--- Log opened Mon Jun 25 00:00:02 2012
20120625 00:07:54< ancestral> Espreon: Could make for a great dialogue where the player hear's a voice but can't tell who is saying it
20120625 00:08:21< Espreon> Exactly.
20120625 00:08:21< ancestral> Having an ominous shadowy portrait to go with it
20120625 00:09:48< noy> anybody ever loaded open transport tycoon on a mac?
20120625 00:10:37< ancestral> Yes
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20120625 00:23:46< Sapient> yo
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20120625 00:28:03< Sapient> I was testing a slow performance issue and got some very interesting findings
20120625 00:28:39< Sapient> If anyone can confirm the results of my timed trial posted in the Wesband thread, I would be interested to hear the outcome
20120625 00:29:28< Sapient> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=531983#p531983
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20120625 00:31:28< Sapient> unfortunately I am not setup to do a full performance analysis or even break to the code to see what is taking so much time
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20120625 01:48:42< jamit> Sapient: I don't have Wesband, but copying that WML (minus the [rouse_unit] tag) to my test scenario gave me filter times of 85-105 milliseconds.
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20120625 01:57:58< CIA-87> jamit * r54467 /trunk/src/actions.cpp: (log message trimmed)
20120625 01:57:58< CIA-87> Refectored move_unit()
20120625 01:57:58< CIA-87> This more object-oriented approach should be more robust in the face of
20120625 01:57:58< CIA-87> whatever future changes might come along. Plus, the code might be easier
20120625 01:57:58< CIA-87> to follow since the logic is broken into smaller pieces.
20120625 01:57:59< CIA-87> (There is some more streamlining to come. At this stage, very little was
20120625 01:58:00< CIA-87> changed with regards to the animation support that is required by the
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20120625 03:00:15< CIA-87> jamit * r54468 /trunk/src/replay.cpp: 
20120625 03:00:15< CIA-87> Have replays check for no visible unit at the end of movement, rather than no unit at all.
20120625 03:00:15< CIA-87> This is needed to support exit_hex events properly. (Replays have to store more than the
20120625 03:00:15< CIA-87> actual movement in order for the replay to fire a move-ending exit_hex event.)
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20120625 03:18:41< CIA-87> jamit * r54469 /trunk/src/mouse_events.cpp: 
20120625 03:18:41< CIA-87> When commands are disabled, ignore commands instead of converting them to hex selection.
20120625 03:18:41< CIA-87> Fixes bug #19734.
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20120625 03:34:06< CIA-87> jamit * r54470 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): Changelog entries for r54469.
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20120625 03:38:07< CIA-87> jamit * r54471 /branches/1.10/ (changelog players_changelog src/mouse_events.cpp): 
20120625 03:38:07< CIA-87> When commands are disabled, ignore commands instead of converting them to hex selection.
20120625 03:38:07< CIA-87> Fixes bug #19734.
20120625 03:38:07< CIA-87> (Backport of r54469.)
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20120625 04:33:57< CIA-87> jamit * r54472 /trunk/ (changelog src/actions.cpp): 
20120625 04:33:57< CIA-87> Keep the moving unit in the unit map.
20120625 04:33:57< CIA-87> Fixes bug #19788.
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20120625 17:29:29< mattsc> Hi, neph.  Crab told me to bug you about something.
20120625 17:29:56< mattsc> 20120621 22:24:21< mattsc> btw, crab_, I think the biggest problem of Lua AI is still that there is no get_attacks() function.  Is this in the pipeline, or has it been shelved for being too difficult?
20120625 17:30:03< mattsc> 20120621 22:33:50< crab_> mattsc: ping nephro about it
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20120625 17:50:43< neph> mattsc, hi
20120625 17:50:46< neph> we need to work on it
20120625 17:51:37< mattsc> Hi, neph.  Ok.  In my (selfish) opinion, this is more important than getting rid of having to define the engine.
20120625 17:51:39< neph> as I understood the attacks vectors are in a very weird state at the moment. Maybe, if you tell me what format do you want to see it in and what should it contain I might implement it myself
20120625 17:52:11< mattsc> neph: If you do the same as what Formula AI does, that would be perfect.
20120625 17:52:37< neph> alright
20120625 17:52:46< mattsc> For content, I mean.  For format, I don't really care, so whatever is most convenient for you.
20120625 17:52:48< neph> I will see it
20120625 17:53:02< mattsc> Thanks.
20120625 17:53:12< neph> as in format
20120625 17:53:18< neph> it's a user oriented structure
20120625 17:54:16< neph> so the convenience for the dev isn't taken in account :)
20120625 17:55:39< neph> mattsc, you'll have to think up some more urgent tasks for me, otherwise they'll fail me in midterm evals :D
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20120625 17:56:20< mattsc> neph: ok.  :D
20120625 17:56:23< neph> mattsc, also, check this page out, it should clear out any questions about the new syntax http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Luaai_new_syntax
20120625 17:56:48< mattsc> Will do
20120625 17:57:11< mattsc> neph: Since you mention it, here's something I noted over the weekend...
20120625 17:57:14< neph> it's real short and simple
20120625 17:57:36< mattsc> Hi, neph & crab_.  I would like to upgrade something from my wish list to a feature request, the second to last item here: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/InterfaceActionsWML#Formatting
20120625 17:57:42< mattsc> Being able to exclude units from the MTT phase.  I think I have actually found something that cannot be done cleanly without that option (unless I am missing something).
20120625 17:57:48< mattsc> I'd like to be able to move special units with a custom CA, but _after_ all other units have moved. 
20120625 17:57:54< mattsc> The only way I have found so far to do that is by taking all the MP away from those units before MTT, mark them as "not moved" yet somehow, then give them the MP back inside the custom CA.  But first that's cumbersome, and second it means that the orb first goes red, then goes green again which seems "untidy".
20120625 17:58:01< mattsc> Using ai_special=guardian doesn't work either, because the MTT CA takes those units' MP away.
20120625 17:58:55< mattsc> Actually, having that available for _all_ CAs would be really good.
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20120625 18:59:56< boucman> bloodycoin_m: ping ?
20120625 19:00:17< bloodycoin_m> boucman: mm?
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20120625 19:01:07< boucman> how is it sgoing :)
20120625 19:01:55< bloodycoin_m> I reimplemented effect-particle structure in lua, for faster iteration cycle...
20120625 19:02:14< bloodycoin_m> have few formulas, which could work I think.
20120625 19:02:29< boucman> wow
20120625 19:02:54< boucman> that's interesting, when do you think you can push something ? (even something that doesn't compile, so I can see the code)
20120625 19:02:56< bloodycoin_m> erm.. in lua, but not using wesnoth... it's stand-alone
20120625 19:03:01< boucman> oh, ok
20120625 19:03:25< boucman> that's still cool, it trains you for when we will do lua-made effects in wesnoth :P
20120625 19:03:56< bloodycoin_m> well, I do know lua pretty well... did a few games in it
20120625 19:04:43< boucman> oh yes, I had forgoten that
20120625 19:05:08< bloodycoin_m> well.. if you want to see code I have in lua, I can push that :)
20120625 19:06:00< boucman> no need to if it's just the algo, i'll see the c++ implementation :)
20120625 19:06:08< boucman> out of curiosity what sort of effects did you do ?
20120625 19:07:29< bloodycoin_m> I have expanding/contracting circle/ellipse, spiral, wavy particle fall down...
20120625 19:07:56< bloodycoin_m> I am trying to do fire, it's surprisingly harder, than I would expect..
20120625 19:09:53< boucman> yeah, water probably has simpler equations :)
20120625 19:10:29< bloodycoin_m> water? hard to imagine as a particle effect for me >.<
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20120625 19:17:08< boucman> to animate a waterfall, once we have terrain, not an emregency.
20120625 19:24:37< bloodycoin_m> hmmm my wavy fall could work... just need to modify it a bit :)
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20120625 20:12:35< mattsc> neph: So that means that each CA needs to be stored in a separate file, right?  Which isn't a problem, it's just different from what I am currently doing.
20120625 20:13:16< neph> mattsc, I can add a feature to be able to store multiple ca's in one file if you want
20120625 20:13:56< mattsc> Nah, I think it's good the way it is, just confirming.
20120625 20:14:25< neph> mattsc, note that the old syntax is still working fine
20120625 20:15:46< mattsc> neph, yes, I saw that.  I'm just thinking about easy ways of having my code use the new syntax, but also provide a version that works with 1.10.
20120625 20:16:07< mattsc> It should be possible by including the CA files into an engine definition file.
20120625 20:17:29< mattsc> That's for later though.  For now I am more concerned with get_attacks() and the MTT CA filter.  ;)
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20120625 23:43:20< mattsc> Hi, neph.  You still there?
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20120625 23:52:01< mattsc> neph: never mind, I figured it out.
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