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20120504 21:05:15< Tasser> in the campaign 'fall of wesnoth', the custom sprites are not displayed - ideas?
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20120504 21:06:50< Crendgrim> Tasser: I just looked at the add-ons, and there are two versions of "The Fall of Wesnoth" on the server. Are you sure you downloaded the right one?
20120504 21:06:59< Crendgrim> no idea if that matters, but it would be an easy solution :)
20120504 21:08:02< Tasser> 20120504 21:05:59 error display: could not find image for report: 'schedules/2morning1.png'
20120504 21:08:07< Tasser> get a bunch of them
20120504 21:08:18< Crendgrim> yeah
20120504 21:08:19< Crendgrim> I see
20120504 21:08:21< Crendgrim> I downloaded it
20120504 21:08:31< Ivanovic> Tasser: there are several possible reasons for the problem:
20120504 21:08:33< Crendgrim> the images are called "schedules/2morning1.PNG"
20120504 21:08:47< Ivanovic> 1) you are using some case sensitive file system and the UMC creator does not and screwed up
20120504 21:08:50< Crendgrim> a typical situation of someone developing on windows. sigh.
20120504 21:08:54< Crendgrim> Ivanovic: yes, that is it.
20120504 21:08:56< Ivanovic> okay, Crendgrim already identified '1' to be correct
20120504 21:08:59< Crendgrim> :)
20120504 21:09:02< Tasser> lol
20120504 21:09:12< Ivanovic> Tasser: what you can do is tell the creator of the addon about the problem
20120504 21:09:12< Tasser> vidir to the rescue
20120504 21:09:15< Crendgrim> Tasser: you might want to report that in the campaign's forum thread
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20120504 21:11:50< Tasser> 20120504 21:06:40 error display: could not find image for report: 'units/humans/tracker.png~RC(magenta>blue)'
20120504 21:11:51< Tasser> huh?
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20120504 21:13:40< Crendgrim> interesting..
20120504 21:13:53< Crendgrim> units/humans/tracker.png should be there
20120504 21:14:22< Crendgrim> ah
20120504 21:14:27< Crendgrim> the binary_path looks weird..
20120504 21:15:31< Tasser>     image="units/humans/tracker.png"
20120504 21:15:35< Tasser> hmmm
20120504 21:15:35< Crendgrim> Tasser: are you going to report the missing images thing?
20120504 21:15:47< Tasser> I haven't found the thread yet
20120504 21:16:02< Crendgrim> else I'll do so, as there seems to be something wrong in the WML
20120504 21:16:30< Tasser> ah, there we go
20120504 21:16:35< Tasser> do so
20120504 21:17:26< Crendgrim> ah, several people already reported it
20120504 21:18:24< Tasser> link?
20120504 21:19:28< Crendgrim> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=35225&start=30
20120504 21:19:33< Crendgrim> and following
20120504 21:22:25< Tasser> but they don't say anything about case sensitivity
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20120504 21:22:49< Crendgrim> that's right
20120504 21:23:00< Crendgrim> but it seems as if that's not the problem after all
20120504 21:23:17< Crendgrim> (well, it is a problem, but there is even a bigger one)
20120504 21:24:02< Tasser> then write about the bigger one ^^
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20120504 21:33:19< Crendgrim> I mentioned both.
20120504 21:34:00< Tasser> good
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20120504 21:35:42< Crendgrim> Tasser: if you dare to edit a file, you should get it to work (assuming I really found the error)
20120504 21:38:03< Tasser> Crendgrim, I edit startup config files ;-)
20120504 21:38:12< Crendgrim> alright :)
20120504 21:38:16< Tasser> you got a diff?
20120504 21:38:26< Crendgrim> too complicated in this case
20120504 21:38:56< Crendgrim> open the _main.cfg, find the 3 [binary_path]...[/binary_path] blocks, remove the first and third occurence of it
20120504 21:39:03< Tasser> Crendgrim, emacs?
20120504 21:39:10< Tasser> diff-buffer-with-file ;-)
20120504 21:39:14< Crendgrim> then, in the second one, remove the "userdata/" part of it
20120504 21:39:32< Crendgrim> uh. I never really used emacs :/
20120504 21:40:03< Tasser> it's like the multitool in your do-it-yourself box, except way more powerful and complicated ;-)
20120504 21:40:18< Tasser> except it lacks a good editor :-(
20120504 21:40:47< Tasser> oke, removed the music
20120504 21:40:50 * Crendgrim is too spoiled by GUIs and mouse interaction :/
20120504 21:41:03< Tasser> it has mouse interaction ;-)
20120504 21:41:17< Crendgrim> well, you know what I mean.
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20120504 21:41:30< Tasser> likely
20120504 21:41:37< Crendgrim> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&p=527661#p527661
20120504 21:41:51< Crendgrim> then edit the second binary_path so that it looks like in the second code box
20120504 21:41:57< Crendgrim> I hope that makes it work..
20120504 21:42:20< Tasser>  case-sensitive ones (Mac and Linux).
20120504 21:42:24< Tasser> edit that one in
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20120504 21:42:51< Crendgrim> well..
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20120504 21:43:10< Crendgrim> then probably some weird guy will stand up, saying that there is some case-insensitive filesystem for Linux. :/
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20120504 21:43:40< Tasser> that one one uses
20120504 21:44:15< Tasser> now it works \o/
20120504 21:44:29< Crendgrim> nice :)
20120504 21:45:38< artisticdude> I can't for the life of me understand why M$ decided to use a case-insensitive filesystem, myself.
20120504 21:45:53< Tasser> it's better for usability
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20120504 21:46:11< artisticdude> That's true.
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20120504 21:46:26< artisticdude> But at the same time. I'd argue it teaches sloppy habits.
20120504 21:46:38< Crendgrim> it does.
20120504 21:46:43< Tasser> who cares, the less energy you need, the better
20120504 21:46:51< Crendgrim> but Linux does so as well by not requiring file endings :p
20120504 21:46:56< Tasser> see touchy/mousy interfaces :-)
20120504 21:47:06< Tasser> Crendgrim, .org ;-)
20120504 21:47:38 * Crendgrim very often finds himself calling a, say, PDF file "thisandthat" without a file ending, thus confusing all Windows users ("huh? How can I open that?")
20120504 21:47:41< Tasser> Crendgrim, unix doesn't so... and if you start using the terminal on a mac, everything breaks ^^
20120504 21:47:53< Crendgrim> and things got only worse when Windows decided to *hide* file endings.
20120504 21:48:02< Tasser> Crendgrim, everything without a file ending is a text file.
20120504 21:48:09< Crendgrim> Tasser: no.
20120504 21:48:18< Tasser> that's what I assume.
20120504 21:48:20< Crendgrim> the file ending doesn't say anything about its content
20120504 21:48:37< Tasser> that's convention - if it's something different, mark it.
20120504 21:48:45< Tasser> if it isn't a text file, there's still `file`
20120504 21:48:59< Crendgrim> that's what always confused me when Windows told me "hey, if you call this .jpg file differently, it can't be opened any more"
20120504 21:49:17< Crendgrim> (... yes, that's ages ago.)
20120504 21:49:21< artisticdude> Computers generally require exactness (most common computer programming languages are case-sensitive, for instance), so I just find it somewhat counter-intuitive to allow case-insensensitivity in the file system.
20120504 21:49:50 * Crendgrim loves how the discussion is somewhere completely different and artisticdude still speaks about case-sensitivity :p
20120504 21:50:11< artisticdude> Hey, it just takes me forever to type. :P
20120504 21:50:30< Crendgrim> ;)
20120504 21:50:45< Tasser> artisticdude, got a friend - when he starts typing, the sound feels like a freaking waterfall
20120504 21:50:57< artisticdude> My case-sensetive NatUre REFUSeS to AllOw me to Mess uP this Stuff.
20120504 21:51:07< Tasser> 20120504 21:50:55 error display: could not find image for report: 'units/undead/deathsquire.png~RC(magenta>5)'
20120504 21:51:09< Tasser> duh
20120504 21:51:10< artisticdude> *sensitive
20120504 21:51:56 * artisticdude eagerly awaits the day when the command-line has automatic spell-checker though. ^^
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20120504 21:52:23< artisticdude> That would be so annoying.
20120504 21:52:28< Crendgrim> units/undead/deathsquire.png should be there..
20120504 21:52:37< Crendgrim> artisticdude: then it will be done.
20120504 21:52:45< Tasser> 20120504 21:50:58 error display: could not find image for report: 'schedules/2morning1.png'
20120504 21:52:48< Tasser> :-/
20120504 21:52:51< Crendgrim> uh.
20120504 21:52:53< Crendgrim> :(
20120504 21:52:58< Crendgrim> didn't you say it worked?
20120504 21:53:07< Tasser> some worked :-(
20120504 21:53:46 * Crendgrim wonders whether that has something to do with caching...
20120504 21:55:18< Tasser> let's see
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20120504 22:00:00< Tasser> yep, you're right
20120504 22:05:45< Tasser> what are liminal units?
20120504 22:06:49< Crendgrim> they get a bonus on dawn and dusk IIRC
20120504 22:07:25< Tasser> nope
20120504 22:07:53< Crendgrim> then I don't know..
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20120504 22:17:52< loonycyborg> Tasser: They get a penalty on non-dusk non-dawn.
20120504 22:22:36< Tasser> huh - which units?
20120504 22:24:07< neofutur> if anyone is interested, I plan o arranging wesnoth games and possibly bet bitcoins on outcome on #bitcoin-gamers
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20120504 22:27:57< loonycyborg> Tasser: iirc there aren't any in mainline yet.
20120504 22:28:37< Crendgrim> ah, right. Not a bonus, but a penalty at other times.
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20120504 22:36:28< Tasser> loonycyborg, example?
20120504 22:37:40< loonycyborg> Huh? How can I give examples of units that don't exist?
20120504 22:37:51 * loonycyborg is confused
20120504 22:45:13< Tasser> oh ^^
20120504 22:45:19< Tasser> none yet developed?
20120504 22:46:04< loonycyborg> None I know. iirc they planned to make desert elves from utbs liminal
20120504 22:46:18< loonycyborg> But they still seem lawful..
20120504 22:46:57< loonycyborg> Better ask fendrin_. He's the guy who added the liminal alignment.
20120504 22:47:25< Crendgrim> there might be some in the Khalifate Era, at least that was planned at some time
20120504 22:53:28< fendrin_> Tasser: hi
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20120504 22:54:08< fendrin_> Tasser: noy is planning to make some units from the Khalifate faction liminal. You can download it as an addon from the server.
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