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20120623 08:42:30< ancestral> Just got done trying to explain what GPL is (to me, anyway)
20120623 08:42:40< ancestral> Yes, GPL allows you to steal things! It's a good thing!
20120623 08:42:43< ancestral> :-P
20120623 08:42:55< ancestral> It sounds silly, but it's true.
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20120623 08:44:05< ancestral> It doesn't let you plagiarize things, but stealing isn't plagiarizing
20120623 08:44:37< shadowm> It's not stealing if it is permitted in the first place.
20120623 08:44:52< ancestral> Right!
20120623 08:46:35< ancestral> Depends on your definition of stealing. Stealing as in taking my property, OK. Stealing as in not permitted, then no
20120623 08:48:05< shadowm> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/steal
20120623 08:49:40< ancestral> 3: to steal or attempt to steal a base
20120623 08:49:48< ancestral> Clearly this is in reference to "all your base are belong to us"
20120623 08:49:52< ancestral> ;-)
20120623 08:50:03< shadowm> There is no relevant sense that does not involve the lack of permission to engage in the act.
20120623 08:50:31< shadowm> So it's not stealing if it is permitted in the first place, as I said.
20120623 08:51:32< ancestral> You can "steal" ideas
20120623 08:51:49< shadowm> Borrow.
20120623 08:51:52< ancestral> Hehe
20120623 08:51:59< ancestral> Borrow means you intend to return them
20120623 08:52:26< shadowm> Okay, imitate, copy, replicate, mimic, take inspiration from, etc.
20120623 08:52:32< ancestral> shadowm: Perhaps a better term is "lend" rather than "steal"
20120623 08:52:42< ancestral> Lend to another
20120623 08:53:08< shadowm> That has to be done willingly by the author of the idea.
20120623 08:53:14< ancestral> Sure
20120623 08:53:28< ancestral> Well, you license your work as GPL, you're giving permission
20120623 08:53:38< ancestral> To something that otherwise may be considered stealing
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20120623 08:54:16< zookeeper> it wouldn't.
20120623 08:54:28< zookeeper> except by silly people.
20120623 08:54:57< ancestral> If your work is silly then probably :-P
20120623 08:55:17< zookeeper> what
20120623 08:56:24< ancestral> If I don't license my work as GPL, and instead I place a copyright on it
20120623 08:56:56< ancestral> And someone uses it without permission, I might consider that stealing
20120623 08:57:26< shadowm> GPL doesn't preclude copyright by any means.
20120623 08:57:46< zookeeper> ancestral, only if you're silly.
20120623 08:57:53< ancestral> Then ignore the copyright part
20120623 08:59:24< ancestral> If I say you can have some of my jellybeans, I'm giving you permission
20120623 08:59:44< ancestral> If instead I don't say anything, and you take some, I might consider that stealing my jellybeans
20120623 09:01:20< zookeeper> everyone and their mom knows why that's an invalid analogy
20120623 09:02:02< ancestral> I'm not everyone and I don't think my mom knows why, so your argument is invalid
20120623 09:02:36< ancestral> Hehe, love thet meme
20120623 09:02:38< ancestral> *that
20120623 09:04:19< shadowm> This is incredibly silly.
20120623 09:04:35< ancestral> There's that word again
20120623 09:04:45< Espreon> ...
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20120623 09:05:24< ancestral> I don't think my point is silly.
20120623 09:06:07< shadowm> Who cares about your point. I was refering to the whole exchange.
20120623 09:06:37< shadowm> The point drowned long ago in that swamp of silliness.
20120623 09:07:05< ancestral> My jellybean analogy wasn't silly either.
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