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20120420 02:04:21< ArmOrAttAk> hi
20120420 02:04:23< ArmOrAttAk> ls
20120420 02:05:11< ArmOrAttAk> any of you people know of any good strategy games?
20120420 02:07:13< Gambit> Hmmm
20120420 02:07:17< Gambit> There's this one I know of
20120420 02:07:28< Gambit> It's an open sourced TBS with a high fantasy theme
20120420 02:07:35< Gambit> Let me see if I can find the link for you
20120420 02:07:55< Gambit> ArmOrAttAk: It's pretty good. http://wesnoth.org/
20120420 02:20:32< ArmOrAttAk> we call that game yahtzee with graphics around here
20120420 02:24:55< shadowm> Gambit: no it isn't good
20120420 02:25:14< shadowm> it's a godly construction of awesomeness
20120420 02:27:41< Gambit> ArmOrAttAk: Where is here exactly?
20120420 02:28:29< ArmOrAttAk> USA
20120420 02:28:29< Gambit> shadowm: I'm not sure why, but my patience for RNG and FSF trolls is really low.
20120420 02:28:41< Gambit> shadowm: Like, I'm pretty sure I want to verbally assault this guy.
20120420 02:29:02< shadowm> if you do, the gods of Wesnoth will shed tears of despair and flood the channel with bans
20120420 02:29:09< ArmOrAttAk> ah you must be french
20120420 02:30:00< Gambit> "yahtzee with graphics"; at least he's in the 99th percentile of RNG trolls in terms of brain power
20120420 02:30:59< ArmOrAttAk> i'm not a troll. YOU"RE a troll
20120420 02:31:17< Gambit> I think it's the repetitiveness
20120420 02:31:48< Gambit> Like, I could explain all the whole cognitive bias things, and what not
20120420 02:31:55< Gambit> But there'd just be another in a few days.
20120420 02:32:21< ArmOrAttAk> you soulnd like a legend in your own mind
20120420 02:32:25< ArmOrAttAk> time rather
20120420 02:33:27< ArmOrAttAk> jk Gambit 
20120420 02:34:03< ArmOrAttAk> everybody loves wesnoth!
20120420 02:34:52< ArmOrAttAk> what other strategy game allows you to play a perfect game against a newbie and get your ass handed to you?
20120420 02:35:26< ArmOrAttAk> other than chess
20120420 02:36:06< ArmOrAttAk> i'll be here all week providing i don't get banned
20120420 02:36:07< shadowm> tactical foresight is important
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20120420 02:37:11< ArmOrAttAk> yeah
20120420 02:37:23< ArmOrAttAk> but not so much here
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20120420 02:37:54< shadowm> I meant it is important here
20120420 02:38:10< ArmOrAttAk> i've had a pack of dark adepts miss every shot on drakes
20120420 02:38:15< Gambit> 04-19 20:34:53| <ArmOrAttAk> what other strategy game allows you to play a perfect game against a newbie and get your ass handed to you?
20120420 02:38:17< Gambit> lololol
20120420 02:38:31< Gambit> If that's true, I should have at least one multiplayer win damn it.
20120420 02:38:33< ArmOrAttAk> the foresight was to buy adepts
20120420 02:39:06< Gambit> Your plan shouldn't fall apart based on a bit of bad luck.
20120420 02:39:17< shadowm> I think I'd love to have that replay
20120420 02:39:24< ArmOrAttAk> i quit playing for a long time after that happened
20120420 02:39:41< ArmOrAttAk> i might have it on the old computer
20120420 02:39:43< shadowm> assuming it was indeed a pack and there were a lot of attack attempts
20120420 02:39:50< ArmOrAttAk> i will check next time i boot it up
20120420 02:40:15< ArmOrAttAk> i'm not lying
20120420 02:40:20< Gambit> Why would you have a pack of dark adepts?
20120420 02:40:29< ArmOrAttAk> it was bad enough to get me to quit
20120420 02:40:34< Gambit> If that doesn't go 100% perfect, you're going to get a heavy meelee counter and get wrecked.
20120420 02:40:58< ArmOrAttAk> especially if they all miss !
20120420 02:41:17< shadowm> I was kind of assuming there was a pack of dark adepts surrounded by a horde of other varied unit types
20120420 02:41:27< shadowm> any other possibility would be stupid
20120420 02:41:38< ArmOrAttAk> they do 19-20 damage at night vs drakes
20120420 02:41:52< ArmOrAttAk> 70%
20120420 02:42:13< ArmOrAttAk> two shots
20120420 02:42:22< shadowm> when I mentioned foresight, that was meant to account for the possibility of not succeeding with the current strategy
20120420 02:42:44< shadowm> or that you may indeed have to sacrifice some units to let other, more useful units, live or gain experience
20120420 02:42:54< Gambit> shadowm: But you don't understand!
20120420 02:42:57< Gambit> He plays perfectly!
20120420 02:43:06< shadowm> that is, if you get stuck in such a situation
20120420 02:43:30< ArmOrAttAk> have you seen me play Gambit ?
20120420 02:43:33< shadowm> Gambit: no, obviously I don't understand
20120420 02:43:38< shadowm> I'm a newbie after all
20120420 02:43:43< ArmOrAttAk> thanks, i didn't know i had admirers 
20120420 02:43:49 * ArmOrAttAk blushes
20120420 02:44:09< Gambit> shadowm: players like us can't pretend to understand someone who plays "a perfect game"
20120420 02:44:38< ArmOrAttAk> shadowm: Gambit needs better reading comprehension skills
20120420 02:44:59< ArmOrAttAk> this leads me to bewlieve he is very young
20120420 02:45:00< shadowm> I feel I'm more qualified here to decide that.
20120420 02:45:31< ArmOrAttAk> how so?
20120420 02:45:33< shadowm> You have talked to him like, now? Once?
20120420 02:45:40< loonycyborg> Abusing Gambit has became an annoying cliche.
20120420 02:45:43< shadowm> I talk to him like every single day since two years.
20120420 02:45:59< shadowm> He's part of my healthy breakfast.
20120420 02:46:04< Gambit> Hahaha
20120420 02:46:04< ArmOrAttAk> is like your favorite word?
20120420 02:46:12< shadowm> But he has a good a point.
20120420 02:46:21< ArmOrAttAk> hehe
20120420 02:47:22< shadowm> I also can't understand why some people are let down so easily by a simple computer game.
20120420 02:47:48< ArmOrAttAk> i'm not let down
20120420 02:47:49< shadowm> I hope it's not that they all suffer from some kind of "winning is the only option" complex.
20120420 02:48:01< ArmOrAttAk> wesnoth is what it is i don't expect it to be what i want
20120420 02:48:39< shadowm> Great, if you weren't let down then I guess there was no point to quit after failing with a foolish DA strategy.
20120420 02:49:12< shadowm> But you implied rather openly that it was that what in fact happened.
20120420 02:49:46< ArmOrAttAk> um ok
20120420 02:49:57< ArmOrAttAk> you got me
20120420 02:50:15< ArmOrAttAk> i had all my hopes and dreams in wesnoth and it turned out to suck :/
20120420 02:50:53< ArmOrAttAk> but the graphics and music are still pretty cool
20120420 02:51:02< Gambit> Because winning requires more than spamming a single unit type?
20120420 02:52:02< Gambit> I have a sudden urge to play some Wesnoth.
20120420 02:52:10< Gambit> shadowm: :D
20120420 02:52:12< shadowm> Yeah, same here.
20120420 02:52:25< Gambit> 1.10?
20120420 02:52:43< shadowm> But you only play your quaint add-ons.
20120420 02:52:50< Gambit> Nah I'll play default
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20120420 02:53:07< Gambit> I only have like an hour.
20120420 02:53:11< shadowm> I'm there then.
20120420 02:53:19< Gambit> Lies
20120420 02:53:21< Gambit> I don't see you.
20120420 02:53:31< Gambit> Oh nasty.
20120420 02:53:33< Gambit> Eww
20120420 02:53:37< Gambit> shadowm: Okay I'll follow my nose
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20120420 03:51:10< shadowm> Gambit: didn't you know? in every game where I get to play northerners I get my ulfs pointlessly killed early
20120420 03:51:29< shadowm> all of them
20120420 03:51:30< Gambit> I played a perfect game.
20120420 03:51:33< Gambit> I don't understand.
20120420 03:51:36< Gambit> Darn RNG!
20120420 03:51:40< Gambit> xD
20120420 03:51:43< Gambit> shadowm: interesting...
20120420 03:51:57< shadowm> I blame the rng
20120420 03:51:59< Gambit> Those things were scary.
20120420 03:52:07< Gambit> I couldn't get my DA spam anywhere near them,.
20120420 03:52:36< shadowm> I actually had to spend minutes this time pondering where to place them so you couldn't reach and get them to commit suicide in that roundabout fashion i'm well known for
20120420 03:52:49< Gambit> I mean... when I play against undead, they always do a frustratingly good job of shepherding their DAs.
20120420 03:52:56< shadowm> I hate it when I actually have to think things through
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20120420 03:58:57< Gambit> Meh
20120420 03:59:13< Gambit> Might as well shut down now, and pack up the mouse and what not for work tomorrow.
20120420 03:59:42< Gambit> Yes. I only have one mouse :P
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20120420 04:30:55< debianer> hello
20120420 04:31:12< debianer> why there is no orocia addons in 1.10?
20120420 04:32:14< kernigh> debianer: Perhaps no one has converted the add-ons to 1.10.
20120420 04:33:02< kernigh> Conversion takes some work. If the author of the add-on is on vacation from Wesnoth, there might be no person to make a 1.10 version of the add-on.
20120420 04:33:25< debianer> kernigh: thx
20120420 04:33:33< debianer> kernigh: I love orocia
20120420 04:33:51< debianer> kernigh: have you ever played?
20120420 04:34:18< kernigh> I remember seeing Orocia (on the 1.8 server), and I tried it a few times, but I always died.
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