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20120512 00:02:37< fendrin> Espreon: Well, there is a "Panzerfaust" in ASC.  I wonder if I should find some translation for it or just go with the name.
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20120512 00:03:14< fendrin> Espreon: Of course that "Panzerfaust" isn't World War II's version.
20120512 00:03:45< jamit> fendrin: To better answer your question: I am also a native speaker of English, and my first thought was "what's a panzerfaust?"
20120512 00:04:08< jamit> "Bazooka" I would know, but not "panzerfaust".
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20120512 00:05:34< cz1stf> hi, we just discovered bug in core file units.cfg
20120512 00:05:47< Espreon> cz1stf: What is the alleged bug?
20120512 00:06:18< cz1stf> mounted has defense -70 in forest, it shoud be 70
20120512 00:06:42< Espreon> I'll just leave this to... other people.
20120512 00:07:25< cz1stf> I just tell it here so someone can add it into bugtracker
20120512 00:07:46< Espreon> And why can't you add it to the bug tracker?
20120512 00:07:49< CIA-22> jamit * r54150 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: 
20120512 00:07:49< CIA-22> Make units disappear when WML-killed without animations.
20120512 00:07:49< CIA-22> Discovered this while checking my revisions to screen invalidations,
20120512 00:07:49< CIA-22> but it appears to be a separate issue.
20120512 00:08:03< cz1stf> I am not registered
20120512 00:08:13< shadowm> You can post with an email address.
20120512 00:09:18< cz1stf> ok, I will try then
20120512 00:09:38< jamit> Isn't mounted defense -70 in forest intentional?
20120512 00:10:15< jamit> I thought that was what kept mounted units at 30% defense on forested hills.
20120512 00:10:17< cz1stf> -70 could be 170 as it's calculated as 100 - value
20120512 00:10:19< shadowm> cz1stf: btw, I don't advise PMing me on IRC without asking me first. I tend to miss these queries that way.
20120512 00:10:30< shadowm> not to mention that this issue is not in my area
20120512 00:10:37< cz1stf> ok, sorry
20120512 00:14:09< jamit> cz1stf: The -70 is intentional and part of r51547, which caused mounted units to have 30% defense on forested hills. http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=revision&revision=51547
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20120512 00:22:05< cz1stf> Then I probably don't understand the calculation or negative values are handled differently from the behavior which is in wiki
20120512 00:22:25< jamit> Which wiki page?
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20120512 00:22:51< cz1stf> let me find it
20120512 00:23:42< CIA-22> espreon * r54151 /trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Updated localized images for French.
20120512 00:26:52< cz1stf> ah well, it was changed, didn't know it, sorry
20120512 00:27:12< cz1stf> sorry for disturbing then
20120512 00:27:13< CIA-22> espreon * r54152 /branches/1.10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Updated localized images for French.
20120512 00:30:39< CIA-22> espreon * r54153 /branches/resources/image-localization/fr/ (logo.xcf trow-logo.xcf): Updated localized image sources for French.
20120512 00:31:50< CIA-22> jamit * r54154 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: Forgot to redraw the minimap (after WML kills a unit).
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20120512 00:37:38< CIA-22> jamit * r54155 /branches/1.10/src/game_events.cpp: Backport r54150 and r54154 (updating the screen when WML kills a unit)
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20120512 01:01:07< CIA-22> espreon * r54156 /trunk/data/campaigns/Sceptre_of_Fire/images/portraits/ (4 files): Ran umcpropfix.
20120512 01:02:39< CIA-22> espreon * r54157 /trunk/data/core/ (166 files in 9 dirs): Ran umcpropfix.
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20120512 02:10:46< shadowm> Can anyone confirm this? It should be considered a blocker for 1.10.3 if it's correct: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=528381#p528381
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20120512 14:43:15< gabba> Hey ejls
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20120512 14:51:12< the_new_lipk> zookeeper: around?
20120512 14:51:20< zookeeper> yes
20120512 14:51:42< the_new_lipk> I'm back to that modification thing I was working on
20120512 14:51:50< the_new_lipk> and have a question
20120512 14:52:43< the_new_lipk> it would be much easier for me to write the dependency resolution algorithm if I could say that a modification can't be dependant on another modification
20120512 14:53:01< the_new_lipk> would it be an absolutely evil thing?
20120512 14:53:30< the_new_lipk> scenarios and eras still could require certain mods
20120512 14:54:49< zookeeper> i'm afraid i need to ask you to remind me a bit about what this was about exactly
20120512 14:55:13< zookeeper> gamerule mods?
20120512 14:55:52< the_new_lipk> yes
20120512 14:55:53< the_new_lipk> "event-only eras", of which more can be enabled at a time
20120512 14:57:03< zookeeper> mmkay... well, it's not a fatal limitation for sure
20120512 14:57:53< the_new_lipk> cool
20120512 14:58:37< zookeeper> so i just couldn't make mods which are only available if another mod is toggled on (or off)? could i still make mods which are only visible when another mod is installed?
20120512 14:59:01< zookeeper> well, the latter would be doable with the preprocessor anyway
20120512 14:59:13< the_new_lipk> yup
20120512 14:59:49< zookeeper> sounds ok to me. i take it that it wouldn't be easy to add that functionality in later on then?
20120512 15:01:05< the_new_lipk> it would be easy if someone could write a proper depres algorithm
20120512 15:01:16< zookeeper> pretty surely someone will request that feature sooner or later, but i don't really consider it a must-have feature at all
20120512 15:02:08< the_new_lipk> I'm not sure that it's *that* hard, but I'm not really highly educated in programming
20120512 15:02:39< the_new_lipk> precisely, I have no formal education at all
20120512 15:03:00< gabba> ejls: around?
20120512 15:12:27< jamit> For the automatic link between SVN updates and the bug tracker, does the commit message have to say "bug #X", or is there a "feature request #X" variant?
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20120512 18:28:50< CIA-22> jamit * r54158 /trunk/ (changelog src/gui/dialogs/gamestate_inspector.cpp): 
20120512 18:28:50< CIA-22> Stop suppressing shroud data from the inspection window.
20120512 18:28:50< CIA-22> FR / bug #19623
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20120512 18:30:10< CIA-22> jamit * r54159 /branches/1.10/ (changelog src/gui/dialogs/gamestate_inspector.cpp): Backport r54158 (stop suppressing shroud data in the inspection window)
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20120512 19:06:15< CIA-22> jamit * r54160 /trunk/ (changelog src/mouse_events.cpp): 
20120512 19:06:16< CIA-22> Always call unhighlight_reach() before moving.
20120512 19:06:16< CIA-22> (It was not called before moving in a move & attack.)
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20120512 19:07:37< CIA-22> jamit * r54161 /branches/1.10/ (changelog src/mouse_events.cpp): Backport r54160 (unhighlight_reach() called before moving in a move & attack)
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20120512 19:54:09< CIA-22> jamit * r54162 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: Don't kill a unit before her last line.
20120512 19:54:35< CIA-22> jamit * r54163 /branches/1.10/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: Don't kill a unit before her last line.
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20120512 21:14:58< mordante> servus
20120512 21:24:42< mordante> Akihara, around?
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20120512 21:30:59< mordante> shadowm, want to look at the wiki later, but doesn't have a high priority so prefer to do it somewhere `in between'
20120512 21:31:11< shadowm> wiki for what?
20120512 21:31:18< mordante> the terrain WMl
20120512 21:31:21< mordante> WML*
20120512 21:32:05< shadowm> "so prefer to do it somewhere 'in between'" does this mean you prefer, or I should prefer? (this is why pronouns are so important!)
20120512 21:32:22< mordante> I prefer
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20120512 21:54:46< mordante> wesbot seen trademark
20120512 21:54:47< wesbot> mordante: The person with the nick trademark last spoke 23h 54m ago.  12h 48m ago they left with the message: Ping timeout: 245 seconds
20120512 22:00:33< shadowm> mordante: well, your patch is trivial, and so seems to be the script overall. Mind if I take it over then?
20120512 22:00:38< shadowm> (the bug, not the script)
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20120512 22:26:13< mordante> shadowm, feel free to do so, but make sure the | and l are not too much alike
20120512 22:26:52< mordante> shadowm, also I won't be able to test the modifications, since I have a bit of cruft in the update checkout
20120512 22:27:41< shadowm> I suggested <tt> because I already tested that idea.
20120512 22:28:26< mordante> ok
20120512 22:28:48< shadowm> It's obviously impossible to ensure that's the case for every system and every font, so if you wanted to do that you'd be fighting an uphill battle. The focus here should be in accurate documentation, not presentation.
20120512 22:29:16< shadowm> For example, I have yet to see || be replaced with a pair of Unicode broken bars in C snippets.
20120512 22:29:44< shadowm> *on providing accurate documentation
20120512 22:31:17< mordante> most fonts are sane and differ enough between | and l, but the one in the wiki is broken in that regard
20120512 22:32:17< shadowm> The one used by the wiki/glamdrol, last time I checked, was variable.
20120512 22:32:36< shadowm> In fact, it's the system's default Sans Serif font according to Firefox's CSS inspector.
20120512 22:33:05< shadowm> s/system/user agent/
20120512 22:33:34< shadowm> That's be Verdana here; for a default Firefox installation on a default Debian installation it'd be the system's, which would be DejaVu Sans.
20120512 22:41:23< shadowm> mordante: Do terrain strings with vertical bars (bridges, mine rails) display better for you here? http://wiki.wesnoth.org/User:Shadowmaster/Sandbox/TerrainCodeTableWML
20120512 22:48:27< mordante> shadowm, yes, seems to be smaller than the other text on the page, but there is a distinction between l and |
20120512 22:49:28< shadowm> mordante: did you try just now? I just replaced <tt> with <code>
20120512 22:51:23< mordante> new seems I did it before that change, after refresh they got a bit larger, still smaller than the other text
20120512 22:51:30< mordante> but the difference is less now
20120512 22:54:37< shadowm> Okay, I'll commit then.
20120512 22:57:50< mordante> ok
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20120512 23:00:32< mordante> I'm off bye
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20120512 23:11:17< CIA-22> shadowmaster * r54164 /trunk/data/tools/terrain2wiki.py: (log message trimmed)
20120512 23:11:17< CIA-22> terrain2wiki: Wrap .string and .aliasof column contents in <code> and use &#124; instead of the Unicode broken bar (fixes bug #19678)
20120512 23:11:17< CIA-22> This also extends the vertical bar escaping to the .aliasof column
20120512 23:11:17< CIA-22> contents (in case we ever get base terrains with vertical bars)
20120512 23:11:17< CIA-22> By using <code> we should be able to stick to byte-accurate contents
20120512 23:11:17< CIA-22> without compromising readability, by styling terrain type strings in a
20120512 23:11:18< CIA-22> default monospace font suitable for code display (i.e. | and l should be
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20120512 23:29:03< CIA-22> shadowmaster * r54165 /trunk/data/tools/terrain2wiki.py: 
20120512 23:29:03< CIA-22> terrain2wiki: Remove leading/trailing whitespace in lines before parsing
20120512 23:29:03< CIA-22> The Dark Flagstones terrain had .aliasof at the last line before the
20120512 23:29:03< CIA-22> closing tag, which caused a newline to be output right before </code> in
20120512 23:29:03< CIA-22> the wiki page, and in turn causing MW to generate invalid XHTML.
20120512 23:29:03< CIA-22> This change makes the generated wiki page valid XHTML again (except for
20120512 23:29:04< CIA-22> another problem with the actual glamdrol theme, not the page contents).
20120512 23:32:09< shadowm> I broke savannah with the commit message for r54164 ;) https://gna.org/bugs/?19678#comment8
20120512 23:32:15< shadowm> I mean savane
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