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Ayne: yes 20120727 16:16:08-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20120727 16:16:26< Ayne> I was just wondering what information the snapshot should contain? 20120727 16:16:53< Ayne> And should replay_start have all the same information? At the moment it's only the starting position 20120727 16:17:35< Crab_> I think that we would decrease the number of bugs if replay starts from a snapshot. 20120727 16:18:03< Crab_> i.e. if replay_start only contains the starting position, we're forced to get other stuff like variables from somewhere 20120727 16:20:37< Crab_> snapshot should contain everything in-game and out-of-game 20120727 16:21:14< Crab_> or, you can make snapshot only contain in-game info 20120727 16:21:20< Crab_> then, out-of-game would be separate 20120727 16:21:37< Ayne> so I'll save everything in gamestate except for carryover_sides and gamedata in snapshot and the same in replay_start? 20120727 16:22:11< Crab_> same in replay_start. yet, why do you not want to include gamedata in the snapshot? 20120727 16:23:09< Crab_> for carryover_sides it probably makes sense to be separate, as carryover_sides should be the same between replay_start and snapshot, so we can avoid duplication if we store it separately. 20120727 16:23:32< Ayne> it's where the in-game data is, so it should be in snapshot, right? 20120727 16:23:36< Crab_> right 20120727 16:24:42< Crab_> so, to load a game the game would do snapshot_from_save => gamedata, and out_of_game_info_from_save => carryover_sides 20120727 16:25:01< Ayne> ah, sorry, what I meant was that gamestate and gamedata should be in snapshot, just not carryover_sides, but I worded it badly 20120727 16:25:13< Crab_> ok 20120727 16:25:22< Crab_> And, to load a replay the game would do replay_start_from_save => gamedata, and out_of_game_info_from_save => carryover_sides 20120727 16:25:29< Crab_> and then replay the replay steps from save 20120727 16:26:31< Ayne> ok 20120727 16:26:37< Crab_> to load a start of scenario save, the game would do out_of_game_info_from_save => carryover_sides, and init the level (with next scenario taken from end_game_data of the previous scenario, as usual) 20120727 16:27:00-!- timotei21 [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20120727 16:27:47< Crab_> and something new here: to load a mid-level save as a start-of-scenario-save (possibly with different difficulty level choice), the game would do start_of_scenario_out_of_game_info_from_save => carryover_sides, [change the difficulty level if wanted] and init the level as normal. 20120727 16:28:09< Crab_> for that to work, we need 2 copies of carryover_info in game_state and save 20120727 16:28:28< Crab_> s/carryover_info/carryover_sides 20120727 16:28:53< Crab_> but the code is not duplicated, thanks to your work, carryover_sides is separate and we can just load carryover_sides from whatever config we want. 20120727 16:39:50-!- mattsc [~mattsc@fw.hia.nrc.ca] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120727 17:03:21-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.221] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20120727 17:10:39< vultraz> fendrin: do you need a updated village button with the current village icon? 20120727 17:30:08< CIA-87> vultraz * r54855 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