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20120809 02:27:55< CIA-87> vultraz * r54942 /trunk/data/core/images/units/undead-skeletal/skeleton/ (8 files): Recolored some of the new skeleton's anim frames with Magenta TC instead of Red
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20120809 18:54:32< CIA-87> elvish_hunter * r54943 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): TB: fixed some missing messages if no unit with role=speaker is present in The Chase. Bug reported by AI0867 on IRC
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20120809 20:10:42< neph> mattsc,  hi
20120809 20:10:50< neph> did you get a chance to test the new feature?
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20120809 20:13:33< mattsc> hi, neph.  No, sorry, I haven't had time for anything Wesnoth in the last few days.
20120809 20:14:11< mattsc> I did see the little blip you added to the Lua AI page and have a question about it (there isn't much detail there yet)
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20120809 20:15:40< mattsc> Does that mean that I need to use wesnoth.debug_ai() when I am testing, and the ai table in "real scenario" mode?
20120809 20:15:40< neph> yes i didn't really know what to write about it
20120809 20:16:01< neph> you can use it whenever you want in debug mode
20120809 20:16:15< neph> you don't get access to the ai table
20120809 20:16:31< neph> rather, you get access to the component tree
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20120809 20:16:55< mattsc> So that means that I cannot test the "real code" in debug mode?  In other words, the test and the final code have to be different?
20120809 20:17:22< neph> you can
20120809 20:17:34< neph> example, you are writing a CA, you add it to the loop
20120809 20:17:43< neph> now you can launch it whenever you want
20120809 20:17:47< neph> from the right click menu
20120809 20:17:52< neph> or the console
20120809 20:17:59< neph> the ca code needs not to be modified
20120809 20:18:16< mattsc> And it has access to the ai table when doing so?
20120809 20:18:46< neph> it just launches the components, if the components are lua based, they will have access to tha ai table
20120809 20:19:19< mattsc> ok ...
20120809 20:19:37< neph> I think it will seem really clear to you
20120809 20:19:37< mattsc> I think what would be really good to add to the Lua AI page would be some examples of how to do that.,
20120809 20:19:43< neph> once you try using that
20120809 20:19:46< neph> thingy
20120809 20:20:03< mattsc> And all the new functions of the ai table need to be documented as well.
20120809 20:20:06< neph> you can also suggest(and I hope you will), changes and modifications to it
20120809 20:20:25< neph> indeed
20120809 20:20:36< mattsc> Yes, I assume I will.  :)
20120809 20:20:51< mattsc> The problem is that the end of GSOC is on Monday, right?
20120809 20:21:08< neph> no
20120809 20:21:16< mattsc> And I don't think that I'll have time for extensive testing by then.  I'll try to do some of it though.
20120809 20:21:16< neph> the 20th is the hard deadline
20120809 20:22:13< neph> 13th is the soft deadline
20120809 20:22:17< neph> but I still have a task to do
20120809 20:22:33< mattsc> Hmm, ok.  Still not a lot of time for extensive testing (by me) plus making changes (by you) if I find something.
20120809 20:22:49< neph> it's fine no worries
20120809 20:23:06< neph> i'm not gonna disappear once the deadline hits
20120809 20:23:18< mattsc> That's great to know.
20120809 20:23:45< Crab_> for the deadlines, we need to send the code to google (easily done); we need to fill out evaluations. and, for tasks, I'll check them as per our agreement (Add some per-CA filters,add access to ai context and RCA stage for debugging, ensure that the documentation is up-to-date")
20120809 20:24:06< mattsc> Well, I don't have time for this today (sorry, completely booked out until late night), but I'll at least try to have a first look at it tomorrow.
20120809 20:24:08< Crab_> but, the world doesn't end there :)
20120809 20:24:37< mattsc> ok, good.  :)
20120809 20:24:54< neph> Crab_, I tried doing the fancy way for the component tree but srewed up a bit, so I purged the work and did it the simple stupid way
20120809 20:25:12< neph> I hope, that when I try the fun part again, the syntax won't change
20120809 20:25:32< mattsc> neph: if you could add a couple examples to the wiki how to use the debug_ai function, and how to call stages and CAs, that would be really helpful.
20120809 20:26:25< neph> ok, I will do so
20120809 20:26:34< Crab_> btw, it's good to see that there's more people are starting to use lua ai
20120809 20:26:57< Crab_> neph: what was the fancy way? :)
20120809 20:27:01< mattsc> Crab_: yes, absolutely.
20120809 20:27:42< neph> Crab_, the fancy way was when components register themselves on construction(and unregister on deconstruction) in a table in the Lua state
20120809 20:27:56< neph> that is a secure and cool way
20120809 20:28:42< neph> should also be simple to implement correctly
20120809 20:29:02< Crab_> neph: ok, and why it hasn't worked? seems like a good idea, as you have C++ wrappers for the candidate actions, and thus you have reliable constructors and destructors
20120809 20:32:01< neph> I couldn't locate the actual bug in my code, most probably something went wrong with my interaction with the Lua state. Then I noticed what date it is and just acted safe
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20120809 20:38:48< Crab_> yes, that's a good approach :)
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20120809 22:09:03< fendrin> Espreon: Hi, thank you for your PM feedback, I am going to investigate the bugs you found soon.
20120809 22:09:51< mattsc> Hi, fendrin.  Did you see my question concerning LoW-3?
20120809 22:10:34< Espreon> fendrin: You're quite welcome. :)
20120809 22:20:21< fendrin> mattsc: No, I didn't. And I am sorry to say that I won't have much time to take care about Wesnoth until the weekend :-). But I am looking forward to test the dragon ai scenario and talk about LoW3 then.
20120809 22:21:26< mattsc> fendrin: no worries, I don't have much time myself (incl. on the weekend)
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20120809 22:57:32< AI0867> http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=37375 <-- I'll just leave this here
20120809 23:13:03< zookeeper> yeah it's cool, even if pretty rough and presumably WIP
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