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20120726 00:22:54< Alarantalara> Regarding Gatekeeper, since someone asked. I am not a member of the Mac developer program so cannot sign the binary.
20120726 00:24:24< Alarantalara> If signing it is considered a good thing to do, then it is probably time to start looking for a new OS X packager.
20120726 00:24:53< JeffM> yeah we don't have one on bzflag ether, and I was wondering what you guys were going to do cus you were kinda similar to us :)
20120726 00:25:18< JeffM> we don't even build with the curent xcode
20120726 00:25:54< JeffM> sucks that you have to use non free tools and spend 100$ a year just to not be flagged as malware
20120726 00:26:58< Alarantalara> You can sign binaries not built with the latest version of Xcode (they provide a separate tool), but that doesn't help with the yearly fee.
20120726 00:27:11< JeffM> ahh
20120726 00:27:19< JeffM> well that's at least something
20120726 00:27:29< JeffM> we only build with like xcode 3
20120726 00:28:18< JeffM> someone should get a group of open source devs together and get a single dev account and just sign a bunch of apps, make everyone chip in 5$
20120726 00:28:43< JeffM> tho then if one app really is malware all apps are pulled
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20120726 05:25:06< ancestral> Preliminarily, Wesnoth 10.0.3 seems to work fine with OS X 10.8
20120726 05:25:41< ancestral> I haven't noticed anything unusual, but I'll chime in if something comes up
20120726 05:28:41< ancestral> Here lies Konrad, the Ignoramus. Killed by Quintain on level 0.
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20120726 17:18:11< CIA-87> ayne * r54849 /trunk/src/ (27 files in 5 dirs): Moved in-game data to make sure it can't be accessed out of game
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20120726 17:20:03< Crab_> Ayne: ok, so it's committed. thanks.
20120726 17:21:48< Espreon> What... was that?
20120726 17:22:30< Crab_> Espreon: just some refactorings to put some pieces of code to better places.
20120726 17:23:00< Espreon> Hmmm, I see.
20120726 17:23:35< Crab_> Espreon: as the next step, the savegame format would be slightly changed, which would, hopefully, allow us to enable some features like 'restart in earlier difficulty level' in August.
20120726 17:23:44< Espreon> Well, I really don't, but I'll never understand all these magicks and pixie-dust-driven wonders.
20120726 17:24:00< Espreon> Hmmmm, that I think I see.
20120726 17:24:05< Crab_> it's possible that some old saves were broken by this, but we'd expect to fix this, allowing them to load
20120726 17:24:49< Crab_> also, this opens the way to pushing the carryover logic to lua (allowing people to override it and mix it with various dialogs)
20120726 17:25:01< Crab_> but that part is not in GSOC
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20120726 17:26:24< Espreon> I see, I see.
20120726 17:26:36< Espreon> I'll just wait for something sparkly to appear.
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20120726 17:27:22< Espreon> Thank you for telling me about all that.
20120726 17:28:44< Espreon> Now, let's see if I can still compile.
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20120726 17:39:55< Espreon> And it does. Huzzah.
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20120726 18:20:36< Espreon> Crab_: It looks like custom menu items get broken after reloading saves.
20120726 18:21:01< Crab_> Espreon: can you provide a testcase or how-to-reproduce to Ayne?
20120726 18:21:08< Espreon> The text disappears and the icon gets set to the default star icon.
20120726 18:21:11< Espreon> Hmmm...
20120726 18:21:13< Espreon> Sigh...
20120726 18:21:25< Espreon> Sure.
20120726 18:21:40< Crab_> Espreon: it's probably easy to fix; if it'll not be fixed reasonably shortly, ping me.
20120726 18:21:48< Espreon> Very well.
20120726 18:21:51< Crab_> Espreon: but a test case or how-to-reproduce would be welcome.
20120726 18:22:10< Espreon> Of course.
20120726 18:23:44< Crab_> I've written her a letter about that bug.
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20120726 20:01:07< fendrin> hi Crab_
20120726 20:01:14< Crab_> hi, fendrin
20120726 20:01:24< fendrin> Crab_: do you have some time?
20120726 20:01:32< Crab_> yes
20120726 20:02:00< fendrin> Crab_: Is there someone working on the MP campaign support?
20120726 20:02:50< Crab_> We have a related project, which focuses more on the infrastructure. It would be useful in MP campaign context.
20120726 20:03:41< Crab_> i.e., we should be able to change the difficulties on the fly (between scenarios) by September (not as part of GSOC, but based on the code that I'll be able to write using the results of GSOC)
20120726 20:04:02< Crab_> and we'll (eventually) remove most of the bugs related to saves/loads/replays/carryover.
20120726 20:04:08< fendrin> Crab_: Well, is it ready for enabling the MP port of LoW again?
20120726 20:04:32< Crab_> not yet. I suggest asking again mid-august.
20120726 20:04:49< Crab_> We should be able to make difficulty selection work with just 1 scenario
20120726 20:05:07< Crab_> and, eventually, we'll be able to change the numbers of players mid-campaign more easily.
20120726 20:06:20< fendrin> Crab_: That means no LoW MP in 1.12.
20120726 20:06:29< Crab_> when is the release data for 1.12 ?
20120726 20:07:04< fendrin> Well, Ivanovic wanted to return to the shorter release cycle, around xmas most likely.
20120726 20:09:18< Ivanovic> there is no release plan yet
20120726 20:09:27< Ivanovic> but around xmas would be the plan
20120726 20:09:31< Crab_> xmas is in December, seems like there's enough time to make things before winter freezes everything with a cold string/feature freeze:)
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20120726 20:35:36< CIA-87> espreon * r54850 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/02_Across_the_Harsh_Sands.cfg: More tidying up with ON_DIFFICULTY.
20120726 20:40:14< CIA-87> espreon * r54851 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/02_Across_the_Harsh_Sands.cfg: Use a comma-separated list of keys in a certain [scroll_to] block.
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