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20120804 04:13:49< Alarantalara> bloodycoin: from the point of view of someone who has used terrain WML extensively (including for semi-complicated animated effects), I'd like to mention that I really like boucman's suggestion of adding an effect to a tile rule.
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20120804 04:14:43< Sapient> yo Alarantalara 
20120804 04:14:51< Alarantalara> hello
20120804 04:15:00< Sapient> I liked your find_in optimization
20120804 04:15:40< Alarantalara> I noticed it was slow when I tried using it in UtBS and wondered why
20120804 04:15:43< Sapient> I was curious why you used the test_loc instead of just anonymously constructing a location in the function call, though
20120804 04:17:01< Alarantalara> No good reason. I did consider testing to see if the location was on the map, but eventually decided against it.
20120804 04:18:38< Sapient> ah, well it's been a while since I studied the finer points of C++, but I believe that you could potentially eliminate a copy operation for some compilers by not creating that local
20120804 04:19:33< Alarantalara> Feel free to change it. I haven't done serious C++ writing in so long that I'm sure I'll miss things that should be obvious.
20120804 04:20:01< Sapient> I am reluctant to make any changes because I can't compile at the moment
20120804 04:20:34< Sapient> anyway, mainly I wanted to thank you for spotting that
20120804 04:28:55< Sapient> yes, a little googling suggests that copy elision is more likely with rvalues, e.g. anonymous temporaries
20120804 04:29:27< Sapient> have fun, cya later
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20120804 10:28:32< timotei> Now that's really nice: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/08/valves-optimizations-make-linux-port-of-l4d2-outperform-windows-version/
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20120804 11:00:58< timotei> Ivanovic: hello
20120804 11:01:05< Ivanovic> hi timotei
20120804 11:01:12< timotei> Ivanovic: You gave me once a website where there was a list with the prices in online germany shops
20120804 11:01:21< timotei> But I can't find it in my local logs :(
20120804 11:01:27< Ivanovic> http://geizhals.at/de
20120804 11:01:32< timotei> Thanks :)
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20120804 11:09:02< Necrosporus> Is it possible to make a mod where all players can move simultaneously?
20120804 11:12:19< Ivanovic> i don't think so because the move one player does can have an impact of where the other players can move
20120804 11:16:32< Necrosporus> Ok, for fellow players?
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20120804 12:08:59< vultraz> Necrosporus: you mean, like only 1 unit can move at a time, but all allied sides could move at once?
20120804 12:13:13< Necrosporus> For example
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20120804 15:37:18< fendrin> hello
20120804 15:37:33< lipkab> hi fendrin
20120804 15:38:10< fendrin> The channel is a little empty today.
20120804 15:38:46< vultraz> *crickets*
20120804 15:39:40< fendrin> That is a sort of insect?
20120804 15:39:45< lipkab> Only 47 persons...
20120804 15:40:34< vultraz> fendrin: yes crickets are insects
20120804 15:40:39< vultraz> I think...
20120804 15:40:54< fendrin> Yeah, their list still fits on my screen without scrollbar. That is usually not the case.
20120804 15:41:26< lipkab> Wow, you must have a sizely sreen.
20120804 15:41:32< lipkab> *screen
20120804 15:42:06< lipkab> There's about 30% overflow here.
20120804 15:42:22< fendrin> My screen is still 16:10.
20120804 15:42:38 * lipkab is jealous
20120804 15:42:48< lipkab> I hate these new widescreens...
20120804 15:42:48< fendrin> But it is not that huge.
20120804 15:44:11< lipkab> Hmmm, actually the calculator says that my screen is 16:10 as well.
20120804 15:44:31< fendrin> Resolution?
20120804 15:44:34< lipkab> So you indeed have a bigger screen than me.
20120804 15:44:41< lipkab> 1280x800
20120804 15:44:46< fendrin> ah yes
20120804 15:45:02< fendrin> 1680x1050 is it.
20120804 15:45:17< vultraz> I have 1600x900
20120804 15:45:27< lipkab> Who cares :P
20120804 15:45:36< fendrin> I guess you are all laptop users.
20120804 15:45:43< vultraz> yes :P
20120804 15:45:45< lipkab> I am.
20120804 15:46:01< fendrin> I own a netbook, it's horrible slow and small.
20120804 15:46:11< fendrin> To get my work done I rely on Desktops.
20120804 15:46:17< lipkab> Grrr, netbooks.
20120804 15:46:45< lipkab> It should be prohibited to waste precious resources on stuff like netbooks.
20120804 15:46:55< fendrin> :-)
20120804 15:48:33< fendrin> The best about this monitor is not the size or resolution, both quite cheap for Desktop dimensions. It's the arm it is connected to, allowing me to move it in any position around my computer table I like.
20120804 15:49:02< fendrin> I can even decide to work while standing, that is fun after 5 hours of coding in the sitting position.
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20120804 18:21:14< boucman_mobile> hey all
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20120804 18:22:29< boucman_mobile> bloodycoin how is it going? 
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20120804 19:04:24< wesbot> AI0867: The person with the nick Ayne last spoke 8d 2h ago.  1d 23h ago they left with the message: Quit: Leaving
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20120804 20:22:23< CIA-87> anonymissimus * r54919 /trunk/src/ (dialogs.cpp dialogs.hpp game_events.cpp): 
20120804 20:22:23< CIA-87> introduce [unstore_unit]animate=yes|no (def. yes) parameter
20120804 20:22:23< CIA-87> FR in the forums
20120804 20:22:23< CIA-87> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=36999&p=534561#p534561
20120804 20:22:27< CIA-87> anonymissimus * r54920 /trunk/changelog: changelog update
20120804 20:33:55< anonymissimus> fendrin: around ?
20120804 20:55:33< fendrin> anonymissimus: now
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20120804 21:04:10< anonymissimus> fendrin: 20120803 23:35:17< anonymissimus> fendrin: btw you said you aren't satisfied with the map stuff...why ?
20120804 21:04:12< anonymissimus> 20120803 23:37:13< anonymissimus> at present, enough stuff has probably been fixed so that it's stable enough (except for the wmllint support which is desperately missing)
20120804 21:06:25< fendrin> anonymissimus: Ah yes.
20120804 21:07:07< fendrin> I have played around with the current solution a bit and I came to the conclusion that it might be a good idea just to revert my stuff and do it another way.
20120804 21:07:54< fendrin> The [map] syntax can still be the same but it would also support the map= attribute which points to a file to read the map string from.
20120804 21:08:12< fendrin> This means that the map file format can stay exactly the same like it is.
20120804 21:09:32< fendrin> The editor would write additional information like [side],[label] and so on into the file containing the [map] tag, while still writing the map into the given file. 
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20120804 21:56:02< lipkab> Arghhhhhh.
20120804 21:56:20< lipkab> How can I discard all local modifications in svn?
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20120804 21:57:46< lipkab> Nevermind, I found it.
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20120804 22:54:35< anonymissimus> fendrin: I'm afraid I can't follow
20120804 22:54:59< anonymissimus> fendrin: it sounds promising, but we will have to delay the next release a lot then probably
20120804 22:55:34< anonymissimus> fendrin: also, some of the maps are already converted
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20120804 23:11:21< shadowm> Alarantalara: I just tagged Wesnoth RCX 0.2.0, but nobody has tested it on Mac OS X yet. Do you think you could do that before uploading the build to SF.net?
20120804 23:12:27< Alarantalara> Certainly. Anything you want me to check in particular?
20120804 23:15:17< shadowm> Mainly whether the built-in preview still works fine at greater zoom levels (only use that with 72x72 sprites for now), and perhaps whether the palette and color range editors from the Tools menu work fine since they use some specific widget tricks (in particular the palette editor). For the latter, though, you'll need to do things on your own since I don't provide any example range or palette definitions.
20120804 23:16:18< shadowm> I imagine file writing does not need to be particularly 'tested' on Mac OS X since I know it works well on Windows and Linux.
20120804 23:16:57< shadowm> You may note the Git repository has been moved, as well.
20120804 23:17:06< shadowm> https://github.com/shikadilord/morningstar
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20120804 23:29:23< Espreon> Hmmm, too bad esr isn't here... 'cause I found a file that makes wmllint explode.
20120804 23:31:13< lipkab> fendrin: ping
20120804 23:36:24< fendrin> lipkab: pong
20120804 23:37:13< lipkab> fendrin: Well, we had a brief talk about generating dialogs in runtime.
20120804 23:37:31< lipkab> But we didn't really get to the end.
20120804 23:37:58< lipkab> Precisely, if we could factor out the common parts.
20120804 23:38:14< lipkab> s/could/should
20120804 23:40:54< lipkab> (And now of course you have no clue what I am blathering about, because you didn't look up the code I advised you to do :P)
20120804 23:47:32< fendrin> yes
20120804 23:48:27< lipkab> What yes? No clue or factor out?
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