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20120122 01:22:24< Aethaeryn> So does anyone want to help me dust off my 2000-lines-of-code RPG to see what needs to be tweaked before release on 1.10?
20120122 01:24:22< Ivanovic> 2000 loc before 1.10?
20120122 01:24:32< Ivanovic> do you mean before tagging or before announcing?
20120122 01:24:46< Ivanovic> getting it done before tagging will be a challenge (though possible)
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20120122 01:41:37< Aethaeryn> Ivanovic: What I meant to say is that I have an add-on that has 2000 lines of code of Lua, that I last touched around early 1.9 since it's MP-focused. I need to make sure it isn't broken before 1.10.
20120122 01:41:47< Aethaeryn> Hopefully there's only a few hundred lines that need tweaking, not all 2000
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20120122 06:26:20< archl> Hi, I have a question about a sentence to translate:Huntsmen have spent their lives in the backwoods and swamps of their wilderness homes. They can bullseye wamprats and track anything that " 
20120122 06:26:30< archl> what is "bullseye"?
20120122 06:27:23< Espreon> To get a bullseye... to hit the target just right.
20120122 06:27:53< Espreon> It really shouldn't be there, but sadly, it is.
20120122 06:28:22< archl> lol is this "bull's eye"?
20120122 06:28:54< archl> Espreon:  so you do have a pair of bullseyes looks?
20120122 06:29:21< Espreon> No.
20120122 06:29:27< Espreon> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bullseye
20120122 06:30:53< archl> Espreon: ty
20120122 06:30:56< Espreon> Yup.
20120122 06:33:32< Espreon> archl: Out of curiosity, what are you translating to?
20120122 06:35:07< archl> Espreon: I'm helping a guy translating to Simplified Chinese which I used to maintain.
20120122 06:35:14< Espreon> ah.
20120122 06:36:43< archl> Espreon: which language are you native to?
20120122 06:36:57< Espreon> English.
20120122 06:37:09< archl> Espreon: OK ;D
20120122 06:37:44< Gambit> Is that from... mainline?
20120122 06:37:56< archl> Gambit: yes
20120122 06:38:06< Gambit> It would make my day if wamprats were part of Wesnoth canon
20120122 06:38:08< Gambit> AWESOME
20120122 06:38:09< Gambit> Haha
20120122 06:38:17< Espreon> Gambit: I removed "wamprats" from the description.
20120122 06:38:27< archl> Espreon: ...
20120122 06:38:31< Gambit> Espreon: Damn it why?
20120122 06:38:37< Gambit> Espreon: Put it back!
20120122 06:38:43< Espreon> ... I really should have killed "bullseye" too, but I was too lazy.
20120122 06:38:45< archl> YOU WAY TOO FAST
20120122 06:38:48< Espreon> Gambit: Hard string freeze.
20120122 06:38:57< Espreon> Also, never.
20120122 06:39:07< Espreon> archl: No. I did it awhile ago.
20120122 06:39:20< Gambit> :(
20120122 06:39:26< Gambit> Espreon you're such a downer.
20120122 06:39:31< archl> Espreon: OH... I will tell the poor guy he wasted his time to search
20120122 06:39:43< Espreon> All right.
20120122 06:39:50< Gambit> archl: It's a Star Wars reference basically.
20120122 06:40:05< Gambit> And Espreon is our resident fun sucker.
20120122 06:40:23< archl> Gambit: ... well, some people havn't watch it, just like me.
20120122 06:40:57< Espreon> That and it's just another "fuck you" for the translators.
20120122 06:41:06< Gambit> Ah that's true.
20120122 06:42:11< Espreon> archl: But yeah, the guy you're working with is using an old version of the po file for that domain...
20120122 06:42:21< Espreon> Gambit: Also, it was spelled wrong...
20120122 06:42:52< Gambit> Well obviously we can't copy the exact spelling
20120122 06:42:59< Gambit> The lawyers!
20120122 06:43:11< Espreon> True.
20120122 06:43:17< Gambit> probably should have kept it as two words though
20120122 06:43:41< Espreon> ... Nah...
20120122 06:43:57< Gambit> At any rate... I'm very sad now
20120122 06:44:29< Gambit> Espreon: I'm going to start calling you Debbie from this day forward.
20120122 06:44:37< Gambit> Debbie Downer :P
20120122 06:44:51< Espreon> Nah, I'm more like Suicidal Sally.
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20120122 12:12:19< Ivanovic> moin
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20120122 13:53:58< gentooshnyk> hi all
20120122 13:55:28< loonycyborg> hello
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20120122 14:01:31< gentooshnyk> How much you play The Battle for Wesnoth per day?
20120122 14:03:06< loonycyborg> Is that opinion poll or something? :P
20120122 14:03:18< loonycyborg> I really don't have a shedule for that..
20120122 14:03:30< loonycyborg> For playing wesnoth that is.
20120122 14:05:48< gentooshnyk> No, I just  do want begin the discussion.
20120122 14:06:31< loonycyborg> Are you really a gentooer? :P
20120122 14:07:29< gentooshnyk> I use Linux Gentoo.
20120122 14:07:53< loonycyborg> So do I.
20120122 14:08:20< gentooshnyk> It's cool.
20120122 14:09:06< gentooshnyk> How long have you use Gentoo?
20120122 14:09:20< loonycyborg> Since 2006
20120122 14:09:46< gentooshnyk> long
20120122 14:10:35< gentooshnyk> I since 2010
20120122 14:13:44< loonycyborg> Do you play wesnoth longer than that or you've discovered wesnoth by browsing /usr/portage? :P
20120122 14:14:19< gentooshnyk> No
20120122 14:15:02< gentooshnyk> I found wesnoth in portage first.
20120122 14:15:34< gentooshnyk> And you?
20120122 14:15:58< fendrin> I have also a machine that uses Gentoo.
20120122 14:16:13< fendrin> Took 2 weeks to compile itself.
20120122 14:16:37< loonycyborg> gentooshnyk: iirc the same
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20120122 14:18:19< Ivanovic> hmm, emerge -ep world takes less than 18h over here...
20120122 14:18:49< gentooshnyk> loonycyborg, ok, I will know.
20120122 14:19:10< fendrin> It's an old machine and I used too many optimization options.
20120122 14:19:41< fendrin> But it's working nicely once it was done.
20120122 14:20:05< gentooshnyk> fendrin, what is your processor?
20120122 14:20:07< loonycyborg> I've built a gentoo on a laptop by sharing /usr/portage over NFS and using distcc :P
20120122 14:20:22< fendrin> gentooshnyk: It's a pentium2 300mhz
20120122 14:22:23< gentooshnyk> oh my god
20120122 14:24:47< gentooshnyk> fendrin, Given your hardware you compiled quickly your Gentoo.
20120122 14:25:47< fendrin> gentooshnyk: I compiled only a small system. The machine is working as our flat file server.
20120122 14:27:20< gentooshnyk> fendrin, small but was x server too?
20120122 14:27:41< fendrin> no x
20120122 14:28:15< fendrin> I can handle the administration on the commandline and there is no need for graphical user login.
20120122 14:29:05< gentooshnyk> fendrin, Is you without X.org now?
20120122 14:29:39< fendrin> Sorry, didn't get the question.
20120122 14:30:45< gentooshnyk> From mem fendrin? Repeat?
20120122 14:30:59< gentooshnyk> From me, fendrin? Repeat?
20120122 14:31:30< fendrin> Yes
20120122 14:31:52< gentooshnyk> Is you without X.org now?
20120122 14:32:27< fendrin> gentooshnyk: No, my Desktop that I use for daily work/entertainment is using a Xserver of course.
20120122 14:32:43< fendrin> gentooshnyk: Just the file server does not need to burdened with it. 
20120122 14:32:58< gentooshnyk> on another computer?
20120122 14:33:03< fendrin> Right.
20120122 14:36:54< gentooshnyk> fendrin, I hope Does another computer under Linux? Not Windows?
20120122 14:37:48< fendrin> gentooshnyk: I have a Windows partition for gaming but it's rarely used. I spend 98% of the time using Linux.
20120122 14:38:20< gentooshnyk> fendrin, you are true user.
20120122 14:38:49< fendrin> :-)
20120122 14:39:52< fendrin> But my Desktop is running Kubuntu, the KDE based version of Ubuntu. I used to use Debian for Decades but since some time it's for Servers only.
20120122 14:40:32< gentooshnyk> fendrin, what games you play in internet?
20120122 14:42:14< fendrin> gentooshnyk: I don't play any games any more. Just Wesnoth. But I am not playing, I am mostly testing it.
20120122 14:43:01< gentooshnyk> fendrin, I am too. My little brother plays.
20120122 14:46:01< gentooshnyk> loonycyborg, what is your notebook?
20120122 14:46:23< loonycyborg> One of earliest models of eeepc
20120122 14:48:02< gentooshnyk> loonycyborg, and does it normal works with X.org?
20120122 14:48:39< loonycyborg> Yes. It has an intel video card which is well supported.
20120122 14:50:23< gentooshnyk> loonycyborg, my friend's notebook eeepc didn't work with old versions of X.org in Fedora Linux.
20120122 14:50:47< gentooshnyk> And he was sad.
20120122 14:52:05< gentooshnyk> I knew that Gentoo is good distribution.
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20120122 19:00:09< janebot> Twitter: @Wesnoth: Things to look forward to in #Wesnoth 1.10: Four new multiplayer maps! Aethermaw, Arcanclave Citadel, Thousand Stings Garrison, and Volcano [ Jan-22-2012 18:00 ] [ http://tinyurl.com/7d5wmne ]
20120122 19:04:11< Zerovirus> man those maps have BEEN things since 1.9
20120122 19:06:40< shadowm> The tweets are about changes between the previous stable series (1.8) and 1.10.
20120122 19:07:08< shadowm> Changes between development versions aren't that interesting to people who haven't been using them in the first place.
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20120122 19:14:24< toxicsgz> Nice to see a well populated channel for Wesnoth :)
20120122 19:15:25 * Rhonda peeks at toxicsgz 
20120122 19:15:40< toxicsgz> Hey! No peeking.
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20120122 19:32:03< toxicsgz> Is it possible to play the main campaigns with infinite turns?
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20120122 19:33:10< fendrin> toxicsgz: yes it is, just edit the config files of the scenarios. That is very easy. look for turns= and replace the number.
20120122 19:33:12< Ivanovic> toxicsgz: only with editing the files and basically killing all balancing
20120122 19:33:33< Ivanovic> since the campaigns are also balanced for some "reasonable" values for gold carryover and stuff like this
20120122 19:33:50< Ivanovic> plus having basically infinite turns allows mining of XP significantly improving your chances
20120122 19:34:59< Rhonda> fendrin: I don't find any "turns" part in first DW scenario?
20120122 19:35:12< toxicsgz> Thx fendrin. Ivanovic I understand that the balance of the game is affected, I have played the senarios but wish to have some fun :)
20120122 19:35:53< fendrin> toxicsgz: Sure, why not cheat? It's your time you spent with the game.
20120122 19:36:20< Rhonda> toxicsgz: Actually it is considered more fun to not cheat.
20120122 19:36:51< Rhonda> Because the feeling of having succeeded then is much better
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20120122 19:37:04< fendrin> Rhonda:  {TURNS4 30 28 26 26} It's hidden behind that macro.
20120122 19:37:15< Rhonda> I see.
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20120122 19:37:37< toxicsgz> I have already succeeded Rhonda
20120122 19:38:15< fendrin> toxicsgz: Rhonda has a good point there. In most campaigns we use macros because of the different turn limits depending on the difficult level.
20120122 19:41:50< toxicsgz> The config file will be returned to its original state once I have had my fun :)
20120122 19:41:53< Rhonda> toxicsgz: So why do you want to set it to unlimited?
20120122 19:42:20< Rhonda> Why do it in the official campaigns and not try to do your own sort-of fork of it in your private space?
20120122 19:42:38< Rhonda> And maybe you will come up with a great campaign in the end that might end in mainline!
20120122 19:43:04< toxicsgz> Once again... For fun
20120122 19:43:24< Rhonda> Maybe the :debug mode is all you need.
20120122 19:43:43< toxicsgz> ebug?
20120122 19:43:49< Rhonda> :debug
20120122 19:44:05< Rhonda> Wait, let me look up the wiki page
20120122 19:44:34< Rhonda> toxicsgz: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/DebugMode
20120122 19:45:03< Rhonda> ah, rather http://wiki.wesnoth.org/CommandMode
20120122 19:45:45< Rhonda> like :gold and :create
20120122 19:49:23< toxicsgz> Ah! :turn_limit :)
20120122 19:50:49< Rhonda> see :)
20120122 20:01:27< toxicsgz> Hmm! How to enter cammand mode?
20120122 20:01:44< toxicsgz> command*
20120122 20:02:38< Rhonda> Ö
20120122 20:02:41< Rhonda> erm
20120122 20:02:42< Rhonda> :
20120122 20:02:50< toxicsgz> Yes bit where?
20120122 20:03:13< toxicsgz> but*
20120122 20:03:19< toxicsgz> can't type today :)
20120122 20:03:48< toxicsgz> He he! I will do what it says shall I :D
20120122 20:08:07< toxicsgz> turn_limit unknown command???
20120122 20:09:07< Rhonda> in the game
20120122 20:10:18< Rhonda> DebugMode (:debug) enables additional commands in command mode:
20120122 20:10:26< toxicsgz> The command is unknown?
20120122 20:10:29< toxicsgz> AH
20120122 20:10:38< Rhonda> toxicsgz: "I will do what it says shall I" - you didnt
20120122 20:10:58< toxicsgz> :) I did to get the command line.
20120122 20:11:27< Rhonda> but not enable the additional commands.
20120122 20:11:37< toxicsgz> No how?
20120122 20:13:44< toxicsgz> I cannot get into Debug Mode?
20120122 20:13:53< Rhonda> …
20120122 20:13:57< Rhonda> did you enter :debug
20120122 20:14:01< toxicsgz> Neither can I find the config file 
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20120122 20:14:10< toxicsgz> 'ebug'
20120122 20:14:15< toxicsgz> or
20120122 20:14:15< Rhonda> with a d
20120122 20:14:23< toxicsgz> lower case?
20120122 20:14:32< Rhonda> like it is written
20120122 20:14:38< toxicsgz> :D
20120122 20:14:41< Rhonda> case does matter
20120122 20:14:49< Rhonda> usually
20120122 20:15:33< toxicsgz> still an unknown command
20120122 20:22:04< toxicsgz> OK any ideas where I might find the scenarios config files?
20120122 20:23:42< Rhonda> in the game data dir
20120122 20:26:45< toxicsgz> I have an add ons folder in there and nothing else?
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20120122 20:27:10< Rhonda> how did you install wesnoth on what system?
20120122 20:27:52< toxicsgz> Via synaptic
20120122 20:28:10< toxicsgz> What do you mean by system... OS?
20120122 20:28:32< toxicsgz> If so Ubuntu 10.04
20120122 20:28:44< Rhonda> which version then?
20120122 20:29:23< toxicsgz> 1.8.0
20120122 20:29:50< Rhonda> …
20120122 20:30:18< toxicsgz> The version in the distro repository is older so I installed 1.8 via synaptic.
20120122 20:30:26 * Rhonda throws the wiki documentation at toxicsgz again
20120122 20:30:39< Rhonda> :turn_limit [number]
20120122 20:30:40< Rhonda> (Version 1.9 and later only)
20120122 20:30:43< Rhonda> ^^
20120122 20:30:53< Rhonda> Use my PPA
20120122 20:30:57< Rhonda> for 1.9.14
20120122 20:31:22< Rhonda> 1.10 will be in precise soonish, and I'll request backports for it then, too
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20120122 20:38:56< toxicsgz> Opps I have a meeting, thx Rhonda ;)
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20120122 21:16:13< lynxlynxlynx> just a note to the forum admins: requiring the original mail for password recovery is very annoying, especially if one registered a long time ago
20120122 21:16:40< shadowm> And what would you suggest instead?
20120122 21:17:44< shadowm> If someone lost access to their original email account and needs to regain access to their forum account, they can send an email to forums@wesnoth.org and help me prove their identity.
20120122 21:19:05< lynxlynxlynx> that helps if you lost access, but i'm not even sure of that
20120122 21:19:14< lynxlynxlynx> i simply lost memory (2004)
20120122 21:20:00< shadowm> Hence I ask what your proposal is. :)
20120122 21:20:12< lynxlynxlynx> the way it usually works is you get a confirmation mail for password reset
20120122 21:20:22< lynxlynxlynx> automatically
20120122 21:20:30< Gambit> What?
20120122 21:20:43< lynxlynxlynx> you enter either the login name or the mail
20120122 21:21:13< shadowm> I think you missed the "Forgot your password?" or such link in the Login page.
20120122 21:21:51< lynxlynxlynx> no, that's what i'm talking about
20120122 21:21:59< lynxlynxlynx> maybe it changed with phpbb3
20120122 21:22:06< Gambit> So we just let anyone claim any account with any email address?
20120122 21:22:10< lynxlynxlynx> i see it is the same with their support board
20120122 21:22:20< lynxlynxlynx> eh?
20120122 21:22:30< lynxlynxlynx> the mail gets sent to the address in the db
20120122 21:22:42< shadowm> Of course.
20120122 21:29:32< lynxlynxlynx> looks like it was the same in v2
20120122 21:29:51< lynxlynxlynx> ipb does have a sane one though, maybe that's where my memory is from: http://community.invisionpower.com/index.php?app=core&module=global&section=lostpass
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20120122 21:38:04< MeanEYE> lynxlynxlynx, you like lynx? :D 
20120122 21:38:32< lynxlynxlynx> sure
20120122 21:38:49< MeanEYE> Who would have thought :) 
20120122 21:39:04< lynxlynxlynx> it's just the full name ;)
20120122 21:39:05< enchilado> The animal or the browser? :o
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20120122 21:45:29< lynxlynxlynx> ok, unwand saved the rest of the hassle
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