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20120203 00:12:15< timotei> vultraz: hi :D
20120203 00:12:16< timotei> how's going?
20120203 00:12:37< vultraz> xcode build still crashes :(
20120203 00:12:45< timotei> The same error?
20120203 00:12:51< timotei> you might want to ping mordante about it then.
20120203 00:13:29< vultraz> I did
20120203 00:13:31< vultraz> before
20120203 00:13:37< vultraz> told me to run valgrind
20120203 00:13:46< vultraz> nothing came of it
20120203 00:13:47< vultraz> :(
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20120203 00:17:24< timotei> Hmm
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20120203 00:49:18< anonymissimus> fendrin: I didn't sufficiently track down any bugs for making a report, period.
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20120203 00:52:49< anonymissimus> vultraz: delayed=yes is the normal case; it means that the attribute values of a vconfig variable (userdata var with metatable "wml object" in lua) are substituted when they are accessed
20120203 00:53:33< anonymissimus> delayed=no enforces a variable substitution run on such a  wml object
20120203 00:53:49< vultraz> ok....
20120203 00:54:18< anonymissimus> it is the same as when you write a wml tag in lua and call the __parsed field
20120203 00:54:18< anonymissimus> that means delayed=no
20120203 00:54:37< anonymissimus> as opposed to when you let the variable in its vconfig userdata state
20120203 00:54:43< anonymissimus> remain
20120203 00:55:38< anonymissimus> vultraz: also, this http://wiki.wesnoth.org/EventWML#Multiple_Nested_Events you should understand
20120203 00:55:51< anonymissimus> (especiall slowthinker as well)
20120203 00:56:34< anonymissimus> i wrote that into the wiki at a time I didn't yet know the lua tags IIRC
20120203 01:29:00< Alarantalara> vultraz: I don't know if will make a difference, but I changed the system frameworks in the Xcode version to a smaller set
20120203 01:30:22< vultraz> hum
20120203 01:30:37< vultraz> I don't really understand what that means
20120203 01:30:40< vultraz> lol
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20120203 01:46:59< anonymissimus> Alarantalara: as far as the visual appearance is concerned, the palm forest matches teh old tropical forest much better
20120203 01:47:37< anonymissimus> IIRC I suggested to create a new terrain "rain forest" or so which uses the new realistic tropical forest
20120203 01:47:53< anonymissimus> so that beachy maps don't need to be updated
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20120203 01:52:06< Alarantalara> When I looked at the mainline multiplayer maps up to 4 players, the more appropriate forest seemed split about half and half
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20120203 03:03:12< CIA-90> alarantalara * r52865 /trunk/data/core/terrain-graphics/misc.cfg: Reduce animation overhead for animated walls
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20120203 05:03:55< shadowm> AI0867: I just hit the is_old_style hack found throughout addon/manager.cpp. It'd have been nice if you updated the Doxygen comments for the functions to which you added new arguments or new return semantics...
20120203 05:04:31< shadowm> Of course at this point it's a moot point since I'm rewriting all that.
20120203 05:05:53< shadowm> AI0867: oh, sorry, wrong A-guy
20120203 05:06:02< shadowm> anonymissimus: everything above
20120203 05:07:05< shadowm> !log 49720
20120203 05:07:08< shikadibot> shadowm: Revision 49720 (anonymissimus) on Wed Jun  1 12:25:31 2011:
20120203 05:07:08< shikadibot> shadowm: check whether we're using old style /Addon.pbl or new Addon/_server.pbl
20120203 05:07:11< shikadibot> shadowm: syntax when uploading initially
20120203 05:07:12< shikadibot> shadowm: (fix for bug #17419)
20120203 05:07:13< shikadibot> shadowm: Web interface URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=49720
20120203 05:08:23< shadowm> I wish I could still drink coffee...
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20120203 05:55:22< CIA-90> shadowmaster * r52866 /trunk/src/addon/ (manager.cpp manager.hpp): Undo the undocumented interface changes in r49720 and refactor code a little to keep the actual bugfix
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20120203 06:16:16< Oleg|percona> Hi guys
20120203 06:16:20< Oleg|percona> Quick question
20120203 06:16:48< Oleg|percona> which difference between "campaign_define" and "campaign" in the save files/classification in soruce code?
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20120203 06:23:26< shadowm> .campaign and .campaign_define correspond to campaign.id and campaign.define from http://wiki.wesnoth.org/CampaignWML , respectively
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20120203 06:53:13< Oleg|percona> shadowm: This define related just to WML?
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20120203 06:58:30< shadowm> yes, it's used to select the code paths to load the campaign's resources and scenarios, etc.
20120203 07:04:51< Oleg|percona> shadowm: thank you
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20120203 07:22:59< vultraz> agggghhhhh
20120203 07:23:01< vultraz> what is wrong with my computer :(
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20120203 07:29:06< shadowm> so we have request_campaign_list, request_campaign, request_terms, upload, delete, change_passphrase but no request_information_for_a_single_campaign or suchlike.
20120203 07:29:11< shadowm> :/
20120203 07:29:43< shadowm> furthermore, change_passphrase is only used by the Python client
20120203 07:31:37< shadowm> and request_campaign doesn't send any metadata
20120203 07:33:19< shadowm> of course I could easily implement that yadda yadda, but I don't really want to break backwards compatibility yet, so my code should be able to speak to the 1.8 and 1.10 campaignds...
20120203 07:34:55< shadowm> I guess I'll just put a very visible notice to remind me to ponder this later.
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20120203 09:33:12< Ivanovic> fabi, AI0867: might be that i am a little later than planned, seems like Crab_'s flight has a delay of about one hour
20120203 09:33:57< fabi> Ivanovic: okay
20120203 09:34:19< Ivanovic> not 100% sure regarding the time of arrival (yet)
20120203 09:34:35< Ivanovic> so don't be surprised if i am in the quick only at about 17_30
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20120203 09:39:08< fabi> Ivanovic: 18:23 ist noch eine mögliche Ankunftszeit für mich. 
20120203 09:40:01< fabi> Ivanovic: If you are late I am better with that time.
20120203 09:42:28< Ivanovic> i won't be *THIS* late!
20120203 09:42:54< Ivanovic> and i still have no idea when AI0867 will arrive
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20120203 21:05:06< CIA-90> shadowmaster * r52867 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 
20120203 21:05:06< CIA-90> Initial re-refactoring of the add-ons client code
20120203 21:05:06< CIA-90> * Moved a substantial part of the logic to the addons_client class,
20120203 21:05:06< CIA-90> which handles lower-level operations like downloading, installing,
20120203 21:05:06< CIA-90> publishing and deleting remote add-ons
20120203 21:05:06< CIA-90> * addons_client also handles displaying the network status window
20120203 21:05:07< CIA-90> * Some translatable strings were rewritten or moved around
20120203 21:08:07< CIA-90> shadowmaster * r52868 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/network_transmission.cpp: gui2/tnetwork_transmission: Allow usage of Pango markup for the message text
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20120203 21:18:41< CIA-90> shadowmaster * r52869 /trunk/src/ (49 files in 9 dirs): New year copyright update, part 2
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20120203 21:48:35< fabian_> hi Ivanovic
20120203 21:48:57< fabian_> Any news about the fosdem folks?
20120203 21:49:05< fabian_> I am waiting here since 5 hours.
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20120203 23:03:40< anonymissimus> shadowm: blargh; I do not not nothing about doxygen
20120203 23:03:56< anonymissimus> not know nothing
20120203 23:04:17< Espreon> So then you do know something.™
20120203 23:04:30< anonymissimus> also, your post http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=520068#p520068 is kind of useless
20120203 23:05:26< anonymissimus> (finally, an opportunity to critisize a post of yours)
20120203 23:06:56< Espreon> anonymissimus: Since you know something about doxygen, tell us what you know, O doxygen sage.
20120203 23:08:27< shadowm_laptop> anonymissimus: it isn't useless if the user missed it
20120203 23:10:11< shadowm_laptop> in case you still don't get it, many people miss the installer link and download the source instead/think the source is the only form that's available from us
20120203 23:18:38< anonymissimus> Espreon: not sure about my grammar, but "not not x" in languages is usually "absolutely not x" as opposed to "x"
20120203 23:19:24< anonymissimus> shadowm_laptop: well then you should have written something like "in case you just missed the download for the .exe ..."
20120203 23:20:05< shadowm_laptop> I don't feel it necessary.
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20120203 23:22:42< Espreon> anonymissimus: Too bad. This is English; we interpret double negatives as positives.
20120203 23:24:02< anonymissimus> Espreon: ah ok, in that case I simply know absolutely nothing about doxygen
20120203 23:24:13< Espreon> All right, then.
20120203 23:24:55< shadowm_laptop> it only takes careful observation
20120203 23:25:31< anonymissimus> ugh: http://gna.org/bugs/?19402
20120203 23:25:47< anonymissimus> sure there are...mordantes changes...
20120203 23:25:56< Espreon> Have fun!
20120203 23:25:59< anonymissimus> and a few other things...
20120203 23:26:12< anonymissimus> I don't feel like being able to do that
20120203 23:28:09< anonymissimus> but if we do that then early in the 1.11 cycle may be a good spot
20120203 23:29:49< shadowm_laptop> here's an idea: ask mordante
20120203 23:32:03< anonymissimus> ask him to do it because he made most of those changes ? (all ?)
20120203 23:32:56< shadowm_laptop> that's what you implied above
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20120203 23:48:58< anonymissimus> ah..great...your latest revisions seem to have introduced some compiler errors for me shadowm
20120203 23:49:21< shadowm_laptop> I hope to hear of them some day
20120203 23:50:47< anonymissimus> well need to make a rebuild to see whether MSVC is just confused
20120203 23:55:26< anonymissimus> doesn't look like it
20120203 23:56:06< anonymissimus> i get a lot for unit_types.hpp and it doesn't make sense, so probably something about the inclusion (order)
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20120203 23:58:50< anonymissimus> (and MinGw complains as well)
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