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20120501 00:00:02< shadowm> Who is this shadowmaster fellow you speak of?
20120501 00:03:33< CIA-69> brilliand * r54053 /trunk/changelog: Fixed a typo in changelog
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20120501 00:18:17< anonymissimus> brilliand: also, it would be nice if you could make your commit messages better readable
20120501 00:19:23< anonymissimus> usual style is a short discription in first line, an empty line, and then longer description; and important to press enter for linebreaks since when viewing the log that could cause problems
20120501 00:24:49< AI0867> shadowm: no, we did not
20120501 00:25:44< shadowm> :/
20120501 00:26:24< AI0867> he fixed a misbug
20120501 00:30:13< shadowm> that's what we call it when a feature is mistaken for a bug?
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20120501 01:28:27< gnombat> Greetings!
20120501 01:29:28< gnombat> Anyone here?
20120501 01:30:04< shadowm> potentially
20120501 01:30:31< Espreon> Perhaps.
20120501 01:30:36< Espreon> ... but not likely.
20120501 01:31:11< gnombat> I submitted a patch about a week ago, and I haven't heard anything since then
20120501 01:31:21< gnombat> Is there anything else I need to do?
20120501 01:31:24< shadowm> which patch is it?
20120501 01:31:35< gnombat> It's the most recent one in the patch manager
20120501 01:31:50< gnombat> https://gna.org/patch/?3270
20120501 01:32:03< shadowm> I think you should just hope someone knowledgeable in that area takes it.
20120501 01:32:18< shadowm> I prefer to stay away from anything involving numbers.
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20120501 02:07:23< CIA-69> loonycyborg * r54054 /branches/asio_wesnothd/src/server/ (server.cpp server.hpp): Added a command line option to enable TCP keepalive.
20120501 02:10:43< fendrin> gnombat: Don't worry, sooner or later somebody will take care about the patch.
20120501 02:11:06< gnombat> Thanks
20120501 02:12:10< Espreon> ... Eventually...
20120501 02:13:01< gnombat> It would be kind of nice if it were backported to the 1.10.3 release
20120501 02:13:14< gnombat> (I may be getting ahead of myself there)
20120501 02:13:42< fendrin> gnombat: I just had a look at it. You just switch from integer to floating point calculation?
20120501 02:14:17< gnombat> Sort of
20120501 02:14:39< gnombat> The previous code was converting from string -> float -> string -> integer
20120501 02:14:56< gnombat> My patch is trying to do it more directly: string -> float -> integer
20120501 02:15:23< gnombat> The problem is that the float -> string conversion sometimes uses exponential notation
20120501 02:15:39< gnombat> which results in an incorrect result for the integer
20120501 02:15:56< fendrin> I see.
20120501 02:16:12< fendrin> You already tested your patch, I assume?
20120501 02:17:05< gnombat> Yes, I gave an example with the NR-To_the_Mines.gz save file
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20120501 02:17:38< fendrin> gnombat: I will commit it soon, it seems rather uncritical. Remember, when you get 3 patches in (but bigger ones, this first only counts 1/2 :-) ) you earn the developer title and get svn access. Thus keep submitting patches if you are interested.
20120501 02:18:07< gnombat> Thanks
20120501 02:20:23< fendrin> gnombat: But I can't tell about the backport to 1.10.3. Maybe Ivanovic wants to decide this.
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20120501 02:26:15< shadowm> fendrin: does it introduce a new feature? does it break network synchronization between clients of different versions? does it introduce a large amount of new strings?
20120501 02:26:32< shadowm> that's pretty much it. If the answers are 'no', 'no', and 'no', then it should be good to go.
20120501 02:26:52< shadowm> ah, also, does it change internal or external interfaces? (should be 'no')
20120501 02:30:38< fendrin> The synchronization thing is what I am worried about. 
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20120501 03:02:59< AI0867> 0:30 < shadowm> that's what we call it when a feature is mistaken for a bug? <-- that, but it can be more generally applied
20120501 03:06:24< fendrin> Tigge: Sorry, I only highlighted you by accident. I wanted to great timotei since he was my gsoc student twice.
20120501 03:06:41< fendrin> s/great/greet
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20120501 06:01:14< CIA-69> brilliand * r54055 /trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 
20120501 06:01:14< CIA-69> Add enter_hex and exit_hex events
20120501 06:01:14< CIA-69> Replaces patch #3186 (movethrough event)
20120501 06:01:14< CIA-69> Completes bug #8166 (feature request for moveover event)
20120501 06:01:14< CIA-69> Besides adding the new events, this patch changes fog clearing and sighted events to occur during movement instead of at the start and end of movement, respectively.
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20120501 10:40:58< CIA-69> brilliand * r54056 /trunk/ (data/scenario-movethrough.cfg src/actions.cpp): Fixed an unitialized variable, and fixed move-interrupting events not blocking undo
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20120501 11:11:51< worduk> I've trouble building current svn due to errors related to a non working gcc
20120501 11:12:12< worduk> I am on sabayon-weekly amd64
20120501 11:13:32< worduk> http://pastebin.com/xt7iRZij
20120501 11:13:42< worduk> gcc seems to compile fine
20120501 11:13:51< worduk> especially the kernel
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20120501 11:16:48< worduk> gcc: error trying to exec 'as': execvp: No such file or directory
20120501 11:16:53< worduk> that seems to be the error
20120501 11:17:32< worduk> if I try to compile a simple C test.c
20120501 11:17:45< worduk> looks like something is broken and it's not wesnoth
20120501 11:18:00< Ivanovic> looking at the output this really looks like something in your system
20120501 11:18:48< worduk> Ivanovic: Yes I am going to ask at sabayon
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20120501 12:10:06< worduk> ok now my compiler works again and I am able to fix some bugs
20120501 12:10:19< Ivanovic> great!
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20120501 13:43:01< worduk> zzz compiling wesnoth is really slow
20120501 13:43:32< worduk> and if you change an include which is used often you have recompile the whole code
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20120501 16:17:46< fendrin> zookeeper: My problem of modifying values of inherited units (remember hitpoints += 5) could be solved by support for [effect] in [unit_type]. Or do I miss something there?
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20120501 16:25:03< fendrin> hi noy
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20120501 16:31:56< noy> hi
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20120501 16:42:21< fendrin> zookeeper: I wanted to add my new vision= attribute to the wiki, assuming that it is best placed in the near of movement=, but the attribute movement= is not mentioned in the wiki in single_unit_wml or [unit]. Is it missing or am I looking at the wrong place in the wiki?
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20120501 16:57:51< worduk> I just finished compiling and tried scons install but it didn't install an executable
20120501 16:59:37< worduk> all the data is installed fine but it lacks the executabe
20120501 16:59:56< worduk> I am trying with scons install wesnoth now
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20120501 17:00:51< worduk> no it didn't work
20120501 17:00:52< Ivanovic> do you have the permissions to write into the correct bin/ folder?
20120501 17:00:57< worduk> yes
20120501 17:01:00< worduk> i am root
20120501 17:01:15< worduk> I am using prefix=/usr
20120501 17:01:35< worduk> so it should be noted in INSTALL that the default prefix is now /usr instead of /usr/local
20120501 17:01:56 * Ivanovic has no idea regarding the scons recipe, that is loonycyborgs turf
20120501 17:02:10 * Ivanovic just relies on cmake which, for him, gets the job done, too
20120501 17:02:35< worduk> ok so I'll try cmake and have to recompile everything
20120501 17:02:38< worduk> sigh
20120501 17:04:01< fendrin> worduk: wait
20120501 17:04:37< worduk> the wesnoth binary isn't even in the build dir
20120501 17:05:03< worduk> ah wait
20120501 17:05:07< fendrin> Then most likely your compile procedure fails.
20120501 17:05:10< worduk> there is wesnoth-debug
20120501 17:05:16< worduk> I'll just copy it
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20120501 17:06:11< loonycyborg> worduk: Why are you using /usr prefix?
20120501 17:06:29< loonycyborg> The usr stuff is managed by distro..
20120501 17:06:46< worduk> fendrin: yes?
20120501 17:07:08< worduk> so it doesn't run lots of errors
20120501 17:07:17< worduk> hope it's not due to my changes
20120501 17:07:51< Ivanovic> worduk: what was your exact invocation for scons?
20120501 17:08:33< fendrin> worduk: I wanted to suggest that you just use the binary getting produces and copy it wherever you like it, as you suggested yourself before.
20120501 17:11:37< loonycyborg> worduk: You can also run the binary from wesnoth's root.
20120501 17:11:48< loonycyborg> Without installing
20120501 17:12:15< worduk> ok it was related to my changes in config.cpp
20120501 17:12:43< worduk> downloading the list of addons is really slow
20120501 17:12:48< worduk> something seems to be wrong
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20120501 17:13:51< worduk> the addon server seems to be under heavy load
20120501 17:13:59< worduk> downloading an addon is slow too
20120501 17:14:49< worduk> I've canceled it it takes too long
20120501 17:15:37< loonycyborg> Seems to work fine for me.
20120501 17:15:52< worduk> so I seem to have fixed the cache bug
20120501 17:16:14< worduk> I'll try again with some debug output
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20120501 17:20:11< worduk> how do I enable verbose debugging messages being print at the console?
20120501 17:20:37< worduk> it doesn't seem to be listed in --help
20120501 17:20:45< worduk> there is only -d
20120501 17:20:52< worduk> which doesn't work
20120501 17:21:04< worduk> for example the log domain DBG_CACHE
20120501 17:21:47< loonycyborg> --log-debug=whatever
20120501 17:21:53< worduk> thx
20120501 17:22:04< worduk> did you read the stuff about the scons build?
20120501 17:22:06< worduk> loonycyborg: 
20120501 17:22:30< loonycyborg> Yes. 
20120501 17:22:46< worduk> loonycyborg: please note in INSTALL the default prefix being /usr instead of /usr/local and the binary doesn't get installed
20120501 17:23:54< loonycyborg> Nope. Default prefix is definitely /usr/local
20120501 17:24:07< worduk> It seems to be set to /usr here
20120501 17:24:13< worduk> I don't know why
20120501 17:24:18< loonycyborg> prefix= setting is saved between invocations here.
20120501 17:24:24< worduk> hmm
20120501 17:24:30< worduk> ok maybe I'll check later
20120501 17:24:41< loonycyborg> In file .scons-option-cache
20120501 17:25:38< loonycyborg> And there indeed seem to be problems with install, but only if build=debug is set.
20120501 17:25:52< loonycyborg> (and this setting is saved too)
20120501 17:26:16< worduk> yes someone maybe set it to /usr
20120501 17:26:20< worduk> but I don't remeber
20120501 17:27:12< worduk> ok I'll add some more messages
20120501 17:47:26< zookeeper> fendrin, well of course it's in UnitTypeWML, not in SingleUnitWML
20120501 17:49:23< zookeeper> fendrin, and yes, if you can add support for [effect] in [unit_type] then that'd sound like a good idea
20120501 17:49:40< worduk> does anyone know what's wrong with the addon server?
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20120501 17:53:00< loonycyborg> worduk: It seems to work fine for me.
20120501 17:53:18< loonycyborg> At least its speed is as usual
20120501 17:54:24< worduk> loonycyborg: hmm I couldn't even download the addon list because it was so slow
20120501 17:54:32< worduk> loonycyborg: I'll retry later
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20120501 18:20:00< CIA-69> loonycyborg * r54057 /trunk/scons/install.py: Fix install if the binary has a suffix due to build=debug etc.
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20120501 18:31:13< CIA-69> loonycyborg * r54058 /trunk/src/actions.cpp: Fixed compile warnings.
20120501 18:33:07< fendrin> zookeeper: Got it. The huge gape in the UnitTypeWML page confused me.
20120501 18:34:00< fendrin> zookeeper: [effect] is currently only usabe inside [object], right?
20120501 18:34:24< zookeeper> fendrin, and [advancement]... maybe somewhere else too
20120501 18:35:01< fendrin> [object] in [unit_type] doesn't make much sense, right?
20120501 18:35:17< zookeeper> right
20120501 18:37:37< vultraz> I've always wondered what that huge gap in the UnitTypeWML page was for
20120501 18:37:44< vultraz> and why it's not formatted normally
20120501 18:39:27< zookeeper> well, because the table gets bumped below the tag list
20120501 18:40:21< vultraz> but does it need to be in a table?
20120501 18:41:00< zookeeper> i don't see any need, no
20120501 18:44:59< vultraz> hehe
20120501 18:50:01< worduk> the problem with the cache seems to be related to attribute_value storing every number as a double
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20120501 18:51:24< fendrin> zookeeper: [effect] needs a gamestate, it knows about variables and so on. Unittypes are produced earlier when no gamestate is available. That might not be a problem since I can just store the effects and execute them at unit placement. But that will give me an out of sync unit description in the help.
20120501 18:51:25< worduk> it's a variant type
20120501 18:51:32< worduk> so I just added some more variants
20120501 18:52:08< zookeeper> fendrin, so i suspected
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20120501 18:52:33< zookeeper> my #1 suggestion continues to be "just do it by hand"
20120501 18:55:48< fendrin> A very non intrusive way of doing it would be to define something like hitpoints="+=5".
20120501 18:55:56< fendrin> No change needed to the parser.
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20120501 18:56:38< fendrin> I just need to code support for it in the config.merge() method.
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20120501 19:03:54< worduk> changes to config.hpp suck I've to recompile everything
20120501 19:04:24< worduk> it takes like 45min
20120501 19:04:46< worduk> just for a small change :(
20120501 19:08:06< worduk> I think I'll get a beer belly of drinking while compiling
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20120501 19:09:14< worduk> tomorrow I've to go to university again so I've no time for wesnoth. I've to finish it this night
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20120501 19:13:30< worduk> I really enjoy coding after a great time of abstinence except for the compile times
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20120501 19:23:41< worduk> In the past I was really skinny but now I grow a fat belly ;(
20120501 19:25:05< worduk> my girlfriend says it is due to drinking beer but I think it's the meds
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20120501 19:26:26< worduk> _vdn: what's wrong with your connection or your system that you have to leave all the time
20120501 19:30:10< worduk> I think everyone is enyoing the nice weather in germany
20120501 19:30:35< worduk> it is the first time that the weather was so nice at "Walpurgistnacht" and the first of may
20120501 19:30:37< fendrin> worduk: Isn't nice at my place. Clouded.
20120501 19:31:16< worduk> fendrin: hmm here it is a little cloudy
20120501 19:31:28< worduk> fendrin: and the sun is shining
20120501 19:31:50< worduk> My torso is naked and the window is opened
20120501 19:32:24< worduk> that's why I was talking about my belly
20120501 19:32:27< fendrin> Ah, it's too cold for being naked here.
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20120501 19:34:01< worduk> fendrin: Do you know the italian power metal band rhapsody of fire
20120501 19:34:10< fendrin> yes
20120501 19:34:14< worduk> fendrin: I really like listening to them
20120501 19:34:29< worduk> fendrin: I was at the only concert in germany in Aschaffenburg
20120501 19:34:59< fendrin> Never knew they are from italy.
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20120501 19:49:02< worduk> if wesnoth was written in C I wouldn't have to wait due to high compile time
20120501 19:49:49-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 172 bugs, 335 feature requests, 15 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20120501 19:50:39< worduk> I could watch a whole movie while wesnoth compiles
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20120501 20:01:29< worduk> _vdn is really annoying 
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20120501 20:01:38< worduk> he leaves and reconnect all the time
20120501 20:02:36< worduk> finally whiteboard/attack.cpp
20120501 20:06:43< vultraz> it's much faster in XCode (for Macs); it can compile two files at once
20120501 20:07:04< worduk> vultraz: is it like the MAKEOPTS="-j2" in gentoo
20120501 20:07:14< worduk> or -j3
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20120501 20:18:53< shadowm> most certainly
20120501 20:19:58< shadowm> does anyone know who this j_daniel person is?
20120501 20:21:45< worduk> it's forcemstr
20120501 20:22:06< worduk> I've added some network und multiplayer_lobby code like 5 years ago
20120501 20:22:14< worduk> I am worduk now
20120501 20:23:16< worduk> I am fixing the cache bug right now
20120501 20:23:28< worduk> so I've to wait for long compile times
20120501 20:23:42< shadowm> ?
20120501 20:23:43< worduk> because of changes to config.hpp
20120501 20:24:08< shadowm> oh, you are j_daniel then?
20120501 20:24:08< worduk> My real name is Jon Daniel
20120501 20:24:12< worduk> yes
20120501 20:24:17< shadowm> yeah, I already noticed with /whois
20120501 20:24:52< anonymissimus> anyone: after a reinstallation of win xp and reinstallation of grub boot loader, it added a --set=root A8F47E3CF47E0CB6 parameter to the boot options for win xp
20120501 20:25:06< anonymissimus> it seems that I can safely remove that...
20120501 20:25:22< worduk> anonymissimus: yes you can
20120501 20:25:30< anonymissimus> it causes an error about no such device and then continues booting
20120501 20:25:36< worduk> anonymissimus: chainloader+1 is enought
20120501 20:26:18< anonymissimus> and how should I do it ? there is a warning to not manually edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
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20120501 20:26:38< worduk> anonymissimus: just edit it with root priveliges
20120501 20:26:52< anonymissimus> so ignore the warning ? ok...
20120501 20:26:55< fendrin> no
20120501 20:26:56< worduk> anonymissimus: yes
20120501 20:26:58< fendrin> no
20120501 20:27:16< anonymissimus> ok, what ?
20120501 20:27:17< shadowm> yeah, don't ignore the warning, it's the for a reason
20120501 20:27:25< shadowm> namely, next time the GRUB configuration is updated for any reason, your changes will be lost
20120501 20:27:34< shadowm> *there
20120501 20:28:08< anonymissimus> so what do you suggest instead ?
20120501 20:28:22< shadowm> I'd rerun update-grub and see what happens.
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20120501 20:29:14< fendrin> hi boucman
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20120501 20:29:27< boucman> hey all
20120501 20:32:31 * anonymissimus reboots
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20120501 20:32:55< shadowm> there was an easier way to 'see what happens'
20120501 20:33:42< fendrin> :-)
20120501 20:34:14< fendrin> I remember my win95 times when you had ~20 reboots per day.
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20120501 20:39:14< anonymissimus> shadowm: thx, that worked
20120501 20:39:59< shadowm> good
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20120501 20:47:51< worduk> wow it works
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20120501 20:47:56< worduk> found valid cache
20120501 20:48:15< shadowm> what cache bug are you fixing?
20120501 20:50:39< worduk> #19681
20120501 20:51:01< worduk> and the related bugs
20120501 20:52:01< shadowm> interesting.
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20120501 20:53:44< shadowm> the only problem is that the probable cause (#19201) is not fixable on 1.10.
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20120501 20:54:19< worduk> it is I think I've fixed it too
20120501 20:54:31< mordante> servus
20120501 20:54:35< shadowm> I mean that fixing it on 1.10 could break add-ons
20120501 20:54:47< worduk> ahh yes that might be true
20120501 20:55:29< shadowm> and what solution have you come up with, anyway? I couldn't figure out anything that didn't involve reverting silene's optimization
20120501 20:55:59< shadowm> or that was ridiculously ugly like the workaround I used to get rid of #16571 for 1.10
20120501 20:56:57< worduk> I"ve added time_t size_t and int variants
20120501 20:57:14< worduk> so not all the numbers get stored as double
20120501 20:57:50< shadowm> that won't lead to any ambiguities?
20120501 20:57:54< worduk> no
20120501 20:58:02< worduk> no errores at all
20120501 20:58:19< shadowm> that is, isn't time_t just a signed large integer?
20120501 20:58:29< worduk> I just interpret value as a size_t or time_t or int 
20120501 20:58:38< worduk> it is a signed large int
20120501 20:58:53< worduk> I've already added lexical_casts for it
20120501 20:59:47< shadowm> it sounds like it would be better to generalize and just add a signed large integer variant, seeing as how size_t and int  have the potential to be smaller types
20120501 21:00:00< worduk> size_t is unsigned long
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20120501 21:00:26< worduk> 64 bits on amd64 and 32bit on i686
20120501 21:01:04< worduk> I've added the strtoul calls
20120501 21:01:10< shadowm> well, at least int is a smaller type so far
20120501 21:01:26< worduk> yes to_int is used quite often
20120501 21:01:37< worduk> but not with doubles as default
20120501 21:03:12< worduk> I think I'll commit
20120501 21:03:53< shadowm> ah, I think I understand now. The code will try the value as a smaller type before trying with a larger type?
20120501 21:04:02< boucman> bloodycoin: around ?
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20120501 21:04:39< CIA-69> j_daniel * r54059 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 3 dirs): fix bug #19681 and #19201:
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20120501 21:04:53< worduk> shadowm: it's just a variant
20120501 21:05:03< anonymissimus> shadowm: what easier way ?
20120501 21:05:24< shadowm> anonymissimus: reading the config file again and checking whether the bogus option(s) is gone
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20120501 21:07:12< worduk> downloading the list of addons is very slow here
20120501 21:07:26< worduk> I don't know any bug related to this
20120501 21:07:28< bloodycoin> boucman: yes
20120501 21:07:54< shadowm> worduk: okay, I guess my concern is more relevant for config::attribute_value::operator=(const std::string &v), which you didn't change.
20120501 21:07:58< boucman> so, what's up ?
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20120501 21:08:11< worduk> shadowm: I changed it
20120501 21:08:23< bloodycoin> nothing much... have been working intensively on my university assignments
20120501 21:08:27< worduk> shadowm: no I didn't
20120501 21:08:41< boucman> ok, did you think some more about the design ?
20120501 21:08:54< neph> bloodycoin, Akihara_ hi, do you know when is the deadline for posting the enrollment docs for gsoc?
20120501 21:09:24< worduk> shadowm: I'll check it
20120501 21:09:28< bloodycoin> neph: ne usre but I think around may 18
20120501 21:09:33< bloodycoin> *sure
20120501 21:09:42< shadowm> worduk: if I recall correctly, the parser feeds strings into config objects when reading WML from an input stream
20120501 21:09:46< neph> ok that's what I thought 
20120501 21:09:47< neph> thanks
20120501 21:10:00< shadowm> and then the config object is supposed to figure out the best internal representation for the input
20120501 21:10:51< shadowm> in this case, it'll still try to store large integers as double
20120501 21:11:05< worduk> so the cache works
20120501 21:11:12< AI0867> wmllint currently seems to break new-format maps when run on them (currently meaning svn HEAD a couple days ago, I'm in the middle of a commit)
20120501 21:11:14< shadowm> *config attribute object urgh
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20120501 21:11:32< worduk> urgh?
20120501 21:11:49< bloodycoin> boucman: I thought using inheritance to define different effect movements rather func ptrs could be tricky in regard to custom user defined functions
20120501 21:12:23< shadowm> yeah, urgh for "I keep forgetting config attributes are objects of a separate class"
20120501 21:12:36< bloodycoin> unless we create a separate implementation for user defined movement
20120501 21:13:44< boucman> well, user defined would be either "through WML" or "through lua"
20120501 21:13:53< worduk> shadowm: what do you exaclty mean by are objects of a separate class
20120501 21:13:54< boucman> and WML would be a pain, i'd recommand against it
20120501 21:14:12< mordante> worduk, next time can you add some more info in the commit message, if gna is down we have no idea what the commit is supposed to do
20120501 21:14:14< boucman> so we would need only one inheritence for a "wml implemented effect"
20120501 21:14:24< worduk> mordante: ok
20120501 21:14:25< bloodycoin> neph: also, if I remember correctly it's not that it's deadline, but if you are late with docs, your case of handling money/docs will be delayed
20120501 21:14:29< shadowm> worduk: config::attribute_value is a separate class (albeit a child of config namespace-wise)
20120501 21:14:36< mordante> thanks
20120501 21:14:48< boucman> or we can go even further and just say that everything will be in lua (in the long term of course, in the short term we hardwire the effect...
20120501 21:15:12< worduk> worduk: yes I know
20120501 21:15:45< mordante> worduk, also wonder whether it's a good idea to use std::size_t as type instead of the underlaying type
20120501 21:16:19< shadowm> I still think it'd be better to use a fixed-size large type; size_t is platform-dependent.
20120501 21:16:22< bloodycoin> hmm.... yea it's possible to make 'all lua', but again I am a bit concerned about performance... Maybe biased though...
20120501 21:16:27< mordante> shadowm, exactly
20120501 21:16:45< worduk> shadowm: so use 64bit integers all over?
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20120501 21:16:54< mordante> worduk, and if we want to support 64-bit values properly we probably should also allows unsigned long long
20120501 21:17:02< bloodycoin> for now I think hardcoded effect are ok
20120501 21:17:19< worduk> mordante: on amd64 unsigned long is 64bit
20120501 21:17:28< mordante> I wouldn't suggest 64-bit all over, they will only cause overhead on 32-bit system
20120501 21:17:38< mordante> worduk, yes but we also support 32-bit systems
20120501 21:18:00< shadowm> try with the native int first, and then a larger type?
20120501 21:18:32< mordante> if a config supports 64-bit on one platform and only 32-bit on another, parsing the same WML can give different results
20120501 21:18:55< anonymissimus> shadowm: which is what I did, it just replaced the device name with another meaningless (to me) one
20120501 21:19:06< boucman> ok, when do you expect to have some time to look at it ?
20120501 21:21:46< bloodycoin> I am going to try implementing that one hardwired moving particle tonight and hopefully finish by tomorrow.
20120501 21:21:55< boucman> ok, cool
20120501 21:22:20< bloodycoin> I mean tomorrow evening.... Even I need to sleep :)
20120501 21:22:25< boucman> :)
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20120501 21:33:29< worduk> I am out of beer
20120501 21:33:35< worduk> a big problem
20120501 21:33:51< mordante> how can you be out of beer in Germany? ;-)
20120501 21:34:28< worduk> mordante: It is the first of may and the only reachable store is run by muslims who don't sell beer
20120501 21:37:51< mordante> but no maifest today?
20120501 21:38:33< worduk> mordante: there was demonstration at the city of the DGB
20120501 21:41:00< boucman> noy: around ?
20120501 21:41:17< noy> yes
20120501 21:41:51< mordante> worduk, does that stop the maifest?
20120501 21:42:09< boucman> noy: do anybody use the random map generator in serious MP games ?
20120501 21:42:15< worduk> no but I don't really celebrate the maifest
20120501 21:42:26< noy> eh, not that I know of
20120501 21:42:40< noy> certainly not since the world conquest system appeared
20120501 21:42:43< noy> maybe noobs?
20120501 21:43:01< boucman> ok, so MP balance doesn't really care if we change it ?
20120501 21:43:19< mordante> worduk, but they should have beer over there ;-)
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20120501 21:43:31< noy> I don't think so
20120501 21:43:35< noy> its not used for serious games
20120501 21:43:41< boucman> ok, good
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20120501 21:43:49< worduk> mordante: I am living at a student home there is a beer automat
20120501 21:44:07< worduk> worduk: it costs one euro for a "Kauzen"
20120501 21:44:27< worduk> why worduk
20120501 21:45:42< worduk> I've got 2 Euros
20120501 21:45:50< mordante> worduk, hmm that sounds nice... 
20120501 21:45:53< worduk> so I am able to buy 2 Kauzen
20120501 21:46:43< mordante> don't think I ever drank Kauzen, but then there are so many brands in Germany
20120501 21:46:57< worduk> it is a Franken beer
20120501 21:47:09< worduk> worduk: I am living in Franken
20120501 21:47:20< worduk> worduk: which is part fo Bayern
20120501 21:47:45< worduk> s/to/of/
20120501 21:48:06< mordante> yeah I knew about Franken and google lead me to www.kauzen.de ;-)
20120501 21:50:26< worduk> the addon server is running faster now
20120501 21:50:35< vultraz_laptop> wesbot: seen Exasperation
20120501 21:50:35< wesbot> vultraz_laptop: Sorry, I don't know of Exasperation.
20120501 21:50:41< worduk> but still slow
20120501 21:51:29< worduk> I am trying to get SX Addon to test the cache
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20120501 21:55:57< mordante> I'm off bye
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20120501 21:59:31< CIA-69> shadowmaster * r54060 /trunk/src/addon/manager_ui.cpp: addon/mg: Tweak a couple of awkward UI strings
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20120501 22:06:57< shadowm> do we really need to know that...
20120501 22:07:13< vultraz_laptop> hehehe
20120501 22:07:29 * shadowm fails to see what's entertaining about it.
20120501 22:08:49< worduk> d'oh I am lost I don't know how to return
20120501 22:08:59 * vultraz_laptop finds stuff entertaining in general
20120501 22:09:36< worduk> 15.1MB of 16MB of the SX Addon
20120501 22:09:41< worduk> it's so slow
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20120501 22:10:22< enchilado> shadowm: worduk is narrating his life to us
20120501 22:10:30< enchilado> he has been for the last three hours or so
20120501 22:11:35< shadowm> ...
20120501 22:13:45< worduk> I'd like to fix some more bugs
20120501 22:14:02< loonycyborg> Ehh.. those annoying auto away msgs are annoying
20120501 22:14:16< worduk> loonycyborg: they aren't autoaway
20120501 22:14:19< loonycyborg> Imagine what would be here if everyone were using them..
20120501 22:14:31< worduk> loonycyborg: i just typed /away something and /back
20120501 22:14:50< CIA-69> shadowmaster * r54061 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
20120501 22:14:50< CIA-69> addon/mg: Implement 'Installed' add-ons view
20120501 22:14:50< CIA-69> Just checking whether it's worth it per http://r.wesnoth.org/p526549 .
20120501 22:14:51< shadowm> loony meant automatic away notifications
20120501 22:15:04< loonycyborg> That only should set your status as away
20120501 22:15:12< loonycyborg> It shouldn't make you say anything.
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20120501 22:15:16< worduk> loonycyborg: ok
20120501 22:15:42< shadowm> I'm getting a load of errors at startup.
20120501 22:15:58< shadowm> http://pastebin.com/2cDTrjk1
20120501 22:16:02< worduk> shadowm: is it related to my changes or yours
20120501 22:16:33< worduk> yes I'll change it
20120501 22:16:38< shadowm> common sense tells me my changes cannot cause this ;)
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20120501 22:17:04< worduk> I've added ERR_CACHE messages
20120501 22:17:34< loonycyborg> Maybe downgrade them to DGB_CACHE or something..
20120501 22:19:00< CIA-69> j_daniel * r54062 /trunk/src/filesystem.cpp: Fix Error Messages related to filesystem.cpp:
20120501 22:19:12< worduk> loonycyborg: I've removed them
20120501 22:19:30< worduk> loonycyborg: DBG_CACHE is too verbose
20120501 22:20:40< shadowm> You know, I think we (I) are doing it wrong. It doesn't make sense to disable pango markup in add-on descriptions.
20120501 22:21:01< shadowm> After all, Unicode provides us with crap like this: http://shadowm.rewound.net/f/what4.png
20120501 22:21:14< loonycyborg> worduk: Maybe info log level would be better.
20120501 22:21:44< worduk> loonycyborg: I've just removed them info is too crowded
20120501 22:23:16< shadowm> (no, just kidding. I obviously don't want to see some , um, "creative" person providing description text in an unreadable font color)
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20120501 22:28:39< fendrin> worduk: Sorry, but we are just too crowded in here to have full blown output.
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20120501 22:32:15< worduk> I am recompiling due to changes
20120501 22:32:32< worduk> it takes a long fucking time
20120501 22:32:59< Espreon> Indeed.
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20120501 22:47:01< AI0867> shadowm: that's an interesting version number you got in that screenshot
20120501 22:47:04< CIA-69> shadowmaster * r54063 /trunk/ (changelog data/core/help.cfg players_changelog): 
20120501 22:47:04< CIA-69> help: Add more elaborate descriptions for the Units, Abilities and Weapon Specials sections (bug #13914)
20120501 22:47:04< CIA-69> The intention is to reduce confusion when these sections are initially
20120501 22:47:04< CIA-69> empty for a fresh configuration. The discovery system is now hinted at
20120501 22:47:04< CIA-69> in these descriptions.
20120501 22:47:18< shadowm> AI0867: huh?
20120501 22:47:35< shadowm> oh
20120501 22:47:53< shadowm> I assume it's just coincidence that it looks like a number in exponent notation?
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20120501 22:48:48< AI0867> I suppose so
20120501 22:49:19< CIA-69> shadowmaster * r54064 /trunk/players_changelog: More changelog indentation fixes
20120501 22:51:06< shadowm> AI0867: according to the web interface (i.e. wesnoth_addons_manager) it's 1e-07
20120501 22:51:19< shadowm> that is, the full version number is 1e-07
20120501 22:51:31< shadowm> of course people don't pay attention to the version number format recommendations in the wiki
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20120501 23:00:25< AI0867> 20120501 22:59:49 error scripting/lua: /home/ai/src/wesnoth-git/data/lua/wml-tags.lua:377: bad argument #1 to 'put_unit' (invalid location)
20120501 23:00:29< AI0867> stack traceback: [C]: in function 'put_unit' /home/ai/src/wesnoth-git/data/lua/wml-tags.lua:377: in function 'cmd' /home/ai/src/wesnoth-git/data/lua/wml-tags.lua:297: in function </home/ai/src/wesnoth-git/data/lua/wml-tags.lua:261> [C]: in function 'cmd' /home/ai/src/wesnoth-git/data/lua/wml-tags.lua:297: in function </home/ai/src/wesnoth-git/data/lua/wml-tags.lua:261>
20120501 23:00:39< AI0867> that's from LoW5
20120501 23:00:53< AI0867> upon taking the gold
20120501 23:03:41< AI0867> hmm
20120501 23:03:51< AI0867> I was using LoW to test some changes
20120501 23:03:58< AI0867> but LoW is too broken to test with
20120501 23:04:12< AI0867> LoW17 just plain doesn't work
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20120501 23:13:59< CIA-69> ai0867 * r54065 /trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Rename [object]duration=level to [object]duration=scenario
20120501 23:14:04< CIA-69> ai0867 * r54066 /trunk/data/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Run wmllint to convert [object]duration=level to [object]duration=scenario
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