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20120807 04:06:43< CIA-87> espreon * r54935 /branches/1.6/src/ (clipboard.cpp server/simple_wml.hpp): Added missing includes needed by newer versions of gcc.
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20120807 06:00:30< CIA-87> ai0867 * r54936 /branches/1.6/src/ (unit_map.cpp unit_map.hpp): Move numerous function definitions from unit_map.hpp to unit_map.cpp, as they refer to an incomplete type, which gcc 4.7 complains about
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20120807 11:45:46< Ayne> AI0867: you were looking for me?
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20120807 14:54:07< Crab_> Hello, Ayne
20120807 14:54:14< Ayne> hello
20120807 14:55:35< Crab_> how it's going? Note that gsoc is coming to an end soon - how do you feel about all the things that were done?
20120807 15:00:42< Ayne> just getting ready to test the new savegames. I was wondering, if the snapshot and replay_start now contain the same info, why do we store both in an in-game savegame?
20120807 15:01:19< Crab_> they should not contain the same info
20120807 15:01:30< Crab_> same function to get it, but at different moments of time
20120807 15:01:50< Crab_> if you have a game in turn 14, then the replay_start is the snapshot from turn 1, and snapshot is current turn 14 snapshot
20120807 15:01:59< Ayne> ok
20120807 15:02:02< Crab_> so, if you load it as a replay, you can watch all the 14 turns
20120807 15:02:25< Ayne> that makes sense
20120807 15:02:34< Crab_> replay can only replay forward, so we need to have an 'old snapshot' to go from it , when we're replaying
20120807 15:06:39< Ayne> it make sense, i must have somehow missed that bit though, which is why i was confused at first
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20120807 16:12:35< AI0867> Ayne: http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=534405#p534405
20120807 16:13:02< AI0867> there seems to be some carryover-related assertion failure
20120807 16:17:10< Ayne> when exactly does that occur?
20120807 16:31:34< AI0867> I start the 'campaign'
20120807 16:31:49< AI0867> move the goblin to the dragon post
20120807 16:31:57< AI0867> then it fails an assert
20120807 16:32:36< AI0867> just confirmed it still happens on current trunk
20120807 16:32:44< AI0867> and I'm off
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20120807 17:28:01< boucman> hey all 
20120807 17:28:08< boucman> bloodycoin: around ?
20120807 17:30:07< Espreon> Hello.
20120807 17:33:09< boucman> hey
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20120807 19:17:55< Ivanovic> hi everybody!
20120807 19:18:14< isaac> hi!
20120807 19:18:38< Ivanovic> AI0867, boucman, Crab_, elias, mordante, everyone else who cares: the dates for FOSDEM 2013 are out
20120807 19:18:52< Ivanovic> it will be the first weekend in febuary
20120807 19:18:58< Crab_> Ivanovic: great, thanks
20120807 19:19:03< Ivanovic> and yes, i plan to organize another games devroom
20120807 19:19:04< Ivanovic> ;)
20120807 19:19:13< Crab_> the previous one was quite a success
20120807 19:19:16< Ivanovic> jepp
20120807 19:19:45< elias> can't believe it's half a year since the last one already
20120807 19:19:49< Ivanovic> :)
20120807 19:19:56< Crab_> time tends to fly fast
20120807 19:20:00< Ivanovic> i can't believe that i have been working for almost half a year now...
20120807 19:20:21< Crab_> and I'm married for two months already :)
20120807 19:21:06< Ivanovic> :)
20120807 19:21:16< Ivanovic> so will you come to fosdem and make it a trip with your wife?
20120807 19:21:25< Crab_> yes, exactly
20120807 19:21:35< Ivanovic> cool!
20120807 19:21:44< Crab_> definitely :) And, are you now mostly in US or in Europe?
20120807 19:22:07< Ivanovic> no idea yet how I will handle it regarding vacations and such
20120807 19:22:14< Ivanovic> mostly in EU
20120807 19:23:04< Ivanovic> that is the project I am currently working on has almost no (direct) US contact, most contact is to poland and since we try to keep the budget as low as possible (we are supposed to create something like a "product" with a buisness case and all that stuff) there is close to no travel involved at the moment
20120807 19:25:52< Crab_> I see. it's sad, travel is always fun.
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20120807 19:50:37< mordante> servus
20120807 19:51:56< mordante> thanks for the FOSDEM info Ivanovic 
20120807 19:53:25< ChrisOelmueller> whoo, fosdem
20120807 19:55:24< Ivanovic> ChrisOelmueller: and yes, i plan to do another games devroom!
20120807 19:55:42< ChrisOelmueller> Ivanovic: awesome! :)
20120807 19:59:05< timotei> Hmmm http://developers.slashdot.org/story/12/06/26/1940250/are-open-source-desktops-losing-competitiveness
20120807 20:03:23< mordante> nah fvwm is still going strong ;-)
20120807 20:05:40< elias> about ever DE is better than KDE :)
20120807 20:07:17< lipkab> Of course not.
20120807 20:07:18< mordante> the source of CDE has been released 
20120807 20:07:50< timotei> Also: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/08/06/nasas_control_room_flooded_with_macs_during_mars_curiosity_landing.html
20120807 20:07:50< timotei> :D
20120807 20:15:56< Ivanovic> hmm, i am using kde and yes, i really like it, it just works for me
20120807 20:16:45< Ivanovic> and the UI is IMO significantly better than either OSX or Win7
20120807 20:17:06< Ivanovic> not to mention this strange thing called metro which will for sure work great on 2560x1440 non touchscreens...
20120807 20:18:26< lipkab> Actually, Metro looks great (although I never tried to use it).
20120807 20:18:57< lipkab> I like big, colorful things.
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20120807 20:19:34< mordante> actually it's no longer called metro :-P
20120807 20:20:07< lipkab> That will not stop me from calling it so :P
20120807 20:20:13< Espreon> It's now called Ghastly Horror....
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20120807 21:05:24< timotei> lipkab: It just looks "great". But it's not usable on desktop PCs...
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20120807 21:12:25< Ivanovic> boucman, Crab_, gabba, mordante, noy: the end of GSoC 2012 is getting near
20120807 21:12:35< Ivanovic> please make sure the students are aware of this upcoming eval
20120807 21:12:42< Crab_> will do
20120807 21:12:56< Ivanovic> (and keep it in mind yourself so that you don't forget to fill out the evals)
20120807 21:21:05< mordante> Ivanovic, will do
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20120807 21:23:49< mordante> I'm off night
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20120807 23:48:48< AI0867> Ivanovic: how is WESDGM coming along? any news?
20120807 23:49:24< AI0867> Preparations for FOSDEM 2013
20120807 23:49:25< AI0867> We are currently working on a brand new website and migrating some of our infrastructure. We hope to be ready in July.
20120807 23:49:32< AI0867> ^ that deadline worked well
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