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20120209 00:43:06< Ivanovic_> shadowm: i got libsdl 1.2.15 here and observed no resize problems so far
20120209 00:43:13< Ivanovic_> though i gave it no extensive testing
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20120209 00:51:29< shadowm> 0 bugs! yay!
20120209 00:51:45< shadowm> we're free at last!
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20120209 00:56:07< Espreon> Ivanovic: And what about my amazing uk_UA.cfg?
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20120209 01:20:10< anonymissimus> omg all my dreams have come true
20120209 01:20:28< anonymissimus> BUG COUNT=0!!
20120209 01:22:12< anonymissimus> now, wouldn't that look nice ?
20120209 01:23:29< Espreon> Ivanovic: Screw it, I'll just post it and see what he says.
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20120209 01:34:09< vultraz> woah. where are all the bugs
20120209 01:37:57< shadowm> "Gna! server did not survive a reboot while upgrading its main OS. It should be fixed and replaced by new hardware if needed by Friday 10 feb."
20120209 01:38:11< shadowm> see http://gna.org
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20120209 01:39:19< shadowm> very bad timing.
20120209 01:39:42< shadowm> I imagine the subversion server is hosted on the same system
20120209 01:39:46< shadowm> !log head
20120209 01:39:47< shikadibot> shadowm: Revision head (<Anonymous>) on Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970:
20120209 01:39:47< shikadibot> shadowm: <Invalid commit>
20120209 01:39:47< shikadibot> shadowm: Web interface URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=head
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20120209 01:42:20< shadowm> ah well, I guess I can still remember the rest of the FR from memory
20120209 01:53:17< anonymissimus> perhaps it was too difficult for them to figure out how to handle their Debian system
20120209 01:53:41< shadowm> it was a lenny->squeeze upgrade
20120209 01:53:55< anonymissimus> yeah
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20120209 02:00:05< AI0867> Espreon: I ran the script, but not the makefiles
20120209 02:00:15< AI0867> well, I did run them, but ran into some odd results
20120209 02:00:45< AI0867> if I ran the topmost makefile, all strings would get Invasion_from_the_Unknown/ (or similar) prepended to their paths
20120209 02:00:53< AI0867> if I ran it from the /po dir, they wouldn't
20120209 02:01:02< AI0867> in both cases, massive amounts of strings would be changed
20120209 02:01:09< AI0867> so I'm not sure what to do here. Ideas?
20120209 02:01:49< Espreon> AI0867: We decide which directory to run it from.
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20120209 02:14:13< anonymissimus> AI0867: have you made progress with wmlxgettext ?
20120209 02:14:29< anonymissimus> or should I assign a bug to you
20120209 02:14:42< anonymissimus> once that gna is back...
20120209 02:22:40< AI0867> root is probably preferable
20120209 02:22:51< AI0867> anonymissimus: ?
20120209 02:22:59< AI0867> I'm probably the resident expert on it now
20120209 02:23:12< AI0867> that is, I'm the only one who's actually worked with it
20120209 02:25:51< shadowm> [1]  + 5517 continued  git commit -a
20120209 02:25:51< shadowm> [master 3fea5a7] Add an option to reset all hotkeys in Hotkey Settings in Preferences (bug #3797)
20120209 02:25:56< shadowm> <3
20120209 02:26:08< AI0867> mordante: looks like you were right about boost::filesystem. debian stable's version (1.42) doesn't have v3 yet, though testing (1.48) no longer has v2. I could start my work under an #ifdef, but at the current rate of release-critical bugs, it looks like wheezy will remain as testing for another year or so
20120209 02:27:21< shadowm> is it worse than squeeze's situation on February 2010?
20120209 02:27:30< shadowm> (haven't looked at stats yet)
20120209 02:27:39< AI0867> not really
20120209 02:27:50< AI0867> but extrapolating the current curve says 2013 at the earliest
20120209 02:28:12< shadowm> well, squeeze was frozen mid-2010 and released on February 2011
20120209 02:28:22< shadowm> or March
20120209 02:28:35< AI0867> question is, can you recognize that in the RC bug stats?
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20120209 02:29:15< AI0867> http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/
20120209 02:29:33< AI0867> answer: not really
20120209 02:29:57< AI0867> and yes, we are roughly at the point of feb 2010
20120209 02:30:14< AI0867> though currently, the curve is steeper
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20120209 02:43:30< shadowm> Does anyone know how I can emulate a joystick on Linux for testing purposes?
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20120209 08:32:13< timotei> Ah god...
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20120209 10:00:48< Ivanovic> moin
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20120209 12:12:34< Ivanovic> Espreon: btw i won't add the files until i got the "yeah, i want to do it" message from the one looking for the ukrainian translation
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20120209 12:38:19-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: gna.org currently down; no svn, ML or bugtracker available | 0 bugs, 0 feature requests, 0 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20120209 12:56:16< Oleg|percona_> Hi guys
20120209 12:56:22< Oleg|percona_> How long gna will be down?
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20120209 13:12:45< Ivanovic> the website gna.org speaks from friday
20120209 13:12:52< Ivanovic> http://gna.org/
20120209 13:12:58< Ivanovic> "Gna! server did not survive a reboot while upgrading its main OS. It should be fixed and replaced by new hardware if needed by Friday 10 feb."
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20120209 13:50:21< Espreon> Ivanovic: Of course.
20120209 13:50:51< Ivanovic> and even then it is better to get this file per mail to be sure that utf8 is working
20120209 13:51:04< Ivanovic> with website pastes the encoding is often, uhm, mangled
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20120209 15:31:50< fabi__> zookeeper: Why is HttT full of loyal enemy units, wearing the silver ring?
20120209 15:32:54< zookeeper> it is? i haven't done or heard of such a thing.
20120209 15:34:01< zookeeper> on some values of "full of", that sounds like it's probably a filtering bug of some kind.
20120209 15:34:12< fabi__> zookeeper: Start the first scenario in which lisar and konrad are allies, some underground scenario.
20120209 15:35:31< fabi__> zookeeper: 15, hasty alliance
20120209 15:36:03< zookeeper> that hardly qualifies as "HttT full of loyal enemy units"
20120209 15:36:06< zookeeper> those units are loyal
20120209 15:36:13< zookeeper> there's nothing more to it than that
20120209 15:36:46< Ivanovic> fabi__: are only the units from lisar loyal or the actual AI enemy units?
20120209 15:38:04< fabi__> Ivanovic: All the preset ai enemy units.
20120209 15:38:49< fabi__> zookeeper: I have seen more loyal units on the ai side during some other scenarios as well.
20120209 15:40:18< zookeeper> well i don't remember every pre-placed unit in the campaign and which ones are supposed to be loyal.
20120209 15:40:48< zookeeper> probably someone just made LOYAL_UNIT add the overlay as well and without it you've never noticed them before
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20120209 15:41:59< Ivanovic> i think the overlay was added to loyal unit or something like this
20120209 15:45:41< fabi__> Well, my point is that every unit that is preplaced in the campaigns seems to be loyal so far. 
20120209 15:45:57< fabi__> All the rings are confusing me, I would not display them.
20120209 15:47:20< zookeeper> there's nothing i can say about that because i cannot check the svn logs right now.
20120209 15:52:21< zookeeper> if no one has made such a change anytime recently then clearly it's been that way always or for a long time. in which case the units probably should be turned non-loyal and corresponding re-balancing made.
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20120209 17:39:13< fabi__> Ivanovic: I have tested the changes to two brothers now. I will commit when gna is up again.
20120209 17:49:54< Crab_> fabi__: the cleanup changes?
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20120209 19:40:12< mordante> servus
20120209 19:40:50< Espreon> mordante: Ic grete þe.
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20120209 19:40:55< mordante> hi Espreon 
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20120209 19:41:28< mordante> shadowm, I think that it should be possible in GUI2 to do the same as the hotkey dialog
20120209 19:41:42< mordante> AI0867, I sometimes hate it when I'm right
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20120209 20:45:01< lipk> Crab_: why do you insist on having underlines in your nick?
20120209 20:45:20< Crab_> 'Crab' was already taken by someone else.
20120209 20:45:43< lipk> just like 'lipk'. I still can use it here...
20120209 20:48:51< shadowm> it'd be a problem if someone used ns ghost on you during a conversation
20120209 20:51:03< lipk> oh. so it's actually not a good idea to use a registered nick?
20120209 20:51:29< lipk> not as if it'd be catastrophy if I was kicked though ;)
20120209 20:51:34< shadowm> a nick registered by someone else, right
20120209 20:52:05-!- lipk is now known as the_new_lipk
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20120209 20:52:22< the_new_lipk> now I'm safe :)
20120209 20:53:29< Ivanovic> the_new_lipk: the main problem is that Crab_ can not have a cloak on an account that is not his own
20120209 20:54:17< the_new_lipk> what's a cloak? I'm an IRC newbie
20120209 20:55:27< shadowm> cloaks are tied to his ns account; technically, he can identify to any account while using any unrelated nickname
20120209 20:56:04< shadowm> the_new_lipk: freenode's cute way to refer to vhosts , generally of the form projectname/identification
20120209 20:56:19< shadowm> 16:56:08 -!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster]
20120209 20:57:01< shadowm> so that shows affiliation with an on-topic project and hides your real IP from other users
20120209 20:59:54< the_new_lipk> I see now. So it doesn't really make any difference in my case.
20120209 21:02:02< shadowm> registered users with no project affiliation can request an unaffiliated cloak if they wish to hide their IP
20120209 21:04:02< Ivanovic> the_new_lipk: the cloak can also be used to get higher rights in some chans (like wesnoth devs can easly get moderator access in #wesnoth-dev)
20120209 21:08:28< mordante> I'm off bye
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20120209 21:09:33< the_new_lipk> This whole IRC stuff is much more complicated than I thought :) Now I'm gonna register my cool new name, get an unaffiliated cloak and give myself some claps that now I've learned something new :)
20120209 21:13:38< Ivanovic> :)
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20120209 22:21:52< anonymissimus> shadowm: I think I've seen you putting something like "x,y=0-map_width,0-map_height" into SLFs; that was documented incorrectly in the wiki I've just seen
20120209 22:22:09< anonymissimus> SLFs store all locations by default when empty
20120209 22:22:59< anonymissimus> it was probably added at some spot and was forgotten to document it
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