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Cool things to show in a bit 20120430 08:29:26< Espreon> Really now? 20120430 08:33:10< ancestral> For you, probably not cool 20120430 08:33:22-!- Drakefriend [~kvirc@31-19-75-43-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 08:33:23< ancestral> Maybe a "oh, hmm" 20120430 08:34:54< Espreon> I can't know until I know what it is we're talking about. 20120430 08:48:23-!- PolarPanda [~quassel@unaffiliated/peterporty] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20120430 08:55:51-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-19-120.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20120430 08:58:01-!- JackBauer24 [~JackBauer@178-73-43-6.home.aster.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 08:59:54< Ivanovic> moin 20120430 09:07:39-!- Muad_Dibber [~raymonvw@ip5451aac1.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 09:21:35-!- Crendgrim [~crend@77-22-112-72-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 09:41:07-!- RiotJozrael [~croselius@209.133.52.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20120430 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I think that's every standard hex. 20120430 19:29:56< ancestral> http://mproud.com/wesnoth/canvas/ 20120430 19:32:53-!- MeanEYE [~meaneye@109.94.96.2] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20120430 19:33:10-!- MeanEYE [~meaneye@109.94.96.2] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 19:34:03-!- mystic_x [~X@unaffiliated/mysticx] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 19:34:08-!- ancestral [~ancestral@65-128-236-41.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go sleeps kthxbai] 20120430 19:42:27-!- igorko [~Miranda@54-218-53-37.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20120430 19:42:37-!- PolarPanda [~quassel@unaffiliated/peterporty] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 19:47:33-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@ppp59-167-222-56.qld.adsl.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20120430 20:03:05-!- hagabaka [~quassel@24.53.178.92] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 20:03:10-!- hagabaka [~quassel@24.53.178.92] has quit [Changing host] 20120430 20:03:10-!- hagabaka [~quassel@unaffiliated/hagabaka] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 20:09:48-!- csarmi [csarmi@92-249-242-106.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 20:15:22-!- ancestral [~ancestral@65-128-236-41.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 20:36:53-!- shurnormal [~driedleav@142.Red-79-156-232.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 20:44:25-!- ancestral [~ancestral@65-128-236-41.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go sleeps kthxbai] 20120430 20:55:00-!- artisticdude [~artisticd@misc-148-66-39-74.pool.starband.net] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 20:55:19-!- artisticdude [~artisticd@misc-148-66-39-74.pool.starband.net] has left #wesnoth [] 20120430 20:58:37-!- Drakefriend [~kvirc@31-19-75-43-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 20120430 21:00:37-!- neXyon [~neXyon@84-119-56-54.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: bye] 20120430 21:02:31-!- neXyon [~neXyon@84-119-56-54.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 21:03:13-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 21:23:12-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@ppp59-167-222-56.qld.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 21:47:58-!- artisticdude [~artisticd@misc-148-66-39-74.pool.starband.net] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 21:48:24-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 21:53:19-!- PolarPanda [~quassel@unaffiliated/peterporty] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20120430 21:53:44< artisticdude> Is anyone here familiar with the CC0 license? 20120430 21:53:49-!- PolarPanda [~quassel@unaffiliated/peterporty] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 21:54:01< artisticdude> I've found a piece of art on opengameart that I'd like to use in a Wesnoth add-on, but even after reading through the whole CC0 license, I'm not entirely sure I can relicense the art as GPL in order for it comply with the add-on server rules. 20120430 21:54:20< artisticdude> The license seems to imply that it is permissible to relicense CC0 content, but I can't find it explicity stated anywhere. 20120430 21:55:22< shadowm> CC0 is a stand-in for public domain material for countries where such concept doesn't exist, so I think you shouldn't need to relicense it to upload to the add-ons server. 20120430 21:55:39< csarmi> hey anyone speaks french here 20120430 21:55:43< shadowm> I *think*. I'm not the add-ons server admin nor do I fully understand this legal nonsense. 20120430 21:56:06< artisticdude> Heh, I'm in the same boat. 20120430 21:56:23< shadowm> (the add-ons server is hosted in a country where PD exists, too) 20120430 21:56:33< artisticdude> I've tried asking about it on OGA as well, but the answers seem very tentative at best. 20120430 21:58:12< shadowm> If in doubt I'd just include a note somewhere in the add-on's directory citing the source from which you obtained the relevant asset(s) and mentioning their original license. Possibly int he COPYING or COPYING.txt file that's automatically added by the server, to mark them as exceptions. 20120430 21:59:16< shadowm> For reference, we once had a code unit in Wesnoth which was originally published as PD material. 20120430 22:00:23< shadowm> THe file in question simply carried the PD notice. 20120430 22:01:00< artisticdude> Hm. Okay. 20120430 22:01:10< artisticdude> Just for future reference, using assets licensed under GPL /compatible/ licenses would not be violating the add-on server rules, correct? 20120430 22:01:40< artisticdude> Provided there were some attribution or note stating which assets fell under the different license. 20120430 22:02:43< shadowm> I think so. Ivanovic , what do you think? 20120430 22:05:00-!- matthiaskrgr [matthiaskr@184.171.255.77] has quit [Quit: GeekBouncer - http://geekbouncer.co.uk] 20120430 22:09:29< Ivanovic> ugh, you ask questions... 20120430 22:09:40< Ivanovic> honestly, all i can say there is a clear "not sure..." 20120430 22:10:43< shadowm> But you are the add-ons server admin! 20120430 22:12:32< Ivanovic> details! 20120430 22:13:31< Ivanovic> since i am the almighty server admin... 20120430 22:14:05< Ivanovic> artisticdude: for any non gpl content make sure to explicitly mark it such (by adding some text file in the folder where the file is stating the license under which it falls and possibly the source of the file) 20120430 22:14:33< Ivanovic> and if this other license is compatible to GPL regarding "no idea which trustworthy sources", then it is fine to upload this non-gpl content to the addon server 20120430 22:15:23< artisticdude> Ivanovic: Since I believe that I can relicense CC0 content as GPL, would that be considered "non-GPL"? 20120430 22:15:42< Ivanovic> if you can relicense it, it would be GPL 20120430 22:16:19 * artisticdude realizes how dumb his last questions was 20120430 22:16:36< artisticdude> Okay, thank you for your help. 20120430 22:17:12< Ivanovic> you're welcome 20120430 22:45:30-!- matthiaskrgr [matthiaskr@184.171.255.77] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 22:46:38-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20120430 22:52:10-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 22:52:41-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Client Quit] 20120430 22:59:16-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@ppp59-167-222-56.qld.adsl.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20120430 22:59:18-!- hagabaka [~quassel@unaffiliated/hagabaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20120430 23:01:38-!- artisticdude [~artisticd@misc-148-66-39-74.pool.starband.net] has quit [Quit: artisticdude] 20120430 23:05:29-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 23:11:05-!- namad8 [aaaaa@c-67-163-246-17.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 23:12:11-!- JackBauer24 [~JackBauer@178-73-43-6.home.aster.pl] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20120430 23:13:29-!- namad7 [aaaaa@c-67-163-246-17.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20120430 23:19:07-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20120430 23:22:37-!- Crendgrim [~crend@77-22-112-72-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: ...] 20120430 23:27:29-!- Gambit [~gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 23:33:59-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20120430 23:43:47-!- Haldrik [~haldrik@unaffiliated/haldrik] has quit [Quit: Haldrik] --- Log closed Tue May 01 00:00:42 2012