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doesn't recache them or whatever it is that it's doing? 20120105 21:17:02< shadowmaster> no, assuming you are talking of the loading progress screen 20120105 21:17:03< csarmi> so that those addons wouldn't work until you restrat game or do something 20120105 21:17:18-!- rork [~quassel@s51477552.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #wesnoth 20120105 21:17:47< shadowmaster> perhaps --validcache in the command line would make a difference, perhaps not. In either case its use is not recommended. 20120105 21:17:58< csarmi> what I mean is that installing a new addon makes my game take like 2 minutes 20120105 21:18:18< csarmi> 20 secs download, 100 secs recache 20120105 21:18:34< csarmi> I'd rather save those 100 secs / addon 20120105 21:18:42< shadowmaster> that isn't normal, and could indicate that your hard disk or CPU are too slow, or there's a problem with your hard disk 20120105 21:18:55< shadowmaster> or you downloaded an absurdly large and poorly coded add-on 20120105 21:19:02< csarmi> well at least lately you can force the game not to recache after every addon with a timely pressed 'esc' 20120105 21:20:17< csarmi> well I was told in the forums that its normal that my game loads slowly, has to build up some cache or whatever it is 20120105 21:20:32-!- Kullervo2 [~yaaic@net242-0-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20120105 21:20:52< shadowmaster> the cache takes less than 10 seconds to be generated here 20120105 21:20:57< csarmi> 'reading files and creating cache' 20120105 21:21:08-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-18-138.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20120105 21:21:26< csarmi> well its much more than that here if there are lots of addons installed 20120105 21:21:59< csarmi> but with my freshly installed 1.9.13. (with virtually no addons installed ) it wasn't very long 20120105 21:22:00< shadowmaster> I'd not advise keeping many add-ons installed, in general 20120105 21:22:13< csarmi> I think the problem is the tons of small files I don't think windows like them 20120105 21:22:35< csarmi> actually it used to take several HOURS for me to delete wesnoth 20120105 21:22:45< csarmi> with my older comp 20120105 21:22:58< shadowmaster> Note that I've not referred to Ageless Era beecause it's obviously a design issue by itself. 20120105 21:23:05-!- NightWolf- [~NightWolf@95.157.8.173] has joined #wesnoth 20120105 21:23:15< csarmi> I avoid ageless era its horrid 20120105 21:23:43< csarmi> something is fishy with that burt I don't know what 20120105 21:23:48< csarmi> *but 20120105 21:24:46< csarmi> for some reasons lots of players use it but I'm not exactly sure how its files could be up-to-date 20120105 21:24:52< csarmi> with current eras 20120105 21:25:27-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-18-138.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20120105 21:25:27< shadowmaster> it is a WML parser, cache manager and unit tree handler benchmark suite :) (which occasionally manages to break other add-ons or Default) 20120105 21:26:19< shadowmaster> more seriously, AE is the wrong approach to solve the lack of a mechanism to allow the user to mix units from different eras 20120105 21:27:00< csarmi> what is the right approach? 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