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20120124 00:39:36<+CIA-43> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r13049 /trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/ (lua/inventory.lua lua/modify_unit.lua todo): Adding potion effects for healing potions.
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20120124 01:07:28<+CIA-43> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r13050 /trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Host now has control over quantity of items to add to a unit.
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20120124 01:27:17<+CIA-43> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r13052 /trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/todo: Significantly rewriting the todo list.
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20120124 02:18:51<+CIA-43> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r13053 /trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/ (lua/modify_unit.lua todo): Now units can be modified by the DM more fully, except for moves because that crashes the game if done on a unit off of their turn. Max_moves works fine.
20120124 02:19:06< Aethaeryn> ancestral: Okay, I finished the modifiers
20120124 02:19:26< Aethaeryn> ancestral: Now let's see if I can get health potions in the game. The inventosry system works, it's just the acquire inventory thing that I never coded.
20120124 02:20:08< ancestral> No problem
20120124 02:25:51< Aethaeryn> ancestral: Okay, even though I'm pretty damn good at rapid coding, (2) will take too long.
20120124 02:26:07< Aethaeryn> ancestral: But I just realized that the host can change a side's gold, and can (for his units) add inventory.
20120124 02:26:28< Aethaeryn> So right now I can just temporarily make you on a DM's side, add items to your inventory, deduct gold for their cost, and then change you back
20120124 02:26:47< Aethaeryn> Way harder than normal, but it'll work, and so we shouldn't hold up a game for it
20120124 02:27:00< Aethaeryn> ancestral: I fixed the healthbar bug in my add-on but it remains in mainline :-P
20120124 02:27:19< ancestral> Haha nice
20120124 02:27:38< Aethaeryn> It turns out that having shroud but no fog screws things up because it's used to having fog but no shroud.
20120124 02:27:43< Aethaeryn> As in someone must've not tested all the cases.
20120124 02:27:59< Aethaeryn> But I can rigidly define shared_view=no (as in don't share in fog, should be meaningless in a shroud game) and the healthbars go
20120124 02:28:08< ancestral> Cool
20120124 02:28:52< Aethaeryn> Also, based on my progress measurement system I'm 80% complete to version 1.0 and a release
20120124 02:29:09< Aethaeryn> ancestral: basically http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wesnoth-umc-dev/trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/todo
20120124 02:29:27< Aethaeryn> 2, 3, and 4 should be done by the end of the week (well, mostly)
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20120124 05:47:35<+CIA-43> wesnoth-umc-dev: doofus-01 * r13055 /trunk/Tales_of_the_Setting_Sun/ (_main.cfg dist/VERSION utils/objects-generic.cfg): I think the dropping objects stuff is finished. Releasing 0.0.7
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20120124 06:38:22<+CIA-43> wesnoth-umc-dev: vultraz * r13060 /trunk/NX-RPG/lua/inventory/inventory.lua: NX: removed some commented out code
20120124 06:41:00<+CIA-43> wesnoth-umc-dev: vultraz * r13061 /trunk/NX-RPG/lua/inventory/inventory.lua: NX: added a spacer
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20120124 09:22:39<+CIA-43> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r13062 /trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): 
20120124 09:22:39<+CIA-43> wesnoth-umc-dev: Moving Gladiator Arena out of Aethaeryn's Maps and into a new battle map in
20120124 09:22:39<+CIA-43> wesnoth-umc-dev: Master of Dungeons. This is fitting because it was using really old summoner
20120124 09:22:39<+CIA-43> wesnoth-umc-dev: code that eventually became the summoner code in the original, written-in-WML
20120124 09:22:39<+CIA-43> wesnoth-umc-dev: version of MoD.
20120124 09:23:04< Aethaeryn> Woah, I have the power to flood IRC
20120124 09:23:26< ancestral> So yeah
20120124 09:23:29< ancestral> Hide HP bars
20120124 09:23:31 * ancestral wants
20120124 09:23:50< ancestral> I think it's in the theme WML?
20120124 09:23:59 * ancestral can't remember
20120124 09:24:07< Aethaeryn> I'm hiding HP bars from the...
20120124 09:24:10< Aethaeryn> shroud
20120124 09:24:13< Aethaeryn> anyway
20120124 09:24:23< Aethaeryn> ancestral: I turned off the under circle things and wesnoth looked better
20120124 09:24:33< Aethaeryn> but monsters aren't TC so gryphons in Aethaeryn's Empires broke my evil plan
20120124 09:24:45< ancestral> Can you force-disable that in WML?
20120124 09:24:56< Aethaeryn> Probably.
20120124 09:25:08< Aethaeryn> You can set a custom one (e.g. a star in a few places, and a dashed circle for lvl 0)
20120124 09:25:12< Aethaeryn> all defined in unit WML
20120124 09:25:16< Aethaeryn> there might be a way to set it to nothing.
20120124 09:25:25< ancestral> My goal is to have objects I can move like units
20120124 09:25:40< Aethaeryn> well, again, the circle thing is easily hideable.
20120124 09:25:40< ancestral> Think of it like crude animation
20120124 09:25:43< Aethaeryn> you could, e.g. have a door with HP
20120124 09:25:49< Aethaeryn> that could have no under-circle
20120124 09:26:27< Aethaeryn> heh, I should make a summoner's era out of MoD code
20120124 09:26:33< ancestral> Let's say it's an environmental effect, but it's not a unit
20120124 09:26:36< ancestral> Like
20120124 09:26:41< ancestral> A big fog cloud
20120124 09:26:41< Aethaeryn> Kinda like I'm going to abuse MoD code to get Era of Tyrants playable
20120124 09:26:53< ancestral> But the DM should be able to move the fog cloud like a unit
20120124 09:26:53< Aethaeryn> ancestral: the orb isn't there if it's an enemy.
20120124 09:27:12< Aethaeryn> The HP bar is the only thing that'd be there.
20120124 09:27:18< ancestral> Stupid HP bars
20120124 09:27:40< ancestral> Aethaeryn: The question is, is it drawn, or is the HP bars from an image file?
20120124 09:27:54<+CIA-43> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r13063 /trunk/Aethaeryns_Maps/_main.cfg: Unbreaking Aethaeryn's Maps now that Gladiator Arena is removed.
20120124 09:28:20< Aethaeryn> holy shit
20120124 09:28:31< ancestral> Holy shit?
20120124 09:28:37< Aethaeryn> the first version of Chambers, according to my changelog (which saves dates) was 6 Nov 2007
20120124 09:28:56< Aethaeryn> And Fortress Assault was 16 Dec 2007, all in 1.3.x
20120124 09:28:57< ancestral> 4+ years ago 
20120124 09:29:06< Aethaeryn> I wasn't even an adult then.
20120124 09:29:10< Aethaeryn> Or a high school graduate.
20120124 09:29:13< ancestral> I joined the forums summer '07
20120124 09:29:33< ancestral> I downloaded BfW while I was in college I believe
20120124 09:29:36< ancestral> Maybe in the summer
20120124 09:29:54< ancestral> Downloaded it, played it, thought it needed work (which it, I'm sure, did) and forgot about it
20120124 09:30:03< ancestral> Found it later, was like, huh, it's gotten better
20120124 09:30:08< Aethaeryn> I need to do a graph using the dates of wesnoth-umc-dev SVN and the changelog of Aethaeryn's Maps for before that.
20120124 09:30:16< Aethaeryn> to see in what spurts I develop for Wesnoth
20120124 09:30:19< Aethaeryn> usually for a few months a year
20120124 09:30:27< Aethaeryn> and when I did what
20120124 09:30:28< ancestral> And
20120124 09:30:30< ancestral> Also
20120124 09:30:35< ancestral> IRC activity
20120124 09:30:38< ancestral> And forum posts
20120124 09:30:41< Aethaeryn> not IRC
20120124 09:30:44< ancestral> And wiki posts
20120124 09:30:47< ancestral> :-P
20120124 09:30:51< Aethaeryn> I've been on #wesnoth* forever.
20120124 09:30:57< Aethaeryn> Even during months when I don't touch Wesnoth
20120124 09:31:01< ancestral> Since the dawn of #wesnoth
20120124 09:31:06< Aethaeryn> Only exception would be freshman year.
20120124 09:31:07< ancestral> Right but
20120124 09:31:09< ancestral> activity
20120124 09:31:11< ancestral> your messages
20120124 09:31:18< Aethaeryn> False indicator
20120124 09:31:22< ancestral> k
20120124 09:31:23< Aethaeryn> Blueblaze is still active in #wesnoth*
20120124 09:31:31< ancestral> He doesn't say anything in it
20120124 09:31:37< Aethaeryn> #wesnoth*
20120124 09:31:38< ancestral> He's active in #wesnoth-music but
20120124 09:31:39< Aethaeryn> wildcard
20120124 09:31:42< ancestral> k
20120124 09:31:58< Aethaeryn> rm -i \#wesnoth*
20120124 09:32:03< ancestral> He probably hasn't played Wesnoth in like 1½ or 2 years
20120124 09:32:03< Aethaeryn> would remove the logs for all wesnoth channels
20120124 09:32:12< Aethaeryn> Exactly.
20120124 09:32:21< Aethaeryn> So we rule out IRC as a measure of activity.
20120124 09:32:31< ancestral> Also
20120124 09:32:35< ancestral> gna.org activity?
20120124 09:32:48< ancestral> umc-dev site activity?
20120124 09:32:52< Aethaeryn> I said umc-dev
20120124 09:32:55< ancestral> k
20120124 09:32:59< Aethaeryn> ancestral: I need to show you one more map
20120124 09:33:04< Aethaeryn> too large to play
20120124 09:33:22< Aethaeryn> observe on the serer please
20120124 09:33:24< Aethaeryn> *server
20120124 09:33:28< ancestral> Someone was writing a map viewer! That's what it was
20120124 09:33:39< Aethaeryn> I remember that
20120124 09:33:44< ancestral> Haven't heard anything on it in forever
20120124 09:33:44< Aethaeryn> I used it a few times
20120124 09:33:48< Aethaeryn> Probably broken
20120124 09:33:51< Aethaeryn> anyway observe my game ancestral 
20120124 09:34:11< ancestral> sotika's game?
20120124 09:34:17< ancestral> didn't think so
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20120124 09:34:53< ancestral> Aethaeryn: You have vacant slots
20120124 09:34:59< Aethaeryn> ancestral: I ahd to turn off fog
20120124 09:34:59< ancestral> k
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20120124 09:40:59< ancestral> Oh
20120124 09:41:13< ancestral> Aethaeryn: Is there any Queen portraits that are decent? In core?
20120124 09:41:21< ancestral> or campaigns?
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20120124 09:41:55< Aethaeryn> ancestral: no idea
20120124 09:41:59< ancestral> Did Kitty get to the queen?
20120124 09:42:03< Aethaeryn> I haven't done much in a year on Wesnoth
20120124 09:42:12< ancestral> Asheviere's old portrait is horrendous
20120124 09:42:17< ancestral> It's like
20120124 09:42:22< ancestral> It gives you shivers
20120124 09:42:26< ancestral> It's just revolting
20120124 09:43:05< Aethaeryn> Duh
20120124 09:43:07< Aethaeryn> she's evil
20120124 09:43:22< ancestral> Maybe I'll take an Elvish "queen"
20120124 09:44:02< ancestral> Hmm
20120124 09:44:05< ancestral> Actually, this could work
20120124 09:44:17< ancestral> Elves, Humans, Merfolk, and
20120124 09:44:27< ancestral> Hmm
20120124 09:44:44< ancestral> Undead, hmm
20120124 09:46:54<+CIA-43> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r13064 /trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Moving a very beautiful map, Hide and Seek, that is a nightmare to balance to MoD, where it can live a happy life as an RPG map.
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20120124 10:23:30< Aethaeryn> ancestral: context?
20120124 10:23:37< Aethaeryn> what's the queen for?
20120124 10:23:59< ancestral> Making a deck of cards
20120124 10:24:36< Aethaeryn> ah, I can see where the problem would come then
20120124 10:24:38< Aethaeryn> I would use an elf
20120124 10:24:58< Aethaeryn> Unfortunately, the sylph sprite is way more queen than the portrait is.
20120124 10:25:07< ancestral> I'm doing 1 race per suit
20120124 10:25:16< ancestral> Human - Elf - Merfolk - Undead
20120124 10:25:31< ancestral> Hearts Clubs Spades Diamonds?
20120124 10:25:36< ancestral> or maybe
20120124 10:25:57< ancestral> Hearts - Clubs - Diamonds - Spades (Himans - Elves - Merfolk - Undead)
20120124 10:28:11< Aethaeryn> what about a mage?
20120124 10:28:40< Aethaeryn> ancestral: http://units.wesnoth.org/trunk/pics/00475_mage-arch+female.png
20120124 10:29:45< ancestral> You know actually I'm going with
20120124 10:31:13< ancestral> http://svn.gna.org/svn/wesnoth/trunk/data/campaigns/An_Orcish_Incursion/images/portraits/linaera.png
20120124 10:32:44< ancestral> The best, oldest, high-in-power, "I'm not strictly a mage or fighter" human portrait I could find
20120124 10:32:49< Aethaeryn> not far off
20120124 10:33:02< Aethaeryn> Are mages jacks then?
20120124 10:33:07< Aethaeryn> They better be
20120124 10:33:17< Aethaeryn> :-P
20120124 10:33:22< Aethaeryn> anyway
20120124 10:33:33< Aethaeryn> hmm
20120124 10:34:05< Aethaeryn> I've had an oddly productive two days on MoD procrastinating Federation
20120124 10:34:12< Aethaeryn> Once I get stuck, I'll probably finish Federation in a week.
20120124 10:34:21< Aethaeryn> I only produce work when it's instead of doing something else I should be doing.
20120124 10:34:30< Aethaeryn> I'm actually speeding up Federation development this way :-P
20120124 10:34:38< Aethaeryn> That's why I always juggle several add-ons on Wesnoth
20120124 10:37:40< ancestral> Let's see
20120124 10:37:45< ancestral> I've seen it done before as
20120124 10:38:09< ancestral> Hearts Red, Clovers Green, Diamonds Blue, Spades Black
20120124 10:38:09< ancestral> Yep
20120124 10:38:09< ancestral> That'll work
20120124 10:44:47< Aethaeryn> hmm
20120124 10:44:55< Aethaeryn> makes sense
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20120124 22:10:03< Aethaeryn> esr: Want another test case for your reposurgeon?
20120124 22:10:40< esr> Aethaeryn: Maybe, what do you have in mind?
20120124 22:11:17< Aethaeryn> I want to extract my add-ons and only my add-ons from wesnoth-umc-dev and put them on a github.
20120124 22:11:39< Aethaeryn> So this will require it being smart and picking out only certain folders from /trunk /tags and /branches
20120124 22:12:01< Aethaeryn> esr: Is it possible to automate this in some way right now?
20120124 22:12:28< esr> Yes.
20120124 22:13:04< Aethaeryn> Note that this is messy. I may have violated some SVN conventions when I was new, and I have tags, branches (going back to 1.6), and trunk.
20120124 22:13:09< esr> reposurgeon can do this easily.  Read the documentation to learn how.
20120124 22:13:54< Aethaeryn> I expect to find a few bugs :-)
20120124 22:15:36< Aethaeryn> esr: are there any dependencies for svn extraction? I'm downloading the current git of reposurgeon now
20120124 22:16:40< esr> You just need Subversion and git installed, that's it.
20120124 22:16:48< Aethaeryn> nice
20120124 22:20:02< Aethaeryn> Still downloading, gitorious is slow
20120124 22:20:08< Aethaeryn> 160 KiB/s
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20120124 22:44:20< AI0867> esr: reposurgeon can import directly from svn? I thought it would have to be in a DVCS to begin with
20120124 22:45:37< AI0867> it might have saved me the trouble of writing a script to generate a configuration for a svn2git tool for the wescamp conversion
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20120124 22:52:19< Aethaeryn> AI0867: Does wesnoth-umc-dev have any plans of switching to git?
20120124 22:53:31< AI0867> shadowmaster doesn't
20120124 22:53:51< Aethaeryn> Last time I asked shadowm he said it wasn't his responsibility.
20120124 22:53:59< AI0867> but one of the main objections (there are others though) was the problem of splitting it up
20120124 22:54:01< Aethaeryn> He said git-svn works fine for him, but he doesn't control wesnoth-umc-dev anymore so ask you
20120124 22:54:08< AI0867> that one's addressable
20120124 22:54:44< AI0867> wescamp had the advantage of not having actual branches or tags, but that should be doable too
20120124 22:54:57< Aethaeryn> AI0867: well, esr claims that reposurgeon now has no problem with svn
20120124 22:55:05< Aethaeryn> He made a very long post
20120124 22:55:23< Aethaeryn> Well, it still needs testing to reach 2.0
20120124 22:55:33< Aethaeryn> But this would make an interesting conversion test
20120124 22:56:50< Aethaeryn> wesnoth-umc-dev seems to use the traditional /trunk, /branches, /tags structure
20120124 22:57:52< Aethaeryn> AI0867: Would it hurt to test it out and see how hard the conversion is?
20120124 22:58:36<+CIA-43> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r13069 /trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/lua/spawn_units.lua: Rewriting yet another menu.
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20120124 23:00:38< Aethaeryn> AI0867: All I know is that even Espreon does work on git now for his maps and just publishes on wesnoth-umc-dev
20120124 23:01:05< Aethaeryn> SVN seems... old these days.
20120124 23:02:29< Aethaeryn> And it just really shows in odd places, even nonimportant stuff like the SVN web interfaces sucking more than the git ones
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20120124 23:10:19< Espreon> Yeah, SVN feels more like a publishing tool...
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20120124 23:20:21< Aethaeryn> Is there a trivial macro thingie to get liches to promote to ancient liches and Inferno Drakes to Armageddon Drakes?
20120124 23:23:23< loonycyborg> git's submodule system seems to kinda suck.
20120124 23:23:59< loonycyborg> There seems to be no way of checking out only a subdirectory either.
20120124 23:25:28< Aethaeryn> AI0867: So I guess it's up to you
20120124 23:26:15< Aethaeryn> loonycyborg: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/180052/checkout-subdirectories-in-git
20120124 23:28:38< Aethaeryn> In fact, I assume that the fancy nature of git probably would make it easier on those of us who have 6 or so things in trunk
20120124 23:28:44< Aethaeryn> There's probably a way to do it
20120124 23:29:22< Aethaeryn> With svn I wouldn't be able to move between folders or commit things in multiple folders without checking out all of trunk
20120124 23:33:05<+CIA-43> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r13070 /trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/lua/spawn_units.lua: Starting a rewrite of the final, largest function
20120124 23:33:28< Aethaeryn> ^ With git I wouldn't have to push broken revisions like that to everyone else that I need to save just in case I screw things up debugging my change.
20120124 23:36:15< Aethaeryn> The more complex a software project gets, the more cvs or svn show their age
20120124 23:36:48< Aethaeryn> I can use SVN with simple WML stuff, but all this Lua I'm writing is adding to a complexity that just makes me want to throw my keyboard at svn sometimes
20120124 23:40:25< loonycyborg> I wonder if I were using svnmerge instead of git-svn would I have to transmit those huge diffs too when merging back from trunk..
20120124 23:52:38<+CIA-43> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r13071 /trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/lua/spawn_units.lua: Fixing the unit spawner.
20120124 23:56:48<+CIA-43> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r13072 /trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/ (_main.cfg lua/spawn_units.lua lua/use_lua.cfg): Moving the unit data into their own file.
20120124 23:57:28<+CIA-43> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r13073 /trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/lua/units.lua: Making the unit data file.
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