51< timotei> I do hope there's a better idea than to compile boost myself
20120131 09:15:52< shadowm> timotei: if you are going to use Boost 1.48, you may need to apply a certain patch
20120131 09:16:24< timotei> shadowm: wesnoth specific?
20120131 09:16:34< shadowm> hopefully vultraz still has the link, because I'm too lazy to go and dig it up
20120131 09:16:40< timotei> np
20120131 09:16:58< shadowm> yes, it's necessary for Wesnoth to compile at all with Boost 1.48.0 from what I gather
20120131 09:17:06< shadowm> the patch is for Boost, not Wesnoth
20120131 09:18:32< shadowm> https://svn.boost.org/trac/boost/changeset/75540?format=diff&new=75540
20120131 09:18:49< timotei> Thanks
20120131 09:19:02< timotei> Ah, foreach stuff
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20120131 09:23:03< timotei> Grrrr
20120131 09:23:12< timotei> I don't like macports. It really has to compile even PYTHON>
20120131 09:23:13< timotei> ..........
20120131 09:24:26< vultraz> well, try fink, and you'll love MacPorts ;)
20120131 09:24:42< timotei> :P
20120131 09:25:40< shadowm> thanks for reminding me the tertiary reason I'm never using a Mac.
20120131 09:25:53< timotei> shadowm: ?
20120131 09:25:55< vultraz> XD
20120131 09:26:49< shadowm> the great difficulty involved in setting up a development environment
20120131 09:27:08< shadowm> (the primary reason is the hardware cost and the secondary reason is the crazy fanbase)
20120131 09:27:18< timotei> Well, it's certainly easier than on a windows.
20120131 09:27:32< timotei> I think this is more like a gentoo without binary repos :P
20120131 09:27:39< timotei> Macports, that is
20120131 09:27:50< vultraz> binary repos?
20120131 09:28:03< timotei> Yeah, precompiled stuff :)
20120131 09:28:15< vultraz> ah
20120131 09:28:17< vultraz> lol
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20120131 09:31:15< timotei> shadowm: and just saying "sudo port install pango cairo libsdl gettext" is the same as saying "sudo apt-get install ..."
20120131 09:31:16< timotei> ;)
20120131 09:31:35< timotei> I don't see where's that "difficulty invovled in setting up a development environment"
20120131 09:31:45< timotei> It's UNIX at it's core, just like Linux :)
20120131 09:32:16< timotei> If I were to say, it's the best and coolest, user-friendly-est UNIX variant. Even more than Ubuntu
20120131 09:33:05< shadowm> sudo apt-get build-dep wesnoth-1.9
20120131 09:33:26< timotei> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
20120131 09:33:27< timotei> :D
20120131 09:33:29< shadowm> (thanks to Rhonda, of course)
20120131 09:33:33< timotei> I have an idea
20120131 09:33:54< shadowm> and yeah, sorry, but I don't use Ubuntu.
20120131 09:35:59< timotei> Heh, macports has the same
20120131 09:36:03< timotei> port deps wesnoth :)
20120131 09:36:08< timotei> Of course, it's just wesnoth 1.8 :(
20120131 09:36:46< shadowm> It's not too hard to figure ot the deps for 1.9.
20120131 09:37:00< shadowm> I mean 1.10 and current trunk. Ugh.
20120131 09:37:28< shadowm> Just add Boost.asio and Boost.system and Boost.kitchensink to the mix.
20120131 09:37:36< timotei> https://trac.macports.org/browser/trunk/dports/games/wesnoth/Portfile
20120131 09:37:38< timotei> Heh...
20120131 09:37:41< Rhonda> timotei: sudo port install?  wtf.  fink install FTW!
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20120131 09:38:05< Rhonda> shadowm: sudo fink build-dep wesnoth-whatever-they-call-it-there
20120131 09:38:13< timotei> :D
20120131 09:38:27< Rhonda> fink is apt for osx
20120131 09:38:39< Rhonda> port is … well, portage stuff from bsd
20120131 09:40:00< timotei> Rhonda: ports is more up-to-date than fink unfortunately :(
20120131 09:40:14 * shadowm forgot Boost.program_options
20120131 09:41:25< shadowm> Of course, people with better Internet connection/more time (if compiling from source) would probably be better installing all of Boost because of our notorious tendency to slip new dependencies each cycle.
20120131 09:41:31< shadowm> Crendgrim: hey, vultraz told me you wanted some screenshot(s) uploaded to wesnoth.org
20120131 09:42:37< Crendgrim> shadowm: well, there are some really outdated screens
20120131 09:43:44< shadowm> I told him to tell you to ask Ivanovic since I'm too lazy/he knows better how to organize that stuff.
20120131 09:44:00< Crendgrim> alright. thanks
20120131 09:44:39< vultraz> ahh
20120131 09:44:41< vultraz> gtg
20120131 09:44:42< vultraz> bbl
20120131 09:44:47< Crendgrim> (well... kind of weird situation... vultraz tells me about outdated screenshots, I say I know the problem, and now you are telling me that I should ask Ivanovic .. :D )
20120131 09:44:48< vultraz> +/- 2 hrs
20120131 09:45:07< shadowm> er
20120131 09:45:32< shadowm> well, he implied you needed to upload something
20120131 09:45:33< shadowm> 03:50:05 <vultraz> shadowm: crend said there was a wiki screenshot he'd like to update but couldn't upload a new one
20120131 09:46:33< Crendgrim> actually ... the only new screenshot I know of is from vultraz :D
20120131 09:48:08< shadowm> ooooookay
20120131 09:48:53< shadowm> vultraz: just to be clear, you are not Crendgrim. You are definitely not as good as him on MP.
20120131 09:49:17< shadowm> I have replays proving that.
20120131 09:49:27< Crendgrim> I never played against him...
20120131 09:49:48< Crendgrim> I only played *with* him, and he was far more effective than me.
20120131 09:49:57< shadowm> well, no, but I have heard you are pretty good from a just slightly questionable source
20120131 09:49:58< Crendgrim> (except for that stupid leader thing, of course)
20120131 09:50:14< Crendgrim> who do you mean? Pete? :p
20120131 09:50:17< shadowm> yes
20120131 09:50:28< shadowm> and well, I think I've beaten vultraz on 1v1 in every opportunity (twice)
20120131 09:51:46< Crendgrim> anyways, what does that matter here?
20120131 09:52:07< shadowm> I felt the need to remind him that he's not you
20120131 09:52:16< Crendgrim> ah.
20120131 09:52:22< shadowm> since he apparently thought you were the one with the screenshot request
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20120131 10:14:39< Ivanovic> moin
20120131 10:17:28< Ivanovic> Espreon: have you told Rhonda about http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/snowhawkyrf-tt/6793217511/sizes/m/
20120131 10:17:35< Ivanovic> that is: this being a problem on ubuntu
20120131 10:17:50< shadowm> Ivanovic: wrong PPA, see the forum post
20120131 10:19:36< Rhonda> Ivanovic: how to contact that person?
20120131 10:19:54< Rhonda> shadowm: you mean that was with a wesnoth 1.10 from some PPA?
20120131 10:19:59< shadowm> yes: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=519803#p519803
20120131 10:20:10< Rhonda> then I dont mind
20120131 10:21:28< Ivanovic> okay, added a more verbose explaination why this PPA actually is at fault
20120131 10:25:27< Rhonda> hmm, looks like vincent-c took the package from debian unstable to prepare that PPA
20120131 10:26:06< shadowm> Rhonda: ah, right. I believe Gambit once pointed out that your seldom-seen forum signature has colors, which we apparently don't allow ( http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=24277#w0sigcolors ).
20120131 10:27:18< Rhonda> if its not allowed, why dont disable it there
20120131 10:27:32< Rhonda> first time it is pointed out to me
20120131 10:27:40< shadowm> I don't think I can do that without patching the software.
20120131 10:28:01< shadowm> yeah, can't.
20120131 10:28:39< Rhonda> are pictures allowed in forum signatures?
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20120131 10:28:58< shadowm> nope, and that is disabled in the software
20120131 10:29:27< Rhonda> k
20120131 10:30:00< Rhonda> not that I want to put one there, mind you. just, if they were allowed, the color ban would be arbitrary :)
20120131 10:30:27< Rhonda> and I really would love to have wesnoth.org/forum/ instead of forums.wesnoth.org
20120131 10:31:31< Rhonda> changed
20120131 10:32:30< shadowm> well, I'm not sure what would be gained with such a change (https?)
20120131 10:32:39< Rhonda> hmm, if color is not allowed in regular posts, then I would expect some global disabling of the color tag to be possible
20120131 10:32:55< Rhonda> yes, https
20120131 10:33:13< shadowm> colors are allowed in regular posts where they make sense (to-do lists, moderator actions, etc.)
20120131 10:33:18< Rhonda> sending login credential over unencryped channels should stop
20120131 10:33:27< Rhonda> "Colors (#) are not allowed in signatures just like in regular posts.
20120131 10:33:32< Rhonda> "just like" doesn
20120131 10:33:37< Rhonda> "just like" doesn't sound so
20120131 10:35:34< shadowm> Point 1d above explains they are reserved for forum moderators (in posts, anyway, not signatures); I might consider rewording various point later this year to make clear which ones are guidelines and which ones are hard rules
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20120131 10:37:04< shadowm> anyway, I'm open to changing forums.wesnoth.org back to get secure connections, although that'll need to wait for later today/tomorrow
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20120131 10:38:37< shadowm> incidentally, for https://wesnoth.org Firefox claims "This website does not supply ownership information" -- since I know nothing about these things I don't really know what it's supposed t omean
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20120131 10:51:33< Crendgrim> is anywhere a proper documentation for wesnoth.set_dialog_value ? (Lua)
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20120131 11:39:53< Soliton> shadowm: i suppose. i don't mind either way.
20120131 11:40:42< Ivanovic> Soliton: have you already started a dedicated server for recent trunk (1.11.0-svn)
20120131 11:40:58< Ivanovic> and updated the 1.8.x motd to mention 1.10.0?
20120131 11:41:43< Soliton> maybe.
20120131 11:42:07< Ivanovic> and do you know how to best start a new addon server (and do so for the new dev series on a new port)
20120131 11:42:15< Soliton> i need some more free time to make a proper transition to 1.10 and 1.11.
20120131 11:42:28 * Ivanovic gifts Soliton with some more free time
20120131 11:42:30< Ivanovic> ;)
20120131 11:42:39< Ivanovic> Soliton: no need to hurry (extremely)
20120131 11:42:50< Soliton> yeah, i can do campaignd, too.
20120131 11:43:03< Ivanovic> it won't matter too much if trunk has no working MP for the moment and if the addon server is only started in maybe a month
20120131 11:43:14< Ivanovic> it will be several month until the first release of 1.11.x is out
20120131 11:43:16< Soliton> should be a matter of stopping an old one and reusing its port.
20120131 11:43:30< Ivanovic> which old one do you mean?
20120131 11:43:49< Ivanovic> trunk was using the 1.9.x addon server which has now become the 1.9.x/1.10.x addon server
20120131 11:43:52< Soliton> whichever is the oldest campaignd version.
20120131 11:45:56< Soliton> i've already made a checkout for the 1.10 branch btw.
20120131 11:46:01< Ivanovic> i know
20120131 11:46:07< Ivanovic> and this is already updated and used for g.w.o
20120131 11:46:46< Soliton> alright. well, i'll have some free time this weekend the latest, i hope.
20120131 11:46:58< Ivanovic> would be great if you already had a look at stuff then
20120131 11:47:11< Ivanovic> like i said, no reason to hurry, just something that should eventually be done
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20120131 14:51:56< Kolbur> hello
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20120131 14:53:34< Kolbur> is it intentional that the northern attack animations are missing for clashers?
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20120131 15:20:59< Alarantalara> timotei: the Carbon dependency is entirely in filesystem.cpp. It shouldn't be too hard to remove it
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20120131 15:44:41< Ivanovic> Gambit: regarding the deusura package: usually loonycyborg uploads the windows binary <=2h after i tag
20120131 15:44:52< Gambit> Yep
20120131 15:45:01< Ivanovic> the time i tag is usuallly well known in advance, so you can at least start the desura process before a new release is announced
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20120131 15:47:01< lipk> Ivanovic: the wiki copyright hasn't been updated to 2012 yet
20120131 15:47:20< Ivanovic> no idea how/where to do this
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20120131 15:48:21< Crendgrim> Crab____: ^ do you know that?
20120131 15:56:49< lipk> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LocalSettings.php#Setting_copyright_for_the_site
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20120131 17:00:42 * Soliton updated the wiki copyright.
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20120131 17:47:56< fendrin> hi Crab____
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20120131 18:11:45< anonymissimus> shadowm: alright
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20120131 18:12:00< anonymissimus> Crendgrim: isn't it in the wiki ?
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20120131 18:12:17< anonymissimus> kolbur: supposedly nto worth a bug report
20120131 18:12:32< anonymissimus> someone just needs to make those animations
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20120131 18:32:19< Crendgrim> anonymissimus: yes, found it.
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20120131 18:54:49< mordante> servus
20120131 18:55:27< mordante> shadowm, focussed is not a typo, it's correct English
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20120131 18:56:28< Gambit_> We don't use British English mordante
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20120131 18:57:05< mordante> Gambit_, that has never been the policy and when I joined the project we had a lot of British English in the code
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20120131 18:58:13< mordante> later Espreon started to convert the WML code, but that was after I used focussed
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20120131 19:00:10< mordante> so at the time I used focussed it was common to use British and not a typo
20120131 19:01:57< mordante> shadowm, I don't have much time today, better ask me the questions about the title screen another time
20120131 19:08:00< timotei> Something to relax a bit the atmosphere: http://stories-etc.com/queen.htm
20120131 19:08:01< timotei> xD
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20120131 19:08:57< anonymissimus> hm at some spot esr created wmllint and thus started to force AE spelling upon wml
20120131 19:09:38< anonymissimus> and Gambit just extends this upon your spellings in the source code or where it is ;)
20120131 19:10:34< mordante> well I just get annoyed if people start to complain I make silly errors in English when it's valid English
20120131 19:11:18< mordante> nice one timotei 
20120131 19:12:29< timotei> mordante: the one I like most is the one with football xD
20120131 19:14:10< mordante> I like the JFK one a lot
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20120131 19:28:59< shadowm> just noting that the original developer (Dave) was American
20120131 19:29:38< shadowm> of course people later joined and there has never been very clear policies on matters like this; well, that's why we have Espreon now I guess
20120131 19:31:09< shadowm> Ivanovic: I thought trunk has always used its own MP server for non-release versions.
20120131 19:31:47< shadowm> that is, I was testing something last night and I ended up in the trunk instance as expected
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20120131 20:09:34< Ivanovic> shadowm: yes, trunk is supposed to have a server of its own
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20120131 20:09:50< Ivanovic> shadowm: though right after the start of a new stable series it might not have been started yet
20120131 20:10:01< Ivanovic> regarding Dave: actually he is not american but australian...
20120131 20:11:00< shadowm> ah, right
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20120131 20:11:06< shadowm> what English do they speak in Australia? :p
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20120131 20:13:44< shadowm> in any case, I think even before 1.2 a British English translation was created, implying that the user interface and WML translatable strings in general were meant to be in some other English, presumably American
20120131 20:15:05< shadowm> of course, it's not like esr himself stays consistent on that rule ("sceptre", "dialogue", "epilogue", etc.)
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20120131 20:19:59< timotei21> shadowm: afair Australia was owned by the Great Britain before.
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20120131 20:20:50< Elvish_Hunter> Hi all
20120131 20:21:34< timotei21> shadowm: "As a result of the growth of the British Empire, English was adopted in North America, India, Africa, Australia"
20120131 20:21:37< timotei21> cf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language
20120131 20:21:42< shadowm> timotei21: not news to me. I can tell by their flag.
20120131 20:21:49< timotei21> Yeah xD
20120131 20:22:11< Elvish_Hunter> Now that trunk is open again, I thought of taking care of this proposal: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=35950
20120131 20:22:44< Elvish_Hunter> My idea is to add support for two new extra_defines, ENABLE_TROLL_SHAMAN and ENABLE_WOLF_ADVANCEMENT.
20120131 20:22:50< mordante> shadowm, in fact he lived in Australia
20120131 20:22:54< Elvish_Hunter> Any opinion?
20120131 20:23:16< vultraz> timotei21: yeah I got pangocairo
20120131 20:23:26< mordante> shadowm, the point is you tell me I make English errors, while at the time there was no policy on which English dialect
20120131 20:23:34< timotei21> vultraz: with macports? Or compiled it from sources?
20120131 20:23:45< mordante> shadowm, so please be correct and don't call it a typo, since it's not a typo
20120131 20:24:00< vultraz> first Cairo, than Pango seemed to do it
20120131 20:24:05< vultraz> then*
20120131 20:24:19< timotei21> vultraz: ... Yeah, I guess I switched the order xD
20120131 20:24:37< timotei21> vultraz: Ok, I'll try and remove them 
20120131 20:24:44< timotei21> And reinstall in the correct order
20120131 20:24:58< mordante> shadowm, in Australia it seems focussed is the word to use http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/focussed ;-)
20120131 20:26:12< shadowm> yes, I imagine Australian English didn't evolve following the same path as American English
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20120131 20:27:00< CIA-59> shadowmaster * r52839 /trunk/ (changelog src/game_preferences.cpp): 
20120131 20:27:00< CIA-59> Revert "Make Quick replays in MP default to enabled"; I may have failed to consider a particular use case
20120131 20:27:00< CIA-59> This reverts commit r52838.
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20120131 20:30:36< shadowm> mordante: do you think you have time to explain what's the purpose of helptips?
20120131 20:31:14< shadowm> as I understand they are extended tooltips activated on demand by a specific user-defined hotkey?
20120131 20:31:37< mordante> shadowm, yup
20120131 20:32:57< shadowm> okay. I think Ivanovic was wondering about that the other day too. They don't seem to be used anywhere in mainline atm.
20120131 20:33:16< mordante> might be GUI2 is still not finished :-(
20120131 20:33:32< shadowm> data/gui/default.cfg has a specific has_helptip_message definition that is not marked as translatable atm for some reason
20120131 20:36:09< mordante> true at the moment the string is only used in the debug clock with is entirely debug only
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20120131 21:05:50< vultraz> timotei21: got pangcairo?
20120131 21:05:55< vultraz> pango*
20120131 21:08:04< timotei21> vultraz: not... yet
20120131 21:08:16< vultraz> ahh
20120131 21:08:16< timotei21> I've uninstalled pango and cairo, install cairo then pango but nothing yet
20120131 21:08:20< timotei21> atm building boost
20120131 21:08:25< vultraz> lol
20120131 21:08:30< vultraz> that took me HOURS
20120131 21:08:30< timotei21> Will cleanup the build dir hopefully will get working
20120131 21:08:37< timotei21> vultraz: what configuration?
20120131 21:08:57< vultraz> I dunno. Just let macports do it
20120131 21:09:32< timotei21> No no, what mac configuration?:P
20120131 21:10:51< vultraz> 10.7.2, Core 2 Duo 2.33 GHz, 2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
20120131 21:11:17< timotei21> Ah, I've got an i5. :P
20120131 21:11:35< timotei21> 2.5Ghz. Hopefully won't take much
20120131 21:11:49< timotei21> But anyway, I have to study in the meantime, so no time is lost :D
20120131 21:12:23< mordante> I'm off bye
20120131 21:12:24 * vultraz is jelly on that i5
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20120131 21:14:21< timotei21> And it's done :D
20120131 21:14:30< timotei21> hmm terminal doesn't have timestamps >.>
20120131 21:14:52< timotei21> I'm stupid. It's not an IRC chat client lol
20120131 21:15:29< timotei21> vultraz: ok, roughly 40 minutes :P
20120131 21:15:43< vultraz> LOL
20120131 21:15:54< vultraz> I was roughly 4 hours
20120131 21:15:57< vultraz> it*
20120131 21:15:59< vultraz> for me
20120131 21:16:05< timotei21> :)
20120131 21:17:23< timotei21> vultraz: that stupid cmake.
20120131 21:17:29< timotei21> it found pangocairo now.
20120131 21:17:38< timotei21> It seems it cached the fact that it didn't found first time...
20120131 21:17:40< timotei21> stupid cmake >))
20120131 21:17:46< timotei21> AHHHHHHH
20120131 21:17:52< timotei21> forgot -DNLS=false
20120131 21:18:16< timotei21> -DUSE_NLS=OFF
20120131 21:18:17< timotei21> ?
20120131 21:18:24< shadowm> it'd be better if you tried a default cnfiguration with all options and then applied any required fixes to the cmake recipe...
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20120131 21:18:42< timotei21> shadowm: no fixes neede yet. Just dependencies
20120131 21:18:59< timotei21> Ivanovic: what was the parameter to skip building the mo files for cmake?
20120131 21:19:05< timotei21> USE_NLS=OFF doesn't work...
20120131 21:19:14< shadowm> then why do you want to disable translations?
20120131 21:19:34< timotei21> shadowm: I don't want to stay for them to compile. I hate translations
20120131 21:19:36< timotei21> :P
20120131 21:19:54< shadowm> ah.
20120131 21:19:57< Ivanovic> ENABLE_NLS is the term
20120131 21:19:58< timotei21> Ivanovic told me once a parameter that disables them...
20120131 21:20:02< timotei21> Ah, Enable
20120131 21:20:03< timotei21> thanks :D
20120131 21:20:26< shadowm> I also have them disabled; I thought you were just trying to workaround some build-time error
20120131 21:20:35< timotei21> vultraz: ok, compiling now. Let's see if it works
20120131 21:20:43< timotei21> and yeah. the patch shadowm was talking about...
20120131 21:21:04 * vultraz waits
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20120131 21:32:41< vultraz> timotei21: how's it going 
20120131 21:32:46< timotei21> vultraz: ok, patched boost
20120131 21:32:48< timotei21> GRRRRRR
20120131 21:32:52< timotei21> clipboard.cpp unused parameter
20120131 21:32:53< timotei21> .......
20120131 21:33:03< timotei21> Guys, aren't you compiling with -WALL?
20120131 21:33:05< shadowm> timotei21: disable strict compilation (although I'd also prefer an actual patch)
20120131 21:33:08< timotei21> and -Wnerror?
20120131 21:33:11< timotei21> I'll fix it
20120131 21:33:16< shadowm> clipboard.cpp compiles clean on X11
20120131 21:33:24< timotei21> unused parameter even
20120131 21:33:27< timotei21> cliboard.cpp>559
20120131 21:33:36< shadowm> I guess the Mac OS X packagers just have never bothered to complain
20120131 21:33:52< timotei21> I'll fix it now...
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20120131 21:34:13< shadowm> in order words, you'll need to take care of making your fix Mac OS X-specific
20120131 21:34:21< timotei21> shadowm: why?
20120131 21:34:35< timotei21> I knew that unused parameters are evil... and they are a "problem" on every OS :P
20120131 21:34:44< shadowm> as I said above, clipboard.cpp compiles clean on X11
20120131 21:34:48< shadowm> that means there's no unused parameters on other platforms
20120131 21:34:57< shadowm> well, X11
20120131 21:35:14< shadowm> I assume loonycyborg would have complained if there were on Windows
20120131 21:35:15< timotei21> Or you're not compiling with ... -wnerror?
20120131 21:35:37< timotei21> 559 	void handle_system_event(const SDL_Event& event)
20120131 21:35:37< timotei21> 560 	{
20120131 21:35:37< timotei21> 561 	}
20120131 21:35:41< timotei21> heh, I'll just comment it
20120131 21:36:09< shadowm> /usr/bin/ccache g++ -o build/release/clipboard.o -c -std=c++98 -pipe -march=native -pthread -W -Wall -Werror -O2 -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -DHAVE_LIBDBUS -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -D_X11 -I. -Isrc -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/SDL -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/cairo ...
20120131 21:36:15< shadowm> ... -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/include/fribidi src/clipboard.cpp
20120131 21:36:19< shadowm> convinced yet?
20120131 21:37:00< timotei21> But it's unused...
20120131 21:37:01< timotei21> :-<
20120131 21:37:13< shadowm> and?
20120131 21:37:57< shadowm> it is within Mac OS X-specific code (why do I have to check this for you, though...)
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20120131 21:39:05< CIA-59> shadowmaster * r52840 /trunk/src/clipboard.cpp: Probable fix for a unused parameter warning on Mac OS X
20120131 21:40:58< timotei21> shadowm: I would have fixed it myself... but it seems svn is acting stupid..
20120131 21:41:38< shadowm> please confirm the fix so I can backport it to 1.10
20120131 21:41:44< timotei21> Yeah
20120131 21:41:50< timotei21> Of course it works now :P
20120131 21:41:58< timotei21> Weird...
20120131 21:42:02< timotei21> vultraz: didn't you get that error too?
20120131 21:42:21< timotei21> vultraz: compiling now...
20120131 21:42:22< shadowm> he did, and I told him to disable strict compilation
20120131 21:42:33< timotei21> shadowm: instead of a proper fix :P
20120131 21:42:36< vultraz> which I did
20120131 21:42:46< shadowm> right, because I was fed up with his questions
20120131 21:42:49< shadowm> :<
20120131 21:42:53< timotei21> But...
20120131 21:43:23< timotei21> That method shouldn't be mac specific anyway
20120131 21:43:30< shadowm> hopefully you won't find a few more dozens of Mac OS X-specific code issues
20120131 21:43:38< timotei21> shadowm: I'll fix them
20120131 21:44:27< CIA-59> shadowmaster * r52841 /branches/1.10/src/clipboard.cpp: 
20120131 21:44:27< CIA-59> Probable fix for a unused parameter warning on Mac OS X
20120131 21:44:27< CIA-59> (Backported from trunk, r52840.)
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20120131 21:48:30< vultraz> timotei21: still working?
20120131 21:48:37< timotei21> vultraz: compiling, it's 40% :P
20120131 21:49:22< vultraz> lol
20120131 21:49:33< vultraz> for some reason here it does the mo stuff all at 0%
20120131 21:49:40< vultraz> then jumps to 78%
20120131 21:49:40< timotei21> Hehe
20120131 21:49:57< timotei21> That's why I disable the translations :)
20120131 21:50:02< Ivanovic> brrr, weather next weekend in brussels sounds frosty and snowy...
20120131 21:50:04< shadowm> cmake's numbers are a ridiculously stupid approximation
20120131 21:50:04< timotei21> Take up too much irrelevant time
20120131 21:50:12< timotei21> Ivanovic: here's -20 in Romania 
20120131 21:50:12< timotei21> :(
20120131 21:50:22< vultraz> O.O
20120131 21:50:29< Ivanovic> the other years it was always well above 5°C
20120131 21:50:35< timotei21> :)
20120131 21:50:37< Ivanovic> this time the temperatures will be negative
20120131 21:50:42< timotei21> The global warming is coming upon us!
20120131 21:50:51< timotei21> And with ACTA, it will be even more wam
20120131 21:50:54< timotei21> warm*
20120131 21:50:56< vultraz> more like global chilling :)
20120131 21:51:04< shadowm> I feel kind of glad to live in a place that's in summer with 31 °C atm then
20120131 21:51:04< timotei21> No, ACTA will negate the values xD
20120131 21:51:51< Ivanovic> hmmm, i wonder if the greek restaurant does also serve grok...
20120131 21:51:54< timotei21> vultraz: and if this cmake thingy works, I'll update the guide on the wiki
20120131 21:51:59< shadowm> (and very rarely below 5 °C at day in winter)
20120131 21:52:08< timotei21> Ivanovic: grok?
20120131 21:52:34< Ivanovic> s/grok/grog
20120131 21:52:48< Ivanovic> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grog
20120131 21:52:58< Ivanovic> basically rum with some sugar and a little hot water
20120131 21:53:26< timotei21> Ah.
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20120131 21:55:32< Ivanovic> probably fits better to those cold temperatures than the usual beer...
20120131 22:00:50< timotei21> vultraz: heh done
20120131 22:00:51< timotei21> :P
20120131 22:01:08< vultraz> no errors? o_O
20120131 22:01:34< timotei21> vultraz: of course not :P
20120131 22:01:39< vultraz> :(
20120131 22:01:41< timotei21> It's trivial: macports the dependencies
20120131 22:01:49< timotei21> you shouldn't have modify anything
20120131 22:01:50< timotei21> ...
20120131 22:01:55< timotei21> Except for the boost path
20120131 22:01:57< timotei21> patch
20120131 22:02:02< timotei21> mkdir build
20120131 22:02:03< timotei21> cd build
20120131 22:02:03< vultraz> but I've done all that
20120131 22:02:06< timotei21> cmake .. 
20120131 22:02:07< timotei21> make
20120131 22:02:25< vultraz> those arc errors come at the end of make
20120131 22:02:46< timotei21> Nope
20120131 22:02:50< timotei21> I mean not for me
20120131 22:02:51< timotei21> ...
20120131 22:02:57< timotei21> You should take everything from start.
20120131 22:02:59< timotei21> rm -rf build
20120131 22:03:01< timotei21> and again
20120131 22:03:23< timotei21> Ok, skipping the 2 issues: 1) running wesnoth uses /usr/local/share/wesnoth INSTEAD local working copy ...
20120131 22:03:26< timotei21> 2) and no sounds ...
20120131 22:03:52< timotei21> 2) ah, damn. Forgot to change the output device
20120131 22:03:54< timotei21> It works fine
20120131 22:04:45< timotei21> vultraz: so... rm -rf build directory
20120131 22:04:52< timotei21> mkdir build, cd build, cmake ..
20120131 22:11:03< vultraz> ok making
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20120131 22:14:07< vultraz> no warning for clipboard.ccp
20120131 22:14:16< vultraz> shadowm's fix worked
20120131 22:15:26< shadowm> timotei21: you don't need to install wesnoth
20120131 22:15:33< shadowm> does it still try to use that path without installing?
20120131 22:15:43< timotei21> shadowm: yeah...
20120131 22:15:47< timotei21> shadowm: I did just make
20120131 22:15:52< timotei21> ...
20120131 22:15:54< timotei21> That's why is weird
20120131 22:16:04< timotei21> Probably has something to do with your fix some time ago?
20120131 22:16:16< shadowm> my fix for what?
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20120131 22:16:22< timotei21> shadowm: unused event variable >P
20120131 22:16:23< timotei21> :P
20120131 22:16:41< shadowm> I suppose that's just a terrible joke
20120131 22:16:57< timotei21> What?
20120131 22:17:34< shadowm> anyone should be able to tell that both areas are unrelated
20120131 22:17:50< timotei21> shadowm: ???
20120131 22:18:00< timotei21> I was talking that, you fixed something some time ago related to the X11 paths...
20120131 22:18:16< timotei21> And probably it doesn't work good on Mac like you've expected :)
20120131 22:18:18< shadowm> which doesn't have anything to do with the unused variable
20120131 22:18:27< timotei21> Who said it has?
20120131 22:18:41< shadowm> 18:16:04 <timotei21> Probably has something to do with your fix some time ago?
20120131 22:18:45< shadowm> 18:16:15 <shadowm> my fix for what?
20120131 22:18:47< shadowm> 18:16:22 <timotei21> shadowm: unused event variable >P
20120131 22:18:49< timotei21> No...
20120131 22:18:58< timotei21> <shadowm> 18:16:15 <shadowm> my fix for what?
20120131 22:18:58< timotei21> <shadowm> 18:16:22 <timotei21> shadowm: unused event variable >P
20120131 22:19:03< timotei21> this was a digression...
20120131 22:19:09< shadowm> please consider expressing yourself better then
20120131 22:19:25< timotei21> I just asked your question...
20120131 22:19:32< timotei21> About the fix.
20120131 22:19:47< timotei21> And the probably was a question to your question with path
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20120131 22:19:50< shadowm> so you don't really know what you are saying anymore. Okay.
20120131 22:19:50< timotei21> :P
20120131 22:21:30< timotei21> shadowm: we were talking about the path. Then you asked about the fix. I answered to that. Then you got confused...
20120131 22:22:22< shadowm> I don't feel like playing repaste games with you, so I'll just point you to the part above where you were the first to bring up the "fix" thing.
20120131 22:22:43< timotei21> shadowm: Well, you asked ambigously too :P
20120131 22:22:45< timotei21> <vultraz> shadowm's fix worked
20120131 22:22:48< timotei21> <timotei21> Probably has something to do with your fix some time ago?
20120131 22:22:50< timotei21> <shadowm> my fix for what?
20120131 22:22:51< timotei21> :))
20120131 22:22:55< timotei21> But ok, let's finish this ;P
20120131 22:22:56< shadowm> I was talking with you, not vultraz
20120131 22:23:39< timotei21> Okay.
20120131 22:27:06< timotei21> wesbot: log 52752
20120131 22:27:07< wesbot> shadowmaster * r52752 : Fix wrong preferences path suffix (1.1 instead of 1.10) when using XDG layout (bug #19318)This only affects Linux and other platforms using XDG layout (nocompiled-in preferences path override).
20120131 22:27:11< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=52752
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20120131 22:27:29< shadowm> that doesn't affect Mac OS X.
20120131 22:27:35< timotei21> shadowm: ^ I was talking about that commit that it might be the cause for the problem. But I guess I was wrong.
20120131 22:28:18< timotei21> shadowm: you sure? Mac OS X uses X11 aswell, IIRC
20120131 22:28:36< shadowm> I thought X11 was provided as a compatibility option.
20120131 22:28:47< shadowm> In any case your problem is with the game data directory. You are barking at the wrong tree.
20120131 22:29:02< timotei21> Yeah, will investigate tomorrow if I'll have time
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20120131 23:29:12< shadowm> wesbot: bug 19367
20120131 23:29:13< wesbot> Bug #19367  Assigned to: None  Status: None  Priority: 5 - Normal
20120131 23:29:13< wesbot> Summary: Incomplete i18n in wesnoth-tutorial
20120131 23:29:13< wesbot> Original submission: I the wesnoth-tutorial campaign there is the sentence: "N
20120131 23:29:16< wesbot> o other units can reach that orc. I hope my $unit.type survives its counter-atta
20120131 23:29:19< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?19367
20120131 23:29:30< shadowm> whoah wtf
20120131 23:29:39< Espreon> inorite?
20120131 23:29:42< Espreon> It's scary.
20120131 23:30:09< shadowm> considering that was written in 1.1.x or .1.3.x
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20120131 23:44:35< CIA-59> ivanovic * r52842 /branches/1.10/ (changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth-httt/nb_NO.po): updated Norwegian translation
20120131 23:44:46< CIA-59> ivanovic * r52843 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth-httt/nb_NO.po): updated Norwegian translation
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20120131 23:48:14< fendrin> hi boucman
20120131 23:48:23< boucman> hey fendrin
20120131 23:51:47< Ivanovic> fendrin: btw from what i saw there was no way to submit a screenshot with the update regarding the new release
20120131 23:52:50< Ivanovic> so yes, i have no idea how to supply a new screenshot for the application
20120131 23:53:03< fendrin> Ivanovic: Too bad, the old one is from 1.6.
20120131 23:53:14< Ivanovic> jepp
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