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20120712 00:00:05< shadowm> ancestral: Okay fendrin, so will you explain now why there's a Side button on the top bar that does nothing atm?
20120712 00:00:58< shadowm> You should also fix all those actions with mixed case so they use title case instead.
20120712 00:04:31< boucman> ok
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20120712 00:53:54< anonymissimus> mattsc: nice job; seeing an AI which paly defensively when it should :)
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20120712 01:04:33< mattsc> anonymissimus: thanks :)  
20120712 01:04:57< mattsc> still a lot of work to be don on it though
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20120712 02:54:22< CIA-87> alarantalara * r54687 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: A leaderless side has no need for a flag variant
20120712 03:00:48< CIA-87> alarantalara * r54688 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: Get rid of useless placeholder unit and manually place units to achieve effect desired in comment
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20120712 03:07:34< CIA-87> alarantalara * r54689 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: Read unit variables rather than branching to identify name and race of ally
20120712 03:15:06< CIA-87> alarantalara * r54690 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: Remove some more variables through self removing events
20120712 03:22:03< CIA-87> alarantalara * r54691 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: Remove stop_flooding variable in the same manner
20120712 03:40:57< CIA-87> alarantalara * r54692 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: Use on difficulty to simplify human scouts appearance and get rid of some useless redraws
20120712 04:00:11< CIA-87> alarantalara * r54693 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: Refactor some duplicate WML
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20120712 04:23:06< CIA-87> alarantalara * r54694 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: Use [harm_unit] instead of an [object] + [store_unit] to damage and poison the unit. As a bonus, the damage now gets floating text.
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20120712 04:33:07< CIA-87> alarantalara * r54695 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: 
20120712 04:33:07< CIA-87> Move cloaked figure to center of cave to make it harder to wall off and walk around
20120712 04:33:07< CIA-87> Also get rid of the store location and switch to map_passable placement to avoid location issues
20120712 04:34:55< CIA-87> alarantalara * r54696 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: Move cloaked figure again, to 10,19 in accordance with comment. Also remove that comment, since the location is now clear from the WML
20120712 04:43:09< CIA-87> alarantalara * r54697 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: Fancy new AI does not use goto_x/goto_y
20120712 04:53:34< CIA-87> alarantalara * r54698 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/ (16 files in 2 dirs): Convert UtBS to new map format.
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20120712 05:15:19< CIA-87> alarantalara * r54700 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/_main.cfg: Update macro comment
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20120712 09:34:59< vultraz> zookeeper: not sure if you're the person to buzz, but while looking at bug #19927 I found that the merfolk village (^Vm) doesn't seem to be like the other villages. Eg, the other says Name(Village, ), and ^Vm just says Name()
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20120712 09:36:32< zookeeper> vultraz, does the village overlay terrain suffer from that too?
20120712 09:37:13< vultraz> zookeeper: yes
20120712 09:37:38< zookeeper> mmkay. then it must be because they both have simply aliasof=_bas
20120712 09:40:29< zookeeper> anyway... _where_ exactly does it "say" that?
20120712 09:42:17< zookeeper> right, found it
20120712 09:42:19< vultraz> zookeeper: when you hover over said terrain in the editor sidebar or when it's on the map (the latter of which is why the guy filed a bug report)
20120712 09:42:36< zookeeper> well... technically it's correct, as it's _not_ aliasing to village
20120712 09:42:45< zookeeper> of course it's still a village
20120712 09:43:22< zookeeper> but the fact that it's a village is already reflected in the terrain name
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20120712 09:51:03< zookeeper> vultraz, added a comment. will let someone else to decide what to do with the report...
20120712 09:54:13< vultraz> k :)
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20120712 18:58:04< mordante> servus
20120712 18:58:16< mordante> Akihara, around?
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20120712 19:23:59< mordante> anonymissimus, can you test this patch for MSVC http://paste.debian.net/178794/ ?
20120712 19:44:55< Akihara> mordante: yes
20120712 19:45:17< mordante> Akihara, good :-) did you get my email?
20120712 19:45:49< Akihara> mordante: not yet, i just came back :P 
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20120712 20:08:18< anonymissimus> mordante: is that supposed to solve the compiler errors ? I don't expect to be in my windows system soon, so not now
20120712 20:08:23< CIA-87> mordante * r54701 /trunk/ (CMakeLists.txt INSTALL changelog): 
20120712 20:08:23< CIA-87> Adds ENABLE_PEDANTIC_COMPILATION CMake option.
20120712 20:08:23< CIA-87> The option is disabled by default. More flags will be added after
20120712 20:08:23< CIA-87> testing with several compilers.
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20120712 20:11:36< mordante> anonymissimus, yes it disables the new code when compiling with MSVC
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20120712 20:18:12< mattsc> Hi, neph_ 
20120712 20:19:47< mattsc> When I last tested your new external CA method, the ai table was not available in human-player mode for debugging.  Has that been resolved?
20120712 20:27:27< anonymissimus> mordante: okay, check the logs for my reply then
20120712 20:28:28< anonymissimus> mordante: using -Wall wiht MSVC isn't sensible it is said; it throws lots of warnings for system headers and such, but /W4 is
20120712 20:29:30< mordante> anonymissimus, yeah I read it, and I want to add the /W4 later again, but first I want to test whether this fixes the initial issue
20120712 20:34:20< neph_> mattsc, well, that's the correct behaviour
20120712 20:35:02< mattsc> neph_: my recollection is that when we discussed this with Crab, that it would be ok to have it available in debug mode
20120712 20:35:21< mattsc> neph_: it needs to be accessible somehow, or testing will be very much harder
20120712 20:35:41< neph_> mattsc, it should be fairly easy to add... I just don't know what path do your scripts take, when you try to launch them in human-player mode
20120712 20:35:52< timotei> Hmm, I think I forgot, but how does one read the wesnoth.6 file?
20120712 20:36:12< mattsc> neph_: sorry, I don't understand what you mean
20120712 20:38:45< anonymissimus> timotei: perhaps you can test mordante's patch above ? http://paste.debian.net/178794/ 
20120712 20:43:54< mattsc> neph_: I have to be off, so let me just summarize the kind of functionality that's needed:
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20120712 20:44:56< timotei> If I do the wesnoth.6 reading with groff, I get this: ERROR:(wesnoth.6) input line 16:.TH without .TS H
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20120712 20:45:44< mordante> timotei, what about man
20120712 20:45:50< mattsc> When debugging the AI, one needs to be able to be in control of a side in human (and debug) mode, move a unit around, use the right-click option to see what the AI code does, move another unit, or add a unit (in debug mode), or change its moves/HP/..., right-click again, etc...
20120712 20:45:54< timotei> Nope. It tells me is not installed
20120712 20:45:55< timotei> :-?
20120712 20:46:10< mattsc> All of that without having to reload
20120712 20:47:05< mattsc> How that is accomplished (and whether it requires additional code or setup), I really don't care much about, but if it is not available, then things like the work I am currently doing become so tedious that they are essentially impossible.
20120712 20:47:57< mattsc> So anything you can do in this direction for all those great new features would be my appreciated.  :)  bbl.
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20120712 20:49:19< timotei> mordante: Ok. On linux it works fine. I've tried man in windows but it won't work as intended :D
20120712 20:52:54< mordante> ah ok, no idea on Windows
20120712 20:58:36< timotei> Is the man doc intended to mirror the information on the wiki?
20120712 20:58:52< timotei> For example I am now fixing the --preprocess* commands, and on the wiki there is much information
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20120712 21:13:27< mordante> I don't know
20120712 21:16:05< loonycyborg> timotei: Generally man pages don't go much beyond giving short description of what the command does and documenting all args.
20120712 21:16:19< timotei> I see.
20120712 21:16:20< timotei> OK
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20120712 22:34:14< CIA-87> ivanovic * r54702 /branches/1.10/po/wesnoth-dw/el.po: updated Greek translation
20120712 22:34:17< CIA-87> ivanovic * r54703 /trunk/po/wesnoth-dw/el.po: updated Greek translation
20120712 22:51:26< timotei> mordante: I think I found the problem
20120712 22:51:46< timotei> mordante: settings.cpp: 467. You add a const ref string to an array
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20120712 22:52:31< mordante> good to know I have a problem :-P
20120712 22:52:46< timotei> I think removing the const and ref might solve it.
20120712 22:52:50< timotei> Let me test it.
20120712 22:54:17< mordante> what is the exact problem?
20120712 22:57:57< timotei> mordante: I get some string exception.
20120712 22:59:08< mordante> ah ok, I'm quite sure the code is technically fine
20120712 22:59:31< mordante> so if it solves the issue, please document why you changed it
20120712 22:59:50< mordante> cppcheck will warn it's a good idea to use a const ref ;-)
20120712 23:00:03< shadowm> "some string exception". :/
20120712 23:00:37< timotei> shadowm: I quit the debugger so I can't tell the exact exception.
20120712 23:00:45< timotei> And I'm compiling now so I can't start it yet again.
20120712 23:00:56< mordante> I'm off now, night
20120712 23:01:02< timotei> night mordante 
20120712 23:01:02< shadowm> What a great idea.
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20120712 23:05:39< anonymissimus> timotei: did you try with VC10 ? and I don't get that problem...
20120712 23:05:49< timotei> anonymissimus: VC9 release
20120712 23:06:10< timotei> I've added the /DEBUG flag to the linker so I can see where exactly it crashes.
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20120712 23:06:30< timotei> Modified a header=> full solution recompilation...:|
20120712 23:06:46< timotei> I need a faster PC, or actually a ssd
20120712 23:07:34< anonymissimus> I've been told SSDs shouldn't be used with XP, so I can't...and have no newer windows
20120712 23:08:03< anonymissimus> but they're said to be the biggest speedup for MSVC compilation
20120712 23:08:18< timotei> SSD are the biggest speedup in almost everything ȘD
20120712 23:08:19< timotei> :D
20120712 23:08:28< anonymissimus> more important that CPU since it's so I/O intensive
20120712 23:08:33< timotei> Provided that you have like 4 GB of memory and a good COU
20120712 23:09:10< timotei> What now? Linking errors?!
20120712 23:09:20< timotei> Nvm, I'll try tomorrow.
20120712 23:09:21< timotei> Night
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20120712 23:10:01< anonymissimus> timotei: in case that was the cmake generated project, it's currently broken...
20120712 23:10:13< anonymissimus> that is, there are linker errors
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