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20120603 05:53:37< CIA-88> alarantalara * r54362 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/03_Stirring_in_the_Night.cfg: add missing event name
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20120603 09:59:15< trademark_> !wesbot seen mordante
20120603 09:59:22< boucman> morning all
20120603 09:59:27< trademark_> hello
20120603 09:59:44< boucman> the_new_lipk: still havn't seen mordante, if you see him dont hesitate to ping him
20120603 10:00:00< the_new_lipk> ok
20120603 10:00:13< trademark_> wesbot, seen mordante
20120603 10:00:14< wesbot> trademark_: The person with the nick mordante last spoke 5d 11h ago. 5d 11h ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth-de with the message: Quit: Leaving
20120603 10:00:40< the_new_lipk> (he told he wouldn't have much free time this week)
20120603 10:00:46< boucman> ok
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20120603 10:01:15< ancestral> the_new_lipk: I believe I know how to solve my text formatting issues for http://wsnthb.in./
20120603 10:02:05< the_new_lipk> I'm ready to test :)
20120603 10:02:17< ancestral> the_new_lipk: How it works is there are actually two divs. The first is regular text (and is transparent), the second is what you actually see in color
20120603 10:03:09< ancestral> It's necessary, unfortunately, as I haven't figured out any way to edit a div and preserve its focus and caret position/selection
20120603 10:03:49< the_new_lipk> ...and the problem is that the first div is actually not transparent :)
20120603 10:04:07< ancestral> Which is odd, because it shows as transparent in every other browser…
20120603 10:04:15< ancestral> Chromium 18, huh?
20120603 10:04:20< the_new_lipk> yes
20120603 10:08:12< ancestral> the_new_lipk: Is it related to pasting in new text? If you just type stuff in the box is it transparent?
20120603 10:08:23< ancestral> Rather, no text double-up
20120603 10:09:06< the_new_lipk> typing seems to be fine
20120603 10:10:07< ancestral> Okay good. I have two issues: line breaks and formatting html elements
20120603 10:11:19< the_new_lipk> ...
20120603 10:11:31< the_new_lipk> now pasting works as well
20120603 10:11:55< ancestral> Webkit browsers (Safari, Chrome, Chromium, etc.) use divs for each line. Mozilla uses
s
20120603 10:12:16< ancestral> If you select just the end of the line, copy and paste, weird things happen
20120603 10:12:37< ancestral> And if you make an element it'll mess things up further ;-)
20120603 10:13:04< ancestral> But I can easily write some regex to clean that up
20120603 10:13:38< the_new_lipk> wow, I found the missing tabs. They're on the end of the previous lines
20120603 10:16:55< ancestral> When it comes to working on Wesnoth code, are people using much beyond C/C++/Lua/Python/WML?
20120603 10:17:34< ancestral> I imagine maybe a couple of Perl scripts probably hiding in utils
20120603 10:18:50< the_new_lipk> ancestral, the syntax highlighting is perfect now on Chromium but the editor itself has gone crazy
20120603 10:19:22< shadowm> ancestral: Depends on how you define "Wesnoth code"
20120603 10:20:16< ancestral> shadowm: Let me rephrase. Are there other programming or markup languages people are using while working on and contributing to the Wesnoth project?
20120603 10:20:21< shadowm> The engine is written in C++ and Lua (implementing an amount of core WML event actions). Content is written in WML and Lua. Anything else is a different deal.
20120603 10:20:36< ancestral> What I assumed, naturally
20120603 10:20:57< shadowm> Certain guy with a lot of weight decided tools used to mess with WML should be written in Python, but nobody stops you from doing whatever you want with your own add-on.
20120603 10:21:26< shadowm> And all of the Perl found in utils/ is irrelevant for most people.
20120603 10:21:29< boucman> ancestral: tools are usually in python, and I think the eclipse IDE is in java, but as shadowm said, it depends what you consider official
20120603 10:21:36< shadowm> Except wmlxgettext, but wmlxgettext is our magic blackbox.
20120603 10:22:22< the_new_lipk> ancestral, when I paste code, it appends a lot of whitespaces to the end of certain lines while it ignores the some characters on the end of other lines (mean I can't move the cursor to them)
20120603 10:22:23< shadowm> I for one have an add-on containing WML, Lua, and GNU Make, of all things.
20120603 10:23:24< ancestral> the_new_lipk: That is interesting
20120603 10:26:48< ancestral> the_new_lipk: It's with the scrolling
20120603 10:28:15< ancestral> Maybe I didn't push that update up
20120603 10:32:12< ancestral> the_new_lipk: Empty your cache, reload, and try it (if you'd like)
20120603 10:36:54< the_new_lipk> ancestral, almost perfect now. It works when I'm scrolling with mouse, but it's still buggy if I simply paste something long and it automatically scrolls to the end
20120603 10:39:31< ancestral> the_new_lipk: Fixed, I believe. Reload
20120603 10:41:58< the_new_lipk> ancestral: yeah, it works. Just one thing left then, the indentation characters are in the end of the line rather on the beginning :)
20120603 10:42:13< ancestral> Right, that I think I can solve in the morning
20120603 10:42:52< ancestral> Implement the shortener to save the bin to a URL, add a button… not much more to it than that
20120603 10:43:06< the_new_lipk> great
20120603 10:43:15< ancestral> Thanks for your help!
20120603 10:43:29< the_new_lipk> no problem
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20120603 16:56:26< mordante> servus
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20120603 17:08:52< CIA-88> alarantalara * r54363 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/04_Descending_into_Darkness.cfg: further clean up of scenario 4
20120603 17:15:23< the_new_lipk> mordante: nice to see you
20120603 17:16:02< mordante> hi the_new_lipk
20120603 17:16:16< the_new_lipk> did you have some time for my patch?
20120603 17:17:41< mordante> not yet, I hope to have time tomorrow evening
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20120603 17:19:16< the_new_lipk> ok
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20120603 17:46:55< CIA-88> alarantalara * r54364 /trunk/data/ (16 files in 3 dirs): remove unused terrain from UtBS and place images in images/scenery so anyone can use them
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20120603 18:03:10< ancestral> the_new_lipk: I think I've ironed out all the issues
20120603 18:03:32< ancestral> Firefox won't show the cursor, that's the only downside, and I can't think of a good workaround for that
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20120603 18:14:33< CIA-88> alarantalara * r54365 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/13_Epilogue.cfg: simplify epilogue
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20120603 18:40:30< trademark_> mordante, hi
20120603 18:40:37< trademark_> I've got several quick questions
20120603 18:41:28< trademark_> "VERSION A string determining the version. The string should formatted like: ‘x.y.z’ or ‘x.y.z-q’." I really don't understand what means the "-q".
20120603 18:42:57< trademark_> We only keep 1 or 2 version (for beta testing, for example) of a UMC, but a UMC have a unique ID and this ID change with version. I though it could break dependencies ?
20120603 18:44:30< trademark_> And finally, in umc.cfg, I don't understand the purpose of the translatable flag, and why "This flag can only be set if the language is American English." is required ?
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20120603 18:45:36< trademark_> I though that the synchronization would begin from the first upload and I didn't find any objection to this.
20120603 18:53:34< the_new_lipk> trademark_, the x.y.z-q format is usually used for hotfix versions (i.e. "I just uploaded the stuff and then noticed a typo which prevents it from starting")
20120603 18:54:21< the_new_lipk> but it's just a recommended formatting (just like x.y.z), so don't think that you have to care about it at all
20120603 18:54:59< trademark_> recommended or required ? I'm not sure about this..
20120603 18:55:20< trademark_> it would be better to have an uniform "versionning" pattern
20120603 18:55:43< the_new_lipk> recommended. See add-ons.wesnoth.org, there're a lot of exotical naming patterns too
20120603 18:56:31< the_new_lipk> addons.wesnoth.org, sorry
20120603 18:56:44< mordante> trademark_, a lot of software projects use x.y.z-q where -q is preX, betaX etc but it can also be empty
20120603 18:57:31< mordante> trademark_, you can use different languages as base language for a project and then translate it to other languages
20120603 18:57:34< trademark_> ok thanks for the answer.
20120603 18:58:04< mordante> Wesnoth decided (like most projects) on the English language, but even then you can use several flavours/dialects
20120603 18:58:26< trademark_> I'm not sure to understand why a specific language must be required.
20120603 18:58:58< mordante> that we want to have our translators only translate from English
20120603 18:59:35< mordante> if I have to translate something from English to Dutch I'll be able to, but if the language of the addon on French I can't translate it
20120603 19:00:15< trademark_> and if a user made a UMC in french but don't speak a word of english, he'll never be able to synchronized with wescamp ?
20120603 19:00:19< mordante> we allow people to upload French addons, but they should not be marked for translation
20120603 19:00:26< Espreon> Why not allow all of en?
20120603 19:02:09< mordante> trademark_, indeed (s)he'll never be able to use Wescamp for the addon but if the author can still upload translations manually into other languages
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20120603 19:12:27< trademark_> mordante, maybe I don't understand well the goal of wescamp, for me it's a platform where the translation are stored so every one can see the state of a translation and contribute. isn't it ?
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20120603 19:16:58< mordante> trademark_, yes that's the goal of Wescamp
20120603 19:19:22< trademark_> mordante, in my definition I don't see anywhere "but the base language must be english to allow wescamp synch"
20120603 19:19:35< trademark_> I guess I'm missing something
20120603 19:20:48< mordante> at the moment the Wescamp and translation statistics etc etc are all assuming the base language in American English
20120603 19:21:10< trademark_> mordante, I'm sorry but i got to go. If you can leave me a note, where you answer my second question (in the initial list), it would be really great.
20120603 19:21:15< trademark_> Thank you very much
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20120603 19:21:24< trademark_> good evening
20120603 19:23:41< mordante> trademark_, what question was that exactly?
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20120603 19:32:44< CIA-88> mordante * r54366 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/matrix.hpp:
20120603 19:32:44< CIA-88> Make an constructor explicit.
20120603 19:32:44< CIA-88> The change got lost while refactoring some code.
20120603 19:32:44< CIA-88> The code is used to experiment with a different approach of the
20120603 19:32:44< CIA-88> implementation of a listbox.
20120603 19:32:47< CIA-88> mordante * r54367 /trunk/src/gui/auxiliary/window_builder/ (pane.cpp pane.hpp):
20120603 19:32:48< CIA-88> Let the pane builder return a widget.
20120603 19:32:48< CIA-88> It returned a pane before due to some test code, this code is no longer
20120603 19:32:48< CIA-88> used to the returned widget will suffice.
20120603 19:32:48< CIA-88> The code is used to experiment with a different approach of the
20120603 19:32:48< CIA-88> implementation of a listbox.
20120603 19:32:49< CIA-88> mordante * r54368 /trunk/src/CMakeLists.txt:
20120603 19:32:49< CIA-88> Move map and map_location to the game library.
20120603 19:32:50< CIA-88> It's not required in the core library and moving so lets me experiment
20120603 19:32:50< CIA-88> with shared libraries.
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20120603 19:39:03< mordante> I'm off bye
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20120603 20:38:35< CIA-88> espreon * r54369 /trunk/ (10 files in 9 dirs): Updated the Japanese translation.
20120603 20:50:29< CIA-88> espreon * r54370 /branches/1.10/ (9 files in 8 dirs): Updated the Japanese translation.
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