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20120222 16:36:48< zookeeper> Gambit, i think you're just the perfect person to deal with axalaraflame
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20120222 16:41:53< Gambit> Yeah...
20120222 16:44:03< Lukc> AxalaraFlame? The guy who wants to make a 25 scenario campaign, or something like that?
20120222 16:46:25< shadowm> I'm sure I'm not the only one who made a 25 scenario campaign, nor the only one who intended to do that at any point.
20120222 16:48:05< Lukc> *new guy
20120222 16:48:26< Lukc> Didn’t meant making a 25 scenario campaign is a problem in itself.
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20120222 16:48:39< Lukc> Nor that it is a problem at all, except maybe for those writing it.
20120222 16:48:56< Lukc> (is it?)
20120222 16:49:29< shadowm> his topic says 23
20120222 16:50:27< shadowm> And yes, I'm sure that won't work given his evident lack of skill at delivering messages efficiently in English.
20120222 16:50:30< Lukc> Is a two scenario difference relevant ?
20120222 16:50:41< zookeeper> Gambit, aww, artisticdude beat you to it.
20120222 16:51:00< Gambit> Yep.
20120222 16:51:08< zookeeper> well, you can still say how stupid his idea is.
20120222 16:51:21< Gambit> Lukc: ohhi.
20120222 16:51:26< Gambit> I merged your pull request.
20120222 16:51:33< Lukc> Gambit, yeah, I know.
20120222 16:51:36< Lukc> I commented. /o\
20120222 16:51:40< Lukc> (couldn’t resist)
20120222 16:52:38< Lukc> Anyway, is there a point in saying/explaining/repeating him his idea is stupid?
20120222 16:52:47< artisticdude> I'm no math genius, but I can't imagine any possible way you could expect to balance factions with any formula(s)
20120222 16:52:50< shadowm> No.
20120222 16:52:50< Lukc> I mean, it’s not like he is gonna stop after reading you.
20120222 16:52:59< shadowm> He's completely oblivious to criticism from what I've seen.
20120222 16:53:13< Lukc> Yeah.
20120222 16:53:49< shadowm> And as I hinted above, it might be a language issue. Everything appears to indicate he's from China.
20120222 16:53:56< shadowm> *barrier issue
20120222 16:55:17< Lukc> I doubt that would explain some choices of words he made…
20120222 16:56:08< artisticdude> From what I read, it seems like he's trying to balance units vs units rather than factions vs factions anyway...
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20120222 17:08:19< Jozrael> smh @ http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=36090
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20120222 20:39:36< mcwise> hey guys
20120222 20:39:48< mcwise> I have problems joining the official MP server
20120222 20:40:02< mcwise> is it down?
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20120222 20:40:39< shadowm> no
20120222 20:40:40< mcwise> alright, restarting helped
20120222 20:40:49< shadowm> it *was* down
20120222 20:40:51< mcwise> wonder what was that about though..
20120222 20:40:52< mcwise> ah :D
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20120222 20:51:51< Lukc> It has been possessed by some kind of spirit. They *had* to reboot.
20120222 20:52:39< shadowm> the machine didn't reboot, only the server process did
20120222 20:55:11< Lukc> This does not contradict my statement.
20120222 20:55:45< Lukc> Why wouldn’t a spirit possess a process?
20120222 20:56:36< shadowm> presumably because it's cheaper to kill processes than machines :p
20120222 20:57:43< Lukc> But it’s  (sometimes) cheaper to reboot machines than processes.
20120222 20:58:18< Lukc> And so, you are telling me the price of the machine is important for a spirit? I wonder whose it is, then.
20120222 20:58:38< shadowm> in that case the spirit would posses the machine hardware rather than the software,
20120222 20:59:12< Lukc> Not necessarily. What if it possesses the kernel, or the init, or something like that?
20120222 20:59:26< shadowm> the point is that it's easy and inexpensive to get rid of it if it posseses a volatile, virtual component that no-one pays for and can be permanently destroyed along with the spirit :p
20120222 20:59:39< Lukc>  /o\
20120222 20:59:43< Lukc> Ok, you win.
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20120222 21:25:33< arguser> hello
20120222 21:25:41< arguser> silly question over here
20120222 21:25:51< arguser> just upgraded to 1.10 and can't see my 1.8 saves
20120222 21:25:59< arguser> can i recover them?
20120222 21:26:01< shadowm> operating system?
20120222 21:26:14< arguser> shadowm: arch
20120222 21:26:19< shadowm> and yes, you can do that, but odds are they won't work properly/at all depending on the campaign
20120222 21:26:48< shadowm> presumably, you have a .wesnoth1.8/saves directory in your home dir, and a .local/share/wesnoth/1.10/saves directory too
20120222 21:27:41< shadowm> that is, the location of the saves dir (which is part of the preferences dir) has changed since 1.8: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/EditingWesnoth#Linux_2
20120222 21:29:05< Lukc> *1.1
20120222 21:29:38< shadowm> Lukc: not if the Arch package has the patch I published
20120222 21:29:57< Lukc> Ah. Forget what I said, then.
20120222 21:30:08< shadowm> all known packagers were emailed about it, at least
20120222 21:30:16< arguser> so i move the saves to new dir and problem solved?
20120222 21:30:50< Lukc> shadowm, where can I find it?
20120222 21:31:09< Lukc> arguser, if the saves are compatible, the problem may possibly be solved.
20120222 21:31:33< arguser> Lukc: Main campaing, hope so.
20120222 21:32:51< shadowm> arguser: you should try start-of-scenario saves instead of mid-scenario turn saves in any case
20120222 21:33:14< arguser> shadowm: ok
20120222 21:33:23< arguser> thanks everybody
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20120222 21:33:47< shadowm> Lukc: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/src/filesystem.cpp?view=patch&r1=52533&r2=52752&pathrev=52752
20120222 21:33:52< Lukc> Thx.
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20120222 22:30:28< mcwise> Is there a section in the forums regarding MP Campaigns?
20120222 22:31:37< zookeeper> no
20120222 22:32:15< zookeeper> what do you need?
20120222 22:32:28< mcwise> I want to play MP Campaigns with my friend
20120222 22:32:36< mcwise> but I don't want to just download every and see which I like
20120222 22:33:26< zookeeper> i think most MP campaign discussion goes on in the multiplayer development forum
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20120222 22:33:45< mcwise> alright
20120222 22:33:47< mcwise> thanks for the hint
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20120222 22:36:52< zookeeper> not that i've played any of them extensively, but i'd probably go with "The Haunted Woods" or "Save The Village" myself... at least until altaz mariners gets updated for 1.10
20120222 22:37:56< zookeeper> or wesband if you want some dungeon crawling
20120222 22:45:15< mcwise> ok thanks, we are playing "Elf War" at the moment :)
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