--- Log opened Mon Apr 16 00:00:41 2012
20120416 00:14:05< teugon> patch submitted, so good night
20120416 00:14:50-!- teugon [~teugon@2-234-35-21.ip221.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via]
20120416 00:16:01< tyrannodogg> goodnight everyone
20120416 00:16:02-!- tyrannodogg [~tyrannodo@ip-91-24.travedsl.de] has left #wesnoth-dev []
20120416 00:16:53-!- faryshta [~faryshta@189.242.236.7] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
20120416 00:23:20-!- Nephro [~Dmitry@02de475b.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
20120416 00:29:36-!- faryshta [~faryshta@201.137.99.101] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 00:30:28-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 00:39:11-!- reyalp_ [32876797@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.135.103.151] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20120416 00:43:50-!- gabba [~gabba@wesnoth/developer/gabba] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 00:45:40-!- neXyon [~neXyon@84-119-56-54.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: bye]
20120416 01:05:21-!- IvanSav [~IvanSav@ns2.ultranet.com.ua] has quit [Quit: IvanSav]
20120416 01:19:13-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-231-92.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 01:19:47-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-231-92.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 01:26:36-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-231-92.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 01:27:18-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-231-92.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 01:37:07-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 01:42:02-!- mattsc [~mattsc@d50-92-196-35.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: I'm asleep]
20120416 01:48:19-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 01:48:34-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 01:49:49-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: Wesnoth accepted in GSoC 2012 | http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SummerOfCodeIdeas | 173 bugs, 329 feature requests, 16 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20120416 01:57:13-!- Artemius23 [~yigit@139.179.207.83] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
20120416 02:01:48-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20120416 02:03:15-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 02:03:43-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 02:05:28-!- Artemius23 [~Artemius2@139.179.209.50] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 02:08:23-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 02:08:55-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 02:09:20-!- jamit [~james@pool-173-61-167-95.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net] has left #wesnoth-dev []
20120416 02:18:58-!- Artemius23 [~Artemius2@139.179.209.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
20120416 02:21:33-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has quit [Quit: leaving]
20120416 02:25:32-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 02:29:07-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-231-92.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 02:29:40-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-231-92.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 02:34:39-!- esr [~chatzilla@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 02:35:23-!- esr [~chatzilla@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host]
20120416 02:35:23-!- esr [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/esr] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 02:35:39-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
20120416 02:39:40-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 02:40:19< skyfaller> hi folks, does anyone know how to update a 1.8 map/scenario so that it will work with 1.10?
20120416 02:40:28-!- gabba [~gabba@wesnoth/developer/gabba] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 02:41:16-!- atomicbomb [~quassel@61.94.195.183] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 02:41:31-!- atomicbomber [~quassel@61.94.195.183] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 02:41:49-!- atomicbomb [~quassel@61.94.195.183] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 02:44:29-!- vcap_ [~vcap@AReims-551-1-158-244.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: leaving]
20120416 02:46:49< shadowm> wmllint
20120416 02:47:49< skyfaller> shadowm: ah, interesting, I'll have to check that out
20120416 02:47:57< shadowm> But I don't know whether anyone has documented it for users.
20120416 02:48:16< skyfaller> I see some brief help at http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Maintenance_tools
20120416 02:49:34< skyfaller> I'm not sure I understand how to get wmllint though...
20120416 02:49:43< skyfaller> do I have to download the source code to Wesnoth?
20120416 02:49:53< skyfaller> or do I already have it if I have the game?
20120416 02:50:27< shadowm> You'd need to check whether you have a data/tools directory in your game data directory.
20120416 02:50:46< skyfaller> oh, there it is
20120416 02:50:54< skyfaller> good, no need to download the source code
20120416 02:51:21< shadowm> That isn't all there's to it, though. wmllint isn't perfect and certainly not user-friendly either. You may need to do manual changes later if things don't work as expected.
20120416 02:51:40< shadowm> But at least map (as opposed to WML) conversions should be straightforward.
20120416 02:51:53< skyfaller> I just want to get it to load in Wesnoth so that I can tell what bugs there are from the new version of Wesnoth
20120416 02:52:28-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-158-244.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 02:52:36< skyfaller> right now I downloaded the 1.8 version of the add-on and put it in my add-on directory, but I don't see the map in the list of playable maps
20120416 02:53:10< skyfaller> I'm speaking of Aethaeryn's Maps: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=27742
20120416 02:53:28< skyfaller> I'm trying to make Fortress Assault playable in 1.10
20120416 02:53:35< skyfaller> it's my favorite map :)
20120416 02:54:17< skyfaller> bbl, dinner
20120416 03:04:38-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-127-62-183.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 03:08:42-!- eirikvw [189a49d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.154.73.210] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 03:15:40-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-231-92.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 03:16:23-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-231-92.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 03:41:09-!- atomicbomber [~quassel@61.94.195.183] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 03:41:48-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-127-62-183.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go sleeps kthxbai]
20120416 03:42:30-!- atomicbomb [~quassel@125.164.88.199] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 03:46:30-!- leonid [~leonid@220.113.2.146] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 04:03:26< skyfaller> Hi folks, can anybody help me use wmllint?
20120416 04:03:44< skyfaller> I'm trying to use it on Mac OS X 10.7.3
20120416 04:04:24 * shadowm has never used Mac OS X.
20120416 04:05:31< skyfaller> shadowm: here's what I'm running in my Terminal and the results that I get: http://pastebin.com/Gii5vnJP
20120416 04:05:58< skyfaller> oh
20120416 04:06:14< skyfaller> I'm not escaping the space in "Application Support"
20120416 04:07:28-!- eirikvw [189a49d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.154.73.210] has left #wesnoth-dev []
20120416 04:07:31-!- Dokem [8176d789@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.118.215.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20120416 04:10:42-!- _vdn1 [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 04:11:18< skyfaller> hm. Now when I try to open Wesnoth, I get the following error: http://pastebin.com/nuyLZGum
20120416 04:12:28< skyfaller> erm, I mean when I try to open a Local Game
20120416 04:13:08-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-231-92.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20120416 04:16:16< skyfaller> shadowm: do you know what I should do with this macro FLOATING_TEXT ?
20120416 04:16:34-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-127-62-183.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 04:16:57< skyfaller> the line in 4p_Fortress_Assault.cfg is: {FLOATING_TEXT side,canrecruit=$side_number,1 255,255,0 _"+50g"} 
20120416 04:17:38-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 04:18:23< skyfaller> I think that that's supposed to do is provide a "+50g" announcement over the mine every 10th turn when the mine gives the player 50 gold
20120416 04:18:39< skyfaller> does that floating text not exist in Wesnoth 1.10?
20120416 04:18:59< Espreon> There's [floating_text]
20120416 04:19:37< skyfaller> Espreon: how would I edit that line to use [floating_text] instead?
20120416 04:20:09< skyfaller> oh, nevermind I see a reference at http://wiki.wesnoth.org/InterfaceActionsWML#.5Bfloating_text.5D
20120416 04:21:14< skyfaller> hm
20120416 04:21:47< skyfaller> but that reference doesn't tell me how to deal with the "side,canrecruit=$side_number,1"
20120416 04:23:04< Espreon> Try putting it in a [filter] block.
20120416 04:23:21< skyfaller> Espreon: sorry, I'm a noob, I don't know what that is, could you elaborate?
20120416 04:23:36< Espreon> [filter][/filter]
20120416 04:23:41< Espreon> Put it in one of those.
20120416 04:23:48< skyfaller> oh, I see
20120416 04:24:13< skyfaller> do you suppose the 255,255,0 refers to the color of the text?
20120416 04:24:27< Espreon> It does indeed.
20120416 04:24:42< shadowm> I suspect [floating_text] isn't what that macro used in 1.8.
20120416 04:24:51< shadowm> Unless it was available then.
20120416 04:25:16< skyfaller> Maybe it wasn't? Dunno.
20120416 04:25:22< Espreon> It was not.
20120416 04:25:46< skyfaller> I'm confused as to why the old FLOATING_TEXT macro didn't need to refer to the location where it was supposed to appear
20120416 04:26:08< skyfaller> I know it is supposed to appear above the mine at x,y=8,2 so I can fill those coordinates in
20120416 04:26:15< skyfaller> but the old macro didn't mentiont hat
20120416 04:26:18< skyfaller> *mention that
20120416 04:27:32< Espreon> Try not specifying a location and just use the [filter] block.
20120416 04:27:57-!- enchilad1 [~enchilado@118-93-233-162.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 04:28:02-!- enchilad1 [~enchilado@118-93-233-162.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Changing host]
20120416 04:28:02-!- enchilad1 [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 04:28:03< shadowm> Maybe it used [print].
20120416 04:28:03-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has quit [Disconnected by services]
20120416 04:28:09-!- enchilad1 is now known as enchilado
20120416 04:28:15< skyfaller> so you're saying the [filter] block should be inside the [floating_text] block?
20120416 04:28:40-!- _vdn1 [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 04:29:13-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 04:29:19< Espreon> shadowm: No. It used [unstore_unit].
20120416 04:29:26< Espreon> skyfaller: Yes.
20120416 04:33:45< skyfaller> Espreon: including that filter block caused an error.
20120416 04:34:08< skyfaller> "Found invalid closing tag floating_text for tag filter"
20120416 04:34:14< Espreon> Well...
20120416 04:34:25< Espreon> ... you need to properly close the [floating_text] block.
20120416 04:35:27< skyfaller> Espreon: here's what I had: http://pastebin.com/0WKftVEQ
20120416 04:35:45< skyfaller> I don't see what I could have done differently
20120416 04:36:06< Espreon> ... Well...
20120416 04:36:17< Espreon> Don't smoosh the [filter] block on one line.
20120416 04:36:47< skyfaller> oh, that matters?
20120416 04:36:55< Espreon> Yup.
20120416 04:45:13< skyfaller> ok, well at least I can load the map now
20120416 04:45:22< skyfaller> Espreon: if I don't include the location, the +50 gold appears over every unit that I own
20120416 04:45:36< skyfaller> but if I do include the location as in the example, no floating text appears at all :(
20120416 04:45:54< skyfaller> I can
20120416 04:46:03< skyfaller> I can't seem to get the text to appear over the gold mine as intended
20120416 04:47:03< Espreon> ... Well, then something has gone horribly wrong.
20120416 04:47:10< skyfaller> :(
20120416 04:47:13< Espreon> Show me what you have this time.
20120416 04:48:34< skyfaller> Espreon: http://pastebin.com/7hmB2UcD
20120416 04:49:38-!- leonid [~leonid@220.113.2.146] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20120416 04:49:54< Espreon> skyfaller: Try removing the location and putting the contents of [filter] on their own lines. If that doesn't work, then IDK.
20120416 04:50:09< Espreon> Just say this lied: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/StandardLocationFilter
20120416 04:50:15< skyfaller> oh, you mean a newline instead of a comma?
20120416 04:50:27< Espreon> Yes.
20120416 04:51:51< skyfaller> erm
20120416 04:52:05< skyfaller> so just "side" on a line by itself and "1" on a line by itself?
20120416 04:52:08< skyfaller> that seems strange
20120416 04:53:16-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 04:53:33< skyfaller> Espreon: I guess I don't understand what "side,canrecruit=$side_number,1" does
20120416 04:53:52-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 04:54:44< Espreon> side=$side_number ... some variable is being used (it's probably an automatically created one) ... and canrecruit=1... no, don't use thatr.
20120416 04:54:55< Espreon> Use "canrecruit=yes".
20120416 04:55:13< Espreon> 0 or 1 as booleans might even be obsolete.
20120416 04:55:33< skyfaller> so just side=$side_number and canrecruit=1 ?
20120416 04:55:59< Espreon> Umm... no.
20120416 04:56:08< skyfaller> oh
20120416 04:56:09< skyfaller> lol
20120416 04:56:10< Espreon> Use "canrecruit=yes".
20120416 04:56:13< skyfaller> sorry :)
20120416 04:56:21< Espreon> Don't worry. I won't eat you... yet.
20120416 04:58:00< skyfaller> Espreon: bah, now I don't get any text at all, even though I removed the location
20120416 05:00:09< skyfaller> wait a minute
20120416 05:00:24< skyfaller> I might be screwing this up by loading from a saved game, hold on
20120416 05:00:29 * Espreon hopes so
20120416 05:00:49< skyfaller> b/c I reverted back to what gave me gold over every unit, and now that doesn't give me any text
20120416 05:04:31-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has quit [Quit: BBL->]
20120416 05:04:44< skyfaller> Espreon: ok, now putting the things on separate lines gives me gold over every unit :P
20120416 05:05:13< skyfaller> this is annoying b/c I have to advance to turn 10 every time I want to test this
20120416 05:05:20< Espreon> OK, then this lied to me http://wiki.wesnoth.org/StandardLocationFilter
20120416 05:05:26< Espreon> IDK what to do.
20120416 05:05:59< skyfaller> OK, I guess this doesn't make the map unplayable
20120416 05:06:00< Espreon> Well... you could just fish for the contents of the FLOATING_TEXT macro and use it.
20120416 05:06:10< skyfaller> Espreon: how would I do that?
20120416 05:06:37< skyfaller> I don't know where that macro is
20120416 05:06:38< Espreon> Just open data/core/macros/interface-utils.cfg from a 1.8.x installation and use it.
20120416 05:06:48< Espreon> *copypaste... and use
20120416 05:06:50< Espreon> Blargh.
20120416 05:06:53< skyfaller> ah, that never occurred to me
20120416 05:09:23< skyfaller> Espreon: where do I paste it once I have it?
20120416 05:13:41< Espreon> Somewhere it'd get defined before scenarios are included.
20120416 05:14:03-!- Gambit [~gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20120416 05:19:09< skyfaller> Espreon: I don't know what you mean. Somewhere inside 4p_Fortress_Assault.cfg ?
20120416 05:20:34< Espreon> Somewhere in utils/ would probably be better.
20120416 05:20:47< Espreon> .. if you have something like that.
20120416 05:21:07< skyfaller> you mean in Wesnoth.app ? or in the add-on?
20120416 05:21:44< Espreon> Add-on.
20120416 05:22:24< skyfaller> Espreon: I don't have utils folder for the add-on
20120416 05:23:47< skyfaller> I just tried pasting it in right above where the macro is called in the .cfg file, and that resulted in the gold text appearing above exactly one random unit, rather than over the gold mine :P
20120416 05:24:05< skyfaller> I suppose that's slightly better than having it appear over all of the units?
20120416 05:25:11< skyfaller> the description of the macro says "Floats the given text above the given unit"
20120416 05:25:34< skyfaller> hm.
20120416 05:25:36< Espreon> Just go back to using what was there before you tried to make use of [floating_text].
20120416 05:27:28-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 05:28:06-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 05:29:35< skyfaller> ohhhhh, I get it!  If use the location, it won't show the text unless I have a unit standing on the mine!
20120416 05:29:45< skyfaller> because it's supposed to be attached to a unit
20120416 05:29:55< skyfaller> the mine won't show the text by itself, using that macro
20120416 05:30:40< Espreon> Yeah.
20120416 05:31:19< skyfaller> is there any way to make the mine show the text by itself? :P
20120416 05:33:36-!- dokem [8176d789@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.118.215.137] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 05:35:36-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 05:35:53< Espreon> Probably.
20120416 05:36:07< Espreon> ... but I don't know this scenario at all.
20120416 05:36:11< Espreon> ... so yeah...
20120416 05:36:13-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 05:36:46< skyfaller> well, basically I want floating text to appear over a location whether or not there is a unit there
20120416 05:37:47< Espreon> That's doable.
20120416 05:45:25-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-149.coburn.residences.colby.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
20120416 05:46:18-!- loonycyborg [loonycybor@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20120416 05:48:15-!- loonycyborg [loonycybor@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 05:51:43-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 05:52:19-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 06:00:07-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 06:00:42-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 06:05:37-!- Artemius23 [~Artemius2@139.179.209.26] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 06:17:49< skyfaller> Espreon: OK, but how is it doable? :)
20120416 06:18:32-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit []
20120416 06:21:15< Espreon> skyfaller: I don't know. I'd have to look at entire scenario.
20120416 06:21:46< skyfaller> Espreon: can you give me any examples of a scenario where text appears over a location at a given time, whether or not there is a unit there?
20120416 06:22:30< Espreon> ANL maybe?
20120416 06:26:56-!- Artemius23 [~Artemius2@139.179.209.26] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20120416 06:43:15-!- neph [~neph@02de475b.bb.sky.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 06:43:42< vultraz> skyfaller: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/InterfaceActionsWML#.5Bfloating_text.5D ?
20120416 06:46:33-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-127-62-183.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go sleeps kthxbai]
20120416 06:47:19-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 06:54:24-!- csarmi [csarmi@84-236-96-193.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit []
20120416 06:58:06-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 07:05:52-!- neph [~neph@02de475b.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
20120416 07:06:58-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 07:07:40-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 07:17:06-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 07:18:44-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 07:20:40-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 07:41:49-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20120416 08:10:07-!- trademark_ [~trademark@mon69-1-82-67-23-185.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 08:11:18-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-127-62-183.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 08:27:08-!- faryshta [~faryshta@201.137.99.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20120416 08:37:19-!- trademark_ [~trademark@mon69-1-82-67-23-185.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20120416 08:38:08-!- trademark_ [~trademark@mon69-1-82-67-23-185.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 08:39:03-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@80.250.162.179] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 08:41:30-!- faryshta [~faryshta@201.141.216.73] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 09:06:37-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 09:11:08-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 09:11:08-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host]
20120416 09:11:08-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 09:15:30-!- boucman_mobile [~boucman@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 09:27:10-!- thethomaseffect [~thethomas@86-44-234-0-dynamic.b-ras1.mgr.mullingar.eircom.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20120416 09:30:24-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@80.250.162.179] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 09:55:33-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@80.250.162.179] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 10:02:34-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-127-62-183.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: And that’s the end of THAT chapter.]
20120416 10:02:52-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-127-62-183.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 10:12:08-!- faryshta [~faryshta@201.141.216.73] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20120416 10:14:07-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@80.250.162.179] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 10:22:14< Rhonda> http://lists.debian.org/4F8B2ABB.1050902@gmail.com and following, I am thinking of writing a mail response.
20120416 10:23:35< shadowm> oh sweet gods ¬_¬
20120416 10:26:51< shadowm> I think I would be happier if we could ever come to a consensus regarding that topic.
20120416 10:32:44-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20120416 10:32:53-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 10:33:03-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host]
20120416 10:33:03-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 10:33:30-!- faryshta [~faryshta@189.242.234.55] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 10:36:48-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@80.250.162.179] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 10:38:39< Rhonda> shadowm: me too, it's not like I didn't bring up the topic YEARS ago already (was wesnoth unrelated back then)
20120416 10:38:51< Rhonda> This is not a wesnoth specific topic, wesnoth is just an example in that mail
20120416 10:40:46-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 10:44:27< shadowm> Rhonda: in this Wesnoth-specific case, I suppose what our README says at the top isn't enough?
20120416 10:46:03< shadowm> Although I'm not happy with our ("our"?) wording there.
20120416 10:46:19-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@80.250.162.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20120416 10:48:56< Rhonda> there is no our in the README? :)
20120416 10:50:24< shadowm> No, I mean that the commit originating that heading doesn't link a ML post or forum topic or suggest any conversation where the exact wording was decided upon, so it might be an unilateral decision for all I know.
20120416 10:51:56< Rhonda> ah, right
20120416 10:52:41-!- EdB_ [~edb@tss37-1-89-82-194-231.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 10:52:49-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-127-62-183.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: And that’s the end of THAT chapter.]
20120416 10:53:29< shadowm> The part that bothers me is 'modifiable' in "the modifiable form that the author chooses to ship us for the source tree". Somehow this suggests (to me, anyway) that the modifiability of the assets can still be a point of contention.
20120416 10:55:28< shadowm> But that's just me, anyway; I probably wouldn't be able to write accurate legalese to save my own life.
20120416 11:02:00-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@ppp59-167-222-56.qld.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 11:04:47< Rhonda> there is no chattr +i on the file so it's modifiable ;)
20120416 11:05:06< Rhonda> technicly, audacity can load the files and modify them
20120416 11:05:20< Rhonda> And there is loads of plugins to help with that.
20120416 11:10:21-!- neXyon [~neXyon@84-119-56-54.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 11:24:22-!- dokem [8176d789@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.118.215.137] has quit [Quit: Page closed]
20120416 11:30:24-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20120416 11:30:31-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 11:30:31-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host]
20120416 11:30:31-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 11:38:24-!- boucman_mobile [~boucman@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20120416 11:38:30-!- boucman_mobile [~boucman@80.214.0.201] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 11:38:30-!- boucman_mobile [~boucman@80.214.0.201] has quit [Changing host]
20120416 11:38:30-!- boucman_mobile [~boucman@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 11:38:33-!- vultraz_laptop [~chatzilla@124.109.10.221] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 11:42:59-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 11:43:10-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 11:43:10-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host]
20120416 11:43:10-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 11:49:40-!- atomicbomb [~quassel@125.164.88.199] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20120416 12:03:25-!- MeccaGod [majs@host189-199.bornet.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 12:17:15-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 12:17:25-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 12:22:50-!- EdB_ [~edb@tss37-1-89-82-194-231.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20120416 12:23:37-!- vultraz_laptop [~chatzilla@124.109.10.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
20120416 12:29:05-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 12:37:58-!- horon [~horon@nttkyo322045.tkyo.nt.ngn2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 12:44:07-!- boucman_mobile [~boucman@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
20120416 12:44:21-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has quit [Quit: BBL->]
20120416 12:44:56-!- boucman_mobile [~boucman@80.214.4.6] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 12:44:56-!- boucman_mobile [~boucman@80.214.4.6] has quit [Changing host]
20120416 12:44:56-!- boucman_mobile [~boucman@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 12:48:29-!- Alarantalara [~Adium@CPEc0c1c09e8055-CM00252eac6d62.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 12:50:29-!- boucman_mobile [~boucman@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
20120416 12:52:51-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20120416 12:52:58-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 12:53:04-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host]
20120416 12:53:05-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 13:00:59-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 13:01:29-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 13:02:06-!- neph [~neph@02de475b.bb.sky.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 13:06:31-!- neph [~neph@02de475b.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
20120416 13:07:37-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20120416 13:11:35-!- loonybot [~loonybot@46.138.72.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 13:11:35-!- loonybot [~loonybot@46.138.72.104] has quit [Changing host]
20120416 13:11:35-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 13:17:12-!- Crendgrim [~crend@77-22-112-72-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 13:21:01-!- trademark_ [~trademark@mon69-1-82-67-23-185.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
20120416 13:24:05< Espreon> Rhonda: I wish people would shut up about those and pretend potential issues like that don't exist, but... that's just me, I guess.
20120416 13:31:01-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-149.coburn.residences.colby.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 13:34:40-!- faryshta [~faryshta@189.242.234.55] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
20120416 13:38:18-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 13:38:30-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 13:40:09-!- boucman_mobile [~boucman@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 13:41:19-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Client Quit]
20120416 13:41:34-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 13:41:34-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host]
20120416 13:41:34-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 13:44:00-!- atomicbomb [~quassel@125.160.84.70] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 13:48:37-!- faryshta [~faryshta@189.242.234.55] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 14:01:19-!- faryshta [~faryshta@189.242.234.55] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
20120416 14:02:10-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@d190247.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 14:08:03-!- vultraz_laptop [~chatzilla@124.109.10.221] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 14:09:30-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 14:10:02-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 14:10:13-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 14:13:18-!- faryshta [~faryshta@201.141.243.137] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 14:23:03-!- Alarantalara [~Adium@99.255.59.235] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 14:23:40-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 14:24:17-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 14:26:17-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 14:26:34-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 14:27:20-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 14:27:29-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 14:29:41-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 14:30:15-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 14:35:14-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 14:35:48-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 14:43:02-!- Haldric [~Haldric@wesnoth/translator/Haldric] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 14:49:48-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 14:50:22-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 14:53:54-!- vultraz_laptop [~chatzilla@124.109.10.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20120416 14:57:27< CIA-69> ai0867 * r53943 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/libgithub.py: Make libgithub's readonly cleanup a bit more potent
20120416 14:57:27-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 14:58:03-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 15:04:23< CIA-69> ai0867 * r53944 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/libgithub.py: Say *which* add-on is blocked by untracked files
20120416 15:07:58-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20120416 15:10:20-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 15:10:20-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host]
20120416 15:10:20-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 15:13:38-!- faryshta [~faryshta@201.141.243.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
20120416 15:32:58-!- neph [~neph@02de475b.bb.sky.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 15:37:34-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 15:38:15-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 15:39:46-!- faryshta [~faryshta@201.141.243.137] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 15:42:22-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@d190247.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20120416 15:53:35-!- mattsc [~mattsc@S0106000352077632.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 15:54:24-!- ettin [~jorda@li145-112.members.linode.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 15:54:37-!- ettin [~jorda@li145-112.members.linode.com] has quit [Changing host]
20120416 15:54:37-!- ettin [~jorda@wesnoth/developer/ettin] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 15:57:27< mattsc> neph: I tested the 4 different ai.debug... movemaps.  For all I can see, they work as expected and update in real time.  Currently, they still work if I am not in debug mode also (I assume you haven't done that part yet?).
20120416 15:57:53< mattsc> I also tested ai.check_move() and ai.check_attack().  They work as well.
20120416 15:58:05-!- vultraz is now known as reeed
20120416 15:58:12< neph> mattsc, hi, no, haven't done that yet, will probably do today, thanks for the testing
20120416 15:58:47< mattsc> A few observations (which have nothing to with your implementation, but should be documented when either you or I update the wiki):
20120416 15:59:28< mattsc> - movemaps for your own side are for the current MP, while enemy movemaps are for max_moves (which makes sense)
20120416 16:00:36< mattsc> - movemaps for my units do _not_ include hexes occupied by allied units (except for the hex the unit itself is on).  That's different from the highlighted hexes when you click on a unit and from what wesnoth.find_reach returns
20120416 16:00:44< neph> mattsc, I'll run off for 30 minutes, I'll read it when I'm back
20120416 16:00:54< mattsc> neph: ok, bye
20120416 16:01:49-!- reeed is now known as vultraz
20120416 16:01:49< mattsc> - Slightly inconsistent with that (but not a problem), if the AI side has no moves left, the empty table is returned, i.e., the hexes the units are on are not included.
20120416 16:03:00-!- Haldric [~Haldric@wesnoth/translator/Haldric] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20120416 16:03:28< mattsc> - The return value (table) for ai.check_moves() and ai.moves() are not always the same.  If the move is to a hex that is passable, but out of reach, the former returns 'ok=true', the latter 'ok=false'.
20120416 16:04:19< mattsc> I assume that's because this condition (E_NOT_REACHED_DESTINATION) is checked for at the end of the move, not at the beginning.  Again, not a problem, but something the AI coder should be aware of.
20120416 16:05:52< mattsc> All of that comes from the C++ methods and not from the Lua implementation.  That's fine, but it should be documented.
20120416 16:07:41< Akihara> Crab_: I have a little question (if someone else know)... I'm seeking to understand what a candidate_action is :)
20120416 16:07:51-!- mattsc [~mattsc@S0106000352077632.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: I'm asleep]
20120416 16:15:43-!- faryshta [~faryshta@201.141.243.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20120416 16:20:31-!- neph [~neph@02de475b.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20120416 16:25:01-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 16:25:35-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 16:28:06-!- mattsc [~mattsc@fw.hia.nrc.ca] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 16:29:17-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Client Quit]
20120416 16:29:22< mattsc> Akihara: for starters, check out this: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/General_RCA_AI_Howto and possibly the pages it links to
20120416 16:29:39< mattsc> After that, let me know what questions you have
20120416 16:29:50-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 16:31:25-!- faryshta [~faryshta@189.242.234.55] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 16:33:18-!- neph [~neph@02de475b.bb.sky.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 16:37:14-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20120416 16:38:20-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 16:38:20-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host]
20120416 16:38:20-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 16:51:17-!- atomicbomb [~quassel@125.160.84.70] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20120416 17:02:02-!- horon [~horon@nttkyo322045.tkyo.nt.ngn2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving...]
20120416 17:02:37-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 17:03:17-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 17:07:55-!- Artemius23 [~yigit@139.179.92.108] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 17:13:35-!- ettin [~jorda@wesnoth/developer/ettin] has quit [Quit: leaving]
20120416 17:15:09-!- MeccaGod [majs@host189-199.bornet.net] has quit []
20120416 17:17:19-!- trademark_ [~trademark@mon69-1-82-67-23-185.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 17:18:52-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 17:19:05-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 17:19:05-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host]
20120416 17:19:05-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 17:19:23-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 17:19:46-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 17:20:48-!- boucman_mobile [~boucman@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )]
20120416 17:26:26-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 17:26:59-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 17:32:12-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 17:33:40-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 17:34:13-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 17:38:29-!- csarmi [csarmi@188-143-125-109.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 17:41:00-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 17:41:34-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 17:50:44-!- Artemius23 [~yigit@139.179.92.108] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
20120416 17:53:23-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 17:53:49-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.114.134.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20120416 17:53:54-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 17:56:00-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.114.134.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 17:57:50-!- crimson_pingvin [~ben@S0106602ad06b8003.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.]
20120416 17:57:58-!- neXyon [~neXyon@84-119-56-54.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: bye]
20120416 18:00:14-!- matthiaskrgr [matthiaskr@184.171.255.77] has quit [Quit: GeekBouncer - http://geekbouncer.co.uk]
20120416 18:02:05-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 18:02:14-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl4E5CD703.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 18:02:39-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 18:12:07< Akihara> mattsc: thanks, I will read it :) 
20120416 18:21:52-!- matthiaskrgr [matthiaskr@184.171.255.77] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 18:22:51-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-20-82-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 18:23:04-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-20-82-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Changing host]
20120416 18:23:05-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 18:24:33-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 18:25:02-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 18:29:27-!- Haldric [~Haldric@wesnoth/translator/Haldric] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 18:30:22< fendrin> hello
20120416 18:32:48< Espreon> fendrin: Hello.
20120416 18:35:41< vultraz> hey fendrin 
20120416 18:37:51-!- Sirp_ [97c1dc1b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.151.193.220.27] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 18:38:08-!- khoover [~crazy1010@70.51.111.75] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20120416 18:38:45-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 18:41:08< Rhonda> Espreon: Well, it is tough for art to be covered under GPL, and the GPL is specificly tailored for code.  The best option is to use CC by-sa for art.
20120416 18:43:40-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl4E5CD703.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20120416 18:44:11-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 18:44:48-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 18:46:59-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 18:49:00-!- vultraz_laptop [~chatzilla@124.109.10.221] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 18:50:27-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has quit [Client Quit]
20120416 18:51:09-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 18:51:41-!- khoover [~crazy1010@bas5-unionville55-1177790780.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 18:53:21-!- oldtopman [~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 18:55:46-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl4E5CD703.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 18:57:58-!- Samual [diotecktec@c-71-195-88-69.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20120416 19:00:16-!- Samual [diotecktec@c-71-195-88-69.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 19:16:48-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 19:17:22-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 19:25:19-!- vultraz_laptop [~chatzilla@124.109.10.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20120416 19:33:42< boucman> fendrin: around ?
20120416 19:34:26-!- Samual [diotecktec@c-71-195-88-69.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
20120416 19:34:32< fendrin> boucman: yes
20120416 19:34:33< fendrin> boucman: hi
20120416 19:35:31< boucman> hey
20120416 19:35:44< boucman> have you followed the thread about the new random map generator ?
20120416 19:37:27-!- neXyon [~neXyon@84-119-56-54.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 19:39:15-!- matthiaskrgr [matthiaskr@184.171.255.77] has quit [Quit: GeekBouncer - http://geekbouncer.co.uk]
20120416 19:41:33-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 19:42:47-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 19:43:00< boucman> fendrin: ^^
20120416 19:43:01-!- enchilado [~enchilado@219-88-24-28.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 19:43:57-!- enchilado [~enchilado@219-88-24-28.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Changing host]
20120416 19:43:57-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 19:47:03< fendrin> boucman: i have but not recently
20120416 19:47:24< boucman> well, the original author PMed me recently
20120416 19:47:26< Sirp_> boucman: link to thread?
20120416 19:47:33< fendrin> boucman: Please give me a link?
20120416 19:47:48< fendrin> hi Sirp_
20120416 19:47:50< boucman> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=36466
20120416 19:47:53< boucman> hey Sirp_
20120416 19:48:01< Sirp_> hi
20120416 19:48:33< boucman> basically pyrophorus sent me his code for me to do what I want with it
20120416 19:49:14< boucman> my feeling is that he got tired of the "i'll release under GPL once i'm happy with it" vs "oh my god, you're trampling on FOSS principles"
20120416 19:49:49-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: Wesnoth accepted in GSoC 2012 | http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SummerOfCodeIdeas | 172 bugs, 329 feature requests, 16 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20120416 19:49:55< boucman> so we have his algo, he might integrate it in wesnoth if someone gives him a helping hand, and since you're probably the one that knows the area the best I wanted to ping you
20120416 19:51:17-!- gabba [d8623926@wesnoth/developer/gabba] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 19:51:43< fendrin> boucman: You don't have a patch, just some pseudo code, right?
20120416 19:52:06< boucman> no, I have a code for the CLI program he wrote that generate maps as text files
20120416 19:52:24< boucman> but it's not a patch to wesnoth, it needs to be ported
20120416 19:52:51< fendrin> okay, I can do that.
20120416 19:53:07< fendrin> Please send me the code as a forum PM.
20120416 19:53:18< boucman> ok, will do
20120416 19:53:30< fendrin> boucman: I like the seed thing.
20120416 19:53:35-!- matthiaskrgr [matthiaskr@184.171.255.77] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 19:54:38< boucman> fendrin: sent, i'll reply to pyrophorus, and i'll let you contact him directly
20120416 19:54:43< boucman> is that ok ?
20120416 19:54:46< fendrin> sure
20120416 19:55:00< fendrin> he shall contact me
20120416 19:55:02< fendrin> here 
20120416 19:55:12< boucman> ok, i'll redirect him to IRC then
20120416 19:55:15< fendrin> cool
20120416 19:55:17-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 19:55:53-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 19:59:41-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Client Quit]
20120416 20:00:14-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 20:02:24-!- hankerspace_ [~quassel@ip-10.net-81-220-251.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 20:02:26-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@wh.uni-dortmund.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 20:04:43< hankerspace_> Hi everyone
20120416 20:05:43< fendrin> hi hankerspace_
20120416 20:06:30< hankerspace_> wesbot seen Crab_
20120416 20:06:31< wesbot> hankerspace_: The person with the nick Crab_ last spoke 22h 5m ago.  22h 5m ago they left with the message: Quit: Do it for joy and you can do it forever
20120416 20:08:41< neph> hi, everyone. Need a hint with the C++ side of wesnoth, mainly: how can I determine whether the game is launched in debug mode?
20120416 20:09:58-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 20:10:31-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 20:13:38< hankerspace_> neph: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/DebugMode
20120416 20:14:55< neph> hankerspace_, that doesn't really say how I can find out whether the game is launched in this mode.
20120416 20:16:43< hankerspace_> neph: a lot of debug message are displayed ...
20120416 20:17:17< neph> hankerspace_, I meant that I need to know that from C++
20120416 20:19:51< hankerspace_> neph:  i don't really know what do you mean ...  But if debug mode is enable you can use output stream on "DBG_DP" to display some messages
20120416 20:22:34< neph> I basically need to do something like "if (!debug_mode) { disable_lua_debug_libs(); }"
20120416 20:24:27< mattsc> neph: there are lines like this in src/ai/context.cpp:
20120416 20:24:36< mattsc>         if(game_config::debug) { ... 
20120416 20:26:30-!- loonycyborg [loonycybor@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 20:27:28-!- matthiaskrgr [matthiaskr@184.171.255.77] has quit [Quit: GeekBouncer - http://geekbouncer.co.uk]
20120416 20:27:49-!- loonycyborg [loonycybor@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 20:29:39< neph> ok, mattsc thanks :) This will allow me to disable the debug libs very easily
20120416 20:40:58-!- enchilad1 [~enchilado@210-55-84-32.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 20:41:19-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has quit [Disconnected by services]
20120416 20:41:24-!- enchilad1 is now known as enchilado
20120416 20:41:27-!- enchilado [~enchilado@210-55-84-32.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Changing host]
20120416 20:41:27-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 20:50:44-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 20:51:17-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 20:51:37-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-127-62-183.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 20:51:51-!- mordante [~mordante@roadie.xs4all.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 20:51:51-!- mordante [~mordante@roadie.xs4all.nl] has quit [Changing host]
20120416 20:51:51-!- mordante [~mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 20:52:06< mordante> servus
20120416 20:54:14-!- Haldric [~Haldric@wesnoth/translator/Haldric] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20120416 20:55:11-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy]
20120416 20:56:43< mordante> hankerspace_, how is it going with your patch?
20120416 20:58:17< hankerspace_> mordante: you didn't give me advises about my last revision
20120416 21:00:04< mordante> hankerspace_, I did we discussed it on IRC
20120416 21:01:34< hankerspace_> mordante: I didn't underrstand your last will :s 
20120416 21:02:30< mordante> you were looking at the code for lexical_cast for a better solution
20120416 21:02:57< mordante> the problem with the current patch is that if fails is the user thinks "never" is a proper value as well
20120416 21:04:10< hankerspace_> But i can update the wiki to specify what the user can use as a value and what he cant ...
20120416 21:05:28< mordante> of course but that doesn't mean the code should terminate itself without a message
20120416 21:05:34-!- Crendgrim [~crend@77-22-112-72-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: ...]
20120416 21:05:58< mordante> also the file where lexical_cast is defined contains a good solution...
20120416 21:07:06< hankerspace_> I'll try to take a look, i have a lot of free time tomorrow mordante
20120416 21:07:17< mordante> ok good
20120416 21:07:45-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 21:08:31< shadowm> wesbot: seen Upthorn
20120416 21:08:32< wesbot> shadowm: Queried user last spoke 12d 10h ago.  Upthorn is currently in this channel.
20120416 21:08:43-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 21:08:48-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20120416 21:15:17-!- Valectar [~Valectar@c-69-181-249-72.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 21:18:00-!- Samual [diotecktec@c-71-195-88-69.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 21:37:50-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-127-62-183.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go sleeps kthxbai]
20120416 21:40:36< mordante> I'm off night
20120416 21:40:41-!- mordante [~mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20120416 21:41:39-!- Artemius23 [~yigit@139.179.207.91] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 21:57:30-!- tyrannodogg [~tyrannodo@ip-116-23.travedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 21:58:11-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 21:58:56-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 22:26:16-!- neph [~neph@02de475b.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 22:28:17-!- Nephro [~Dmitry@02de475b.bb.sky.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 22:29:04-!- Artemius23 [~yigit@139.179.207.91] has left #wesnoth-dev ["Ex-Chat"]
20120416 22:34:46-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 22:35:18-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 22:37:03< Upthorn> shadowm: ?
20120416 22:40:13< shadowm> I was checking whether you were still active, since I might have found a bug in the persistent WML stuff. But I have yet to collect further information, since it's a deterministic crash on Mac OS X, which I don't use, and on Linux it's memory corruption instead.
20120416 22:41:47-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy]
20120416 22:43:11-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 22:43:44-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 22:49:08-!- PolarPanda [~quassel@unaffiliated/peterporty] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 22:49:13< CIA-69> nephro * r53945 /trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): LuaAI: (1) added wesnoth.is_debug_mode(); (2) disabled the LuaAI debug library usage for non-debug launch modes
20120416 22:49:18-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 22:49:53-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 22:50:59< Nephro> mattsc, ^ ^, now the debug lib isn't registering the functions if not in debug mode, tested and it works.
20120416 22:52:41-!- matthiaskrgr [matthiaskr@184.171.255.77] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 22:53:40-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Client Quit]
20120416 22:54:17-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 22:58:10< Nephro> boucman, Crab_, gabba, mordante : update my proposal with more patches from me, if that is still important.
20120416 22:59:18-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.114.134.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20120416 22:59:33-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.114.134.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 23:01:04-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 23:01:30-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 23:03:49-!- Nephro [~Dmitry@02de475b.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
20120416 23:12:03-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl4E5CD703.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20120416 23:13:09-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 23:13:44-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 23:13:48-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 23:16:58-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@ppp59-167-222-56.qld.adsl.internode.on.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20120416 23:21:51< Upthorn> shadowm: ah.
20120416 23:25:30-!- csarmi_home [csarmi@94-21-126-250.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 23:27:08-!- csarmi [csarmi@188-143-125-109.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20120416 23:28:00-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@wh.uni-dortmund.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20120416 23:30:12-!- neph [~neph@02de475b.bb.sky.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 23:35:49-!- Gambit [~gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 23:36:03< mattsc> Nephro: thanks
20120416 23:37:28-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 23:38:02-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 23:45:13-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy]
20120416 23:54:07-!- trademark_ [~trademark@mon69-1-82-67-23-185.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20120416 23:55:43-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20120416 23:58:10-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20120416 23:58:41-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
--- Log closed Tue Apr 17 00:00:53 2012