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20120422 01:23:11< wesbot> Alarantalara: The person with the nick timotei last spoke 9d 2h ago.  1d 2h ago they left with the message: Read error: Connection reset by peer
20120422 01:25:12< Alarantalara> Anonymissimus asked me to pass on the message that his computer broke, so he wanted to see if anyone could take over maintaining the MSVC until he can get it repaired
20120422 01:25:46< Alarantalara> since timotei is not around (who he asked me to contact here), is there anyone else who can cover for him?
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20120422 01:44:29< CIA-69> jamit * r53954 /trunk/src/actions.cpp: 
20120422 01:44:29< CIA-69> Modifications to clear_shroud_unit() (a file-private function).
20120422 01:44:29< CIA-69> Adding a unit parameter eliminates the need for a couple of temp units and movement resetters.
20120422 01:44:29< CIA-69> Also optimizing some code.
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20120422 02:25:00< CIA-69> jamit * r53955 /trunk/src/actions.cpp: Update some comments since we no longer refog.
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20120422 04:54:41< gabba> Wesnoth complains about not finding vccomp90.dll when built with VS2008 in release mode. Anybody has an idea of what's the problem? Google searches seem to suggest it's an openMP library which is supposed to be included in my edition of VS 2008 Pro.
20120422 04:56:43< CIA-69> alarantalara * r53956 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/06b_In_the_Domain_of_Dwarves.cfg: First pass at refactoring UtBS scenario 6b
20120422 05:27:51< gabba> Crab_, anonymissimus: Found the problem, looks like the dev package I downloaded which is supposed to have all libraries wesnoth needs has vcomp90d.dll (i.e. the debug version) but not vcomp90.dll
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20120422 06:29:01< CIA-69> gabba * r53957 /trunk/src/whiteboard/ (manager.cpp manager.hpp): 
20120422 06:29:01< CIA-69> Fix units planning attack-moves not being ghosted at all. Also store the list of
20120422 06:29:01< CIA-69> units that are ghosted in wb::manager::pre_draw() to be able to unghost them
20120422 06:29:01< CIA-69> afterwards even if they lose their planned action before
20120422 06:29:01< CIA-69> wb::manager::post_draw() gets called.
20120422 06:29:02< CIA-69> Improves the fix for bug #19619, and fixes bug #19621.
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20120422 06:37:55< Espreon> gabba: ... What hast thou done!
20120422 06:38:09< Espreon> It is... broken!
20120422 06:38:16< gabba> really now
20120422 06:38:35< Espreon> gabba: http://pastebin.com/s5xRHRPV
20120422 06:38:37< Espreon> Yeah, really!
20120422 06:39:00< gabba> Espreon: it sure compiles and run here on Windows, this system of heathens
20120422 06:39:08< gabba> what's the problem?
20120422 06:39:15< Espreon> It doesn't compile!
20120422 06:39:19< gabba> ^looking
20120422 06:40:10< Espreon> Why is it that something explodes, it always bitches about these font variables or whatever?
20120422 06:40:16< Espreon> *that when something
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20120422 06:43:07< gabba> Espreon: I wonder about that too, I guess that code is included all over the place and when something breaks before it, it breaks too
20120422 06:43:32< gabba> Anyways, working on satisfying gcc... I was copying that set too much anyways
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20120422 07:04:20< CIA-69> gabba * r53958 /trunk/src/whiteboard/manager.cpp: Remove an admittedly weird use of std::set::swap() which was causing gcc to freak out.
20120422 07:04:43< gabba> Espreon: try this, the almighty gcc should be satisfied
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20120422 07:10:15< Espreon> All right.
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20120422 07:15:27< Espreon> gabba: And it works. Huzzah.
20120422 07:15:35< gabba> Huzzah
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20120422 10:46:49< CIA-69> elvish_hunter * r53959 /trunk/ (20 files in 17 dirs): Added IS_LAST_SCENARIO to all final campaign scenarios
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20120422 11:04:30< Artemius23> My proposal is submitted to Google, however I cannot see my proposal in "Submitted to Google " list. Is that a problem ?
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20120422 11:08:54< boucman> Artemius23: let me check...
20120422 11:09:16< Artemius23> boucman : Thank you..
20120422 11:09:25< boucman> what's your name ?
20120422 11:12:40< Artemius23> Artemius23 
20120422 11:12:55< CIA-69> elvish_hunter * r53960 /trunk/ (7 files in 5 dirs): Pushed LOOT macro from LoW, TRoW and THoT in core, file utils.cfg. wmlindent also reindented other two macro files
20120422 11:13:35< boucman> Artemius23: I don't see you in our applicants, sorry
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20120422 11:13:53< Ivanovic> moin
20120422 11:14:31< Artemius23> how can it be possible ? I submitted my proposal even, I had a conversation with Crab_ in my proposal page : Please check it : https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2012/yigit23/1
20120422 11:15:14< boucman> oh
20120422 11:15:23< boucman> I was looking for someone named Artemius23
20120422 11:15:48< boucman> yes, we have your proposal
20120422 11:16:05< Artemius23> Oh, thank you
20120422 11:16:58< Artemius23> I worried when I couldn' t see my name in the list, there is no problem isn't it ?
20120422 11:17:12< boucman> everything seems fine afaict
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20120422 11:22:41< Artemius23> It's good. I am waiting for tomorrow :)
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20120422 13:43:22< faryshta> jabba Crab_ I updated the patch I sent. I managed to compile it.
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20120422 14:08:17< faryshta> http://ubuntuone.com/7Ser8xTbs4vO0XrmiL0dvF
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20120422 15:08:00< mordante> servus
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20120422 15:34:05< CIA-69> ivanovic * r53962 /trunk/po/wesnoth-dw/fr.po: updated French translation
20120422 15:34:07< CIA-69> ivanovic * r53961 /branches/1.10/ (changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth-dw/fr.po): updated French translation
20120422 15:34:31< fendrin> hi mordante
20120422 15:35:05< mordante> hi fendrin 
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20120422 15:37:07< fendrin> boucman: You know about unit animation and such stuff? I have a set of images for a faction which features only the north facing image. Can I tell Wesnoth to flip it?
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20120422 15:44:33< Alarantalara> fendrin: you should be able to append ~FL to flip the image
20120422 15:45:09< vultraz> fendrin: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/ImagePathFunctionWML#Flip_Function
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20120422 15:46:53< CIA-69> mordante * r53963 /trunk/src/loadscreen.cpp: Replace come 0 pointers with NULL.
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20120422 15:49:30< fendrin> Alarantalara, vultraz: Thanks, but there is no rotate, is there?
20120422 15:50:12< Alarantalara> not yet
20120422 15:51:21< Alarantalara> a horizontal + vertical flip is equivalent to a 180° rotation though if that's all you need
20120422 15:52:21< CIA-69> mordante * r53964 /trunk/src/ (loadscreen.cpp loadscreen.hpp): 
20120422 15:52:22< CIA-69> Pass parameter by const value instead of const ref.
20120422 15:52:22< CIA-69> It makes no sense for an integer value. (Also gcc's 4.8 snapshot was confused
20120422 15:52:22< CIA-69> and thought it was a 0 pointer.)
20120422 15:52:26< CIA-69> mordante * r53965 /trunk/src/marked-up_text.cpp: 
20120422 15:52:26< CIA-69> Remove duplicate condition in a logical or.
20120422 15:52:26< CIA-69> Issue found by cppcheck.
20120422 15:52:31< CIA-69> mordante * r53966 /trunk/src/editor/editor_display.hpp: 
20120422 15:52:31< CIA-69> Pass parameter by const ref instead of const value.
20120422 15:52:31< CIA-69> Issue found by cppcheck.
20120422 15:54:14< vultraz> fendrin: BTW, was the blue arrow ok?
20120422 15:55:07< fendrin> vultraz: I didn't receive the blue version.
20120422 15:55:25< vultraz> huh...
20120422 15:55:28< CIA-69> mordante * r53967 /trunk/ (changelog src/whiteboard/visitor.hpp): 
20120422 15:55:28< CIA-69> Partly fixed segfaults on window resize
20120422 15:55:28< CIA-69> This partly fixes bug #19626 and applies patch #3248.
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20120422 15:56:40< vultraz> fendrin: ohthat'swhy..... replying to a pm you sent send teh reply to yourself :P
20120422 15:56:58< vultraz> sends* the*
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20120422 15:57:34< vultraz> fendrin: http://imagebin.org/209198
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20120422 15:58:58< fendrin> Alarantalara, vultraz: Okay, but to what argument shall I apply the flipped image path?
20120422 15:59:38< vultraz> image.png~FL(arg)
20120422 15:59:44< vultraz> if that's what you mean
20120422 15:59:53< fendrin> image=normal.png
20120422 16:00:15< fendrin> image_facing_south=normal.png~FL(arg) ?
20120422 16:00:20< Alarantalara> -> image=normal.png~FL()
20120422 16:00:34< vultraz> yeah
20120422 16:01:05< fendrin> Won't that only make facing every unit to the south?
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20120422 16:02:22< vultraz> um.....no....I think it would only make all south facing variations be a flip of image.png
20120422 16:03:14< fendrin> How should it do that?
20120422 16:03:31< fendrin> Note that I invented the image_facing_south= attribute.
20120422 16:03:45< vultraz> hum
20120422 16:03:53< vultraz> then what are you gonna use this for
20120422 16:03:55< Alarantalara> {STANDING_ANIM_DIRECTIONAL SE_IMAGE NE_IMAGE}
20120422 16:03:58< Alarantalara> for units
20120422 16:04:14< Alarantalara> and they get fancier
20120422 16:04:40< Alarantalara> basicall, image is a base image for no animation
20120422 16:05:06< Alarantalara> but you'll define each facing as an animation
20120422 16:05:19< Alarantalara> using [if] direction=
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20120422 16:05:35< Alarantalara> then a single frame with image=whatever.png
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20120422 16:07:32< fendrin> I need a second set of images to support all directions with the current engine, right?
20120422 16:08:31< Alarantalara> Unless your images are top down, yes.
20120422 16:08:39< fendrin> They are
20120422 16:08:43< fendrin> flat 
20120422 16:08:46 * vultraz wonders why units are never set to face north or south.... everyone used sw nw se ne
20120422 16:08:52< vultraz> uses*
20120422 16:09:18< Alarantalara> n and s are the same as ne and se unless there is a specific animation for them
20120422 16:10:56< fendrin> hmmm
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20120422 16:44:24< Alarantalara> mordante: regarding the gui2 suggestions on the forum, my impression is that the poster implemented them into a fork of the engine and is suggesting you might want to port them back
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20120422 16:50:50< mordante> Alarantalara, I'm not entirely sure what the poster did, but his/her english doesn't seem too strong
20120422 16:53:30< Alarantalara> mordante: I agree - there is a link to the engine source here with a list of some changes made: http://www.freeors.com/en/
20120422 16:54:08< Alarantalara> though I haven't read through it to see if all of those first five suggestions are actually implemented
20120422 16:57:39< mordante> trying to download the source at the moment
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20120422 17:14:50< neph_> mordante, I heard you are maintaining wesnoth for pandora. Could you tell me more about that?
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20120422 19:42:56< boucman> fendrin: back
20120422 19:43:19< boucman> i'm not sure what you mean by "facing north" 
20120422 19:43:38< boucman> if it's really facing north (not north-east) makes no sense to flip it
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20120422 19:59:19< shadowm> I imagine he meant to change their facing, not flip them literally.
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20120422 20:02:13< shadowm> (That would be the only thing that would make sense vertically-speaking.)
20120422 20:04:13< boucman> yeah, that's why I assume NE not NE
20120422 20:04:15< boucman> not ?N
20120422 20:04:17< boucman> argh
20120422 20:04:18< boucman> not N
20120422 20:04:39< boucman> but it's supposet to work automagically, (if not it's easy to specify
20120422 20:05:34< shadowm> Most units can't actually face north-anything because they only have south-facing frames, anyway.
20120422 20:06:59< shadowm> Goblins and saurians being notable exceptions.
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20120422 20:44:39< gabba> Great, looks like gna.org is down just when I need it the most
20120422 20:45:04< gabba> or maybe just slow *crosses fingers*
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20120422 20:57:04< matthiaskrgr> mmh, so svn repo is currently unavailable?
20120422 20:58:48< gabba> yeah, pretty much
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20120422 21:06:28< CIA-69> jamit * r53968 /trunk/src/actions.cpp: Don't count clearing border hexes of fog/shroud as "really" clearing anything.
20120422 21:12:51< gabba> looks like it's back online now
20120422 21:14:23< fendrin_> hi boucman
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20120422 21:21:27< boucman> fendrin_: hey
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20120422 21:23:13< fendrin_> boucman: http://terdon.asc-hq.org/unitguide/images/vehicles/mk4v_archimedes.png
20120422 21:23:32< boucman> oh, top view...
20120422 21:23:35< fendrin_> boucman: I managed te get it flipped for the southview. 
20120422 21:23:58< boucman> ok, you can flip n/s but I don't remember the specifics, it's in the AnimationWML wiki
20120422 21:24:00< boucman> let me check
20120422 21:24:14< fendrin_> boucman: Wait, n/s flip is already working.
20120422 21:24:26< boucman> ok, so what do you want, e/w ?
20120422 21:24:52< fendrin_> boucman: Yeah, I think the game I am stealing the images from does it by simple rotation.
20120422 21:25:18< boucman> we have an auto_hflip and auto_vflip parameters, do they fit your need ?
20120422 21:25:33< boucman> or you want a 90° rotation (not a flip)
20120422 21:26:09< fendrin_> Well, I guess the rotation is not exactly 90°, or is it?
20120422 21:26:14< jamit> A 60-rotation?
20120422 21:26:28< boucman> fendrin_: the anim engine can't do rotation, only flipping
20120422 21:26:39< fendrin_> And sdl?
20120422 21:26:46< boucman> I would advise doing the rot using gimp 
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20120422 21:27:04< boucman> once you have a 30° rot, you can create all the missing ones by flipping
20120422 21:27:09< boucman> fendrin_: I don't know
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20120422 21:27:38< shadowm> No, SDL can't do any such operations. It's a very low-level library.
20120422 21:28:04< fendrin_> boucman: Yeah, scripting the gimp to rotate them was my next plan.
20120422 21:28:29< boucman> :)
20120422 21:28:30< shadowm> And so far there hasn't been a need to implement rotation transforms in Wesnoth.
20120422 21:28:46< shadowm> That said, if you do implement such I'd welcome that and I'd gladly implement a matching image path function.
20120422 21:28:55< boucman> fendrin_: if you have many to do, I would advise using ImageMagick
20120422 21:29:00< boucman> easier to do from the CLI
20120422 21:29:16< fendrin_> boucman: Can you give me a fitting line?
20120422 21:29:49< boucman> fendrin_: not from memory
20120422 21:29:59< boucman> "man transform" IIRC
20120422 21:30:07< jamit> fendrin_: You might wnat to see artisticdude's comment at the top of http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Rotate_Pixel_Art_Without_Blurring
20120422 21:30:38< jamit> Might be related to why the game engine doesn't currently rotate graphics.
20120422 21:31:28< shadowm> Nah, it doesn't because there's really no need to do so in mainline.
20120422 21:31:55< fendrin_> I don't know.
20120422 21:32:03< shadowm> There's a lot of image transforms I'd implement  if I actually had the skills.
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20120422 21:33:48< jamit> I was thinking that there is no need to do so in mainline because the art department prefers to create new images instead of rotating existing ones. ;)
20120422 21:34:46< jamit> I guess that would be several layers of cause-and-effect to come up with my "might be related".
20120422 21:35:16< shadowm> Rotations by multiples of 90 degrees could be very useful for other purposes, but obviously rotating unit baseframes is just useless.
20120422 21:35:36< shadowm> At least for anyone with a degree (he he) of respect for our artists' work.
20120422 21:35:36< jamit> Anyway, have to run. Back to the peanut gallery for me.
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20120422 21:43:05< fendrin_> boucman: Works nice, the rotation is fine. But it fills new background with white instead of transparent.
20120422 21:43:15< boucman> hmm
20120422 21:43:25< boucman> that's weird, no related options ?
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20120422 21:47:59< fendrin_> boucman: -background color
20120422 21:48:02< fendrin_> ?
20120422 21:49:23< fendrin_> -background transparent did it.
20120422 21:50:38< mordante> neph_, I'm not really maintaining the Pandora, I just do some optimisations
20120422 21:50:49< mordante> Ivanovic packages for the Pandora
20120422 21:51:39< boucman> cool :)
20120422 21:52:11< mordante> hankerspace, I had a look at your patch and it seems there some old stuff still left in there, the first few hunks
20120422 21:55:32< hankerspace> Hi mordante i'll verify it
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20120422 22:15:57< Ivanovic> mordante: but now that you got the crosscompiler and stuff all working in theory you could do the packaging as well
20120422 22:15:58< Ivanovic> ;)
20120422 22:20:03< fendrin_> mordante: Flipping horizontally is not working.
20120422 22:20:51< fendrin_> mordante: Do you know about the code?
20120422 22:27:55< mordante> Ivanovic, luckily I don't know how to make pnd files :-P
20120422 22:28:04< mordante> fendrin_, not really
20120422 22:28:08< Ivanovic> oh, i could tell you...
20120422 22:28:39< mordante> I could forget ...
20120422 22:29:46< Ivanovic> hehehe
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20120422 22:31:07< Ivanovic> neph_: the pandora is basically some fun gadget
20120422 22:31:40< neph_> Ivanovic, does it really last for 10 hours on battery time?
20120422 22:31:52< Ivanovic> depending on what you do even significantly more
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20120422 22:32:41< neph_> Ivanovic, and, if I want to play them old games on emulators, where would I get the roms the legal way?
20120422 22:32:51< Ivanovic> with medium brightness using the boxes at mid audio level i was able to play snes emulation (so full load on CPU) for 9h getting down from 90% to 10%
20120422 22:34:10< Ivanovic> hmm, legally is problematic for many roms
20120422 22:34:17< Ivanovic> ripping them yourself is legal, sure
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20120422 22:34:28< Ivanovic> but this is difficult for many cartridges due to their format
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20120422 22:34:47< Ivanovic> though there are some tools like the retrode to allow reading of cartridges
20120422 22:35:05< Ivanovic> the easy solution for non "pc like" systems though is to just download them from the net
20120422 22:35:12< neph_> I see
20120422 22:35:23< Ivanovic> especially since most of the companies are by now dead
20120422 22:35:58< neph_> does its display open up till 180 degrees?
20120422 22:36:00< Ivanovic> and they don't want to sell you the games anymore either
20120422 22:36:10< Ivanovic> yes, in fact is has no middle position
20120422 22:36:28< Ivanovic> you might be lucky that it holds somewhere in the middle for a while, but the only "real" position is 180°
20120422 22:36:51< neph_> the fact, that it has such a good battery, a decent display and the analog controllers makes it really tempting to buy one
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20120422 22:37:32< Ivanovic> if you put just a tiny load on the pandora it holds for a long time
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20120422 22:38:00< Ivanovic> eg (with the old kernel which was bad in regards of power saving!) i was able to use it for reading texts for more than 18h
20120422 22:38:03< neph_> I am really bored at lectures, I thought a smartphone would solve that, but playing games on touchscreen is impossibl
20120422 22:38:39< Ivanovic> :)
20120422 22:38:49< Ivanovic> the gaming controls, especially the dpad, are really great!
20120422 22:39:10< Ivanovic> it is about the best dpad i ever had under my thumb
20120422 22:40:27< mordante> I'm off night
20120422 22:40:33< Ivanovic> in regards to emulation: of course PSX emulation is easily possible
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20120422 22:40:47< Ivanovic> and the emulator is working full speed at default clocks of 600MHz
20120422 22:42:05< neph_> psx = sony play station, right?
20120422 22:42:10< Ivanovic> jepp
20120422 22:42:20< neph_> so it can even run games, like tekken3?
20120422 22:42:34< Ivanovic> never tried it but should work if it is PS1
20120422 22:42:39< neph_> amazing
20120422 22:42:49< Ivanovic> that is: of course it also runs wesnoth and frogatto
20120422 22:46:00< Espreon> If it can emulate FF VIII well, then it sounds good to me.
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20120422 22:48:21< Ivanovic> Espreon: i tested FF7 on it and got the PSX images for FF8 on it, too
20120422 22:48:28< Ivanovic> haven't tested how well it runs though
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20120422 22:49:04< fendrin_> What could be wrong with it? http://pastebin.com/LV6aABF3
20120422 22:49:12< Espreon> Ivanovic: Well, if you try it and it runs nicely, please tell me.
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20120422 22:52:01< Ivanovic> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArSWWAWRjErldHZVZlFxY0tBVnRRNXM5U3ZqWFNuN0E&hl=en#gid=0
20120422 22:52:15< Ivanovic> looks like FF8 should work
20120422 22:52:33< Ivanovic> especially since around r10 speed was significantly improved, so it should really be perfectly fine
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20120422 22:54:15< Espreon> Ivanovic: Good. Now I just need to get my grubby little hands on one of these nice devices.
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20120422 23:08:15< hankerspace> mordante : http://pastebin.com/nBdJzvLN
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20120422 23:38:47< jamit> shadowm: You want a function that will rotate an image 90 degrees?
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20120422 23:39:41< jamit> Or perhaps get equivalent functionality by flipping an image over a diagonal?
20120422 23:39:58< shadowm> The former, but I don't currently need it.
20120422 23:40:54< shadowm> By the way, does anyone know how to forward my web browser's http traffic through SSH?
20120422 23:41:21< jamit> http://pastebin.com/PYYNV4rH <-- with four choices for one line in it.
20120422 23:41:37< jamit> Two diagonal flips, or rotate left or right.
20120422 23:41:39< shadowm> I have lost all ability to use port 80 here thanks to my amazing ISP's idea of forwarding me to a specific address (which is currently down) when I run over a monthly traffic quota.
20120422 23:41:49< shadowm> So I effectively can't use http.
20120422 23:42:30< loonycyborg> shadowm: And they filter *only* http?
20120422 23:42:41< shadowm> Yes.
20120422 23:43:02< shadowm> Otherwise shadowm_laptop would have stayed disconnected 20 minutes ago.
20120422 23:43:15< shadowm> And I wouldn't be speaking through the VPS as I'm doing right now.
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20120422 23:43:29< loonycyborg> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privoxy <- maybe try setting this up on that vps of yours :P
20120422 23:43:41< shadowm> For the love of god loonycyborg I said I can't use http.
20120422 23:43:57< shadowm> Not sure that will be legible with lynx here.
20120422 23:44:00< loonycyborg> You said port 80
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20120422 23:44:08< loonycyborg> privoxy can be on any port
20120422 23:44:12< shadowm> Also, it's not my VPS so I don't have root access.
20120422 23:44:16< loonycyborg> Like, 8080
20120422 23:44:31< jamit> shadowm: Can use use https: instead of http:?
20120422 23:44:34< shadowm> And how am I supposed to read the instructions comfortably?
20120422 23:44:46< shadowm> jamit: that doesn't work for every host and address for obvious reasons.
20120422 23:44:55< shadowm> In particular, it won't work for forums.wesnoth.org.
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20120422 23:45:11< jamit> Ah, OK, so you did at least try that.
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20120422 23:45:40< loonycyborg> Anyway, I have no idea how that redirection through ssh works..
20120422 23:45:43< shadowm> No, I haven't, now, but I know it won't work.
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20120422 23:46:07< shadowm> In particular, https://forums.wesnoth.org is equivalent to https://www.wesnoth.org given our server-side configuration.
20120422 23:46:27< shadowm> And not all sites out there support https at all.
20120422 23:47:15< jamit> Not all sites, but (before you said it wouldn't work) there was a chance it would work for whatever site you wanted to visit.
20120422 23:48:05< shadowm> I'd like a solution for the general case before giving up and forwarding just wesnoth.org, which I know how to do.
20120422 23:48:42< shadowm> Or calling my ISP, which will be far more complicated since I'm not the subscriber.
20120422 23:48:51< jamit> Can you get files from sourceforge? That is where that privoxy app is hosted.
20120422 23:49:12< jamit> (I can look up the exact file you'd need.)
20120422 23:49:46< shadowm> Depends. I don't understand what I'm supposed to do it. (i.e. VPS vs laptop)
20120422 23:50:53< shadowm> Because obviously I can do everything I could ever want in the VPS as long as it doesn't require root access.
20120422 23:51:43< shadowm> I had tried 'ssh -N -D 9696 <vps host>' before and instructing Firefox to use localhost:9696 as a proxy, but that didn't work.
20120422 23:53:03< shadowm> This happens to be a perfect example of why ISPs redirecting addresses without the user's consent should be outlawed in any sane country.
20120422 23:53:24< shadowm> And this is not a DNS redirect, no.
20120422 23:53:30< jamit> Maybe they are. Do you know any sane countries? :)
20120422 23:53:37< shadowm> I guess not.
20120422 23:53:43< shadowm> :(
20120422 23:55:38 * shadowm goes to read more about privoxy using lynx on the vps.
20120422 23:56:30< Ivanovic> heading off to bed, n8
20120422 23:57:19< shadowm> Somehow this sounds like a nuclear bomb given this fly-chasing situation.
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20120422 23:58:19< shadowm> Also, lynx is very uncomfortable to use through a high-latency ssh link.
20120422 23:59:32< shadowm> It doesn't seem to provide any protection against unauthorized clients either.
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