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20120202 00:40:16< vultraz> timotei: crashes, still :(
20120202 00:49:48-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 153 bugs, 331 feature requests, 17 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20120202 01:01:26< Ivanovic> stikonas: i'd say: leave it though if you really want to you can send me the file and i upload the "fixed" version
20120202 01:01:49< Ivanovic> Espreon: "soon", that is once Soliton finds the time for it, likle a weekend some time soon
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20120202 01:26:53< stikonas> ok, I'll leave it, it's not a big problem
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20120202 01:59:06< AI0867> crab: are you planning to fix the sighted event? (anonymissumus suggested this) If not, I would like to deprecate it
20120202 02:00:30< shadowm> What would the replacement be, and would it work with 1.10?
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20120202 02:05:15< CIA-90> alarantalara * r52854 /trunk/data/core/ (62 files in 2 dirs): Add fancy new tropical forests by Mephisto again
20120202 02:05:51< shadowm> wesbot: log 52854
20120202 02:05:53< wesbot> alarantalara * r52854 : Add fancy new tropical forests by Mephisto again
20120202 02:05:56< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=52854
20120202 02:06:38< shadowm> Alarantalara: I thought the plan was to keep the current terrain and replace its graphics with the Palm Forest set
20120202 02:06:49< shadowm> and make the new jungle a separate terrain
20120202 02:07:16< Alarantalara> I know, however, the sparse palms don't match up very well to the old forests on hills
20120202 02:07:39< shadowm> hm.
20120202 02:08:30< Alarantalara> I did consider just deprecating the old terrain and making two new ones
20120202 02:09:45< shadowm> deprecating terrains is a whole problem of its own at the moment. IIRC the Ggf conversion was never taught to wmllint
20120202 02:10:12< shadowm> and it'd be nice to drop that and any other deprecated terrains left over from 1.10 before 1.12
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20120202 02:11:47< CIA-90> alarantalara * r52855 /trunk/data/core/ (terrain-graphics.cfg terrain.cfg): Drop terrain deprecated in 1.9
20120202 02:12:12< shadowm> eh
20120202 02:12:32< Alarantalara> It was next on my list of commits to do once trunk opened up
20120202 02:12:35< shadowm> I'd have done it myself if I didn't have concerns about compatibility....
20120202 02:12:44< fendrin> Alarantalara: Can you bring the rain forest back in?
20120202 02:12:57< Alarantalara> see r52854
20120202 02:13:12< fendrin> Alarantalara: Cool, thanks.
20120202 02:13:19< shadowm> that is, those people who weren't paying attention (say, Mr X left the community during 1.7.x and came back during 1.11.x) might not figure out at first why their maps started to make the game abort
20120202 02:14:14< Alarantalara> One of the two deprecated terrains only existed briefly during 1.9, so I'm not concerned about that one at all
20120202 02:15:43< Alarantalara> Hopefully Ggf presents no more problems that Do did (the old oasis terrain)
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20120202 02:17:47< shadowm> I wasn't aware the Oasis terrain was replaced
20120202 02:18:06< Alarantalara> Yup, it changed from a base terrain to an overlay
20120202 02:19:09< shadowm> well, it might still be nice to leave a note in the changelog in case someone missed the memo
20120202 02:19:18< Alarantalara> so it would
20120202 02:19:29< Alarantalara> thanks for reminding me
20120202 02:25:05< CIA-90> alarantalara * r52856 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): Update changelog
20120202 02:29:50< Alarantalara> shadowm: The oasis changed from Do to Dd^Do in 1.3 (r16981). I only found out because there were still vestiges of it in terrain-graphics that I removed during 1.9
20120202 02:30:41< shadowm> well, during 1.3.x the greater terrain strings transition also took place, so if anyone was affected by *that*, it was obviously minor in comparison
20120202 02:31:00< Alarantalara> Yeah, I suspect it was likely Do only temporarily
20120202 02:31:02< shadowm> (i.e. 1.2 maps wouldn't work with 1.4 in any case)
20120202 02:31:11< Alarantalara> now that I know when the change happened
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20120202 02:38:03< CIA-90> alarantalara * r52857 /trunk/RELEASE_NOTES: Update release notes concerning the removed terrain too
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20120202 03:29:17< shadowm> loonycyborg: if I understand correctly, gui2::tnetwork_transmission in download_addons() (addon/manager.cpp) is shown following asynchronous operations such as the add-ons list request for campaignd, right?
20120202 03:32:23< shadowm> and I guess it only returns once the current operation is finished (show() yields true) or the user cancels the dialog (show() yields false); if the latter happens, then the operation continues until the network_asio::connection object is destroyed (in this case, because of several checs for the idalog result that leave the connection's cope if the user cancelled the dialog)
20120202 03:32:36< shadowm> *checks *dialog *scope
20120202 03:41:36< CIA-90> alarantalara * r52858 /trunk/data/core/terrain-graphics.cfg: Improve ford-swamp/mud transitions
20120202 03:43:50< Alarantalara> backport will follow once I finish checking out the 1.10 branch
20120202 03:50:00< CIA-90> alarantalara * r52859 /trunk/data/core/terrain-graphics.cfg: Fix mud-swamp transition when small swamp images used
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20120202 04:12:35< CIA-90> alarantalara * r52860 /branches/1.10/data/core/terrain-graphics.cfg: backport swamp/ford/mud transitions fixes
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20120202 08:10:51< cjhopman> shadowm + others: RE:my goals for 1.12(/1.11) -- have no gui1 dialogs...
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20120202 08:29:20< shadowm> unlikely. There's still some functionality that's hard to replicate in GUI2.
20120202 08:29:41< shadowm> in particular, clickable list column headers for sorting
20120202 08:30:46< cjhopman> The other one I can think of is draggable combo boxes
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20120202 08:31:24< shadowm> I don't think I've seen normal combo-boxes in GUI2 yet either
20120202 08:32:30< cjhopman> I have them in my android build (which isn't quite updated to 1.10 yet)
20120202 08:33:06< cjhopman> or rather, i have the equivalent functionality
20120202 08:37:46< cjhopman> i haven't touched the add-ons dialog at all... but I think I read that you were working/thinking about that one?
20120202 08:39:04< shadowm> I'm not entirely sure I'll be able to work on/provide a fully functional GUI2 alternative for 1.12, but I'm at least planning to move the Publish functionality to a separate GUI2 interface and kill the Update add-ons dialog somehow
20120202 08:43:12< timotei> I can't wait to get a Raspberry Pi
20120202 08:43:20< timotei> I do hope I can use that as a server xD
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20120202 08:54:04< cjhopman> The Raspberry Pi (and such further miniaturization) is way interesting...
20120202 08:57:00< timotei> If they make it customizable, like add more RAM / Processor power for additional money, it would be cool
20120202 08:57:27< timotei> And I'm really interesting if it will be able to run Windows 8 ARM Edition :D
20120202 08:57:31< timotei> interested*
20120202 09:01:40< cjhopman> I see it more as an indication that in the future (/near future), a general purpose computer will be so cheap that using one will add only a negligible cost to a product... 
20120202 09:05:50< shadowm> loonycyborg: does the Boost.asio code support IPv6 atm? Just out of curiosity, since I'm being reminded right now that our hostname:port parsing obviously doesn't work with IPv6
20120202 09:05:54< cjhopman> Note that this year, many tv's that are being introduced include google tv (which is essentially built on linux)... I think Tesla's car navigation is build on linux... 
20120202 09:06:32< timotei> cjhopman: As long as I am able to have a server that doesn't consume much current, it's the best.
20120202 09:06:36< shadowm> loonycyborg: that is, with real numeric IPv6 addresses
20120202 09:07:17< timotei> I mean, I could create a Pi farm to replace one big kuhana server that takes 300 times more power.
20120202 09:07:18< shadowm> e.g. if I give it ::1 it will probably do something really stupid like passing an empty hostname and port to the Asio backend
20120202 09:07:20< timotei> draws*
20120202 09:07:56< cjhopman> timotei: yeah... all this stuff means for me that when I get around to building a NAS or HTPC it will be way low-cost and low-power
20120202 09:09:19< cjhopman> or that I can use a Raspberry Pi for some one-off experiment with little investment
20120202 09:09:31< timotei> yeah
20120202 09:10:17< timotei> Oh, it's kahuna not kuhana :))
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20120202 10:08:48< Ivanovic> moin
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20120202 11:13:27< loonycyborg> shadowm: There definitely is support for ipv6 in asio.
20120202 11:14:10< loonycyborg> Probably if campaignd's DNS record had only AAAA records it would just work.
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20120202 11:20:52< loonycyborg> shadowm: iirc there's some notation to use ipv6 in host:port.
20120202 11:31:14< loonycyborg> shadowm: And you got everything right wrt gui2::tnetwork_transmission
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20120202 11:53:52< CIA-90> loonycyborg * r52861 /trunk/src/addon/manager.cpp: Removed redundant lexical_cast which was there for historical reasons.
20120202 12:26:37< Ivanovic> wesbot: seen boucman
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20120202 12:26:53< Ivanovic> boucman: do you already know when you'll arrive in brussels?
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20120202 15:21:59< Ivanovic> AI0867, boucman, mordante: your phone numbers are still the same as last year?
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20120202 17:54:54< AI0867> Ivanovic: mine is
20120202 17:55:30< AI0867> shadowm: [filter_vision]
20120202 17:56:07< CIA-90> fendrin * r52863 /trunk/ (12 files in 4 dirs): Implemented the feature request in bug #10978
20120202 17:56:08< CIA-90> alarantalara * r52862 /trunk/projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Clean up system frameworks for Xcode project
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20120202 17:58:21< Ivanovic_> AI0867: do you already know when you will (approximately) arrive in brussels?
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20120202 18:01:31< Ivanovic_> AI0867: i assume that you will be traveling with mordante again, ist this correct?
20120202 18:06:21< fendrin> shadowm: The concerns you raised in bug #10978 were only aimed at the debug feature, not the feature for the player, right?
20120202 18:09:28< Crab_> fendrin: from what I see, doing it in start-of-scenario is ok (of course, not all campaigns will support such modifications, but that's a different matter)
20120202 18:11:27< fendrin> Crab_: Agreed.
20120202 18:14:19< fendrin> Crab_: My tests haven't shown any problems so far when modifying the difficulty of a prestart savefile. I don't know about a campaign that might make problems in mainline.
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20120202 18:15:29< Crab_> fendrin: none of the campaigns made a guarantee that it would work. of course, it should just work in mainline, just noone checked for that.
20120202 18:16:31< Crab_> fendrin: it's similar to the 'this campaign can be played from each scenario, even if you skip levels via :cl ' guarantee - none of the campaigns make it, but some just work (if they use [unit] instead of [recall] for 'must-be-alive-at-this-point' characters)
20120202 18:17:24< fendrin> Well, it is not so hard to make a campaign supporting the feature.
20120202 18:17:29< Crab_> fendrin: definitely.
20120202 18:18:00< Crab_> fendrin: It's just that noone specifically cared for this.
20120202 18:18:02< fendrin> Still there needs to be some appointment for UMC developers to check for.
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20120202 18:36:59< Oleg|percona> Hi guys!
20120202 18:37:08< Oleg|percona> https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?19396
20120202 18:37:14< Oleg|percona> This is small bug and fix for it :)
20120202 18:37:32< Oleg|percona> I also want discuss about http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=36034&p=519981
20120202 18:38:52< Crab_> Hi
20120202 18:39:47< Oleg|percona> Crab_: Hi!
20120202 18:39:58< Oleg|percona> fix is ok for you?
20120202 18:40:23< Crab_> the patch looks ok
20120202 18:41:09< Oleg|percona> Crab_: Will you include it?
20120202 18:41:45< Crab_> yes, in several hours, if no one else will do so before me.
20120202 18:42:12< Crab_> also, if this is your first patch to wesnoth, you should add yourself to data/core/about.cfg, in the misc.contributors section
20120202 18:42:36< Oleg|percona> Crab_: Will do, one minute please
20120202 18:43:09< Crab_> And, about the forum post - it's probably ok to add extra info to the save_index, and then use it in the load game dialog to group/filter things. it would be nice to agree on the look of the dialog, since other developers might have their opinions on how it should look like and what options should be available.
20120202 18:43:31< Oleg|percona> Crab_: I have question related to this post...
20120202 18:43:44< Oleg|percona> Crab_: I didn't see how save_index_cfg used in source code
20120202 18:44:01< Oleg|percona> Crab_: Looks like this file supported and never used after load... 
20120202 18:46:15< Oleg|percona> Crab_: I uploaded new version of patch 
20120202 18:46:19< Oleg|percona> Crab_: Where are you from?
20120202 18:46:22< Crab_> No one uses savegame::save_index::load() ?
20120202 18:46:33< Crab_> I'm from Ukraine, but working in Poland
20120202 18:46:52< Oleg|percona> Crab_: I see calls of "savegame::save_index::load()", but nobody use loaded save_index_cfg (result of load)
20120202 18:47:13< Oleg|percona> Crab_: I'm from Russia :) May be go to private chat and switch to russian? This is more comfortable for me
20120202 18:47:41< Crab_> yes, we can. but, it'd be really better if we do this in 1.5h - 2h (I'll get home by then)
20120202 18:47:50< Crab_> will this be ok for you?
20120202 18:48:08< Oleg|percona> Crab_: I will be offline probablyt... I'm 3 a.m. (Irkutsk)
20120202 18:48:16< Crab_> yes, I see
20120202 18:48:19< Oleg|percona> Crab_: But probably I will be online :)
20120202 18:48:23< Oleg|percona> Crab_: One minute please
20120202 18:48:32< Oleg|percona> Crab_: Last 5 minutes :) Quick char  for questions
20120202 18:48:37< Oleg|percona> Crab_: see private chat
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20120202 19:04:50< mordante> servus
20120202 19:11:02< mordante> Ivanovic, ich erinnere mich nicht ganz an dem McDonalds
20120202 19:15:10< Oleg|percona> Hi again guys
20120202 19:15:11< Oleg|percona> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/GUI
20120202 19:15:22< Oleg|percona> Anybody implementing Tabs for "get addons" dialog?
20120202 19:15:26< Oleg|percona> I want implement this task
20120202 19:15:35< Espreon> mordante: No comes, ¡o te harás gordo!
20120202 19:15:58< Espreon> Oleg|percona: mordante is the Lord of GUI2, so I'd ask him.
20120202 19:16:17< Oleg|percona> mordante: hi!
20120202 19:16:25< Oleg|percona> mordante: Are you drive the GUI in the BoW?
20120202 19:16:42< Espreon> Hmmm, wait, that dialog may still be GUI1...
20120202 19:16:43< Oleg|percona> mordante: I am developer and I want to help project :)
20120202 19:16:47< Espreon> ... but I dunno.
20120202 19:16:54< Espreon> Too exhausted to think.
20120202 19:16:56< Oleg|percona> Espreon: What is "GUI2" and "GUI1"?
20120202 19:16:57< mordante> Espreon, see I used the wrong chan ;-)
20120202 19:17:12< mordante> Oleg|percona, hi, yeah I'm working on the GUI
20120202 19:17:12< Espreon> Oleg|percona: GUI1 is the old GUI toolkit; GUI2 is the new GUI toolkit.
20120202 19:17:20< Espreon> GUI1 is icky and needs to die...
20120202 19:17:25< Oleg|percona> Espreon: Current svn is old or new GUI?
20120202 19:17:32< Espreon> Oleg|percona: A mix.
20120202 19:17:35< Espreon> It's been a mix for years.
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20120202 19:17:49< Oleg|percona> Espreon: mordante: Ok, I want implement Tabs in the "Get addons" dialog. Can I?
20120202 19:17:52< Espreon> mordante: Really now?
20120202 19:17:58< Espreon> Hmmm...
20120202 19:18:21< Oleg|percona> Espreon: mordante: Just tabs for start, after that I will implement feature "show detail information on click on the addon"
20120202 19:18:35< Oleg|percona> Espreon: mordante: As showed in the picture in on the http://wiki.wesnoth.org/GUI
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20120202 19:19:11< Oleg|percona> guys? :)
20120202 19:19:27< Oleg|percona> brb in 2 minutes
20120202 19:20:08< Espreon> Sadly, I can't really help.
20120202 19:24:35< mordante> Oleg|percona, which image do you exactly mean on this page?
20120202 19:24:55< Oleg|percona> mordante: http://exong.net/wesnoth-attach/files/download_campaign_dialog3_919.png
20120202 19:25:14< Oleg|percona> mordante: I want implement this :)
20120202 19:25:39< mordante> including the "+" to expand the line?
20120202 19:26:03< Oleg|percona> mordante: Yes, as second stage.
20120202 19:26:20< Oleg|percona> mordante: First I want understand how to submit changes to project
20120202 19:26:29< Oleg|percona> mordante: I filled small bug and prepared the fix for it https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?19396
20120202 19:26:36< Oleg|percona> mordante: What the my next steps?
20120202 19:26:41< mordante> at the moment in GUI2 is that listbox class needs to be rewritten
20120202 19:27:05< Oleg|percona> mordante: Do you have bug for this? Or may be you can describe how exactly?
20120202 19:27:29< mordante> Oleg|percona, next time best post a patch under patches, we tend to look at a patch faster as at a bug
20120202 19:27:44< Oleg|percona> mordante: Where I should post the patch?
20120202 19:27:51< Oleg|percona> mordante: By the way - main repostiory is svn or git?
20120202 19:28:44< Ivanovic> Oleg|percona: patches.wesnoth.org
20120202 19:30:08< Oleg|percona> Ivanovic: mordante: Espreon: https://gna.org/patch/index.php?3102
20120202 19:30:09< Oleg|percona> :)
20120202 19:30:19< mordante> Oleg|percona, it's svn but if you prefer git we have a git tarball to use with git-svn
20120202 19:30:33< mordante> thanks
20120202 19:30:40< Oleg|percona> mordante: no-no, svn is ok for me, I jus want understand which repository is main
20120202 19:30:55< Oleg|percona> mordante: So, about the GUI2/listbox/http://exong.net/wesnoth-attach/files/download_campaign_dialog3_919.png
20120202 19:31:02< Oleg|percona> mordante: How we can drive this task? :)
20120202 19:31:34< Oleg|percona> mordante: Please describe me how you see implementation of http://exong.net/wesnoth-attach/files/download_campaign_dialog3_919.png
20120202 19:31:34< Oleg|percona> I can just implement this and submit the patch. This is ok?
20120202 19:31:44< mordante> Oleg|percona, I'm about to leave for dinner, so better talk about it when I'm back
20120202 19:32:05< Oleg|percona> mordante: Ok :) I will wait you. Who can answer to this questions except you?...
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20120202 19:39:17< Crab_> (I'm back)
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20120202 19:44:18< shadowm> loonycyborg: okay, good to know, I don't need to redo a bunch of code then :p
20120202 19:44:29< shadowm> AI0867: yes, but exactly how is it to be used?
20120202 19:44:52< shadowm> Ivanovic: so, as I asked you the other day, why didn't you publish the call for help with screenshots etc. in a public forum?
20120202 19:45:00< shadowm> fendrin: both
20120202 19:46:49< shadowm> loonycyborg: anyway my concern isn't so much with the addons client code, but rather with the MP client code, assuming it uses a similar piece that relies on broken assumptions
20120202 19:47:23< shadowm> i.e. perhaps some day IPv6 will be more common in LANs
20120202 19:54:10< loonycyborg> It seems that ipv6 isn't even supported by sdl_net version we're using.
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20120202 19:55:24< shadowm> yes, I think I pointe dout that SDL_net doesn't support it at all without a specific patch that's not merged upstream
20120202 19:55:53< shadowm> (all the more reason to get rid of SDL_net as soon as possible!)
20120202 20:00:14< mordante> Oleg|percona, back
20120202 20:00:37< mordante> shadowm, I prefer the right aligned buttons, that's why I added them like that
20120202 20:00:59< Oleg|percona> mordante: cool
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20120202 20:01:20< mordante> Oleg|percona, how familiar are you with the Wesnoth code?
20120202 20:01:24< Oleg|percona> mordante: I have problems with englush... so, I don't understand your last sentence
20120202 20:01:25< shadowm> mordante: then why are they centered in tmessage?
20120202 20:01:34< Oleg|percona> mordante: I have 10-year experience of C++ development :)
20120202 20:01:44< Oleg|percona> mordante: Right now I'm MySQL/InnoDB developer
20120202 20:01:54< Oleg|percona> mordante: So I read the source code, and code is very pretty for me :)
20120202 20:02:04< Oleg|percona> mordante: Nothing complex from my point of view
20120202 20:02:21< Oleg|percona> mordante: Right now I am learning the *.cfg files and how their parsed by wesnoth...
20120202 20:02:33< Oleg|percona> mordante: I am investigating how to support "tab list" container.
20120202 20:02:40< Oleg|percona> mordante: Like this: http://exong.net/wesnoth-attach/files/download_campaign_dialog3_919.png
20120202 20:03:10< shadowm> Oleg|percona: just noting, I'm refactoring most of the add-ons management code in a yet-unpublished branch. That area is probably best to avoid right now since it currently lends itself to excessive code duplication.
20120202 20:03:29< Oleg|percona> shadowm: thank you for your message
20120202 20:03:35< Oleg|percona> shadowm: do you use svn or git?
20120202 20:04:03< shadowm> Wesnoth uses svn. I use git-svn.
20120202 20:04:31< Oleg|percona> shadowm: Cool. So, are you implemneted/plan to implemented tabs as on picture?...
20120202 20:04:39< Oleg|percona> *plan to implement
20120202 20:04:51< mordante> shadowm, I like right when there are multiple buttons
20120202 20:04:54< shadowm> No, I'm only working on the back-end logic, nut the user interface.
20120202 20:05:09< Gambit> Please no ratings D:
20120202 20:05:18< Oleg|percona> shadowm: mordante: Can I handle the gui task?
20120202 20:05:23< shadowm> Although as a result of my refactoring I may change some UI aspects, I'm not going to work on a new add-ons list right now.
20120202 20:05:44< Oleg|percona> shadowm: If you share your brancn on github/another hosting, I can start work on GUI for addons
20120202 20:05:55< Oleg|percona> shadowm: And so catch some bugs :)
20120202 20:06:00< Ivanovic> shadowm: clearly "because"
20120202 20:06:13< Ivanovic> shadowm: that is: feel free to make the request (more) public
20120202 20:06:31< mordante> Oleg|percona, I'm not working on that part of the GUI so if shadowm isn't working on it feel free to tackle it
20120202 20:06:34< Ivanovic> though i fear that it might result in some (significantly) increased data amounts in case that really many send in pics
20120202 20:07:01< Ivanovic> which is problematic since i'll be looking for a new flat soon and will (at least in the early months) not have unlimited bandwidth there
20120202 20:07:14< shadowm> Oleg|percona: I haven't finished refactoring code yet, so what I have at the moment won't work. It's also not very convenient for me to publish a ~ 2 GiBs git repository anywhere since my connection cannot handle that much and I have monthly quotas (mobile broadband)
20120202 20:07:23< CIA-90> crab * r52864 /trunk/ (data/core/about.cfg src/savegame.cpp): Allow save_index.gz to be gzipped. Patch by Oleg Tsarev. Bug #19396
20120202 20:07:29< Crab_> Oleg|percona: ^
20120202 20:07:33< Oleg|percona> shadowm: ok....
20120202 20:07:42< shadowm> save_index.gz wasn't gzipped already?
20120202 20:07:42< Oleg|percona> Crab_: thank you :)
20120202 20:07:48< mordante> Oleg|percona, I think we first need a tabcontrol. It was my intention to base it upon the multipage widget
20120202 20:08:05< Oleg|percona> shadowm: Now gzipped right :)
20120202 20:08:16< shadowm> yeah
20120202 20:08:18< shadowm> shadowm@reicore:~$ file .wesnoth-1.10/save_index.gz  
20120202 20:08:18< shadowm> .wesnoth-1.10/save_index.gz: ASCII text, with very long lines
20120202 20:09:00< Oleg|percona> shadowm:  yes :) emacs keep crazy from it!
20120202 20:09:36< loonycyborg> shadowm: ipv6 adresses in URLs are escaped with []
20120202 20:10:06< shadowm> mordante: it'd probably be best to right-align those buttons regardless of how many of them are visible at once then, for consistency
20120202 20:10:07< loonycyborg> Probably instead of implementing URL parsing we should add a separate GUI field for ports.
20120202 20:11:01< Oleg|percona> mordante: go to private chat
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20120202 20:15:07< Oleg|percona> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
20120202 20:15:08< Oleg|percona> r34967 | jhinrichs | 2009-04-17 03:24:01 +0900 (Fri, 17 Apr 2009) | 2 lines
20120202 20:15:08< Oleg|percona> Savegame reorganization Step 1: Providing a simpler interface to saving and loading.
20120202 20:15:08< Oleg|percona> Move save_index stuff to savegame.cpp and do some dependency cleanup.
20120202 20:15:08< Oleg|percona> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
20120202 20:15:17< Oleg|percona> by the way, what the general idea of "save_index.gz"?
20120202 20:15:50< Oleg|percona> I want use it for support http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=36034&p=519981 but save_index_cfg just writing/reading, and not really using anywhere..
20120202 20:16:31< shadowm> The save_index file is used to cache some information from saved games to not have to open and read them every single time when the user brings up the Load Game dialog, apparently. It's currently somewhat broken for some cases.
20120202 20:17:19< shadowm> Start-of-scenario saves, in particular, tend to be displayed with incorrect information when the cache exists.
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20120202 20:19:30< Crab_> Oleg|percona: see src/dialogs.cpp line 600
20120202 20:19:50< Crab_> Oleg|percona: config& cfg = savegame::save_index::save_summary(i->name);
20120202 20:20:06< Oleg|percona> Crab_: just reading and writing
20120202 20:20:25< Oleg|percona> Crab_: src/gui/dialogs/game_load.cpp - directly read the files, instead of save_index
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20120202 20:23:10< Crab_> src/gui/dialogs/game_load.cpp - that's the gui2 version of the dialog, if it's not using the index, it's not good. old load game dialog used it.
20120202 20:26:58< shadowm> the GUI2 version of the dialog isn't used unless --new-widgets is passed in the command line
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20120202 20:48:08< shadowm> what would be the proper noun for the opposite of publishing?
20120202 20:48:32< shadowm> I'm tempted to use "unpublish" :p
20120202 20:52:41< Alarantalara> The only thing that comes to my mind is "censor"
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20120202 20:56:46< Gambit> shadowm: "remove" works fine
20120202 20:57:21< shadowm> not really. There's already a confusion in the API between "remove" and "delete"
20120202 20:57:52< shadowm> "remove" is used to refer to the action of sending a campaignd request to take an add-on down, and "delete" to uninstall a locally-installed add-on.
20120202 20:58:05< Alarantalara> If it's to remove published material: recall and retract
20120202 20:59:46< shadowm> well I'll stick to:  void delete_remote_addon(const std::string& id);
20120202 21:00:06< shadowm> boolean, rather
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20120202 21:42:58< anonymissimus> fendrin: what happens with your feature in case that it's not a start-of-scenario save ?
20120202 21:43:46< Crab_> we should check. if things break, then it should be only limited to start-of-scenario saves...
20120202 21:45:05< anonymissimus> well, it should really be limited, since turn saves are already preprocessed, meaning that changing the diffculty can't have effect, which will confuse players, so it should be disabled for turn saves
20120202 21:45:43< mordante> I'm off now
20120202 21:45:56< Crab_> anonymissimus: yes, you're right
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20120202 22:11:32< fendrin> anonymissimus: Hmmm, I don't know exactly. This would need to be tested.
20120202 22:14:38< anonymissimus> hm and where in the UI is it ? I don't see a toggle button; do I need --new-widgets ?
20120202 22:14:50< fendrin> anonymissimus: yes
20120202 22:15:02< fendrin> Espreon: ^ 
20120202 22:15:48< anonymissimus> ah okay, the whole dialog is a gui2 one then I guess
20120202 22:16:14< fendrin> anonymissimus: Indeed. It is still not backported to gui1.
20120202 22:16:40< anonymissimus> interestingly, I see the image not found image
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20120202 22:18:09< fendrin> hi boucman
20120202 22:18:17< Ivanovic> hi boucman
20120202 22:18:23< boucman> hey
20120202 22:18:25< Ivanovic> boucman: what are your travel plans for fosdem?
20120202 22:18:39< Ivanovic> meaning: will you join us for dinner on friday and how do you plan to travel in brussels?
20120202 22:18:43< boucman> i'm coming by car tomorow in the afternoon
20120202 22:19:11< boucman> my phone number hasn't changed, but I won't be at 2go4
20120202 22:19:35< Ivanovic> the current plan is for me to gather Crab_ at dortmund airport, drive to ULB and then take the bus into the town center
20120202 22:20:06< boucman> k
20120202 22:20:14< Ivanovic> there we plan to meet fendrin (hopefully) at about 17:00 at the "quick" burger join at this position: http://maps.google.be/maps?saddr=50.846516,4.354373&hl=en&sll=50.846482,4.354349&sspn=0.00155,0.001711&mra=mift&mrsp=0&sz=19&t=h&z=19
20120202 22:20:19< boucman> worse case I'll join you at the pizza in the evening
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20120202 22:20:37< Ivanovic> (he has no mobile phone atm, so we need a fixed location plus some kind of timing data)
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20120202 22:21:04< Ivanovic> then it is time to magically meet mordante and AI0867, head over to 2go4 and get the beds
20120202 22:21:15< Ivanovic> afterwards heading over to the greek at the known location
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20120202 22:22:34< boucman> ok, i'll probably meet you at the greek, i'll have noted all the phone numbers before leaving
20120202 22:22:44< Ivanovic> good
20120202 22:23:15< Ivanovic> elias will meet us at the greek later in the evening, he hopes to arrive at 2go4 sometime around 7pm, so he'll be late for dinner
20120202 22:27:38< anonymissimus> well, seems a bit buggy the whole dialog, so it's good that's it's not yet backported ;)
20120202 22:30:17< fendrin> anonymissimus: What is buggy?
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20120202 23:42:12< anonymissimus> "he developpers neither know how delayed_variable_substitution= works exactly nor have idea how it should work without bugs" :shock:
20120202 23:42:30< anonymissimus> well, at least I dunno smilies
20120202 23:42:55< anonymissimus> fendrin: blargh
20120202 23:46:54< fendrin> anonymissimus: ?
20120202 23:47:40< vultraz> how DOES delayed car sub work
20120202 23:47:44< vultraz> var*
20120202 23:48:15< fendrin> No idea. I always thought it would be done by black magic.
20120202 23:49:44< vultraz> I guess maybe it means like....if you have a nested event, don't sub the vars in the nested event until the parent even is triggered?
20120202 23:51:17< vultraz> event*
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