--- Log opened Tue Jun 05 00:00:02 2012
20120605 00:00:26< bloodycoin_m> hmm.. but if I attach particle engine to particule, on subanimation change (active particule gets switched to another) that would invoke another effect creation.. and it enough, at worse, to only change effect type
20120605 00:01:44< bloodycoin_m> also, in what case can I see two subanimations playing at the same time ingame? magic attack/fire breath?
20120605 00:02:32< boucman> well, any projectile is a sub animation
20120605 00:02:49< boucman> and yes, but an animation change is a "rare" event
20120605 00:03:12< boucman> rare as in couple of seconds between two switches
20120605 00:04:36< bloodycoin_m> I am more concerned with effect transition from one to another here, than effectiveness :)
20120605 00:08:04< bloodycoin_m> nevermind, I think I know how to solve it
20120605 00:11:39< boucman> ok, so you investigate that tomorow, and send me a mail with any question you have, sounds like a plan ?
20120605 00:12:14< bloodycoin_m> ok
20120605 00:13:11< boucman> ok, I need to go to bed now, i'll try to be on IRC tomorow, but mail will be easier for me
20120605 00:13:13< boucman> see you
20120605 00:13:29< bloodycoin_m> sweet dreams :)
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20120605 06:12:37< shadowm> Espreon: the reason italic text occasionally looks like crap on the Help screen appears to be that the italic form is synthetized via freetype.
20120605 06:13:05< shadowm> DejaVu Sans has an oblique version and we don't include it. 'Outdated' renders quite differently in-game compared to KDE/Qt 4.
20120605 06:13:56< shadowm> In particular, its in-game kerning is completely messed up.
20120605 06:16:37< shadowm> http://shadowm.rewound.net/f/font-render-comp.png
20120605 06:18:40< shadowm> Of course, including all these would be ridiculous: http://pastebin.com/ZG9kTqeh
20120605 06:20:15< shadowm> (Although I for one think DejaVu Sans Mono would be better suited for lobby and chat log text, but that might be just me; IM and IRC clients appear to default to using variable-width fonts.)
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20120605 08:18:52< CIA-88> shadowmaster * r54374 /trunk/data/core/help.cfg: help: Update "Installing Add-ons" section in order to address the UI changes from r54336
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20120605 12:32:25< Espreon> shadowm: Not surprising, but who knows if we can make GUI1 use certain fonts for oblique, bold, and so forth?
20120605 12:32:34< Espreon> ... We probably can't.
20120605 12:32:42< Espreon> ... not in its current state.
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20120605 13:38:59< CIA-88> espreon * r54375 /trunk/src/serialization/parser.cpp: Improved invalid closing tag error message.
20120605 13:46:22< Espreon> Hmmm... I forgot to mention that the missing closing tag error message was also changed... oh well.
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20120605 15:22:41< Crab_> hi, Ayne
20120605 15:22:54< Ayne> hello
20120605 15:23:14< Crab_> was putting the carryover_info to game state good enough to solve the 'where to place it' problems?
20120605 15:24:32< Ayne> I haven't tried running it yet, will try that in a moment
20120605 15:24:45< Crab_> well, no need to hurry
20120605 15:25:01< Crab_> but, if there would be further trouble after you try that, tell me, I'll try to find some other solution
20120605 15:25:07< Crab_> but, it looks to me as it'll be a good place
20120605 15:26:06< Ayne> technically that means we're manipulating game state out of game again though, doesn't it?
20120605 15:26:59< Crab_> yes. the same game_state structure would have both in-game and out-of-game info
20120605 15:27:21< Crab_> but, we can just let it happen, and move all in-game info into some subfield of game state
20120605 15:27:57< Crab_> but, note that apart from that mixing of fields, it is not that bad
20120605 15:28:09< Crab_> since carryover_info will not be access from within the game
20120605 15:28:37< Ayne> ok
20120605 15:28:37< Crab_> and outside of game we will not access all the in-game fields of game state (except when we'll be collecting stuff in transitions)
20120605 15:29:12< Crab_> but you're correct, we'll have in-game info such as variables in it, and out-of-game info like carryover info and scenario classificators, etc
20120605 15:40:20< Ayne> it's giving me the expected results so far at least
20120605 15:40:50< Ayne> I can't seem to get the logs to work though. There's plenty of log commands in the code, but I don't get any output from them. Any ideas why that could be?
20120605 15:59:14< Crab_> you need to enable logs to see stuff other from errors, via command-line switches like --log-debug=FOO
20120605 15:59:29< Crab_> you can check the proper names in the defines used by the log system
20120605 16:02:29< Crab_> you can also use * to include all logs under a certain component separated by /, i.e. --log-debug='ai/*'
20120605 16:02:41< Crab_> (note the '', to prevent shell from expanding the star)
20120605 16:06:14< Crab_> for example, gamestatus.hpp has  	static lg::log_domain log_engine("engine");  	#define DBG_NG LOG_STREAM(debug, log_engine)
20120605 16:06:44< Crab_> so, --log--debug=engine will help to see stuff outputted via DBG_NG << or LOG_NG <<
20120605 16:07:07< Crab_> while --log-debug='engine,engine/*' will output both this and stuff from static lg::log_domain log_engine_tc("engine/team_construction");
20120605 16:07:28< Crab_> also note that some log domains are quite big (i.e. engine), they have lots of unrelated stuff in them
20120605 16:07:44< Crab_> you're welcome to add your own new log domains to code, if you want to see your logs separately
20120605 16:08:34< Ayne> ah ok, that explains it, I missed that bit
20120605 16:08:35< Ayne> thanks
20120605 16:09:27< Crab_> there's also --log-info='foo,bar,zzz/ff, ddd/*'
20120605 16:09:42< Crab_> and warnings and errors are displayed by default, without any switches
20120605 16:10:06< Crab_> to make a new log domain, just add a proper lg::log_domain static object and add some macroses to the .cpp file while you'
20120605 16:10:15< Crab_> *where you'll be using it
20120605 16:10:27< Crab_> you can have same log domain name in multiple files
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20120605 16:38:04< mattsc> Hi, Crab_.  Looking at the source, it looks like the highlighted weapon in the attack dialog is selected by the same function as what the AI uses to choose the best attack/defense weapon, but with a hard-coded aggression of 0.5.
20120605 16:38:09< mattsc> Is that correct?
20120605 16:38:18< Crab_> yes
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20120605 16:38:33< mattsc> Thanks.
20120605 16:38:39< Crab_> I am not sure about the exact hardcoded value, but the method is the same.
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20120605 16:39:15< mattsc> 			if (bc.better_attack(bc_vector[best], 0.5)) {
20120605 16:39:15< mattsc> 				// as some weapons can be hidden, i is not a valid index into the resulting vector
20120605 16:39:15< mattsc> 				best = bc_vector.size() - 1;
20120605 16:39:16< mattsc> 			}
20120605 16:39:52< mattsc> (oops).  Anyway, looks like 0.5 for harm_weight, and thus 0.5 for aggression as well
20120605 16:51:14< Crab_> ok, looks like this.
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20120605 17:09:34< Akihara> Crab_: hi :) no news concerning my patch?
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20120605 20:22:50< mordante> servus
20120605 20:29:54< vultraz> hey
20120605 20:31:27< mordante> hi vultraz 
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20120605 22:05:53< shadowm> Espreon: It'd be quite easy, I think.
20120605 22:06:10< shadowm> The problem is that including them is not a reasonable option.
20120605 22:06:35< Espreon> Why do you believe that?
20120605 22:06:45< shadowm> Because GUI1 uses the SDL_ttf path.
20120605 22:06:53< Espreon> ... go on...
20120605 22:07:21< shadowm> Also, this is not really a GUI1 thing, but a help system thing.
20120605 22:08:05< shadowm> When rendering italic text on the help system it could be made to use the font's oblique variation instead of generating one through whatever mechanism SDL_ttf/freetype provides for slanting.
20120605 22:09:05< shadowm> A font's variation is just another font.
20120605 22:13:05< Espreon> I guess.
20120605 22:13:14< shadowm> No, it is another font.
20120605 22:13:22< shadowm> It's even provided by a separate file.
20120605 22:13:27< Espreon> I knew that.
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20120605 23:21:53< boucman> hey all
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