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20120314 00:30:15< JaMiT> Hi there. Anyone familiar with the terrain_filter class?
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20120314 01:15:40< anonymissimus> JaMiT: ask sapient
20120314 01:15:53< anonymissimus> or what do you want to know ?
20120314 01:16:31< anonymissimus> afaik he wrote large parts of it, and the SLF wml questions is what he preferably answers
20120314 01:17:20< JaMiT> One of the constructors uses a #defined constant, and I was wondering if that was intended.
20120314 01:18:15< JaMiT> It looks like the constant could be replaced by game_config::max_loop, but maybe they are supposed to be different constants?
20120314 01:20:11< JaMiT> Probably a question for Sapient then, since he wrote it.
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20120314 01:25:03< anonymissimus> where ?
20120314 01:25:53< JaMiT> terrain_filter.hpp, line 40.
20120314 01:26:29< JaMiT> The constant is defined in both map.hpp and map_location.hpp, and this is the only place it is used.
20120314 01:26:44< JaMiT> Oh, the constant: MAX_MAP_AREA
20120314 01:29:22< anonymissimus> it looks as if it's redundant
20120314 01:30:00< anonymissimus> in lua.cpp:3129 game_config::max_loop is used for the same logic
20120314 01:30:28< anonymissimus> and since that's wesnoth.get_locations it means that most of the SLFs in the current wml api use it as well
20120314 01:31:27< JaMiT> Yes, that is what I noticed. Whenever restrict_size is called to override the default, MAX_MAP_AREA is replaced by game_config::max_loop.
20120314 01:32:07< JaMiT> And both MAX_MAP_AREA and game_config::max_loop are currently set to the same value (65536).
20120314 01:32:53< anonymissimus> yup; well, you've found it so what about constructing a patch that removes the few references to it
20120314 01:33:16< anonymissimus> then you should have the 3+ patches you need for write access (or so) :P
20120314 01:33:23< JaMiT> OK.
20120314 01:35:05< anonymissimus> of course, grep through the whole src/* to be sure to catch all references
20120314 01:36:01< JaMiT> That's how I checked the usage in the first place. ;)
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20120314 03:14:44< Alarantalara> fendrin: The editor doesn't do anything special to get the UMC terrains. The terrain creator has to make sure they're loaded using #ifdef EDITOR
20120314 03:16:12< Alarantalara> (or by not guarding it with any preprocessor, but that can cause problems with id overlaps when playing)
20120314 03:17:45< Alarantalara> The same solution should work for units
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20120314 08:03:59< Ivanovic> zookeeper: can you look at this one to determin if it is a bug or a feature? http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=36362
20120314 08:04:13< zookeeper> feature
20120314 08:13:09< Ivanovic> will you reply with the reasoning?
20120314 08:13:18< Ivanovic> that is: i am heading off to work now, cu
20120314 08:16:19< zookeeper> maybe...
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20120314 10:08:58< Espreon> fendrin: When the editor is launched, the icon for the "all" group that should be next to the Group button is missing.
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20120314 12:38:35< AI0867> it looks like [objectives][objective][show_if] has been broken for some time
20120314 12:38:42< AI0867> now bisectin
20120314 12:38:42< AI0867> g
20120314 12:40:42< Espreon> AI0867: Perhaps it's because of E_H's latest changes to objectives.lua.
20120314 12:40:55< AI0867> possibly
20120314 12:41:02< AI0867> I have 11 more revisions to test
20120314 12:41:10< Espreon> I see.
20120314 12:41:11< AI0867> it should go fairly quickly
20120314 12:41:45< AI0867> 1.9.6 is goo
20120314 12:41:46< AI0867> d
20120314 12:41:49< AI0867> 1.10 is bad
20120314 12:42:09< Espreon> Hmmmm...
20120314 12:42:31< Espreon> That long?
20120314 12:42:34< Espreon> Hmmm...
20120314 12:42:43< Espreon> I haven't noticed anything and I actually use that feature.
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20120314 12:45:56< Espreon> Crab____: Nice line.
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20120314 12:47:47< Crab_> Espreon: :)
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20120314 12:48:10< Espreon> Ha ha.
20120314 12:48:11< AI0867__________> ;)
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20120314 12:49:49-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 168 bugs, 329 feature requests, 12 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20120314 13:00:03< AI0867> now testing 107 revisions past 1.9.14 ...
20120314 13:00:18< AI0867> for i in `git branch -r|grep tags|sed 's#tags/##'`;do git tag $i tags/$i~1;done
20120314 13:00:27< AI0867> that generates tags so git describe --tags works
20120314 13:03:36< AI0867> 124 revisions past 1.9.13 ...
20120314 13:15:29< AI0867> 1.9.14-96-g10709e0 broke it...
20120314 13:15:39< AI0867> that's r52658
20120314 13:15:46< AI0867> which places a new leader on the board...
20120314 13:16:58< AI0867> gah
20120314 13:17:04< AI0867> it's not broken, there are two leaders....
20120314 13:17:15< Espreon> Huzzah.
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20120314 13:20:38< CIA-134> espreon * r53535 /trunk/data/core/about.cfg: Revised my credits entries.
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20120314 13:21:22< vultraz> Espreon: nice revision number
20120314 13:22:11< Espreon> Heh.
20120314 13:23:03< CIA-134> espreon * r53536 /branches/1.10/data/core/about.cfg: Ported r53535 to 1.10.
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20120314 18:53:46< Ivanovic> hi
20120314 19:00:42< the_new_lipk> it's not possible to use a gui1 widget in a gui2 grid, is it?
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20120314 19:11:55< elias> Espreon: do you want those translated unit names output to stdout, in mediawiki markup? or html? or something else?
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20120314 19:15:24< Espreon> It'd be nice if it could handle multiple formats, but I'd personally use the MediaWiki format.
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20120314 22:35:12< CIA-69> boucman * r53537 /trunk/ (12 files in 3 dirs): apply patch 3176 by jamit : fog does not recover discovered hex until end of turn
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20120314 22:56:04< Espreon> boucman: It'd be nice if a certain someone would document the new tags.
20120314 22:56:11< Espreon> ... in the wiki.
20120314 22:56:20< boucman> Espreon: jamit will
20120314 22:56:29< boucman> I don't close patches until wiki is updated :)
20120314 22:56:56< Espreon> Ugh, don't tell me [reset_fog] need to be given side info.
20120314 22:57:11< Espreon> I shouldn't have to give it side info.
20120314 22:57:21< Espreon> *needs to be
20120314 22:57:27< boucman> I think it can be given side info, I don't think it needs
20120314 22:57:41< Espreon> Well, lemme see if ti works when I give it side info.
20120314 22:57:45< Espreon> *it works
20120314 22:57:45< boucman> iirc an empty side_filter will match all sides... no ?
20120314 22:58:09< Espreon> Ah yes, the empty [filter_side] nonsense.
20120314 22:58:56< Espreon> ... nope, nothing.
20120314 22:59:22< boucman> what do you mean ? it needs a filter ?
20120314 22:59:36< Espreon> Let's see if it works if I give a non-blank side filter.
20120314 23:00:09< Espreon> ... Hmmm.
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20120314 23:00:47< boucman> it looks for side in a [filter_side] child
20120314 23:00:58< boucman> if none is present I need to check what happens
20120314 23:02:01< Espreon> Giving it the following does not work:
20120314 23:02:04< Espreon> [filter_side]
20120314 23:02:06< Espreon> side=1
20120314 23:02:12< shadowm> why does it require a filter_side child?
20120314 23:02:14< Espreon> [/filter_side]
20120314 23:02:19< Espreon> Who knows?
20120314 23:02:29< Espreon> Probably because anonymissimus said so.
20120314 23:02:41< shadowm> I was asking boucman
20120314 23:03:03< Espreon> Of course.
20120314 23:03:21< boucman> shadowm: i thought it didn't "require" as much as "could have" to only reset for some sides and not all
20120314 23:03:24< anonymissimus> because it has a SLF at toplevel already
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20120314 23:03:53< Espreon> I hope I don't need to give it an SLF filter either.
20120314 23:03:56< shadowm> anonymissimus: ah, right, forgot that
20120314 23:03:58< Espreon> *SLF either
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20120314 23:04:32< shadowm> Espreon: that would make sense if the SLF can have a SSF
20120314 23:04:48< shadowm> I haven't really read up on the SSF thing yet
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20120314 23:06:44< shadowm> why [lift_fog] instead of [remove_fog], again?
20120314 23:06:59< Espreon> Hmmmm, I wonder what does actually work... I can't get it to work.
20120314 23:07:08< Espreon> Oh, it's that...
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20120314 23:07:18< Espreon> Good to know.
20120314 23:07:22< boucman> because the semantic is different from remove_shroud IIRC
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20120314 23:08:48< Espreon> Ah, there're two things.
20120314 23:08:56< Espreon> Hmmm, I cannot get [reset_fog] to work.
20120314 23:08:58< shadowm> should I give jamit the code & wml contributor title in the forums?
20120314 23:09:01< anonymissimus> yes, we name it rest_fog instead of place_fog for the same reason, so i suggested to go with different wording there as well
20120314 23:09:06< Espreon> ... I can get [lift_fog] to work, though.
20120314 23:09:18< shadowm> once you are done with your testing, on which I shall not partake for the time being
20120314 23:09:38< boucman> Espreon: reset fog can only work after lift fog
20120314 23:09:43< Espreon> ...
20120314 23:09:45< Espreon> Sigh.
20120314 23:09:56< boucman> it removes the "fog placer" it doesn't cause a recalculation of fog
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20120314 23:12:16< shadowm> boucman: should I give jamit the code & wml contributor title in the forums?
20120314 23:12:25< boucman> good idea, yes
20120314 23:12:32< shadowm> which incidentally is also something you can do
20120314 23:12:43< boucman> probably :P
20120314 23:12:47< boucman> you do it or I do it ?
20120314 23:12:53< shadowm> I'll do it
20120314 23:12:58< boucman> thx
20120314 23:13:59< Espreon> boucman: It seems [reset_fog] doesn't work properly... I used [lift_fog] to remove everything but [reset_fog] doesn't place fog everywhere it should be.
20120314 23:14:23< Espreon> But the fact that I have to use [lift_fog] first sucks.
20120314 23:15:05< boucman> Espreon: i'm not sure what you mean with having to use lift_fog being bad...
20120314 23:15:27< boucman> basically the game keeps a list of "hex without fog" for each side
20120314 23:15:35< boucman> lift_fog add hex to these lists
20120314 23:15:36< Espreon> I see.
20120314 23:15:40< boucman> reset_fog removes them
20120314 23:15:49< boucman> but none actually triggers a fog redraw
20120314 23:16:00< Espreon> Then what does?
20120314 23:16:04< boucman> (which would be a good idea, we could add jamit for a followup patch)
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20120314 23:16:10< boucman> i'll grep if there is something
20120314 23:17:41< boucman> apparently not directly, but it should be quite trivial to add
20120314 23:20:00< boucman> Espreon: I guess it's needed for you use case, i'll ask jamit in the patch, how do you want it called ?
20120314 23:21:08< Espreon> If it's what I truly want, [regenerate_fog], if not. I have no idea.
20120314 23:21:16< Espreon> *if not, I
20120314 23:21:56< boucman> hmm
20120314 23:22:00< boucman> let me check some more
20120314 23:22:41< Espreon> All I know is that [lift_fog][/lift_fog][reset_fog][/reset_fog]'s not doing what I need it to do.
20120314 23:23:08< boucman> what does it do exactly ?
20120314 23:24:39< Espreon> It gets rid of all the fog and just brings back what was there before without taking the new unit placement into account.
20120314 23:25:10< boucman> [lift_fog] with no SLF should indeed remove all fog... 
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20120314 23:27:00< boucman> however [reset_fog] should turn fog back to it's "normal" state (i.e taking units into account) if it doesn't take unit movement into account there is something wrong...
20120314 23:28:00< Espreon> It certainly isn't taking it into account.
20120314 23:28:43< boucman> ok... could you try adding the following line
20120314 23:28:53< boucman> recalculate_for(side_num);
20120314 23:29:16< boucman> after line 779 (which should read t.remove_fog_override(locs);
20120314 23:29:16< boucman> )
20120314 23:29:21< Espreon> In which file?
20120314 23:29:39< boucman> src/game_events.cpp sorry :P
20120314 23:31:54< Espreon> It exploded.
20120314 23:32:00< boucman> oh
20120314 23:32:02< boucman> hmm
20120314 23:32:13< boucman> at compile or at exec ?
20120314 23:32:32< boucman> at compile, I hadn't checked on my side, sry
20120314 23:32:34< boucman> gimme a sec
20120314 23:33:25< boucman> the line should be "recalculate_fog(side_num);" and not recalculate_for
20120314 23:33:27< boucman> sorry
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20120314 23:36:44< Espreon> boucman: Hmmmm, it helps, but now it suffers similar problems the shroud system suffers from. The first floor change went well, but not the second one...
20120314 23:37:11< boucman> could you discribe what happens on the second case ?
20120314 23:37:46< Espreon> Well, what was uncovered before is also uncovered now, even though it shouldn't be.
20120314 23:39:03< boucman> hmm
20120314 23:39:50< boucman> could you describe what you are doing, what you expect and what you actually get at https://gna.org/patch/?3176 ?
20120314 23:40:13< vultraz> is it intentional that stuff like [remove_shroud] only take one kind of SLF key? like I can't use both terrain= and x,y=, just one or the other
20120314 23:40:14< boucman> I need to go to bed soon, i'll try to fix it on sunday if jamit doesn't react first, but we should ask him in the mean time
20120314 23:40:34< boucman> vultraz: cant' you put an [and] in a slf ?
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20120314 23:40:38< Espreon> boucman: Shall I just commit what I have and have you test it so you can see what's going on?
20120314 23:40:55< boucman> hmm
20120314 23:41:09< Espreon> I expect to be able to regenerate the fog in a way that takes unit placement into account.
20120314 23:41:13< vultraz> boucman: yeah...didn't try that. lemme see if it works
20120314 23:41:16< Espreon> ... like the old system.
20120314 23:41:35< boucman> no, you can mention it in your comment, but even though I understand what's going on, i'd rather have jamit confirm it first, I just added a line where I thought it would work with little testing
20120314 23:42:02< boucman> Espreon: I mean at a lower level, what your wml does what you actually see
20120314 23:42:34< Espreon> boucman: Do you want me to pastebin the floor change event?
20120314 23:42:49< boucman> could help, yes
20120314 23:43:40< Espreon> boucman: http://pastebin.com/abAQ9dhY
20120314 23:44:03< vultraz> boucman: nope, doesn't work
20120314 23:44:11< Espreon> Note to self: get rid of that foolish attempt to work around the shroud system's pathetic limitations.
20120314 23:44:30< vultraz> you can put [and] in a SLF, but it doesn't seem to work in this instance
20120314 23:44:45< vultraz> ([time_area]/[remove_shroud])
20120314 23:47:26< Espreon> boucman: Does this help?
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20120314 23:48:40< boucman> what is this supposed to do ?
20120314 23:48:42< boucman>         [lift_fog]         [/lift_fog]                  [reset_fog]         [/reset_fog]  
20120314 23:49:41< Espreon> ... It is supposed to regenerate the fog as I need it to be.
20120314 23:49:59< the_new_lipk> fendrin, shadowm: you're quite familiar with gui2, aren't you?
20120314 23:50:33< boucman> I don't understand... lift_fog with no slf filter will mark all hex as "forced without fog" and "reset_fog" will then remove these markers
20120314 23:50:48< shadowm> the_new_lipk: sort of
20120314 23:51:05< boucman> so it should not do anything afaict, except remove any markers leftover...
20120314 23:51:21< Espreon> Then how do I get it to do what I want it to do?
20120314 23:51:44< Espreon> And I shouldn't have to have absurd, catch-all SLFs.
20120314 23:51:55< boucman> I am still not clear with the whole "what I want to do" concept here...
20120314 23:52:14< the_new_lipk> shadowm: I'm trying to create a dialog which I populate with widgets in runtime
20120314 23:52:28< the_new_lipk> and I'm getting this error when showing the dialog:
20120314 23:52:31< the_new_lipk> int gui2::tcontrol::get_text_maximum_width() const: Assertion `config_' failed
20120314 23:52:46< the_new_lipk> what does that mean?
20120314 23:52:50< shadowm> GUI2 wasn't really intended for that kind of usage
20120314 23:52:58< Espreon> boucman: ... I want the fog to be regenerated completely.
20120314 23:53:12< shadowm> and no, I don't know what the error means in context, but clearly you hit a code path under unexpected conditions
20120314 23:53:18< Espreon> boucman: ... and I need it to be.
20120314 23:53:27< boucman> you mean "before the end of the current turn" 
20120314 23:53:29< boucman> ?
20120314 23:53:43< Espreon> Yes.
20120314 23:54:10< boucman> mkay
20120314 23:54:52< Espreon> So what do I do?
20120314 23:55:03< the_new_lipk> shadowm: so it's kinda hopeless to code dynamic dialogs with gui2?
20120314 23:55:38< shadowm> the_new_lipk: in my experience, yes
20120314 23:55:56< the_new_lipk> :(
20120314 23:56:09< shadowm> you might have better luck asking mordante himself since he wrote the whole thing and knows better about the internals than any of us
20120314 23:56:39< boucman> Espreon: ok, we indeed need a new WML action here "recalculate fog immediately" or an extra parameter to lift_fog/reset_fog to force recalc immdediately... 
20120314 23:56:43< shadowm> but as far as I can see, the only supported codepath for initializing widgets is the one triggered during game initialization by reading the dialog layouts from WML
20120314 23:56:55< Espreon> boucman: Indeed we do. :)
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20120314 23:57:06< shadowm> s/initializing/laying out/
20120314 23:57:10< boucman> but again, I need to go to bed now, so i'll drop a line on the patch for jamit, and if he doesn't react until saturday i'll look into it
20120314 23:58:07< Espreon> Sounds good.
20120314 23:58:59< the_new_lipk> shadowm: okay, thanks (and bye)
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20120314 23:59:20< boucman> ok, I need to go to bed, see you all
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