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Is it "quitting the battle, transferring control to an AI" or "keeping the side, just letting the bot make my moves"? 20120703 08:46:57< the_new_lipk> I'm asking this because the source code is currently incosistent in this aspect; the client uses the former approach, but not the server. 20120703 08:47:19-!- neXyon [~neXyon@85-127-226-248.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 09:12:10-!- anakayub [~anakayub@202.184.245.35] has quit [Quit: anakayub] 20120703 09:32:55-!- anakayub [~anakayub@202.184.245.35] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 09:36:51< AI0867> the_new_lipk: can the player not take back control? 20120703 09:37:18-!- anakayub [~anakayub@202.184.245.35] has quit [Client Quit] 20120703 09:37:49< the_new_lipk> AI0867: they can, with ":undroid" 20120703 09:47:02-!- {V} [~V@139-79-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20120703 09:47:57-!- {V} [~V@139-79-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 09:57:09< AI0867> the_new_lipk: then I don't quite see how it's equivalent to "quitting" according to the client 20120703 10:00:09< the_new_lipk> AI0867: look at team.cpp:637. is_observer() returns false only if there's a 'human' side. Droided sides are 'human_ai', thus if you droid your side(s), you become an observer. 20120703 10:00:49< the_new_lipk> (On your client. The other clients will still recognize you as the owner of the side) 20120703 10:01:40< the_new_lipk> Of course all this talk is related to #19862. 20120703 10:07:31-!- neph [~neph@80.233.231.12] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 10:10:17< the_new_lipk> ...the more I think about this the more confident I become that the answer is version 2. Actually, the client is mostly built in that spirit as well, besides that missing '|| t.is_human_ai()'. 20120703 10:11:54< AI0867> yeah, thsoe functions are a bit egocentric 20120703 10:12:14< zookeeper> well, yes, "keeping the side, just letting the bot make my moves" is what it's supposed to be (which doesn't mean that some code somewhere doesn't assume otherwise) 20120703 10:12:16< AI0867> or just plain inconsistent 20120703 10:12:29< AI0867> studying the svn history might reveal more 20120703 10:18:15-!- neXyon [~neXyon@85-127-226-248.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: bye] 20120703 10:19:04< the_new_lipk> Oh, cool. Modifying is_observer() eliminates the bug. Could someone handle that, please? 20120703 10:19:42< the_new_lipk> It's only one line, and I can't build patches now anyways. 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I both figured out how to diff only certain files and found some other things to fix nearby, so I'll send a patch after all. 20120703 16:27:56-!- mattsc [~mattsc@fw.hia.nrc.ca] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 16:30:16< Akihara> HI mordante, Crab_, evryone :) I would like to apologize concerning my absence... i had exams, and recently some big problems with my internet connection... sorry bout that! 20120703 16:31:35< the_new_lipk> hi Akihara 20120703 16:31:49-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20120703 16:45:39-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.221] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 16:55:03-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 16:55:27< mattsc> neph: I tested the new [add_ai_behavior] tag with and without the custom id. Also tried both adding and removing BCAs. It all seems to work. 20120703 16:56:00-!- noy_ [~Noy@s207-81-152-50.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 16:56:00-!- noy_ [~Noy@s207-81-152-50.bc.hsia.telus.net] has quit [Changing host] 20120703 16:56:00-!- noy_ [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 16:56:06< CIA-87> ejls * r54560 /trunk/src/whiteboard/ (5 files): Replacing some uses of wb::enable_visit_all with wb::for_each_action. 20120703 16:56:52-!- the_new_lipk [~lipk@apn-130-43-195-174.vodafone.hu] has quit [Quit: 'd bye] 20120703 16:57:01-!- the_new_lipk [~lipk@apn-130-43-195-174.vodafone.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 16:59:30-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20120703 16:59:30-!- noy_ is now known as noy 20120703 17:05:29-!- horon [~horon@nttkyo331099.tkyo.nt.ngn2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20120703 17:24:06< neph> ok, thanks a lot mattsc 20120703 17:28:52-!- the_new_lipk [~lipk@apn-130-43-195-174.vodafone.hu] has quit [Quit: 'd bye] 20120703 18:01:21-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-078-042-163-105.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 18:03:31< anonymissimus> Espreon: can I ask you some language style question ? When referring to wesnoth units, are they male/female persons or rather neutral; would you say "Aour leader is the unit which has the crown" or "Your leader is the unit who has the crown" ? 20120703 18:05:05-!- EdB [~edb@tss37-1-89-82-194-231.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 18:08:34-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl54020A96.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20120703 18:15:44-!- timotei [~timotei@188.24.2.25] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 18:15:44-!- timotei [~timotei@188.24.2.25] has quit [Changing host] 20120703 18:15:44-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 18:29:44-!- EdB [~edb@tss37-1-89-82-194-231.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20120703 18:31:42-!- EdB [~edb@tss37-1-89-82-194-231.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 18:34:27-!- EdB [~edb@tss37-1-89-82-194-231.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Client Quit] 20120703 18:37:21< Espreon> anonymissimus: If the unit can ever be just a thing, take the soulless approach. 20120703 18:37:32< Espreon> *thing, animal, or whatever 20120703 18:37:41< Espreon> Otherwise, do whatever you wish. 20120703 18:48:51-!- neXyon_ is now known as neXyon 20120703 19:00:28-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.114.134.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 19:31:12-!- neph [~neph@80.233.231.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20120703 19:31:28-!- the_new_lipk [~lipk@apn-151-0-94-244.vodafone.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 19:31:36-!- the_new_lipk [~lipk@apn-151-0-94-244.vodafone.hu] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20120703 19:33:46-!- lipkab [~lipk@apn-151-0-94-244.vodafone.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 19:36:02< lipkab> I'm pleased to announce that I ditched my old, long and horrendously stupid nick for a new, short, and intelligent one which also resembles my forum nick. 20120703 19:36:39< lipkab> In case you wonder, I was known as the_new_lipk before. 20120703 19:36:58-!- lipkab [~lipk@apn-151-0-94-244.vodafone.hu] has quit [Client Quit] 20120703 19:41:35-!- neph [~neph@80.233.231.12] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 19:45:34-!- neXyon [~neXyon@85-127-226-248.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: bye] 20120703 19:49:51-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 179 bugs, 338 feature requests, 17 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! 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21:17:02< CIA-87> mordante * r54561 /trunk/CMakeLists.txt: 20120703 21:17:02< CIA-87> Disable a new GCC-4.8 warning. 20120703 21:17:02< CIA-87> If triggers in an external C header (png.h). 20120703 21:18:56< CIA-87> mordante * r54562 /branches/1.10/CMakeLists.txt: 20120703 21:18:56< CIA-87> Disable a new GCC-4.8 warning. 20120703 21:18:56< CIA-87> If triggers in an external C header (png.h). 20120703 21:18:56< CIA-87> Also copies the check_compiler_has_flag CMake macro from trunk. 20120703 21:25:54< mordante> I'm off night 20120703 21:26:00-!- mordante [~mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20120703 21:59:07-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20120703 22:00:35-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 22:08:09-!- Samual [~Samual@c-71-195-88-69.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120703 22:08:09-!- Samual [~Samual@c-71-195-88-69.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit 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