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20120813 00:01:55< CIA-87> jamit * r54977 /trunk/src/ (game_display.cpp game_display.hpp): fake_unit: Inlining the constructors and cleaning up some Doxygen comments.
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20120813 00:21:49< Crab_> jamit: (might not be important atm, but) probably 'kill the definition while retaining the declaration somewhere in private: ' is the better approach (else the compiler might generate a default definition for you).
20120813 00:23:14< jamit> Yeah, killing the declaration actually was not a good idea since there was an inherited version that would get applied. I went with killing the definition instead.
20120813 00:23:26< Crab_> jamit: it might be good if we just put a macro like DISALLOW_COPY_AND_ASSIGN to each class except where it makes sense to copy
20120813 00:24:53< jamit> Maybe, but I have a use for assignment with fake units. I just need to make the definitions work.
20120813 00:25:08< Crab_> ok
20120813 00:27:28< jamit> Given how the current definitions don't work, I doubt assignment is used anywhere, but I'll still make an effort to make sure I don't break anything.
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20120813 00:32:09< jamit> It looks like fake_unit assignment is not used, so my next changes should not break anything. Then I'll be able to use the assignment.
20120813 00:38:35< CIA-87> jamit * r54978 /trunk/src/game_display.cpp: (log message trimmed)
20120813 00:38:36< CIA-87> Fix game_display::fake_unit assignment.
20120813 00:38:36< CIA-87> One version left the fake unit in a bad state (not on a display, but recorded
20120813 00:38:36< CIA-87> as being on one), and the other failed to keep the fake unit on a display,
20120813 00:38:36< CIA-87> even though the comments indicated it did.
20120813 00:38:36< CIA-87> With this change, the display is preserved over assignment, which is consistent
20120813 00:38:37< CIA-87> with the copy constructor and the documentation for assigning a unit to a fake.
20120813 00:40:32< jamit> ^ These bugs did exist before r54976. Just doing things in smallish stages.
20120813 00:41:03< Crab_> also, I'm sure that there're plenty of copyconstructor-related bugs left in the code :)
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20120813 00:50:20< jamit> If the other bugs interfere with what I am trying to do, I'll address them as well. :)
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20120813 01:05:45< CIA-87> jamit * r54979 /trunk/src/ (game_display.hpp game_events.cpp): 
20120813 01:05:45< CIA-87> Eliminate the need for a temporary object, and make a variable called side_num
20120813 01:05:45< CIA-87> hold the side number rather than the team index.
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20120813 03:20:13< CIA-87> jamit * r54980 /trunk/src/ (actions.cpp unit_display.cpp unit_display.hpp): 
20120813 03:20:13< CIA-87> Push some animation code from actions.cpp back into unit_display.cpp and merge
20120813 03:20:13< CIA-87> it with the code there. This makes (an evolution of) the animation class used
20120813 03:20:13< CIA-87> for incremental moves (in ::move_unit()) publically available in the
20120813 03:20:13< CIA-87> unit_display name space.
20120813 03:32:30< CIA-87> jamit * r54981 /trunk/src/ (unit_display.cpp unit_display.hpp): End some field names with an underscore.
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20120813 04:01:59< CIA-87> jamit * r54982 /trunk/src/ (display.cpp display.hpp unit_display.cpp): 
20120813 04:01:59< CIA-87> Add a version of display::scroll_to_tiles() that takes iterators.
20120813 04:01:59< CIA-87> This saves creating a new vector when only part of a route needs
20120813 04:01:59< CIA-87> to be scrolled onscreen.
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20120813 06:09:52< mattsc> Hi Nephro, I checked out your debug access to the AI tree and am rather confused (we really need more documentation)
20120813 06:11:15< mattsc> First, probably a minor thing, if you launch Wesnoth _not_ in debug mode and the side ai definition contains 'ai_stdlib.init(ai, true)', there's an error message:
20120813 06:11:53< mattsc> '<LuaAI Error> The LuaAI debug library is only available in debug mode'
20120813 06:12:43< mattsc> even if I am not trying to use it.  I assume that ai_stdlib tries to access it somehow and needs a check whether Wesnoth is in debug mode.
20120813 06:13:31< mattsc> Second, the return of wesnoth.debug_ai(side) is not at all what I expected.  (Which doesn't make it wrong, just not what I thought it would be.)
20120813 06:14:23< mattsc> Is expected to have access to the ai table functions, such as ai.get_dst_src etc.  (That's the part that is _Really_ needed for debugging.)
20120813 06:15:52< mattsc> Instead I am seeing this: http://pastebin.com/FzUHGqXF which is the AI component tree (as you say on the LuaAI wiki page).  No problem with that, but the above is also needed.
20120813 06:16:37< mattsc> The same wiki page also says that I can use this to launch CAs and stages, but I have no idea how.
20120813 06:17:19< mattsc> As I said, I am confused.  Maybe everything is there and I just don't know what to do with it.  As I said, we need some more documentation.
20120813 06:18:00< mattsc> Since you're likely going to be online many hours before me tomorrow, I figured I write all this down...
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20120813 06:23:39< Jetrel> Sirp:  so what I do know is the castles are done by drawing an internal, and an external transition for each "edge"
20120813 06:24:17< Sirp> Does anybody know where the images on this page went? http://wiki.wesnoth.org/CastleTutorial
20120813 06:24:23< Sirp> The tutorial is very hard to follow without the images
20120813 06:24:48< Sirp> and/or does anybody have detailed info on how castle rendering works in Wesnoth?
20120813 06:26:21< Jetrel> Sirp:   ah, well, a key part of our problem is (WTF!?!?!) the images on that page were directly linked to ayin's homepage.
20120813 06:26:28< Jetrel> Rather than being uploaded to our wiki.
20120813 06:26:41< Jetrel> I will see what I can do about hunting them down and restoring them.
20120813 06:27:04< Sirp> ahhh. :-/
20120813 06:27:07< Sirp> is Ayin still around?
20120813 06:27:31< Jetrel> No, he's been gone since well before 1.0, IIRC
20120813 06:28:10< Jetrel> I found something, though...  give me a bit
20120813 06:28:58< Sirp> okay
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20120813 06:31:10< Jetrel> I'm able to get about ~12 images that used to be on that page
20120813 06:31:26< Sirp> oh really? I'm sure anything you can get would be helpful
20120813 06:32:05< Jetrel> Interestingly the "missing" images in the numerically named sequence are not referenced in the wiki page to begin with...
20120813 06:32:18< Jetrel> I'm moving these to wesnoth-based hosting
20120813 06:33:11< Jetrel> aka here:  http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki-images/tutorial/castle-tutorial/images/
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20120813 06:33:21< Jetrel> And I'm going to wire them into that tutorial.
20120813 06:35:42< Jetrel> Sirp:  voila:  http://wiki.wesnoth.org/CastleTutorial
20120813 06:36:04< Sirp> Jetrel: awesome, thank you!
20120813 06:36:16< Jetrel> Sirp:   so here's the bitter note - he references several figures that may have never been made, and I have a feeling he never quite finished the tutorial.
20120813 06:37:17< Sirp> Jetrel: Krista is pretty smart. My guess is she can figure it out. :)
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20120813 09:12:53< zookeeper> Sirp, Jetrel, so what are krista and the castle tutorial going to have to do with each other?
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20120813 15:58:25< Ayne> Crab_: I'm trying to replace starting_pos with replay_start, but there's all those calls to write_players() in playcampaign::play_game() that were used to set starting_pos, and I'm not sure what to do with them
20120813 15:58:32< Crab_> hello
20120813 15:59:40< Crab_> wait a second, I'll take a look at the source.
20120813 16:00:16< Ayne> hi, thanks
20120813 16:00:25< Crab_> my intuition would say "kill it", only the backward-compat code would need it
20120813 16:00:34< Crab_> i.e. the snapshot includes all in-game info anyway, so there's nothing else to add
20120813 16:00:56< Crab_> and backward-compat should be added only once, when taking a config, when loading game
20120813 16:01:44< Crab_> it's mostly a backward-compat routine anyway (plus some code to make replays work)
20120813 16:02:04< Crab_> but, if we're saving a whole snapshot as replay_start, we can just pass it to replay_controller without any modifications....
20120813 16:02:20< Ayne> ok
20120813 16:02:54< Crab_> also write_players was trying to apply carryover transition, but you already added proper carryover code at all places where it is needed
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20120813 16:06:56< Crab_> if we would not be able to load a replay from a [replay_start] snapshot, that would be a bug - I mean, if we can *play* the game from snapshot, we can surely start replaying from it, as well.
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20120813 22:11:39< AI0867> fendrin: what does the planned new format look like?
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20120813 22:25:41< CIA-87> ivanovic * r54983 /branches/1.10/po/ (8 files in 8 dirs): updated Lithuanian translation
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20120813 22:26:08< CIA-87> ivanovic * r54984 /trunk/po/ (8 files in 8 dirs): updated Lithuanian translation
20120813 22:26:56< fendrin> AI0867: hi
20120813 22:27:43< fendrin> AI0867: I can't tell definitely, still in planning phase.
20120813 22:28:13< fendrin> The editor will most likely write and read exactly the same files like it does in 1.10.
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20120813 22:29:38< fendrin> But if there a extra information to safe (like sides, village ownership, units, labels...) those will be written in an extra file with the proposed [map] syntax referencing the file that contains only the pure map data.
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20120813 22:29:58< fendrin> This way I can leave most of the old code and syntax untouched.
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20120813 22:45:27< AI0867> so no moving the border_size and such out of the string?
20120813 22:45:34< AI0867> because I rather liked that part
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20120813 23:24:33< timotei> Hottentottenstottertrottelmutterbeutelrattenlattengitterkofferattentäte
20120813 23:24:38< timotei> Hmm, wrong chat
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