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Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20120419 01:53:27-!- PolarPanda [~quassel@unaffiliated/peterporty] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 02:01:40-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20120419 02:02:27-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 02:08:44-!- neph [~neph@b0fa3f89.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20120419 02:12:04-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20120419 02:13:21-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 02:26:45< Espreon> Ivanovic: When do you plan on tagging 1.10.3? 20120419 02:32:25-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 02:32:57-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 02:36:15< Gambit> already? :o 20120419 02:37:03< Espreon> No, I'm just wondering since I'm waiting till the last second to do something. 20120419 02:45:47-!- atomicbomb [~quassel@125.160.85.112] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 03:07:49-!- faryshta [~faryshta@201.137.94.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20120419 03:14:23-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20120419 03:15:16-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 03:15:59-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 03:16:21-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Client Quit] 20120419 03:16:58-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 03:19:43-!- faryshta [~faryshta@201.137.145.143] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 03:21:24-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Client Quit] 20120419 03:21:58-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 03:30:01-!- Samual [diotecktec@c-71-195-88-69.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 03:39:13-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20120419 03:44:47-!- PolarPanda [~quassel@unaffiliated/peterporty] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20120419 03:45:14-!- PolarPanda [~quassel@unaffiliated/peterporty] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 03:49:32-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 03:58:28-!- PolarPanda [~quassel@unaffiliated/peterporty] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20120419 04:02:37-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 04:03:10-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 04:06:15-!- Johannes13_ [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 04:07:46< Espreon> ... Why aren't "Gold carryover" and "Notes" stylized like "Victory" and "Defeat"? Yeah, I'm talking about the objectives dialog. 20120419 04:09:08-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has quit [Quit: BBIAB->] 20120419 04:10:09-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20120419 04:11:52< shadowm> But they are. 20120419 04:12:06< Espreon> ... No, they're not. 20120419 04:12:08< shadowm> Oh wait, you mean... okay. 20120419 04:12:17< Espreon> Heh... 20120419 04:12:34< shadowm> Espreon: I'll give you the answer in a more appropriate plac. 20120419 04:15:53-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-149.coburn.residences.colby.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20120419 04:33:19-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20120419 04:33:32-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 04:37:35-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db260d6.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 04:40:57-!- Dokem [8176d7ac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.118.215.172] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 04:40:59-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db2af0f.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20120419 04:41:28< Dokem> My project proposal doesn't seem to be listed on the wiki. 20120419 04:41:31-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20120419 04:41:31< Dokem> is this a problem? 20120419 04:43:22< Espreon> It would be... in my book. 20120419 04:43:37< Espreon> Listed where exactly? 20120419 04:43:38-!- Gambit [~gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20120419 04:44:29< Espreon> loonycyborg: Are you busy right now? It'd be nice if you could test something for me on Windows. 20120419 04:49:52-!- knotwork_ [~markm@142.177.235.162] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 04:49:52-!- knotwork_ [~markm@142.177.235.162] has quit [Changing host] 20120419 04:49:52-!- knotwork_ [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 04:53:07-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 04:53:35-!- knotwork [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20120419 04:53:39-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 05:13:42< Espreon> loonycyborg: Eh, forget about it. 20120419 05:17:09-!- Johannes13_ [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20120419 05:17:36-!- matthiaskrgr [matthiaskr@184.171.255.77] has quit [Quit: GeekBouncer - http://geekbouncer.co.uk] 20120419 05:17:49< shadowm> loonycyborg: out of curiosity, did you change the SDL version shipped with the official windows build between 1.10.1 and 1.10.2? 20120419 05:21:16-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 05:22:00-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 05:27:16-!- Alarantalara [~Adium@CPEc0c1c09e8055-CM00252eac6d62.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 05:32:47-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 05:33:20-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 05:33:58-!- Bedwyr [8681cb1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.129.203.28] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 05:35:36-!- Bedwyr [8681cb1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.129.203.28] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20120419 05:40:26-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20120419 05:41:47-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 05:44:38-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 05:45:12-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 05:46:42-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-171-183.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 06:02:19-!- oldtopman [~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman] has quit [Quit: oldtopman has left the house] 20120419 06:22:50-!- matthiaskrgr [matthiaskr@184.171.255.77] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 06:25:59-!- avrilfanomar [~omar@91.202.129.132] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20120419 06:27:32-!- bwrsandman [~sandy@216.252.75.153] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20120419 06:28:37-!- csarmi_home [csarmi@94-21-124-50.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 20120419 06:31:06-!- khoover [~crazy1010@bas5-unionville55-1177775332.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20120419 06:34:00-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 06:34:34-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 06:44:14-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 06:44:48-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 06:46:05-!- Samual [diotecktec@c-71-195-88-69.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20120419 06:48:35-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 06:48:37-!- Dokem [8176d7ac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.118.215.172] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20120419 06:58:30-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 06:59:04-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 07:01:29-!- trademark_ [~trademark@mon69-1-82-67-23-185.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 07:06:43-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20120419 07:08:28-!- Samual [diotecktec@c-71-195-88-69.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 07:12:05-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 07:12:38-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 07:20:13-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-64.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 07:49:49-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: Wesnoth accepted in GSoC 2012 | http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SummerOfCodeIdeas | 171 bugs, 329 feature requests, 17 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! 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20:49:02-!- hankerspace [~quassel@ip-10.net-81-220-251.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 20:49:24< hankerspace> Hi 20120419 20:50:19< hankerspace> Have you seen my last patch update mordante ? 20120419 20:51:25-!- neXyon [~neXyon@84-119-56-54.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: bye] 20120419 20:54:02-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-121-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 20:54:33-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-121-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 20:55:17-!- trademark_ [~trademark@mon69-1-82-67-23-185.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20120419 20:58:15< mordante> hankerspace, no will have a look 20120419 20:58:47-!- trademark_ [~trademark@mon69-1-82-67-23-185.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 21:01:37< mordante> hankerspace, good to see you found lexical_cast_default, I hoped you would 20120419 21:02:12< mordante> did you also try to cast to an unsigned and using a negative value? 20120419 21:02:22-!- s951 [~s951@cpc31-cmbg15-2-0-cust850.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 21:04:19-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-121-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 21:04:51< hankerspace> Yes, if i use an in template and "0" in 2nd argument, a negative value is still negative. So i use this solution. 20120419 21:04:52-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-121-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 21:05:21< mordante> ok 20120419 21:05:36-!- avrilfanomar [~omar@91.202.129.135] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 21:06:16< mordante> I can't compile at this box, so will test it tomorrow, but it looks promising 20120419 21:10:02< mordante> I'm off now night 20120419 21:11:12< hankerspace> ok goobdye 20120419 21:11:31-!- mordante [~mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20120419 21:16:17-!- avrilfanomar [~omar@91.202.129.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20120419 21:17:28-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-121-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 21:18:02-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-121-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 21:22:05-!- neph [~neph@b0fa3f89.bb.sky.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 21:30:47-!- avrilfanomar [~omar@91.202.129.162] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 21:31:39-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 21:35:13-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-121-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 21:35:46-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-121-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 21:38:32-!- faryshta [~faryshta@201.137.145.143] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20120419 21:48:28-!- Upthorn [~ogmar@108-85-91-228.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20120419 21:52:13-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl4E5CD9C2.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20120419 21:53:39-!- faryshta [~faryshta@189.242.188.61] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 22:04:37-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20120419 22:04:54-!- khoover [~crazy1010@bas5-unionville55-1177775332.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 22:05:18-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 22:05:18-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host] 20120419 22:05:18-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 22:08:33-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Client Quit] 20120419 22:08:40-!- avrilfanomar [~omar@91.202.129.162] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20120419 22:13:28< shadowm> wesbot: seen jamit 20120419 22:13:28< wesbot> shadowm: The person with the nick jamit last spoke 5d 22h ago. 3d 20h ago person left: 20120419 22:13:37< bloodycoin> boucman, around? 20120419 22:14:09< boucman> sure 20120419 22:14:11< boucman> what's up ? 20120419 22:15:02-!- Upth [~ogmar@69.62.144.56] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 22:15:02-!- Upth is now known as Upthorn 20120419 22:15:23< bloodycoin> Sorry, I totally missed your feedback ^^' So now I am wonderring if I should write an answers to your questions or just discuss them here 20120419 22:15:59-!- Ayne [~Ayne@cpc2-sgyl34-2-0-cust493.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 22:16:28-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-121-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 22:16:36< boucman> might as well discuss theme here :) 20120419 22:17:02< bloodycoin> Greats, that's what I prefer too :) 20120419 22:17:12-!- trademark_ [~trademark@mon69-1-82-67-23-185.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20120419 22:17:13-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-121-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 22:18:05< shadowm> come on, people, fixed bugs that never affected a released version are to be closed immediately 20120419 22:18:28< shadowm> I also seem to be closing bugs fixed in 1.10 before 1.10.2 for some reason 20120419 22:18:36< bloodycoin> Ok, first, I thought about letting units do the invalidation for particle effects mainly because I wanted to avoid excessive invalidations off screen and is_the_hex_on_screen schecking 20120419 22:18:47< shadowm> when this should have been done by someone else 20120419 22:20:05< bloodycoin> And yes, it also doesn't work if you want to have some effects that are not associated with unit 20120419 22:20:51-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 22:20:51-!- stikonas [~gentoo@ctv-213-164-114-240.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host] 20120419 22:20:51-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 22:21:55< boucman> ok 20120419 22:23:21-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Client Quit] 20120419 22:23:37< bloodycoin> Although, letting for the particle_engine_ itself to invalidate hexes itself is also possible, in fact I would still be forced to do it, for unit-independent effects. 20120419 22:24:43< bloodycoin> Hm.... so, yea.. Leaving every effect in same structure makes sense.. 20120419 22:25:24< CIA-69> shadowmaster * r53947 /branches/1.10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 20120419 22:25:24< CIA-69> Fixed bug #19531: scroll to reinforcement units in HttT - Blackwater Port 20120419 22:25:24< CIA-69> (Backported from trunk, r53669.) 20120419 22:25:25< boucman> ok, I understand your reasoning now... 20120419 22:25:45< boucman> you would still need some form of feedback for recursive invalidation, though 20120419 22:26:19< boucman> unit invalidates hex => paricle will need to be redrawn, but particle overlaps multiple hex => particle must invalidate other hex 20120419 22:26:34< boucman> (and units are not the only thing that can invalidate hexes, but you get the idea) 20120419 22:29:35< bloodycoin> Hmm... but I thought, it's not such a big problem, because invalidated for the turn are stored in a set. But I see your point now 20120419 22:30:16< bloodycoin> :s/but/ 20120419 22:31:27< boucman> bloodycoin: they are, but that's for a different reason 20120419 22:32:03< boucman> suppose a unit is removed between two redraws, we need to redraw its hex, but the unit is not here anymore to tell us where it is, thus the storing 20120419 22:32:15< boucman> that wouldn't solve the problem I solved with the recursion above 20120419 22:32:56< shadowm> bloodycoin: was this fixed in trunk only, or also in 1.10? https://gna.org/bugs/?19486 20120419 22:33:29< shadowm> (took me a while to find the correct commit since it isn't mentioned in the issue at all) 20120419 22:33:59< bloodycoin> shadowm: in trunk only 20120419 22:34:33< shadowm> judging by the report, the bug can also be reproduced in 1.10, though? 20120419 22:34:49< bloodycoin> shadowm: there are actually two commits for that issue, one - patch from me, committed by boucman and another committed by me 20120419 22:36:13< shadowm> and is it possible to backport those to 1.10? 20120419 22:37:17< bloodycoin> Not sure, I haven't tried, but I don't think there would be any problems 20120419 22:38:08< shadowm> I am getting worried that people seem to be neglecting 1.10 :( 20120419 22:38:36< Crendgrim> .. and that when 1.11 didn't even have a release yet. 20120419 22:40:52< shadowm> I don't seem able to reproduce on 1.10 atm, but the report originally said 1.10 20120419 22:41:07-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-121-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 22:41:30< shadowm> and I can't locate any relevant commits (which isn't helped by the lack of a commit message convention) 20120419 22:41:44-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-121-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 22:42:12< bloodycoin> boucman: as for expansion on lua side, it's true I want to avoid it due to performance reasons.... 20120419 22:43:02< shadowm> boucman: did you backport this maybe? 20120419 22:43:18< boucman> bloodycoin: it some think that would be needed at some point 20120419 22:43:23< boucman> emphasis on "at some point" 20120419 22:43:24-!- hankerspace [~quassel@ip-10.net-81-220-251.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20120419 22:43:37< boucman> it's a pretty separate feature, so we should prepare for it but no emergency 20120419 22:44:00< boucman> shadowm: no I don't think I did, sorry 20120419 22:44:49< bloodycoin> Currently [particles] block that I imagine for custom effects would have: effect="custom" and additionally field movement_formula="string of position change formula" 20120419 22:45:05< shadowm> ah, never mind, I am not supposed to perform an action, just move the mouse around 20120419 22:45:27< shadowm> bloodycoin: would it be possible for you to look into backporting this? 20120419 22:45:35< bloodycoin> shadowm: take fire dragon, it ver well seem with it 20120419 22:46:11< bloodycoin> shadowm: I have never done it before, but I could try... 20120419 22:48:00< bloodycoin> boucman: But I really don't like this, because on every step, formula would have to parsed and evaluated anew, also there is issue (I think) of how to store calculated values back to the particle... 20120419 22:48:02< shadowm> alarantalara: this only ever affected trunk, right? https://gna.org/bugs/?19614 20120419 22:48:17< boucman> bloodycoin: I think as a first go we shouldn't bother with custom, but when we do, reusing lua would be faster than writing a parser 20120419 22:48:19< shadowm> or Espreon 20120419 22:49:17< bloodycoin> because with predefined values, I can simply pass particle reference and let the movement function play with particle however it wants.. 20120419 22:50:09< shadowm> Okay, I closed all the Fixed bugs except for #19614 that were either fixed in 1.10.1 or 1.10.2 or never affected a released version. 20120419 22:50:14< shadowm> Ivanovic: ^ 20120419 22:50:29< bloodycoin> And depending on lua would force me to strictly define what I want returned ( though it's good in it's own way) 20120419 22:50:34< boucman> bloodycoin: IIUC "string of position change formula" would be a list of X,Y ? 20120419 22:51:49< bloodycoin> no, I imagine it like: "x=x+5*speed; y=y+3" 20120419 22:52:34< bloodycoin> And then letting lua to eval it taking x, y and speed info from particle structure 20120419 22:54:04< boucman> I would have imagined it as "x=5*t,y=3*t" where t is number of milisecons since start of particle 20120419 22:54:15< boucman> closer to math formula, easier to implement, 20120419 22:54:20< boucman> but not relevant for this discussion 20120419 22:55:25-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20120419 22:55:31< boucman> I'm not sure what your problem with lua is, could you try reesplaining ? 20120419 22:55:32< bloodycoin> right, totally forgot about 'dt', I am just arbitrary numbers for example now, of course dt is a must 20120419 22:55:34< shadowm> hm, I had no idea we now could consider bug A a duplicate of B (where A < B) 20120419 22:55:39< shadowm> this is a little silly 20120419 22:56:21< boucman> it depends in what order we discover the duplicate :P 20120419 22:56:25-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-121-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 22:56:27< bloodycoin> shadowm: That but was introduced on r53746 20120419 22:56:36< bloodycoin> I did bisection 20120419 22:56:39< boucman> I tend to mark A duplicate of B where B is the bug which is most worked on 20120419 22:56:42< shadowm> which one? #19614? 20120419 22:56:51< bloodycoin> yep 20120419 22:57:12< shadowm> okay, then I'll close it 20120419 22:57:26-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-121-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 22:57:37-!- s951 [~s951@cpc31-cmbg15-2-0-cust850.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20120419 22:58:11< shadowm> okay, I'm done with bug tracker cleanup for today 20120419 23:00:21< bloodycoin> boucman: I mean, if you store movement formula as a string, you need to lua to interpret it as an expression on every turn, wouldn't that be computationally expensive? 20120419 23:01:33< boucman> bloodycoin: i'm not expert at lua and lua integration, but it's likely there are some caching mecanisms for that sort of stuff... 20120419 23:01:43< boucman> i'd say try and see, don't worry about that at this point 20120419 23:02:47< bloodycoin> also, what if I want to change not only x and Y, but velx and vely too. And maybe some other param... Then getting values back to particle structure is getting trickier, unless you readout all possible values for structure, which is not very nice 20120419 23:03:29-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@ppp59-167-222-56.qld.adsl.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20120419 23:04:43< bloodycoin> If I remember correctly lua doesn't cache annonymous functions.. 20120419 23:05:35< bloodycoin> Yes, that's the main reason I prefer not to do it during GSoC time... Scale looks a bit... unclear... 20120419 23:05:54< bloodycoin> I mean custom movement functions 20120419 23:09:39< bloodycoin> Now I am getting really confused if I should let particle_engine_ do all the particle invalidations or not 20120419 23:12:07< bloodycoin> boucman: That reminds me... I will have to integrate particle engine to game saves too, right? 20120419 23:15:33-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20120419 23:15:45< boucman> I disagree about velx vely, it's better to have a generic x,y=f(t) where f could be C or lua code, and could be parameterized (by a separate velx vely y for example) but you should not try to put any physics in the particle engine 20120419 23:16:15-!- Crendgrim [~crend@77-22-112-72-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: ...] 20120419 23:16:31< boucman> as for saving... you might need to save the WML for specific particle, but I don't think you would need to save the state of the particles themselves (unless there is a use case I don't think of... 20120419 23:16:44-!- Alarantalara [~Adium@CPEc0c1c09e8055-CM00252eac6d62.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 23:18:14< bloodycoin> No, I don't need state of particles, I only need to save what effects are active and what to are they associated (unit, terrain) 20120419 23:18:42< boucman> hmm, not sure for units... 20120419 23:19:07< boucman> when a game is loaded, the unit's animation is restarted, and that would recreate the particle, so no need to save it 20120419 23:19:15< boucman> that's true for terrain too 20120419 23:19:32< boucman> you would need to save WML-event created particles, though, I guess 20120419 23:21:30< bloodycoin> hmm... ok then.. 20120419 23:23:11-!- tyrannodogg [~tyrannodo@ip-21-17.travedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 23:23:49< bloodycoin> True, physics are not worth the overhead here 20120419 23:24:11< boucman> yeah, leave it to the formula writers :P 20120419 23:25:14< boucman> oh and having a formula x,y=f(t) rather than x(t+1)=f(x(t)) is important because it handles lag much better 20120419 23:28:07< bloodycoin> You mean calculating x and t simultaneously, or that it should use absolute time rather than delta time? 20120419 23:28:28< boucman> it should use abolute time rather than time since last redraw 20120419 23:28:55< boucman> (well, more specifically time since start of particle rather than time of redraw) 20120419 23:30:06< boucman> in other word the engine to fomula message should be "draw the particle at time T" and not "the particle has moved for T time" 20120419 23:31:31< bloodycoin> yes, of course, I couldn't use sin, cos and similar otherwise 20120419 23:32:47-!- Gambit [~gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120419 23:34:45-!- Samual [diotecktec@c-71-195-88-69.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: The person who said nothing is impossible obviously never tried to slam a revolving door.] 20120419 23:39:00-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-121-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120419 23:39:32-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-121-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev --- Log closed Fri Apr 20 00:00:53 2012