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20120423 01:01:55< CIA-69> gabba * r53969 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Reverted rev #53967 and commited my own fix for bug #19626
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20120423 01:18:13< CIA-69> gabba * r53970 /branches/1.10/ (17 files in 2 dirs): Backport revisions 53000-53009 (includes cleanup) and 53780 (Consolidated and improved the validation code for attack and move. Fixes bug #19613 ) from trunk.
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20120423 01:53:41< CIA-69> gabba * r53971 /branches/1.10/ (16 files in 3 dirs): 
20120423 01:53:41< CIA-69> Changed the method for fading out units that have planned moves to a somewhat safer one: I apply the "ghosted" animation right before drawing happens and remove it afterwards. Fixes bug #19619.
20120423 01:53:41< CIA-69> (Backport of this feature and all relevant bugfixes from trunk: revisions 53780-53781,53789,53850,53897,53957-53958,53967,53969)
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20120423 02:08:02< CIA-69> espreon * r53972 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/utils/dehydration-utils.cfg: Rehydrate everyone quietly upon victory; fixes bug #19655.
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20120423 02:11:59< CIA-69> espreon * r53973 /branches/1.10/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/utils/dehydration-utils.cfg: Ported r53972 to 1.10.
20120423 02:14:36< CIA-69> espreon * r53974 /branches/1.10/ (changelog players_changelog): Updated the changelogs.
20120423 02:16:19< CIA-69> espreon * r53975 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): Updated the changelogs.
20120423 02:16:27< Espreon> Silly me for not updating the changelogs earlier...
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20120423 02:47:50< CIA-69> espreon * r53976 /branches/1.10/src/resources.cpp: Added a missing include.
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20120423 04:44:25< CIA-69> gabba * r53977 /branches/1.10/src/whiteboard/ (manager.cpp validate_visitor.cpp): Fix whitespace for my recent merges.
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20120423 06:08:12< gabba> Alarantalara: for your testing, you could try running wesnoth with the command-line parameter --log-debug=whiteboard, and attaching the log to your bug report next time you experience it (under windows, it all goes into stderr.txt next to wesnoth.exe). If that slows down the game too much, --log-info=whiteboard should still give me a reasonable amount of info.
20120423 06:10:46< Alarantalara> no problem, I'll have to make sure it's the default, since I've tended to experience it while playing for fun rather than testing
20120423 06:11:36< gabba> thanks! :)
20120423 06:15:53< CIA-69> gabba * r53978 /branches/1.10/ (changelog players_changelog): Changelog entries for bugs fixed as side-effects of my recent fixes.
20120423 06:16:30< CIA-69> gabba * r53979 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): Changelog entries for bugs fixed as side-effects of my recent fixes.
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20120423 06:52:58< CIA-69> gabba * r53980 /trunk/src/whiteboard/manager.cpp: Add an assert.
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20120423 07:17:07< CIA-69> gabba * r53981 /trunk/src/whiteboard/utility.hpp: Add clear() method to my utility finalizer class.
20120423 07:19:21< CIA-69> gabba * r53982 /trunk/src/whiteboard/manager.cpp: Improve exception safety in the "execute all actions" whiteboard mechanism. May help with bug #19622.
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20120423 18:19:57< boucman> hey all
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20120423 19:46:24< fendrin_> hi boucman
20120423 19:47:09< fendrin_> boucman: I had no luck with our unit animation code. Seems the horizontal flip isn't triggered at all and not every direction is correctly team colored.
20120423 19:51:36< boucman> TC should be independant of flipping, did you check the palette of your image ?
20120423 19:52:09< boucman> as for hflip vs vflip, I think one of them needs to be set and the other is enabled by default
20120423 19:52:21< boucman> (or simpler, could you pastebin your wml somewhere ?
20120423 19:53:02< vultraz> fendrin_: horizontal flip is default
20120423 19:53:25< vultraz> as in, just "~FL()" is horiz
20120423 19:53:59< boucman> vultraz: we are not speking of image path, but of animation code and automatic flipping with the direction the unit is facing
20120423 19:54:02< boucman> but thx
20120423 19:54:18< vultraz> ah ok
20120423 20:01:27< zookeeper> unless someone broke something in the last two years or so, it's certainly possible to make top-down units which face all six directions correctly, with only two drawn facings
20120423 20:01:36< zookeeper> (i know since i've done that)
20120423 20:02:15< fendrin_> boucman: http://pastebin.com/LV6aABF3
20120423 20:04:05< zookeeper> for comparison, here's mine: http://pastebin.com/K6Lh0JRh
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20120423 20:05:19< fendrin_> zookeeper: Is it still working like expected?
20120423 20:05:41< zookeeper> no idea
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20120423 20:09:03< boucman> sorry, back
20120423 20:09:47< boucman> fendrin_: ok, so you're not doing it the way I thought at all :P
20120423 20:09:55< fendrin_> :-)
20120423 20:10:13< boucman> you're using image path and not the "auto_hflip" feature of the animation engine
20120423 20:10:17< fendrin_> But it is near to zookeeper's example :-P
20120423 20:10:26< boucman> :P
20120423 20:10:52< fendrin_> Anyway, seems like image path is broken somehow, or am I using it wrong?
20120423 20:11:35< fendrin_> While "auto_hflip" feature sounds nice.
20120423 20:12:10< fendrin_> Maybe that is why the image path is broken, everyone uses the auto thing.
20120423 20:12:55< boucman> fendrin_: not tested, but something like that should work http://pastebin.com/1WqT19qa
20120423 20:13:24< boucman> well, all of mainline does... (for hflip, vflip makes little sense for mainline units)
20120423 20:13:40< boucman> though now that I think of it, this feature might explain why your code doesn't work
20120423 20:13:49< boucman> in what direction does it not work exactly ?
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20120423 20:16:42< fendrin_> The horiz flip
20120423 20:16:52< fendrin_> is not working
20120423 20:17:13< fendrin_> thus the nw and sw directions are wrong.
20120423 20:17:24< boucman> fendrin_: ok, if you add an "auto_hflip=no" in the frame, does it solve your problem ?
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20120423 20:17:43< fendrin_> hi mordante
20120423 20:17:46< fendrin_> boucman: one minute
20120423 20:17:46< mordante> servus
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20120423 20:17:48< mordante> hi fendrin_ 
20120423 20:18:30< boucman> (unrelated: I removed the "duration" part in my example, you should not put duration when you have only one frame, this will make the engine properly use the animation as a single image instead of displaying a 100ms single image anim again and again)
20120423 20:18:50< mordante> hankerspace what's the difference with the patch you posted at GNA?
20120423 20:19:09< boucman> fendrin_: afk, tel
20120423 20:22:04< fendrin_> boucman: That fixed it, thanks. But: The team coloring is only applied at north and south, not an nw,ne,sw and se.
20120423 20:22:47< mordante> jamit what is the function diagonal_flip_or_rotate_surface supposed to do?
20120423 20:24:11< fendrin_> boucman: Ah, the imagemagic tool might have shifted the colors and thus the team coloring no longer matches.
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20120423 20:29:31< fendrin_> hmmmm, there is no -keep_my_colors
20120423 20:35:47< mordante> Ivanovic, any luck with testing Notaz SDL version without my patch?
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20120423 20:46:00< boucman> back
20120423 20:46:13< boucman> fendrin_: cool, do you want me to explain what happened ?
20120423 20:46:39< crab_> hello
20120423 20:47:26< shadowm> hi there, crab_ 
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20120423 20:48:40< Ivanovic> mordante: in fact i did not build notaz vanilla libsdl since you talked to me about it
20120423 20:48:47< Ivanovic> and i don't plan to do so today
20120423 20:49:10< Ivanovic> though are you sure that i have not already tried that?
20120423 20:49:15< mordante> Ivanovic, ok
20120423 20:49:24< Ivanovic> meaning: i *think* i tested my own build of notaz libsdl against the one with your modifications
20120423 20:49:36< Ivanovic> (not to mention the default firmware ones which of course work)
20120423 20:49:50< mordante> not that I can remember
20120423 20:50:32< mordante> yeah just want to make sure my changes cause the campaign bug and not one of Notaz's commits
20120423 20:51:02< mordante> of course if it is a bug somewhere I expect it to be me ;-)
20120423 20:51:17< Ivanovic> i can test this on the weekend if you remember to remind me of testing it
20120423 20:51:19< Ivanovic> ;)
20120423 20:52:15< mordante> I'll remind you if you remind me to remind you ;-)
20120423 20:52:26< Ivanovic> i might forget to do so...
20120423 20:53:04< Ivanovic> hmmm, should i abuse my hardware from work to add a reminder in my calendar?
20120423 20:53:32< Teugon> excuse me guys but, how should I know if I'm gonna be accepted for GSoC ? I mean ASAIK the deadline to accept students will time up in 10 minutes and I've not seen anything neither wesnoth's application, nor at Google's one. Is that meaning I've not been choosen ?
20120423 20:53:57< mordante> Teugon, you need to wait for another ten minutes
20120423 20:54:00< shadowm> 7 minutes here ;)
20120423 20:54:00< Ivanovic> Teugon: the "deadline" is no deadline, that is just the date when things are announced
20120423 20:54:18< crab_> Teugon: as I understand, you'll get a letter in any case (plus the list would be announced on google's site)
20120423 20:54:59< mordante> Ivanovic, there's no reason not to give a _real_ purpose to the hardware at work
20120423 20:55:09< Ivanovic> hehehe
20120423 20:55:37< CIA-69> mordante * r53983 /branches/1.10/ (changelog src/serialization/preprocessor.cpp): 
20120423 20:55:37< CIA-69> Fixes a preprocessor bug.
20120423 20:55:37< CIA-69> The preprocessor could look beyond the end of a buffer.
20120423 20:55:37< CIA-69> The issue was discovered by vultraz, who also tested the patch.
20120423 20:55:37< CIA-69> Backported from trunk r53845.
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20120423 21:01:12< shadowm> looks like melange exploded
20120423 21:01:24< crab_> well, it's expected )
20120423 21:01:41< crab_> I guess they should had just put a static page with a list of accepted students :)))
20120423 21:01:42< faryshta> grrr
20120423 21:01:42< shadowm> :)
20120423 21:01:50< faryshta> the melange page is sending errors
20120423 21:02:00< CIA-69> mordante * r53984 /branches/1.10/ (changelog src/network.cpp): (log message trimmed)
20120423 21:02:00< CIA-69> Fix binding to a temporary.
20120423 21:02:00< CIA-69> The result of std::string::c_str() of a temporary std::string was stored
20120423 21:02:00< CIA-69> in an object to be used later. Changed the member to a std::string to
20120423 21:02:00< CIA-69> solve the issue.
20120423 21:02:00< CIA-69> NOTE since the code involved contains serveral OS specific #ifdef's
20120423 21:02:01< CIA-69> not all changes are tested.
20120423 21:02:46< crab_> To all students who were not accepted : if you still want to play with wesnoth's source (and learn some C++ in the process), we'll be glad to have you along, and will try to help and answer questions.
20120423 21:03:37< faryshta> crab_, where is the link of accepted projects?
20120423 21:04:00< crab_> 1) each student would get a yes/no letter
20120423 21:04:23< crab_> 2) google's site would have this list (but they might be offline for a while)
20120423 21:05:13< faryshta> crab_, will get it by mail or in the melange profile?
20120423 21:05:24< crab_> I expect both
20120423 21:05:59< mattsc> faryshta: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2012
20120423 21:06:12< mattsc> very very slow at the moment though, it hasn't loaded for me yet
20120423 21:06:16< crab_> and shame on them for not putting up a simple static page :)
20120423 21:06:38< crab_> or caching the page at the frontend level
20120423 21:06:58< mordante> crab_, s/shame/shame again/ ;-)
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20120423 21:13:29< mordante> gabba, I just committed the NULL test since there was no other guard in place and I fixed that kind of error in WB before in that manner
20120423 21:13:47< mordante> gabba, however I'm your fix is better than the committed patch
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20120423 21:15:27< mordante> shadowm, FYI with r53983 and 53984 I backported to 1.10 the commits I promised to backport
20120423 21:15:49< Teugon> google's offline is making me feel like curse god..
20120423 21:16:02< crab_> it loads, but very slowly
20120423 21:16:15< crab_> on Nth try. and everybody is trying at the same time)
20120423 21:16:24< Teugon> I've tried 5 times, still nothing
20120423 21:16:29< fendrin_> shadowm: libsdl_gfx supports rotating.
20120423 21:16:32< Teugon> 500
20120423 21:17:35< mordante> it loads for me, just filtering the students takes ages...
20120423 21:18:26< Upthorn> I am getting an http 500 error on google melange
20120423 21:18:49< shadowm> fendrin_: we don't use it
20120423 21:19:10< mordante> Teugon, but the emails should be on their way now...
20120423 21:19:23< Upthorn> should be, but aren't
20120423 21:19:38< Upthorn> as far as I can tell
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20120423 21:24:30< crab_> well, melange's UI certainly looks nicer now, but it is still quite slow
20120423 21:24:44< crab_> and because they use javascript to fetch the list, google cache is powerless)
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20120423 21:34:38< Teugon> mordante: maybe I can get to see it from firefox
20120423 21:34:48< Teugon> once it will load :p
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20120423 21:35:05 * vultraz can see it
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20120423 21:35:40< Artemius23> Is accepted proposals announced ??
20120423 21:35:53< Teugon> it seems so
20120423 21:35:59< _vdn> Yes, here: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2012
20120423 21:36:20< _vdn> I see only 774 records and can't find wesnoth proposals there.
20120423 21:36:22< Artemius23> But I can't see any wesnoth project in there
20120423 21:36:31< Artemius23> Me too
20120423 21:36:49< crab_> there's > 1200 projects accepted
20120423 21:36:52< _vdn> Also, i cant find proposals of some other organizations.
20120423 21:36:54< _vdn> Ah!
20120423 21:36:57< _vdn> Thank you for info.
20120423 21:37:02< crab_> so, it times out when trying to get the list
20120423 21:37:08< crab_> shame on them :)
20120423 21:37:16< vultraz> ahh so that's why
20120423 21:37:30< vultraz> I was wondering where wesnoth went XD
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20120423 21:39:35< crab_> I can see the list of all wesnoth's proposals, which is smaller. 
20120423 21:40:03< shadowm> I just got a 500 instead.
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20120423 21:40:21< crab_> I'm about 'proposals submitted to wesnoth' list
20120423 21:40:22< vultraz> I got 700...the 345....the 200...then 100
20120423 21:40:28< vultraz> then*
20120423 21:40:40 * shadowm meant http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2012/wesnoth .
20120423 21:40:42< crab_> but, it looks like that their status is still 'pending acceptance', i.e. it looks like as if something went boom when they have run their 'announce' scripts :)
20120423 21:41:07< crab_> so, I'll not name the proposals, waiting for google to do that instead.
20120423 21:41:08< Upthorn> I don't recall whether or not this happened last year
20120423 21:41:31< Teugon> mmm.. to me the filtering is getting so bad I see only 200 project accepted. I'm cursed to wait the mail
20120423 21:41:55< crab_> Teugon: there would be mails, they'll sort things out eventually :)
20120423 21:42:05< Upthorn> but it is frustrating that the official #gsoc channel hasn't made any acknowledgement that there are technical difficulties
20120423 21:42:17< crab_> Teugon: but, as you see, thousands of students can easily ddos melange :)
20120423 21:42:30< shadowm> There's acknowledgment in the form of cmode +m so people don't insist on it. :p
20120423 21:42:39< crab_> Upthorn: well, why announce? everybody knows that melange has technical difficulties in those moments :)))
20120423 21:42:57< Ivanovic> at least those interested in melange at the moment know
20120423 21:42:59< Ivanovic> ;)
20120423 21:43:10< crab_> Upthorn: btw, were you trying to get into gsoc this year?
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20120423 21:43:39< Upthorn> I applied with ScummVM. I'm reasonably certain I was accepted, but... still somewhat nervous
20120423 21:44:24< Upthorn> some of the students there panicked when the list had "finished" loading, at 774 and there names were not on it
20120423 21:44:27< crab_> well, it's always the case :)) good luck :)
20120423 21:44:29< Teugon> crab_: it seems so. Anyway can't your organization annouce who has been accepted ?
20120423 21:44:53< crab_> Teugon: I opened the list, I've seen those students we wanted to accept as 'pending acceptance'.
20120423 21:45:03< crab_> If they would be listed as 'accepted', I'd name them,
20120423 21:45:26< crab_> But, it looks like their script hasn't fully completed.
20120423 21:46:20< Upthorn> It seems to me that the melange team should be running the script on a backup database, so the information could be seemlessly replaced once it is completed
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20120423 21:46:44< crab_> Upthorn: easier low-tech solution: just put up a static page on google's servers.
20120423 21:46:59< Upthorn> and there wouldn't be all the site availability issues caused by doing all this stuff on the live dataset
20120423 21:47:03< Teugon> I've experienced the list to grow up from 200 to 500 to 700 then stop loading and all vanish 
20120423 21:47:34< Teugon> crab_: or even a simple file to download.
20120423 21:47:54< crab_> i.e. read-only google doc
20120423 21:48:17< crab_> Upthorn: i.e., if you just disable all access to melange, and make it redirect to a static page instead, it'll easily survive thousands of hits due to google's cdn.
20120423 21:48:23< Ivanovic> google just wants to help you
20120423 21:48:32< Ivanovic> help you learn an important skill for your future
20120423 21:48:34< Upthorn> it would also have been good if they didn't give a firm "announcements" time, so that people wouldn't expect it to be ready immediately
20120423 21:48:34< Ivanovic> patience!
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20120423 21:49:01< Ivanovic> get yourself a cup of tee or a beer, drink that, relax with a good book or writing some code
20120423 21:49:10< Ivanovic> come back in some hours and you will see the results
20120423 21:49:10< crab_> Upthorn: I'd say that firm deadline is ok. well, surviving 7000+ users is easy, provided you do it right.
20120423 21:49:12< Ivanovic> simple as that
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20120423 21:49:36< Upthorn> crab_: well, firm deadline would have been ok if the script were guaranteed to be finished at that time
20120423 21:49:50< crab_> Upthorn: since everyone would just be interested in their status, mostly, even 'disable all web access and just send out mails' would work perfectly.
20120423 21:50:41< Upthorn> yeah
20120423 21:50:52< timotei> weird
20120423 21:51:00< timotei> Some projects list their projects, others not
20120423 21:51:40< boucman> timotei: the official announcement time has passed, and we had no "what to do in case of melange meltdown" instructions
20120423 21:51:49< boucman> so each project decides what it does separately
20120423 21:53:10< Upthorn> timotei: I suspect that the script is iterating through the organizations
20120423 21:53:12< crab_> also it looks like some of the projects had their students accepted by the script (and listede)
20120423 21:53:20< Upthorn> in some (hashing algorithm) order
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20120423 21:53:34< crab_> i.e. the number '774 proposals' turned out at some point for a couple of people
20120423 21:53:42< Upthorn> wesnoth and scummvm are both way toward the end
20120423 21:54:33< timotei> Heh, for me it loaded 774, 947 and now 1115
20120423 21:54:34< Upthorn> aha, just got my email
20120423 21:54:38< timotei> We're on the good way xD
20120423 21:54:46< timotei> I mean, you :P
20120423 21:55:02< timotei> boucman: cool. So who's in this year? 
20120423 21:55:23< Teugon> no mail to me argh
20120423 21:56:00< Upthorn> Teugon: I applied to a different org this year
20120423 21:56:18< Upthorn> looks like wesnoth is even later in the hashing table than scummvm
20120423 21:56:24< boucman> timotei: our project decided to wait for google to announce first :P
20120423 21:56:45< tyrannodogg> i can see 2 wesnoth proposals so far...
20120423 21:56:45< timotei> Upthorn: so, scummvm also? :)
20120423 21:57:12< Upthorn> scummvm also decided they had best wait for google to say
20120423 21:58:00< timotei> Well, it seems the wesnoth ones are up :P
20120423 21:58:29< crab_> yes, they are
20120423 21:59:08< crab_> To all students who were not accepted: feel free to ask, in private or here, why. also, if you want to do something related to wesnoth anyway, we'll be glad to help you.
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20120423 22:00:23< crab_> So, accepted proposals (listing names): Anja, Nephro, Justas Tomkus, EJLS, Aline Riss.
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20120423 22:00:29< crab_> welcome to gsoc.
20120423 22:00:41< bloodycoin> Thank you :)
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20120423 22:00:47< Akihara>  \o/ <-- don't know what to say
20120423 22:01:00< tyrannodogg> yep, congrats to all accepted students
20120423 22:01:12< Teugon> enjoy that 
20120423 22:01:21< timotei> Congrats everyone
20120423 22:01:42< boucman> congrats good job to everyone
20120423 22:03:16< shadowm> oh, si it's up now? great!
20120423 22:03:18< shadowm> *so
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20120423 22:09:37< bloodycoin> backporting question/git: when I checkout to tag 1.10.2 I get to r53827, but as far as I know this is not the latest revision. Any idea how to get to the latest one with git-svn?
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20120423 22:11:04< boucman> there is a specific git-svn command for that iirc
20120423 22:11:24< boucman> git pull won't work, you need the git svn specific command...
20120423 22:11:36< timotei> git svn fetch?
20120423 22:11:45< boucman> timotei: that might be it, thx
20120423 22:11:50< timotei> or rebase? :P
20120423 22:11:56< timotei> which is fetch + merge AFAIR
20120423 22:14:36< crab_> bloodycoin: you need to checkout a 1.10 branch, not to a tag
20120423 22:15:05< crab_> bloodycoin: and if you don't have it, you need to, for example, git svn fetch it before.
20120423 22:15:54< bloodycoin> oh, ok, gonna try it out, thanks
20120423 22:16:33< mordante> congrats to all students accepted, and those not accepted feel free to ask how to improve next year
20120423 22:16:50< mordante> and of course you're also welcome to stay and work on Wesnoth
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20120423 22:23:43< gabba> ejls_: congratulations!
20120423 22:23:53< gabba> and congratulations to all accepted in GSoC
20120423 22:25:05< Akihara> well, I would like to thanks all mentors :D <-- too happy
20120423 22:29:14< neph> same here, congrats to everyone accepted
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20120423 22:33:45< trademark_> Akihara, congrats rival ;-)
20120423 22:34:11< neph> crab_, hi, I know it isn't too important, but who is mentoring who this year? Especially on the AI tasks?
20120423 22:34:31< Akihara> trademark_: thanks, I thought you would be the choosen one :)
20120423 22:34:34< crab_> isn't too important :)) hehe, I hear a student with gsoc experience :)
20120423 22:34:46< crab_> neph: it's me, as the last year.
20120423 22:35:08< neph> crab_, well, it's obvious that you will help me with the AI and you will help Akihara, but who are the official mentors?
20120423 22:35:14< crab_> neph: basically, it's like last year, but please make sure that mattsc is happy and the documentation is good :)
20120423 22:35:41< trademark_> Akihara, enjoy your summer and build up a good recruitment algorithm.
20120423 22:35:58< Akihara> trademark_: sure! :D
20120423 22:36:16< crab_> mentors =      crab_: nephro, anja.     mordante: akihara.     boucman: bloodycoin.     gabba: ejls_ 
20120423 22:36:51< neph> I see, I knew we had 4 mentors this year and wasn't sure if multiple students for one mentor are allowed
20120423 22:37:46< mordante> neph, yes they are
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20120423 22:39:02< boucman> neph: we usually avoid it unless we are sure they won't burden the mentor too much (i.e enough external help/helping each other to allow it to work)
20120423 22:39:47< Ayne> I'm so excited :) looking forward to working with you all!
20120423 22:39:56< mordante> you're welcome
20120423 22:41:11< crab_> Ayne: you're welcome :)
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20120423 23:01:25< neph> mattsc, crab_: I've been gone last couple of days, and will probably be gone during the next 1.5 weeks, since the exams have started, I've been putting away the revision till the last moment to do as much as possible here, but now I really have to deal with that. Still 5 exams to come, but the last two are java and algorithms, don't need to prepare for that. So, I am back to work at full speed after 04.05
20120423 23:01:51< crab_> neph: ok, it's ok. 
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20120423 23:02:50< mattsc> neph: no worries from my side.  I have plenty to do with my current scenario for much longer than that.  And congrats to you and the other accepted students!
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20120423 23:04:27< neph> if there is anything essential that needs to be done right now, I can find time for that. I noticed that with the expansion of LuaAI it is becoming kinda unorganized, so we'll need to discuss some structural issues, before we announce it official(like folder structure in the data/ai/lua directory, places where we store reusable code, some refactoring on the AI table, since it is becoming quite heavy and branched)
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20120423 23:06:11< crab_> neph: the best way of announcing is 'document' :)
20120423 23:06:30< crab_> neph: i.e., if you control your own documentation, you can kinda tell that anything undocumented is subject to change at any time
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20120423 23:06:59< crab_> but, when others start writing your documentation for your, they'll document everything that they'll find, no matter if you intended it to be visible or not :)
20120423 23:07:33< mattsc> neph: nothing on my side.  I am doing my current work with the 1.10 branch anyway because I want people to be able to playtest without having to compile Wesnoth.
20120423 23:08:24< neph> crab_, ok, I'll note that. I just don't want people to start writing LuaAI right this moment, since I think, some changes must be done to the ai table
20120423 23:09:13< crab_> well, I'd say that it's ok to break things once, if it's done properly :)
20120423 23:10:21< mattsc> Even though I probably have the most to do in that case, I would prefer things being reorganized (once).  :)
20120423 23:10:41< mattsc> As in, I agree with both of you that that is a good idea
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20120423 23:12:42< neph> yes. I think that a good way of coming to a good solution would be one of us making a sketch on how it could look like, and the other two suggesting changes. I think the work of sketching should be done by me, since I am the student. but that will be done after may 5th, since the exams are piled up in this and the next week
20120423 23:13:37< mattsc> neph:  sounds good to me
20120423 23:15:36< crab_> neph: ok
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20120423 23:26:46< mattsc> neph, btw, my 'defensive AI' now wins the scenario essentially every time - but it still has a long way to go and does some really stupid things along the way...
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20120423 23:59:17< mordante> I'm off night
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