--- Log opened Sun May 27 00:00:22 2012 20120527 00:04:18-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20120527 00:04:29-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-10-97-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 00:04:29-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-10-97-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Changing host] 20120527 00:04:29-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 00:09:43-!- crimson_pingvin [~ben@S0106602ad06b8003.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 00:11:16-!- crimson_pingvin_ [~ben@out-ab-144.wireless.telus.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 00:12:21-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-078-042-163-105.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 11.0/20120312181643]] 20120527 00:12:38-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-18.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 00:13:11-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-18.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 00:14:24-!- crimson_pingvin [~ben@S0106602ad06b8003.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20120527 00:14:57< shadowm> I'm not a project admin, but since I didn't get your attention I went and posted vague crap here: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=529775#p529775 20120527 00:15:51< shadowm> Feel free to follow up with further clarifications or corrections if necessary, but somehow I feel I could be accidentally posting misinformation and nobody would care to point it out. 20120527 00:19:25-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20120527 00:30:43-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-18.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 00:31:18-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-18.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 00:31:46-!- crimson_pingvin_ [~ben@out-ab-144.wireless.telus.com] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - 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It's normally possible to press a number key to change the number of turns displayed. 20120527 05:18:38< Static> oh, I didn't know that 20120527 05:19:04< Static> You it's not permanent though 20120527 05:19:29< Static> However if you hold a number and press f1, it becomes permanent-ish 20120527 05:20:44< Static> also, the orc only recruited 5 units, is that normal? 20120527 05:20:49< Static> this is on easy I think 20120527 05:28:52-!- ancestral [~ancestral@17.232.7.176] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 05:40:16< shadowm> No idea, depends on how much gold he had left (you can see that in the status table in the main menu). 20120527 05:40:22-!- BluntmanGambit [~gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20120527 05:43:29< Static> yeah, it seems all about right 20120527 05:43:33< Static> thanks, and bye 20120527 05:43:40-!- Static [~Static@adsl-98-88-176-2.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20120527 06:10:21-!- ancestral [~ancestral@17.232.7.176] has quit [Quit: ancestral] 20120527 06:22:30-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@71-10-229-241.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20120527 06:35:23-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20120527 06:56:26-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 07:01:57-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20120527 07:26:19-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [] 20120527 07:51:13-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-127-66-8.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 08:00:02-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 08:06:52-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 08:10:34-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 08:50:54-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20120527 08:51:14-!- csarmi [csarmi@188-143-28-215.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 20120527 08:52:08-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20120527 08:59:54-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 09:29:19-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-18.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 09:30:05-!- matthiaskrgr [matthiaskr@72.29.68.157] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 09:48:36-!- vtrip [~chatzilla@115.241.133.82] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 09:50:56< vtrip> hello 20120527 09:51:44< shadowm> Hello there. 20120527 09:52:32< vtrip> hi i'm currently working on an ai modification 20120527 09:52:56< vtrip> i was running the game from commandline 20120527 09:53:46< vtrip> it displays certain data regarding villages occupied by player at each turn 20120527 09:54:05< vtrip> i wished to know how can i get other game info 20120527 09:54:30< vtrip> could have used in some stats and automate the games 20120527 09:54:43< vtrip> just to evaluate hows my ai was faring 20120527 09:55:13< vtrip> any helps? 20120527 09:55:25< ancestral> shadowm: Can you move r.wesnoth.org/t36714 from Coder's Corner to Experimental Corner for me? 20120527 09:55:38< shadowm> ancestral: why u no http:// :( 20120527 09:55:48< ancestral> I am such a jerk! 20120527 09:55:52< ancestral> http://r.wesnoth.org/t36714 20120527 09:55:53< shadowm> I can't have my terminal emulator guess that's a URL that way. 20120527 09:55:58< shadowm> thanks :) 20120527 09:56:04< ancestral> No, thank you! :) 20120527 09:56:25< shadowm> Why do you want to move it to Experimental? 20120527 09:56:41< ancestral> Well 20120527 09:56:48< ancestral> I dunno, what do you think? 20120527 09:56:53< ancestral> ;-) 20120527 09:57:24< shadowm> That seems like the best way to kill a topic without actually being accused of murder. 20120527 09:57:39< shadowm> vtrip: I don't know much about the AI area in general. 20120527 09:57:48< ancestral> You mean, exile it to the barren wastes of the Experimental corner? 20120527 09:58:47< shadowm> ancestral: Exactly, so it can then starve to death after going through the terrible torture that is absolute loneliness. 20120527 09:58:59< vtrip> ok..thanks.:) 20120527 09:59:08< shadowm> That's why I never move topics to Experimental unless asked for, so, if you want... 20120527 09:59:19< ancestral> See, I was thinking that I could settle in the undiscovered country 20120527 09:59:44< ancestral> vtrip: There are people who know the ai, it looks like most of them aren't on yet 20120527 10:00:02< shadowm> You might want to make sure the topic gets some kind of visibility before it croaks then, _if_ it actually goes unnoticed as a result. 20120527 10:01:09< ancestral> Sure? 20120527 10:01:21< shadowm> So, moved. 20120527 10:01:32-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-18.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 10:01:34< ancestral> Cool. Thank you sir. 20120527 10:01:43< ancestral> Er, my lord 20120527 10:02:12-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-18.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 10:02:23< ancestral> (You have a title, after all) 20120527 10:02:44-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 10:02:57< shadowm> Right. 20120527 10:03:26< vtrip> ancestal:thanks..bbl :) 20120527 10:03:57-!- vtrip [~chatzilla@115.241.133.82] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20120527 10:12:55-!- EdB [~edb@tss37-1-89-82-194-231.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 10:21:15-!- atomicbomb [~quassel@180.246.191.240] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20120527 10:21:31-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db26bd1.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 10:21:31-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db26bd1.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Changing host] 20120527 10:21:31-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 10:23:30< Ivanovic_> moin 20120527 10:23:38-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Disconnected by services] 20120527 10:23:41-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20120527 10:34:44-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-18.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 10:35:20-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-18.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 10:40:44-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-18.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 10:41:32-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-18.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 10:41:43-!- ToBeFree [~tobefree@unaffiliated/tobefree] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 10:53:07-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl4E5CD84C.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 11:01:35-!- trademark_ [~trademark@mon69-1-82-67-23-185.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 11:10:55-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-18.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 11:11:38-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-18.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 11:17:11-!- the_new_lipk [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 11:20:38-!- mordante [~mordante@roadie.xs4all.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 11:20:38-!- mordante [~mordante@roadie.xs4all.nl] has quit [Changing host] 20120527 11:20:38-!- mordante [~mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 11:20:53< mordante> servus 20120527 11:21:35< mordante> Rhonda, indeed odd that it works now 20120527 11:26:43-!- _vdn1 [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-246-155.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 11:28:51-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-225-18.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20120527 11:34:34-!- light_mage [~chatzilla@115.117.156.205] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 11:35:18< light_mage> hi guys, can some one help me a little with formula ai? 20120527 11:38:29< Ivanovic> personally i'd recommend you ask a question and wait patiently for a reply, light_mage 20120527 11:38:47< Ivanovic> someone else might be able to answer though it can also happen that you e.g. have to wait for Crab_ to appear 20120527 11:38:47< light_mage> thx, will do 20120527 11:39:03< light_mage> so i should just post a question here? 20120527 11:39:09< Ivanovic> that is: he tends to read the logs, so just staying in here and waiting might give you results 20120527 11:39:10< Ivanovic> exactly 20120527 11:39:18< light_mage> k k thx 20120527 11:41:00< light_mage> Hi! I am trying to hardcode a recruit pattern for first 2 turns for orc ai on den of onis, just to learn how formula ai works. I use the if function to check for the current turn, but it says error registering candidate action. Pls help 20120527 11:42:53< mordante> light_mage, best also pastebin your code somewhere 20120527 11:43:32< light_mage> ok, pls tell me how do i do that? I am a little new to this 20120527 11:44:27< mordante> upload your file on this site http://paste.debian.net/ and post the URL to the post here 20120527 11:44:47< light_mage> ok, thanks mordante :) 20120527 11:45:06< mordante> you're welcome 20120527 11:45:24-!- _vdn1 [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-246-155.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 11:46:03-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-246-155.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 11:51:17-!- light_mage [~chatzilla@115.117.156.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20120527 11:53:27-!- light_mage [~chatzilla@115.241.135.246] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 11:57:02< light_mage> here i have pasted part of the code which gives error in my fai file http://pastebin.com/bqjhZVJA 20120527 11:58:39< mordante> the first [ is not closed 20120527 12:00:29< light_mage> h 20120527 12:00:31< light_mage> oh 20120527 12:00:40< light_mage> thx so much 20120527 12:00:58< light_mage> is there any way i can do this with syntax highlighting 20120527 12:01:16< light_mage> i don't know vim and i am writing my code in gedit 20120527 12:01:42< mordante> I only use vim no idea about gedit 20120527 12:01:44< ancestral> There's an eclipse plugin. I think it has syntax highlighting 20120527 12:02:35< ancestral> Found this. It's old, but it might be relevant: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=13789 20120527 12:03:12< ancestral> light_mage: Better: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=517201#p517201 20120527 12:03:45< light_mage> thx. i am on it 20120527 12:03:50< CIA-61> mordante * r54311 /trunk/ (10 files in 6 dirs): 20120527 12:03:50< CIA-61> Add a builder for a pane. 20120527 12:03:50< CIA-61> The code is used to experiment with a different approach of the 20120527 12:03:50< CIA-61> implementation of a listbox. 20120527 12:10:18-!- light_mage_ [~chatzilla@115.117.157.142] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 12:10:24-!- light_mage [~chatzilla@115.241.135.246] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 8.0/20111115184056]] 20120527 12:10:25-!- light_mage_ is now known as light_mage 20120527 12:14:34-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-246-155.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 12:15:09-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-246-155.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 12:18:44-!- _vdn1 [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-98.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 12:21:09-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-246-155.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20120527 12:23:12-!- Crendgrim [~crend@77-22-112-72-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 12:23:16< light_mage> Hi again! as mordante pointed out, I corrected the error in my fai file about closing the first [, but it still gives cannot parse expression in formula error. Here is my config file: http://pastebin.com/CEJ8sn3y and the fai file: http://pastebin.com/TKRzcf5K 20120527 12:23:25< light_mage> pls help 20120527 12:28:29< mordante> light_mage, what's the name of your AI? 20120527 12:28:39< light_mage> Orcish_ai 20120527 12:31:43< light_mage> What I did was I saved this file in the ais folder, along side testing_ai_default.cfg, and made a new folder for my fai files 20120527 12:31:58< light_mage> It works fine if I replace the if code with just one recruit statement 20120527 12:33:19< mordante> I'm not too familiar with that part of the code, but fai 'den_of_onis_northerner_recruit_strategy.fai' seems wrong to me 20120527 12:33:41< light_mage> thanks, it is solved now 20120527 12:33:51< light_mage> I had placed a semicolon after if 20120527 12:34:00< light_mage> statement, which was causing this error 20120527 12:34:07< light_mage> thx for the help 20120527 12:34:14< mordante> you're welcome 20120527 12:34:31< mordante> still the name of the fai looks still odd, would expect 20120527 12:34:49< mordante> den_of_onis_recruit_strategy or den_of_onis_northerner_recruit_strategy 20120527 12:35:11< mordante> den_of_onis_northerners_recruit_strategy* 20120527 12:35:16-!- atomicbomb [~quassel@180.246.189.166] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 12:36:36< light_mage> k k i just picked it in a haste 20120527 12:36:42< light_mage> will update it 20120527 12:36:49< mordante> ok 20120527 12:43:33-!- atomicbomb [~quassel@180.246.189.166] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20120527 12:54:56< the_new_lipk> light_mage: that gedit plugin doesn't support formula ai 20120527 12:59:55-!- neXyon [~neXyon@84-119-56-54.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 13:03:41< the_new_lipk> zookeeper, I've come to the conclusion that the grouping method would result in a rather complicated and unintuitive wml interface, so I'm going to go with your idea instead 20120527 13:04:00-!- _vdn1 [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-98.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20120527 13:04:26-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-98.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 13:04:53-!- MeccaGod [majs@host189-199.bornet.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 13:05:04< the_new_lipk> however, I dislike the thought of using allow_xyz for this purpose, so I'd rather introduce (sigh) yet another attribute set, ignore_incompatible_xyz= 20120527 13:05:55< the_new_lipk> this naming also suggests that you're leaving safe ground by using these keys, which is pretty much the case in fact 20120527 13:12:31-!- csarmi [~csarmi@host-88-132-151-239.prtelecom.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 13:18:55< zookeeper> the_new_lipk, sounds good to me 20120527 13:31:36-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-98.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 13:32:08-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-98.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 13:34:45-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20120527 13:52:59-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-98.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 13:53:16-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: enchilado, the_new_lipk, EdB 20120527 13:53:32-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-98.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 14:01:57-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-98.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 14:02:36-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-98.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 14:04:48-!- Netsplit over, joins: the_new_lipk 20120527 14:16:08-!- EdB [~edb@tss37-1-89-82-194-231.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 14:16:08-!- enchilado [~enchilado@defocus/yummy/enchilado] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 14:18:02< light_mage> Hi guys! How can I make formula ai make random recruits? AFAIK you have to specify the type of unit in the recruit function. Also can the ai know what type of units enemy has? If yes, how? 20120527 14:19:39-!- Crab_ [Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 14:43:24-!- EdB [~edb@tss37-1-89-82-194-231.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20120527 14:44:28-!- Gambit [~gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 14:45:27-!- the_new_lipk [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20120527 14:49:02-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp91-77-248-98.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20120527 14:51:55-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-227.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 14:56:28-!- the_new_lipk [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 15:03:19-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@ppp59-167-222-56.qld.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 15:04:53-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-227.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 15:04:54< light_mage> hey guys, if someone can help, i want to know how can i use my custom ai to test from the console 20120527 15:05:14< light_mage> I type it with --ai-config and then path of my ai file, but it always times out 20120527 15:05:33< light_mage> with gui version it shows a battle and win/loss but not on console 20120527 15:05:38-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-227.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 15:09:18< Crab_> light_mage: hello 20120527 15:09:30< light_mage> hi Crab_ 20120527 15:09:54-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 15:10:46< Crab_> light_mage: it worked some time ago; and I believe someone on the forums was able to get it working from command-line just recently. so, it should work. check how utils/ai_test/ai_test.py does it 20120527 15:11:09< Crab_> the additional options to pass were --log-info=ai/testing --nogui --multiplayer --controller1=ai --controller2=ai 20120527 15:12:00< Crab_> also note that the AI config file must be stand-alone 20120527 15:12:24< Crab_> i.e. it should include all the AI macros inside, before they are used 20120527 15:13:37< mordante> Crab_, did you already found some time to look at Akihara's patch? 20120527 15:13:59-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-227.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 15:14:05< Akihara> mordante: hi, I just ask him the same question :P 20120527 15:14:07< Crab_> mordante: not yet, but I'll most likely look at it today in the evening, in +6 to +8 hours 20120527 15:14:20< Crab_> light_mage: see http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=36680 20120527 15:14:33-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-227.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 15:15:13< mordante> Akihara, ah ok, didn't know ;-) 20120527 15:15:23< mordante> nice Crab_ 20120527 15:15:28< Akihara> :) 20120527 15:16:14< Crab_> light_mage: that forum post probably has better (more up-to-date) command-line parameters 20120527 15:16:30-!- the_new_lipk [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Quit: Távozom] 20120527 15:16:38< Crab_> it also lists explicitly what must be done to get a standalone AI config 20120527 15:18:26-!- csarmi [~csarmi@host-88-132-151-239.prtelecom.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20120527 15:19:01< mordante> Akihara, didn't know whether or not you were around ;-) 20120527 15:19:23< Akihara> i am, i am, i'm working right now :) 20120527 15:20:09< mordante> :-) 20120527 15:26:18-!- csarmi [~csarmi@host-88-132-151-239.prtelecom.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 15:34:26-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-227.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 15:34:59-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-227.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 15:40:23-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@g224190085.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 15:41:32-!- Crendgrim [~crend@77-22-112-72-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: ...] 20120527 15:48:31-!- loonybot_ [~loonybot@46.138.76.61] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 15:48:33-!- loonybot_ [~loonybot@46.138.76.61] has quit [Changing host] 20120527 15:48:33-!- loonybot_ [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 15:49:38-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20120527 15:49:38-!- loonybot_ is now known as loonybot 20120527 15:52:17-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@71-10-229-241.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 15:56:32-!- trademark_ [~trademark@mon69-1-82-67-23-185.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20120527 16:03:34< CIA-61> anonymissimus * r54312 /trunk/projectfiles/VC9/wesnoth.vcproj: vs project update 20120527 16:03:43< CIA-61> anonymissimus * r54313 /trunk/projectfiles/CodeBlocks/wesnoth.cbp: cb project update 20120527 16:21:18-!- light_mage [~chatzilla@115.117.157.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20120527 16:29:57-!- _vdn1 [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 16:31:04-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-227.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20120527 16:36:21-!- lanceuulot [~lanceuulo@178.125.210.134] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 16:39:21-!- lanceuulot [~lanceuulo@178.125.210.134] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20120527 16:39:43-!- lanceuulot [~lanceuulo@178.125.210.134] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 16:42:26-!- EdB [~edb@tss37-1-89-82-194-231.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 16:43:21-!- csarmi [~csarmi@host-88-132-151-239.prtelecom.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20120527 16:43:33-!- _vdn1 [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 16:44:05-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 16:56:18-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 16:56:30< mordante> fendrin, what's the status of the editor and terrain stuff? 20120527 16:56:53-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 16:56:54-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 17:11:34-!- lanceuulot [~lanceuulo@178.125.210.134] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20120527 17:12:32-!- horon [~horon@nttkyo216070.tkyo.nt.ngn2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20120527 17:17:35-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 17:18:06-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 17:27:43-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 17:29:35-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 17:30:05-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 17:39:22 * shadowm is also curious about that. 20120527 17:39:53 * vultraz_laptop too 20120527 17:42:16-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 17:42:58-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 17:43:16 * mordante hands out German dictionaries ;-) 20120527 17:44:35< shadowm> I hate it when people use #wesnoth-de for questions and answers that make more sense here. 20120527 17:44:53< shadowm> Not everyone here is from Central Europe or speaks German. 20120527 17:45:34< mordante> not everybody in central Europe speaks German 20120527 17:45:53< shadowm> They are more likely though. 20120527 17:46:07< CIA-61> fendrin * r54314 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/chapter3/10_Cliffs_of_Thoria.cfg: Applied patch #3198 fixing bug #19565 20120527 17:46:42 * shadowm feeds the logs to Google Translate. :/ 20120527 17:47:04< mordante> uhm well no, unless central Europe is reduced to Germany Austria and Swiss ;-) 20120527 17:47:39 * mordante 's curious what mess Google will create from it... 20120527 17:47:46< shadowm> The only part I don't understand is "The editor itself works very well because there was only one off problem, I have a feature which is probably better in the release back in it should be." 20120527 17:48:11< shadowm> The rest is mostly legible awful English. 20120527 17:48:27< ancestral> I can't remember who it is, maybe Metal King on the forums, who has really good English, but capitalizes all his nouns. Heehee, it's cute :) 20120527 17:48:48 * mordante summons fendrin to translate 20120527 17:49:16< shadowm> I think he means he has a feature that is probably best to back out before the release. 20120527 17:49:25< mordante> back in 20120527 17:49:43< shadowm> So he means he has a feature that needs to be completed before the release. 20120527 17:49:58< mordante> yes a feature that has been turn off 20120527 17:50:02< fendrin> hi 20120527 17:50:33< mordante> ancestral, yeah it's also cute to see it in older English writings 20120527 17:50:35< shadowm> Incidentally, GT thinks mordante means "murder ante". 20120527 17:50:53< ancestral> mordante: You mean Espreon? :-P 20120527 17:51:14< shadowm> Or "ante murder" (it uses either order as it pleases in different lines for some reason). 20120527 17:51:26< fendrin> shadowm: I have disabled the "pick terrain under cursor feature", it needs to be back in for the release. 20120527 17:52:10< shadowm> Disabled, or 'accidentally' dropped?+ 20120527 17:53:59< mordante> ancestral, no some older readings I've seen 20120527 17:54:16< ancestral> Ahh, okay 20120527 17:54:19< fendrin> shadowm: Hard to tell, I re-factored the code, resulting in having the selected terrains not as a member in the class which handles mouse actions. 20120527 17:54:39< mordante> now to wonder what language ante is supposed to be in, latin maybe? 20120527 17:55:03< ancestral> Yes 20120527 17:55:16< shadowm> mordante: I don't think that's a thing in Old English, sure you don't mean when he Capitalizes Stuff Like This™? 20120527 17:55:31-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20120527 17:55:59-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 17:56:02< shadowm> Because that'd be tradesnark rather than syntactically valid capitalization. 20120527 17:56:29< shadowm> fendrin: I like it when people refactor their code knowing all of the consequences. :/ 20120527 17:56:52< mordante> shadowm, no something like http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/10522/capitalisation-of-nouns-in-english-historically 20120527 17:58:58< shadowm> Basically, when expressions like "maybe", "perhaps", "hard to tell" are used to describe the cause of a post-refactoring issue, I get really worried. 20120527 17:59:45< shadowm> Anyway, later. 20120527 18:01:32-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 18:01:48< vultraz_laptop> fendrin: how goes the editor in general....haven't seen any commits to it lately 20120527 18:02:07-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 18:02:14< ancestral> I'm trying to think of the best way to style a hyperlink URL so it jumps to my map viewer and loads Wesnoth map data. The goal is people can preview a map, even a custom map they've made. I could do something like http://link.to/map?data=Vv,Vv,Ww,Hh,Chr,Ch etc. of course, it could be some extremely long URLs… 20120527 18:03:19< Crab_> ancestral: url length limit of ~4000 chars? 20120527 18:03:48< ancestral> Crab_: I don't think any Wesnoth map comes close to that, thankfully ;-) 20120527 18:04:17< ancestral> Still, any URI more than 20 or even 40 characters for most people would be an absolute chore 20120527 18:04:35< ancestral> Incomprehensible characters at that 20120527 18:04:37< Crab_> ancestral: 3 symbols per data unit, X*Y*3 for map. 40x40 map with 3 symbols per data is already 4800, way over the limit 20120527 18:05:06< ancestral> Oh, I guess you're right then 20120527 18:05:26< Crab_> so, you have to use a key/value database and your urls would have http://link.to/map/any_id_you_want 20120527 18:05:33< ancestral> So the alternative is either link to map data already existing somewhere (pastebin, a file already on a server somewhere), create a minified data algorithm that would encode the data and re-encode it 20120527 18:05:34< ancestral> or 20120527 18:05:40< fendrin> vultraz_laptop: I have some work in a local branch, not commiting much to avoid spoiling the work of the gsoc students. 20120527 18:05:47< ancestral> Yep, create my own pastebin for Wesnoth maps 20120527 18:05:47< Crab_> pastebin is a key/value database, yes 20120527 18:06:14< ancestral> The advantage is, better URLs by far, it's stored in a central location 20120527 18:06:16< vultraz_laptop> fendrin: ohh 20120527 18:06:28< Crab_> ancestral: so, you can (ab)use any pastebin for that, if you trust it to not delete your data for long enough 20120527 18:06:38< ancestral> Right 20120527 18:07:00< Crab_> just make http://link/map/FOO contain javascript which would fetch the data from http://your_pastebin/FOO 20120527 18:07:02< vultraz_laptop> fendrin: I haven't worked on icons/art for the editor in awhile 20120527 18:07:40< Crab_> you'll most likely need to proxy a captcha for users to solve, when adding data (since most pastebins have captcha protection to deal with automated submissions) 20120527 18:08:23< ancestral> I could do my own compression 20120527 18:08:47< Crab_> or you can just base on any open-source pastebin and host it yourself 20120527 18:09:28< Crab_> well, there's little need to do compression 20120527 18:09:45< zookeeper> create a really clever map compression algorithm with which you can compress the map to fit within the url character limit? :p 20120527 18:09:47< ancestral> Crab_: Well consider this 20120527 18:09:51< vultraz_laptop> fendrin: are you still doing that mount unit thing? 20120527 18:09:57< ancestral> How many terrain codes are there? 20120527 18:09:58< Crab_> ancestral: ah, that way, I see. 20120527 18:10:02< ancestral> 100, 150? 20120527 18:10:09-!- vultraz_laptop is now known as vultraz 20120527 18:10:26< Crab_> ancestral: don't know, but let it be 100. 20120527 18:12:05-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 18:12:20< ancestral> I was going to say I could assign each two-byte value (00-FF), but I need to worry about base64… 20120527 18:12:30< Crab_> then, (rough estimate) you'll have 4000*8 bits to store stuff, if we're talking 80*80 map, then 4000*8/(80*80) = 5 bits for any hex 20120527 18:12:36< ancestral> So I could convert to base64, then gzip… 20120527 18:12:41-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 18:13:07< Crab_> so, for maps which have a lot of 'same' terrains', or for maps smaller than 80*80, you might be able to compress it, right 20120527 18:13:15< fendrin> vultraz: Yes, but the work is on hold since Ivanovic announced to release a dev version soon. The map format related stuff is more important now. 20120527 18:13:47< ancestral> I do have some JavaScript libraries that do base64 encode and decode and zlib gzip encode and decode 20120527 18:14:07< ancestral> In fact, I've forgotten, I already do this 20120527 18:14:23< ancestral> Different project 20120527 18:14:32< Crab_> ancestral: but it'd be ugly, I think. having a key-value mapping is enough. 20120527 18:14:38< ancestral> You might be right 20120527 18:14:49< vultraz> fendrin: ok, I;m just trying to remember what art I still need to make for the editor 20120527 18:14:53< Crab_> ancestral: you will need to host it somewhere, right? just put in any key-value db there (i.e. mongodb), and use it 20120527 18:15:02< ancestral> Yeah 20120527 18:15:27< zookeeper> a 50x50 png containing coloured noise fits into slightly less than 4000 bytes 20120527 18:15:43< Crab_> you can even store html as one of the values 20120527 18:16:21-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Client Quit] 20120527 18:16:58< mordante> ancestral, http://paste.debian.net/ doesn't use captchas and has no expiration (if wanted) 20120527 18:16:58< Crab_> ancestral: so, the 'draw map' would just do a 'fetch from DB by value, return to user' 20120527 18:17:00-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 18:17:15< ancestral> I got a JavaScript file to read in Tiled maps which are compressed in base64 gzip to decompress and decode in HTML (http://mproud.com/rpg/ - ruthlessly borrowed Wesnoth gfx for testing) 20120527 18:17:43< Crab_> ancestral: you can do it on map submission, btw 20120527 18:17:53< ancestral> Crab_, mordante: Pastebin style seems best here, yes 20120527 18:18:00< Crab_> ancestral: i.e. do it once when map is submitted, then just return the html to user 20120527 18:18:25< Crab_> mordante: ancestral: yes, it looks like that pastebin even supports xml-rpc 20120527 18:18:54< Crab_> however, doing backups is way easier when hosting said key-value db on your own 20120527 18:19:25< ancestral> I've got my own server, so I can certainly give it a shot 20120527 18:19:33< ancestral> And I'm not too concerned about bandwidth 20120527 18:21:42-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Client Quit] 20120527 18:22:20-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 18:27:31-!- MeccaGod [majs@host189-199.bornet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20120527 18:28:20-!- ibldedibble [majs@host189-199.bornet.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 18:29:07-!- ibldedibble is now known as MeccaGod 20120527 18:33:50-!- MeccaGod [majs@host189-199.bornet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20120527 18:35:13< shadowm> fendrin: There are no students working on the editor, so why should your changes interfer with theirs? 20120527 18:35:31< shadowm> *in 20120527 18:36:18-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 18:36:53-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 18:39:27-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20120527 18:44:51-!- csarmi [~csarmi@host-88-132-151-239.prtelecom.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 19:03:44-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 19:04:08-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 19:44:00-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 19:44:40-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 19:49:50-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 173 bugs, 336 feature requests, 15 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20120527 19:58:41-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 19:59:20-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 19:59:56< fendrin> shadowm: Because I made the editor palette more generic to be also used in the game part of Wesnoth. 20120527 20:00:14< shadowm_laptop> Why would we need an editor palette in-game? 20120527 20:01:01< shadowm_laptop> Or whatever you want to call it. Incidentally, no students are working on the theme GUI either, so that also seems to be safe ground to me. 20120527 20:03:04< shadowm_laptop> That is, two AI projects, a render project, a whiteboard project, and a game controller project. 20120527 20:04:20< shadowm_laptop> And the nice guarantee that no developer will break the game on purpose. :) 20120527 20:05:25< shadowm_laptop> What I'm getting at is that if you'll wait for GSoC to be over then you'll be wasting a precious opportunity to gather user feedback. 20120527 20:05:51< shadowm_laptop> That can always happen later, but the sooner it happens, the better. 20120527 20:06:15< fendrin> shadowm_laptop: The palette can be used for an inventory or a loading bay or a shop or whatever. I want to make the feature very versatile, the wml coder can define it's concrete behavior and purpose. 20120527 20:08:10-!- _vdn1 [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 20:08:11-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20120527 20:09:39< shadowm_laptop> That sounds very nice. 20120527 20:18:46-!- lanceuulot [~lanceuulo@178.125.210.134] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 20:18:59< lanceuulot> hi guys 20120527 20:19:27< lanceuulot> how can I use my own images, placed into my_addon directory (not into core)? 20120527 20:20:44-!- the_new_lipk [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 20:28:22< ancestral> the_new_lipk: I'm working on a Wesnoth mapbin site (like pastebin or imagebin) 20120527 20:31:12< the_new_lipk> ancestral: cool :) 20120527 20:31:41< ancestral> I think I could probably have something by the end of the day 20120527 20:31:42< Crab_> lanceuulot: hello. 20120527 20:32:04< Crab_> lanceuulot: check how other addons do it, download any of them and just do the same. 20120527 20:32:59< lanceuulot> hah thx, can u tell me any addon that uses it's own music? background music exactly, not sound 20120527 20:34:11< Crab_> no, sorry. btw, you can check http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35305 20120527 20:34:34< Crab_> note the use of binary_path, http://wiki.wesnoth.org/BinaryPathWML 20120527 20:48:48-!- neph [~neph@80.233.231.12] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 20:49:35< neph> Hello, Crab_. If you have time, we can have the talk now. 20120527 20:49:59-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 20:51:05< Crab_> hello 20120527 20:51:15< Crab_> it'd be better tomorrow during the day, if it's ok with you 20120527 20:51:29< neph> Ok, what time approx? 20120527 20:51:42< Crab_> but if there're questions, I can answer them now - it's just I would prefer to have a longer talk tomorrow. 20120527 20:52:26< neph> No urgent questions atm 20120527 20:52:53< Crab_> something like 14:00 GMT+2 to 18:00 GMT+2 20120527 20:53:32< neph> Ok, then, I'll be here 20120527 20:53:43-!- EdB [~edb@tss37-1-89-82-194-231.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20120527 20:54:55< Crab_> ok, thanks 20120527 20:55:09-!- Crendgrim [~crend@77-22-112-72-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 20:55:12-!- vultraz_ [~chatzilla@124.109.10.221] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 20:55:30-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20120527 20:55:36-!- vultraz_ is now known as vultraz 20120527 20:58:02-!- _vdn1 [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 20:58:34-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 21:14:34-!- Espreon [~espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 21:34:19< lanceuulot> one more question. how can i change unit right in the middle of scenario. for example, set unit moves to null or add new type of attack? 20120527 21:51:50< Crab_> lanceuulot: in general, the best way to find those answers is to create a new forum thread in http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewforum.php?f=21 and ask your questions there 20120527 21:51:50-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20120527 21:52:20-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 21:52:38< Crab_> lanceuulot: for this particular question, you can see http://wiki.wesnoth.org/DirectActionsWML#.5Bmodify_unit.5D and check it's usage in mainline campaigns 20120527 21:53:36< Crab_> lanceuulot: there's a helper MODIFY_UNIT macro, check it 20120527 21:54:25-!- the_new_lipk [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Quit: Távozom] 20120527 21:54:53< mordante> fendrin, do you have more news regarding the editor? 20120527 21:55:56< lanceuulot> oh gr thx for MODIFY_UNIT, i've can't remember it :) 20120527 22:09:13-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 22:12:30< boucman> bloodycoin_m: around ? 20120527 22:12:49< mordante> I'm off night 20120527 22:13:14-!- mordante [~mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20120527 22:18:04-!- Samual [~Samual@c-71-195-88-69.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20120527 22:28:23-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@ppp59-167-222-56.qld.adsl.internode.on.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20120527 22:31:09-!- Samual [~Samual@c-71-195-88-69.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 22:41:48< CIA-61> brilliand * r54315 /trunk/changelog: Added changelog entry for r54314 20120527 22:48:43-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20120527 22:54:22< shadowm> wesbot: log 54314 20120527 22:54:23< wesbot> fendrin * r54314 : Applied patch #3198 fixing bug #19565 20120527 22:54:23< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=54314 20120527 23:02:02-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.114.134.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 23:03:40-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 23:08:02-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 23:08:35-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120527 23:17:25-!- lanceuulot [~lanceuulo@178.125.210.134] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20120527 23:28:12-!- _vdn [~nazgul-sa@ppp85-141-127-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 23:31:52-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20120527 23:45:10< CIA-61> zookeeper * r54316 /trunk/data/core/ (6 files in 2 dirs): New battle markers and improved journey dots from Blarumyrran, with the "new battle" marker having a simple blinking animation. 20120527 23:46:08< ancestral> In case anyone may have a passing curiosity, I did a count of the most common terrains used among multiplayer and campaign maps: http://r.wesnoth.org/t36896 20120527 23:56:22< CIA-61> zookeeper * r54317 /trunk/data/core/images/misc/new-battle.png: Image fix to last commit. 20120527 23:57:41-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.114.134.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20120527 23:57:52< CIA-61> espreon * r54318 /trunk/data/core/images/ (13 files in 4 dirs): Ran umcpropfix. --- Log closed Mon May 28 00:00:24 2012