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20120309 00:26:33< Espreon> fendrin_: Will [item]s and stuff actually be able to be stored in [map]?
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20120309 00:54:18< fendrin_> Espreon: No, it will be stored beside [map].
20120309 00:57:45< Espreon> Example please.
20120309 00:58:53< fendrin_> [label]...[/label]...[map]...[/map]
20120309 00:58:55< vultraz> I think he means [map][/map][item][/item]
20120309 00:59:07< fendrin_> yepp
20120309 00:59:33< vultraz> as opposed to [map][item][/item][/map]
20120309 00:59:40< vultraz> Espreon: ^
20120309 01:00:37< Espreon> OK, so when I use [replace_map], I'll still have to take care of [item]s and stuff myself, yes?
20120309 01:13:36< fendrin_> Espreon: I am not sure yet. That needs to be discussed.
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20120309 01:20:36< Espreon> It'd be nice if it took care of those on its own or at least had the ability to do so.
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20120309 01:25:25< anonymissimus> would be nice yes; and it would fit to FR/bug http://gna.org/bugs/index.php?19504
20120309 01:26:55< anonymissimus> though it should be limited to labels and items probably
20120309 01:27:59< Espreon> Sound sources too, maybe.
20120309 01:28:45< Espreon> ... time areas...
20120309 01:28:52< anonymissimus> yeah
20120309 01:29:01< anonymissimus> but not sides
20120309 01:29:05< Espreon> Yeah.
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20120309 01:29:43< anonymissimus> time areas would also be nice to specify in the editor
20120309 01:29:51< Espreon> Yup.
20120309 01:30:13< anonymissimus> for the same reasons as labels and items
20120309 01:32:11< Espreon> Hmmmmm, it'd be nice if the game were shipped with things like [store_shroud] and [store_map].
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20120309 03:23:00< AI0867> Espreon: a possible problem with items is that [replace_map] wouldn't know which items to *remove*
20120309 03:23:42< Espreon> Well, if the items were tied with the map, there wouldn't be a problem.
20120309 03:23:54< CIA-134> ai0867 * r53468 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/campaignserver_client.py: Add a quiet option to CampaignClient
20120309 03:23:56< CIA-134> ai0867 * r53469 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/wescamp.py: Add a quiet option to wescamp.py. Make everything but verbose call CampaignClient quietly
20120309 03:23:57< CIA-134> ai0867 * r53467 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/libgithub.py: Replace os.tmpnam with tempfile.NamedTemporaryFile
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20120309 08:07:01< ancestral> shadowm: Is glamdrol mostly prosilveresque?
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20120309 08:10:52< ancestral> Could we get something like http://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/style/prosilver_mobile ?
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20120309 17:55:29< the_new_lipk> zookeeper: around?
20120309 17:55:46< zookeeper> yes
20120309 17:56:03< the_new_lipk> I have a wml-related idea to discuss
20120309 17:56:54< zookeeper> go ahead
20120309 17:57:02< the_new_lipk> it's in connection with eras. IIUC, an era is meants to be a "setting" for battles, specifying the fighting sides, etc.
20120309 17:57:26< the_new_lipk> But currently many eras just modify the gameplay or add small features.
20120309 17:57:58< the_new_lipk> So we could have an era-like top level tag (game_mod or something)
20120309 17:58:17< the_new_lipk> Which can't specify races and such, just modify gameplay.
20120309 17:59:03< the_new_lipk> And they'd be stackable, one era and multiple game_mods in one match
20120309 17:59:09< the_new_lipk> what about that?
20120309 18:00:16< zookeeper> well, yeah. i've figured you should be able to define "rulesets" which could be anything from UI features to game mechanic changes (such as a lessluck mod) to different objectives, and you'd choose them in the game creation screen just like you choose an era, except that you could choose several.
20120309 18:00:41< zookeeper> basically the "rulesets" would just be a bunch of events
20120309 18:01:03< the_new_lipk> yes
20120309 18:01:44< zookeeper> so, what about it? it's a good idea for sure, but no one's done it :P i don't think there's an FR filed for that, even.
20120309 18:03:16< the_new_lipk> I don't think it'd be *too* hard to implement
20120309 18:04:42< the_new_lipk> the engine'd read the game_mod tags before loading multiplayer, and paste the events of activated game_mods to the scenario config when starting the match
20120309 18:04:49< zookeeper> probably not, if one of the coders who know what they're doing would put their mind to it
20120309 18:05:02< the_new_lipk> and some GUI tweaks, of course
20120309 18:05:12< zookeeper> the UI part would probably be the hardest.
20120309 18:13:12< CIA-134> ai0867 * r53470 /trunk/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Apply patch #3083 by Brilliand
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20120309 18:47:21< CIA-134> fendrin * r53471 /trunk/data/ (core/images/themes/rightside-editor-bg.png themes/editor.cfg): Slightly wider sidebar background image for the editor.
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20120309 18:54:21< CIA-134> fendrin * r53472 /trunk/src/editor/ (brush_bar.cpp brush_bar.hpp): Seperate files for the brush bar.
20120309 18:56:33< CIA-134> fendrin * r53473 /trunk/src/editor/palette/ (8 files): Subfolder with new palette class hierarchy.
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20120309 19:02:30< CIA-134> fendrin * r53474 /trunk/src/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Replaced the old terrain palette with a system where palettes are bound to the editor tools.
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20120309 19:20:40< CIA-134> mordante * r53475 /trunk/src/editor/palette/common_palette.hpp: Add a missing virtual destructor.
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20120309 19:56:14< mordante> servus
20120309 19:57:06< mordante> AI0867, around?
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20120309 20:02:41< the_new_lipk> mordante: where is the mp game creation screen ui defined???
20120309 20:04:00< the_new_lipk> *layout
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20120309 20:10:58< mordante> the_new_lipk, the old or the new one?
20120309 20:11:13< the_new_lipk> the old
20120309 20:14:14< mordante> I assume it's in multiplayer_create.cpp
20120309 20:15:21< the_new_lipk> thankies
20120309 20:15:35< mordante> no problem
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20120309 20:45:37< Ivanovic> hi
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20120309 20:53:31< mordante> hi Ivanovic 
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20120309 21:23:02< CIA-134> elias * r53476 /trunk/data/tools/unit_tree/ (helpers.py html_output.py): [wmlunits] Fix errors in The_Earths_Gut and Archaic_Era due to mistakenly ignoring hide_help=true units being used in [base_unit].
20120309 21:25:27< mordante> I'm off bye
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20120309 22:47:17< CIA-134> anonymissimus * r53477 /trunk/projectfiles/CodeBlocks/wesnoth.cbp: Cb projectfile update
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20120309 23:35:08< Espreon> Hmmmm, I think something broke [side]faction_from_recruit=yes
20120309 23:35:22< Espreon> ... just look at ANL.
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20120309 23:38:56< Espreon> ... probably those changes to random faction selection.
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