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20120316 00:48:16< neph> matthiaskrgr, are you by any chance the same person as mattsc on the forums?
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20120316 06:47:00< matthiaskrgr> 03:00 < neph> matthiaskrgr, are you by any chance the same person as mattsc on the forums? [01:48:16]
20120316 06:47:03< matthiaskrgr> nope
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20120316 18:02:53< CIA-69> alarantalara * r53539 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/ (misc/windmill-tile.png village/orc-tile.png): more updated grass backgrounds
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20120316 19:02:33< fabi> hello
20120316 19:03:19< vultraz> hey
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20120316 19:08:43 * fendrin has a little class design problem.
20120316 19:09:54< fendrin> boucman: Maybe you can help me?
20120316 19:10:04< boucman> sure
20120316 19:11:21< fendrin> Please have a look at src/editor/palette
20120316 19:12:34< fendrin> The current implementation has that little problem that each palette is a gui widget on it's own sharing the same space.
20120316 19:12:57< boucman> space as in "visual space" ?
20120316 19:13:03< fendrin> exactly.
20120316 19:13:09< boucman> k
20120316 19:14:26< fendrin> That leads to drawing problems
20120316 19:14:41< fendrin> And isn't the coolest design anyway.
20120316 19:15:22< boucman> well, it seems a proper design to me
20120316 19:15:42< boucman> each widge shouldn't know where its drawn, the parent widget would be in charge of deciding that
20120316 19:16:07< boucman> and each would have a method to be called when activated/deactivated
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20120316 19:16:54< CIA-69> elias * r53540 /trunk/data/tools/ (unit_tree/wiki_output.py wmlunits): Added wiki output option to wmlunits.
20120316 19:17:28< vultraz> fendrin: just thinking, but I think it would make sense if when selecting things like the starting position tool (or others that result in a blank palette), the palette would stay the one you had right before selecting that tool.
20120316 19:17:49< shadowm> I disagree
20120316 19:17:51< boucman> vultraz: I disagree, the palette is contextual
20120316 19:18:40< vultraz> well...I really don't know how this works
20120316 19:18:50< vultraz> just my two cents ;)
20120316 19:20:01< vultraz> though it is a bit weird to have to go back to the tool you were on just because you wanted to set a starting position 
20120316 19:20:04< fendrin> vultraz: Contextual is no matter of how it works behind the scenes but how it is used.
20120316 19:21:33< fendrin> vultraz: What you want is starting position tool to be a one shot item? It shall return to the previous one after the position is set?
20120316 19:22:19< fendrin> boucman: Well, yes, the current design can be repaired. At least I hope so. The gui1 thing behind it is strange when it comes to draw correctly with overlapping stuff.
20120316 19:22:49< boucman> fendrin: I don't know the gui code that well, so I can't help you with the specifics, unfortunately
20120316 19:23:32< fendrin> boucman: The plan I developed with crab was to have some sort of "palette_manager" who is the widget.
20120316 19:23:47< vultraz> fendrin: something like that. though I was more thinking of teh current behavior of that tool. OR you could have something in the palette, like maybe 9 buttons, one for each side, that the player could use like a terrain to 'place' a starting pos?
20120316 19:23:51< boucman> yes,have th parent wdget deal with the spcifics, makes sense
20120316 19:24:59< fendrin> vultraz: I think the current dialogue is superior to what the palette would be able to do for the place starting position tool.
20120316 19:25:46< vultraz> hum
20120316 19:26:03< vultraz> well, I'm just saying the empty palette is a bit weird
20120316 19:26:11< fendrin> boucman: But that leads to some more problems. Nothing very complicated, I just would like to get it right with the first shot.
20120316 19:26:47< fendrin> vultraz: I think it does also make sense to display the brush bar only with tools that are brush driven.
20120316 19:26:54< boucman> ok, without knowing the current implementation here is how I would do it
20120316 19:27:14< vultraz> fendrin: yeah, that's true too
20120316 19:27:26< boucman> I would do a parent with two drawing areas, the top one being a grid for tool buttons, and a lower area for palette
20120316 19:27:45< boucman> each tool would either provide an icon for its button or the button itself
20120316 19:28:27< boucman> the parent would be in charge of placing the buttons and would need to somehow know when a button is pressed (either by manging the button himself or a callback from the tool class
20120316 19:29:07< boucman> when a button is pressed, the manager would tell the previous tool to cleanup, then hide the widget (or deparent, not sure how gui1 works)
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20120316 19:29:33< boucman> then reparent the new widget to the palette area and tell it to get ready and draw itself
20120316 19:29:35< boucman> something like that
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20120316 19:30:26< vultraz> fendrin: I'm assuming that the pipette tool, when implemented, would have a blank palette too?
20120316 19:30:46< fendrin> vultraz: No, the pipette tool would have the terrain palettes.
20120316 19:30:57< vultraz> ah
20120316 19:31:02< vultraz> I hoped so
20120316 19:31:42< fendrin> boucman: Sounds doable. The current implementation might allow that without that much changes. Let me characterize my problems, maybe your suggestion is somehow the answer to it.
20120316 19:32:13< fendrin> vultraz: I still think about how a palette for soundsources could look like.
20120316 19:32:56< vultraz> maybe a list of sounds?
20120316 19:33:16< boucman> fendrin: i'll leave in about 1/2h though but let's start
20120316 19:33:16< vultraz> then, when you place one, a dialog could come up asking for fade_range, etc
20120316 19:33:37< fendrin> boucman: There is a pointer mouse_action_ in editor_controller. It points to the active tool.
20120316 19:33:41< CIA-69> shadowmaster * r53541 /trunk/src/editor/ (16 files in 2 dirs): editor: Fix several source file header inconsistencies
20120316 19:33:46< vultraz> though maybe a dropdown menu in the dialog for the sounds would work better
20120316 19:34:21< fendrin> In fact does the mouse_action class implement the "editor tool".
20120316 19:34:41< Espreon> .win 54
20120316 19:34:43< Espreon> ...
20120316 19:34:49< Espreon> Damn it.
20120316 19:35:07< fendrin> All mouse_actions which are bound to a button can be called editor tools.
20120316 19:37:09< fendrin> The buttons itself are part of the gui0 editor theme, thus can be handled in a subclass of controller. Thus the editor_controller also holds a map from hotkeys to those mouse_actions.
20120316 19:38:27< fendrin> Summary: theme.cfg defines buttons, those are bound to hotkeys and thus handled from controller. The editor controller holds a map that matches those hotkey events to the mouse_action which is what the user knows as "editor tool".
20120316 19:38:37< fendrin> Questions so far?
20120316 19:39:56< boucman> so a button simply calls a hotkey
20120316 19:40:02< fendrin> yes
20120316 19:40:10< boucman> which in turn simply call a function
20120316 19:40:13< boucman> mkay
20120316 19:40:49< boucman> so that function could call a method the tool_manager.change(tool new_tool)
20120316 19:40:56< CIA-69> shadowmaster * r53542 /trunk/src/scripting/ (debug_lua.cpp debug_lua.hpp): lua: More header inconsistencies
20120316 19:40:56< boucman> which would then do the cleaning
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20120316 19:41:03< boucman> and exposing the new one
20120316 19:41:06< fendrin> Yes.
20120316 19:41:58< fendrin> Currently, the mouse_action_ pointer gets reset to the new tool.
20120316 19:42:15< CIA-69> shadowmaster * r53543 /trunk/src/ (10 files in 3 dirs): Fix SVN properties
20120316 19:42:48< boucman> fendrin: I guess the manager has the list of tools and a pointer to the previously selected tool somewhere...
20120316 19:43:09< vultraz> anyway, I gtg
20120316 19:44:28< fendrin> boucman: So you would move the list of mouse_actions into the palette_manager?
20120316 19:45:36< boucman> fendrin: the list itself, not sure, it depends if you "like" the place it curently is... but the palette_manager would be a correct location, since it's the parent of the palette tools
20120316 19:45:59< boucman> however the palette_manager need a way to know the previous tool, either by storing it himself or having it in some other way
20120316 19:46:56< fendrin> It is definitely the parent of all palettes. But the parent of the mouse_action is more the controller. The mouse_action is bound to the controller very much.
20120316 19:47:35< fendrin> My problem isn't the previous tool, it is more a problem of how to connect the mouse_actions with the palettes.
20120316 19:49:08< fendrin> Currently each mouse_actions comes with a pointer to the palette it needs to interact with. On the other hand owns each palette a pointer of the pointer mouse_action_ in the controller. 
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20120316 19:49:32< fendrin> Thus it can always determine if the current mouse_action does want "this" to be drawn.
20120316 19:50:14< boucman> ok, sounds good
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20120316 19:50:21< boucman> (and i'm about to go)
20120316 19:50:52< fendrin> It is good currently but not anymore with the palette manager being the mother gui widget.
20120316 19:51:23< fendrin> boucman: Bye, have a nice evening.
20120316 19:51:29< boucman> thx
20120316 19:51:43< boucman> and so for I don't see anything "wrong" with your design
20120316 19:54:50< Ivanovic> hi
20120316 19:55:43< fendrin> When creating the mouse_actions in editor_controller, I don't have the needed pointers/reference no longer at hand. 
20120316 19:56:20< fendrin> Because they are all inside of the palette manager then.
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20120316 20:43:06< anonymissimus> fendrin: is it the second time you are doing this stuff ? there's that fendrin_editor branch !?
20120316 20:44:25< fendrin> anonymissimus: It is the third time. I have some editor_merge branch as well.
20120316 20:46:11< fendrin> But the unit palette is new stuff. None of the branches does feature it.
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20120316 22:28:08< noy> Odd question, but anyone who has experience with ERP Programs could you please ping me privately? 
20120316 22:32:49< loonycyborg> Economic Report of the President? :P
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