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20120324 00:01:29< vultraz> ah
20120324 00:01:33< vultraz> thanks
20120324 00:02:10< Espreon> Yup.
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20120324 00:04:51< Espreon> rosta: I opened a query with you, yet you do not respond.
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20120324 02:20:07< CIA-69> alarantalara * r53621 /trunk/changelog: add changelog entry for r53615
20120324 02:23:01< CIA-69> alarantalara * r53622 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): add changelog entry for bug #19577
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20120324 02:24:57< CIA-69> alarantalara * r53623 /branches/1.10/ (changelog players_changelog): add changelog entry for bug #19577
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20120324 02:54:44< Teugon> Hi all,
20120324 02:54:45< Teugon> I have created a page in the wiki to place my proposal for GSoC: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Soc2012_Teugon_Refactor_Recruitment_Algorithm
20120324 02:54:45< Teugon>  However I'm not able to link it in the main topic: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Category:Summer_of_Code_2012_Student_Page 
20120324 02:54:45< Teugon> I've tried to edit that page to see how could I add it but i doesn't show a lot. Can you help me please? Working with wiki pages is new to me.
20120324 02:58:57< ejls> Teugon: Hi, I'm not a wesnoth dev, but I can help you with the wiki. :)
20120324 02:59:00< shadowm> so much HTML...
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20120324 02:59:46< ejls> Do not copy directly the HTML source, there is an "edit" link at the end of each page, you should use the wikitext source (a mediawiki-specific language).
20120324 03:01:09< ejls> Maybe you could start by reading http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Help:Editing and look at other students'proposal.
20120324 03:03:22< ejls> I'll edit your proposal to make it appears in the Idea page. However I don't have the courage to change all your HTML with wikitext (note that a subset of HTML is part of wikitext which explain why your page doesn't look that bad).
20120324 03:04:39< Teugon> yesterday I tought you said me to copy the wiki source, I supposed you were meaning exactly the html source code :p 
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20120324 03:06:47< ejls> Teugon: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/index.php?title=SoC2012_Template_of_Student_page&action=edit
20120324 03:07:08< ejls> that's the wikitext of the template of student page.
20120324 03:08:50< Teugon> ejls don't bother yourself editing my proposal I'll start it again using that
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20120324 03:11:15< Teugon> whoa your fast!
20120324 03:11:23< Teugon> whoa you're fast!
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20120324 08:25:30< mordante> servus
20120324 08:26:59< Espreon> Ic grete þe, Niðerlandes mordante.
20120324 08:27:17< mordante> elias, yes valgrind detects is at runtime... however then the code needs to be run as well, and my setup is too slow for it
20120324 08:27:19< mordante> hi Espreon 
20120324 08:27:27< mordante> shadowm, -Weff-c++
20120324 08:27:42< mordante> and also cppcheck
20120324 08:28:25< mordante> I'll run it now to test for them
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20120324 08:33:11< faryshta> hi mordante thanks for the answer.
20120324 08:33:24< mordante> faryshta, you're welcome
20120324 08:33:35< mordante> faryshta, do you have more questions at the moment?
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20120324 08:35:36< faryshta> mordante, well I am reading the pdf but I can't figure out if I am supposed to use databases or just the WML files.
20120324 08:36:53< mordante> faryshta, no databases, the amount of data isn't too big and we prefer to keep things simple
20120324 08:40:53< faryshta> mordante, last questions which will make sound like a moron. Which language will be used? Do you have a WML parser for this already?
20120324 08:41:55< mordante> faryshta, yup we have a WML parser, we use WML like XML with a DOM-parser
20120324 08:42:28< shadowm> faryshta: the current add-ons server uses the same WML parser used by Wesnoth
20120324 08:42:38< faryshta> mordante, thanks I felt stupid asking it but I wasn't sure.
20120324 08:42:42< shadowm> it uses the exact same source code, in fact, since they are more or less part of the same suite
20120324 08:42:47< Ivanovic> moin
20120324 08:42:52< mordante> faryshta, there are no stupid questions
20120324 08:43:06< mordante> shadowm, 32 uninitialized variables at the moment
20120324 08:43:07< mordante> hi Ivanovic 
20120324 08:43:42< shadowm> mordante: hm, okay, I'll be more interested in knowing where are they, just to make sure they are not in my own code.
20120324 08:43:58< shadowm> *they are
20120324 08:44:19< mordante> shadowm, might be, but I'll just fix em all
20120324 08:44:44< shadowm> I don't really adhere to that policy
20120324 08:45:39< shadowm> unless it's a very critical issue, I ask people to fix their own code if I find problems with it. It's only polite, since fixes like that could cause conflicts with whatever uncommitted (upstream) changes they have.
20120324 08:47:50< Ivanovic> mordante: what is the status regarding the integer scaling changes
20120324 08:48:10< Ivanovic> last monday you mentioned some more changes planned for this week
20120324 08:48:17< mordante> I do, I do a lot of janitoring, if I need to figure out who did what wrong I need ages
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20120324 08:48:50< mordante> Ivanovic, I'm finishing the buffered istream patches at the moment
20120324 08:48:58< Ivanovic> great!
20120324 08:49:11< Ivanovic> have you seen r53615 ?
20120324 08:49:13< mordante> they reduce the startup time from 978 ms to 866 ms
20120324 08:49:17< Ivanovic> wesbot: log r53615
20120324 08:49:18< wesbot> alarantalara * r53615 : use floats to calculate multplier effects in order to avoid errors when more than 3-4 multiply effects are applied
20120324 08:49:21< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=53615
20120324 08:49:37< Ivanovic> somehow i fear the impact of this one
20120324 08:49:56< Ivanovic> that is: it depends on how often those calculations are done and if the results are cachee
20120324 08:50:07< shadowm> anything with src/addon in its path atm is under my maintenance (de facto), so you know you can contact me about it if you feel tempted to just drop a commit with an unhelpful message like "fixed compiler warnings"
20120324 08:54:52< mordante> Ivanovic, I don't think it's a hot function
20120324 08:55:21< mordante> alarantalara what errors exactly does r53615 fix?
20120324 08:57:47< mordante> shadowm, then make sure you don't have compilation warnings :-|
20120324 08:58:17< shadowm> that's what I *always* do, except I use the DEFAULT warning set plus -Werror
20120324 08:58:18< mordante> also most fixes have a proper description, and if you start to police my commit messages, please also ask others to create better messages :-|
20120324 08:58:49< shadowm> and of course I'm going to add your warning flag to my configuration before I make another build
20120324 08:59:29< shadowm> although in --help=warning it shows up here without a hyphen
20120324 08:59:48< mordante> I wouldn't suggest to add -Weff-c++, the results are interesting...
20120324 08:59:59< shadowm> then I don't know what the hell you want me to do about warnings
20120324 09:00:22< mordante> like I said I don't mind to do the janitor job
20120324 09:00:42< mordante> Ivanovic, to return to your original question
20120324 09:01:20< shadowm> yeah, maybe you don't mind but I'd like to avoid that situation as much as possible
20120324 09:01:23< mordante> I added neon emulation for the x86 processor and want to start testing with it after I finished the buffered istream stuff
20120324 09:02:58< mordante> hope to have something ready tomorrow afternoon
20120324 09:04:19< Ivanovic> nice
20120324 09:05:14< mordante> that will not yet be the scaled int, but another hot function; blend_surface
20120324 09:05:26< mordante> there I think I can use the neon stuff more effectively
20120324 09:05:40< Ivanovic> there are probably several problematic areas which can use some tuning
20120324 09:05:48< Ivanovic> so every improvement is welcome
20120324 09:05:55< mordante> yup
20120324 09:06:20< mordante> I just look at the profiler output of the PC and look at the hotspots
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20120324 09:06:37< mordante> (that's how I ended up with the cached istream in the first place)
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20120324 09:09:50< shadowm> mordante: if you have some profiler output handy, maybe you could see what appears to take a lot of CPU time while idling on the titlescreen? that is, it takes up around 3 - 4% here, and yes, I have that silly animation disabled
20120324 09:10:50< shadowm> whether Wesnoth is in the background, foreground or minimized, or whether there's an active WM using GL for compositing doesn't seem to make any practical difference
20120324 09:10:58< mordante> shadowm, I can't since I don't idle in the lobby long enough to find its delay, a few seconds in the lobby versus hours of MP game
20120324 09:11:19< shadowm> ehm, what does the lobby have to do with this?
20120324 09:11:30< mordante> so I would need to generate a new profile with more time in the titlescreen
20120324 09:11:39< mordante> s/lobby/titlescreen
20120324 09:12:10< shadowm> I see the same issue with GUI1 dialogs such as Preferences
20120324 09:12:36< shadowm> it's rather intriguing since supposedly Wesnoth should be doing nothing more than waiting for input in these two cases
20120324 09:14:02< mordante> no idea it might be that SDL is doing something
20120324 09:14:09< mordante> but then I need to profile
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20120324 09:28:58< CIA-69> mordante * r53624 /trunk/src/buffered_istream.hpp: 
20120324 09:28:58< CIA-69> Add a new buffered std::istream wrapper.
20120324 09:28:58< CIA-69> This class increases the speed of the starting up code. The code is
20120324 09:28:58< CIA-69> game.cpp:374 -- 442. After converting the preprocessor and tokenizer to
20120324 09:28:58< CIA-69> use this new class the time of that part of the code went from 978 ms to
20120324 09:28:59< CIA-69> 866 ms.
20120324 09:29:04< CIA-69> mordante * r53625 /trunk/src/serialization/ (tokenizer.cpp tokenizer.hpp): 
20120324 09:29:04< CIA-69> Let the tokenizer use the new buffered istream.
20120324 09:29:04< CIA-69> It already had a initial incarnation of the code, but now switches to
20120324 09:29:04< CIA-69> the class. In fact the class was based on this code.
20120324 09:29:06< CIA-69> mordante * r53626 /trunk/src/serialization/preprocessor.cpp: Let the preprocessor use the new buffered istream.
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20120324 09:30:30< mordante> Ivanovic, ^ that might also help the Pandora, not sure how long the starting takes
20120324 09:30:49< Ivanovic> some time, but since you see a loadscreen this is okayish
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20120324 09:32:25< mordante> ok, then back to the drawing board and look at neon
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20120324 09:38:23< timotei> Hmmm... I'm wondering, are we "tweaking" the right parts?
20120324 09:38:48< mordante> timotei, ?
20120324 09:39:02< timotei> I mean, the improvement for a new istream/etc, isn't too small compared to a redesign of the logic of specific parts?
20120324 09:39:50< mordante> timotei, it helps more on Windows
20120324 09:40:17< mordante> also a 10% improvement if that part is not too shabby
20120324 09:40:41< mordante> since it doesn't just measure this algorithm but also overhead of other pieces of code
20120324 09:40:52< shadowm> timotei: if you mean "let's rewrite the parser and preprocessor" then I say "let's all rush for cover in case we get more ridiculous bugs like the overzealous WML attribute reinterpretation issue shadowm had to work around for 1.10 then"
20120324 09:42:02< shadowm> I also hear rumors of a (probably more parser than config-related in this case) problem with string interpolation and quoting that didn't exist before 1.9.x
20120324 09:42:12< timotei> shadowm: hmm, wasn't that about the caching system thonsew added?
20120324 09:42:16< shadowm> no
20120324 09:42:34< shadowm> the person I'm thinking of is silene
20120324 09:43:14< mordante> btw this change is rather safe and very easy to revert in case it causes any issues
20120324 09:43:21< shadowm> furthermore, the caching system you think of was reverted
20120324 09:43:27< shadowm> timotei: 
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20120324 09:43:56< timotei> shadowm: yeah, I know it was reverted.
20120324 09:44:12< timotei> hmm, wasn't once a problem when trunk was barely usable due to the long loading times? and silene fixed it?
20120324 09:44:47< shadowm> that was the case very early before 1.9.0 was released at all due to the great influx of new superrecursive terrain graphics WML macros
20120324 09:45:28< shadowm> I believe both the preprocessor was optimized later, and the macros themselves
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20120324 09:46:18< shadowm> I know the preprocessor changed in some significant way since I was unable to backport a DoS fix to 1.8 afterwards
20120324 09:46:31< shadowm> or reproduce the DoS in 1.8 for that matter
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20120324 11:22:50< Ivanovic> mordante: i think the fix from alarantalara was about this issue: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=524499#p524499
20120324 11:29:31< mordante> Ivanovic, ok, will look at it later, about to leave
20120324 11:29:42< Ivanovic> have fun
20120324 11:31:08< mordante> thanks
20120324 11:31:25< CIA-69> mordante * r53628 /trunk/src/editor/action/mouse/mouse_action_unit.hpp: Initialize all members.
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20120324 11:31:28< CIA-69> mordante * r53629 /trunk/src/editor/palette/editor_palettes.hpp: Initialize all members.
20120324 11:31:31< CIA-69> mordante * r53630 /trunk/src/editor/editor_controller.cpp: Initialize all members.
20120324 11:31:40< CIA-69> mordante * r53631 /trunk/src/editor/map/context_manager.cpp: Initialize all members.
20120324 11:31:40< CIA-69> mordante * r53632 /trunk/src/editor/toolkit/editor_toolkit.cpp: Initialize all members.
20120324 11:31:41< CIA-69> mordante * r53633 /trunk/src/savegame.cpp: Initialize all members.
20120324 11:31:45< CIA-69> mordante * r53634 /trunk/src/wesmage/options.cpp: Initialize all members.
20120324 11:31:47< CIA-69> mordante * r53635 /trunk/src/wesmage/wesmage.cpp: Properly return EXIT_SUCCESS upon success.
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20120324 12:48:04< CIA-69> loonycyborg * r53636 /branches/asio_wesnothd/src/server/ (server.cpp server.hpp): Added support for relaying messages to rooms.
20120324 12:48:08< CIA-69> loonycyborg * r53637 /branches/asio_wesnothd/src/server/server.cpp: Made new players actually join lobby.
20120324 12:49:19< CIA-69> loonycyborg * r53638 /branches/asio_wesnothd/ (419 files in 124 dirs): Merge branch 'master' into asio_wesnothd
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20120324 14:02:30< Alarantalara> mordante: the previous calculation method caused an integer overflow whenever there were more than 3-4 multiply/divide effects applied to a single calculation
20120324 14:04:16< Alarantalara> It appears there are already a few UMC eras that already exceed that number: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=36165&start=75#p524240
20120324 14:05:14< Alarantalara> in that case, the damage inflicted becomes 1, but I was also able to generate cases where resistances would become negative
20120324 14:07:43< Alarantalara> it could also cause out of sync errors if any compiler ever uses a 64-bit value for the int type
20120324 14:22:23< Alarantalara> While it would be possible to detect when an overflow would occur and provide and error message, the old limit is low enough that a multiplayer scenario combined with an era where neither caused the error could easily combine to create one
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20120324 14:51:21< Quillaume> bonjour
20120324 14:51:28< CIA-69> loonycyborg * r53639 /branches/asio_wesnothd/src/server/ (rooms.cpp rooms.hpp): Send proper WML on room joins.
20120324 14:51:54< loonycyborg> Je ne parles pas francais :P
20120324 14:52:21< TorminaTor> Je ne parle pas francais, aussi! ^^
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20120324 15:30:27< Alarantalara> There are artifacts in the scaled minimap now
20120324 15:39:23< CIA-69> alarantalara * r53640 /trunk/data/core/ (7 files in 2 dirs): consolidate the swamp plant images into one macro
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20120324 16:25:00< Quillaume> =)
20120324 16:25:12< Quillaume> le francais est interdit ?
20120324 16:27:13< Ivanovic> Quillaume: this is an international channel with most people not speaking french
20120324 16:27:25< Ivanovic> so please stick to english so that everyone in here has a chance to understand what you write
20120324 16:28:02< Quillaume> yeah, big answers! i'm a noob in english, and i search french speakers, but it's not a problem =)
20120324 16:29:26< Quillaume> I search, a open source game for write some line of code for my hoobbies 
20120324 16:32:34< CIA-69> loonycyborg * r53641 /branches/asio_wesnothd/src/server/server.cpp: Properly send diffs to other clients on logins/disconnects.
20120324 16:36:29< Quillaume> i'm on http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Project, but i don't found the architecture documentation of the game, the language, the lbrary, the layers, etc... 
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20120324 16:40:19< Quillaume> wesbot: make cagfe
20120324 16:40:28< Quillaume> café* :p
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20120324 16:45:13< ejls> Quillaume: There is a doxygen documentation: http://devdocs.wesnoth.org/
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20120324 18:39:10< CIA-69> ivanovic * r53642 /branches/1.10/ (384 files in 27 dirs): 
20120324 18:39:10< CIA-69> pot-update (a new string each in -help and -low)
20120324 18:39:10< CIA-69> regenerated doc files
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20120324 19:49:10< CIA-69> loonycyborg * r53643 /branches/asio_wesnothd/src/server/ (rooms.cpp rooms.hpp server.cpp server.hpp): Added support for setting/getting room topic.
20120324 19:52:12< fendrin_> loonycyborg: Those are sub chatrooms?
20120324 20:06:16< loonycyborg> fendrin_: Yes.
20120324 20:06:47< loonycyborg> Though they actually doesn't seem to be used much :P
20120324 20:08:03< loonycyborg> I really should get to reimplementing, you know, networked games themselves
20120324 20:08:28< fendrin_> indeed
20120324 20:08:31< shadowm> because only the GUI2 lobby provides useful support for them, client-side; and everyone knows the story
20120324 20:09:19< fendrin_> Isn't gui2 lobby introduced in the meanwhile? I remember it being removed from 1.8 but thought the 1.10 lobby would be the gui2 one.
20120324 20:09:56< fendrin_> loonycyborg: Well, enhancing their usability will make them more use. And the support for a topic is certainly an improvement.
20120324 20:10:03< fendrin_> s/use/used
20120324 20:10:17< shadowm> no, it's still there as crappy as it was when it was originally introduced in 1.8. It was never removed from 1.8, in fact.
20120324 20:10:33< shadowm> The only thing that was done was to restore the previously removed GUI0 lobby code and guard the GUI2 lobby behind a switch.
20120324 20:10:49< fendrin_> A compile switch or a commandline switch?
20120324 20:11:08< loonycyborg> There's an option in preferences.
20120324 20:11:12< shadowm> Neither.
20120324 20:11:37< shadowm> Look under Preferences -> Multiplayer
20120324 20:12:02< fendrin_> I see.
20120324 20:12:04< shadowm> (I think everyone who's been here since before 1.8 should know all this already.)
20120324 20:12:45< loonycyborg> I don't see any way to make new rooms other than '/join roomname' even in the new lobby.
20120324 20:13:09< shadowm> Right, but what I mean is that in the GUI2 lobby you can at least switch between rooms once created.
20120324 20:13:18< loonycyborg> Indeed.
20120324 20:13:29< fendrin_> But that won't help much.
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20120324 20:13:39< loonycyborg> But when I tried to do that today that didn't work very reliably.
20120324 20:13:40< fendrin_> Most people are not aware of them I bet.
20120324 20:13:58< shadowm> I can't see them being very useful in practice.
20120324 20:14:17< fendrin_> For the ladder people?
20120324 20:14:30< shadowm> I don't really care much about the ladder people.
20120324 20:16:13< fendrin_> And you do rightly so.
20120324 20:16:53< fendrin_> Like me not carring much about UMC designers whose insist of silly backwards compatibility.
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20120324 20:17:27< shadowm> Well, luckily for you although I don't care much about the Crazy MP People, I am aware that I'm not qualified to mess with their stuff.
20120324 20:18:27< shadowm> That's precisely why I haven't bothered to fix the GUI0 MP create screen layout on 800x480.
20120324 20:18:35< fendrin_> Why do you consider them crazy?
20120324 20:18:57< shadowm> Because I know I'll have to seek a compromise, and I know I'm not a MP user and therefore not qualified to decide best for them.
20120324 20:20:11< shadowm> Which is a big irony considering my first contributed patch targeted the MP setup screen.
20120324 20:21:59< shadowm> So yeah, in your case you have no excuse because you _are_ messing with our stuff. :p
20120324 20:22:12< loonycyborg> fendrin_: I don't see how separate rooms would be especially useful for ladder people anyway :P
20120324 20:23:15 * loonycyborg needs to make his commit messages more clear. s/added/reimplemented
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20120324 20:24:48< loonycyborg> But at least I have a glorified chat program now :P
20120324 20:27:25< fendrin_> :-)
20120324 20:30:24< timotei> fendrin_: backwards compatibility is good half the time.
20120324 20:30:32< timotei> That's the reason windows is still the most used OS 
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20120324 20:31:02< timotei> And probably if MS doesn't hit the ball in the wrong way with Windows 8 Metro UI will still be :P
20120324 20:34:37< vultraz> I can't wait for Windows 8
20120324 20:34:40< loonycyborg> wine and dosbox provide better compatibility for many pre 2000 year apps now :P
20120324 20:42:46< shadowm> timotei: no, that's not the only reason
20120324 20:43:28< timotei> shadowm: Well, yeah, I meant "one of the reasons". Thanks for pointing it out :)
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20120324 22:06:33< hankerspace> Hello
20120324 22:06:56< shadowm> hello there
20120324 22:06:58< hankerspace> Somebody can inform me about Google Summer Of Code ?
20120324 22:06:59< Rhonda> hankerspace: you mean more like you can find in the link in the topic?
20120324 22:08:10< hankerspace> Rhonda: Oh sorry, didnt see, thanks
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20120324 22:19:10< hankerspace> Rhonda: What's your role in the project ? What kind of dev are you doing ?
20120324 22:19:25< Rhonda> packaging for debian, german translation, server admin
20120324 22:21:25< hankerspace> And how long ?
20120324 22:22:47< Rhonda> several years, would have to look it up
20120324 22:24:25< hankerspace> Oh, so maybe you know Crab ?
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20120324 23:12:22< hankerspace> I've notices something, during the first tutorial, after killing the first unit, on each turn a message ask us if we want to continue the tutorial ... Is it normal ? Maybe this message should be show only once ?
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20120324 23:17:59< shadowm> yes, it's normal
20120324 23:19:59< hankerspace> Why not just once ? If the player says "no", this message dont have to appears until he kills the 3 other units ?
20120324 23:21:02< TorminaTor> because otherwise you could not leave this level properly
20120324 23:21:19< shadowm> the wording in the message and the displayed options suggests the original intention was to ask the player every time until they decide they're done fooling around
20120324 23:21:42< shadowm> the next scenario doesn't offer any opportunities to do that, hence the option
20120324 23:23:32< hankerspace> Yes, i undertsand but if the player needs 5 or 6 turn to kill the 3 units, this messages appears 5 or 6 times and i guess if he kills one unit he dont stop this scenario now, he waits to kill the 2 left ...
20120324 23:24:56< ayne> Not necessarily, I continued that scenario for a bit until I felt I'd gotten the hang of it and then I quit before I killed all the units
20120324 23:25:45< hankerspace> Ok, i see
20120324 23:29:36< TorminaTor> the only possibility, that comes to my mind, would be an exit-point on the map (and no round limit)
20120324 23:31:56< hankerspace> Or an additionnal button in the GUI to "skip to the next didactiel lvl" anytime we want ?
20120324 23:33:28< TorminaTor> I didn't work with the MapEditor, but is there a possibility to do such a thing?
20120324 23:34:05< TorminaTor> if not, you would have to handle the tutorial map diffrent than others (or generally adding such a feature)
20120324 23:35:28< hankerspace> Yes, because i think it's not possible directly from the mapeditor, so i guess we have to add this kind of feature only activated for this ttorial map
20120324 23:36:23< TorminaTor> therefore my suggestion would be easier and would be using existing capabilities
20120324 23:37:57< hankerspace> but with your suggestion, the player will have to wait 1 more turn to be able to exit (the exit point can't be in a 1-turn range) 
20120324 23:39:15< TorminaTor> yes, that would be the drawback
20120324 23:40:13< TorminaTor> But as I was on my way to bed, I will continue that journey ;)
20120324 23:40:29< TorminaTor> have fun, to think up a good solution, hankerspace 
20120324 23:40:32< hankerspace> My idea will be harder to implement but it will be better for the player
20120324 23:40:37< hankerspace> thanks good night TorminaTor
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20120324 23:43:05< hankerspace> Nobody else to suggest me with this feature ?
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20120324 23:53:56< CIA-69> espreon * r53644 /branches/1.10/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Updated the British English translation.
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