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20120819 02:12:49< shadowm> Jetrel: I just realized the new skeleton animations breaks UMC relying on the old paths. Has a feature request been filed about this yet, for wmllint?
20120819 02:12:55< shadowm> *break
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20120819 02:15:10< shadowm> One would think that after stuffing them into a separate skeleton/ subdirectory the filenames no longer need the skeleton- prefix...
20120819 02:18:22< shadowm> (And obviously I only realized this just now because I was just beginning to check my add-on for 1.11.x compatibility when I hit a conspicuous roadblock in the form of a missing image in the difficulty menu.)
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20120819 03:53:59< Jetrel> shadowm:  I didn't realize those were considered a dependency. :/
20120819 04:04:58< vultraz> but if they weren't in a subdir, it would take up too much space :S
20120819 04:05:01< shadowm> All core assets can be considered UMC dependencies.
20120819 04:05:15< shadowm> vultraz: Yeah... just like it always has.
20120819 04:05:40< shadowm> I'm not against that reorganization, but a migration path would be nice. I could write it right now, in fact.
20120819 04:06:08< shadowm> But the .../skeleton/skeleton-*.png thing seems rather odd.
20120819 04:07:17< vultraz> true...
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20120819 05:49:27< Jetrel> yeah, the reason for skeleton/skeleton- is just for consistency with the augur line.  There are arguments both ways.
20120819 05:49:49< Jetrel> (er, "consistency with other unit lines that have been subdired"
20120819 05:50:22< Jetrel> Perhaps the only reason is that in each such folder, there's still often a single "unitname.png" image as an "iconic" representation of the unit.
20120819 05:51:08< Jetrel> since the new bob animations don't always have quite as good of a still frame that can be extracted.
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20120819 10:16:04< Ivanovic> Espreon: will you take care of the croatian translation?
20120819 10:16:19< shadowm> He will be unavailable for a week or so.
20120819 10:23:53< Ivanovic> okay, thanks for the info
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20120819 11:42:06< charlieh65> Hi.
20120819 11:42:17< charlieh65>  8-) 
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20120819 14:24:40< Alarantalara> I'm getting errors compiling trunk after r55016 (GCC 4.2)
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20120819 14:29:13< Alarantalara> also with LLVM
20120819 14:29:57< AI0867> 4.2? Even debian stable has 4.4
20120819 14:30:13< Alarantalara> 4.2 is the last GPL 2 release
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20120819 14:31:00< Alarantalara> and Apple is opposed to GPL v3, thus the switch to LLVM after that
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20120819 14:46:30< AI0867> they have other reasons to switch to LLVM, but I guess that's a good excuse to stop updating the gcc version
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20120819 15:02:53< Alarantalara> Ah well, it appears that the compiler had problems with the method name check in one file. I've just renamed it and that deals with the problem.
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20120819 15:06:44< anonymissimus> shadowm: shouldn't running wmlscope regularly detect such kind of problems ? (I know you probably don't)
20120819 15:20:56< zookeeper> sure it would
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20120819 16:15:02< anonymissimus> zookeeper: apropos wmlscope etc; the portrait references in HttT are still broken
20120819 16:15:24< zookeeper> D:
20120819 16:15:47< vultraz> hmmm...
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20120819 16:15:56 * vultraz wonders if he could do that
20120819 16:21:57< zookeeper> you could, but i suppose i can just as well do it right now
20120819 16:24:03< Ivanovic> zookeeper: how is the EI rework progressing?
20120819 16:24:10< Ivanovic> you got less than a week before 1.11.0
20120819 16:24:11< Ivanovic> ;)
20120819 16:24:18< zookeeper> i know
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20120819 16:57:33< anonymissimus> if you ask me, that date isn't going to hold anyway...
20120819 17:01:56< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: so far i heard about no *significant* blockers
20120819 17:03:06< anonymissimus> zookeeper: , vultraz : here's the wmlscope output for HttT http://pastebin.com/YWTxZd8E
20120819 17:03:20< anonymissimus> so you could just follow that, not need to search
20120819 17:03:37< zookeeper> searching is easier :p besides i'm more or less done already
20120819 17:04:11< anonymissimus> Ivanovic: the map stuff isn't ready
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20120819 17:05:03< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: it is reasonable...
20120819 17:05:11< Ivanovic> that is: something seems to be working somehow
20120819 17:05:28< anonymissimus> there are no reverting/redoing commits yet and experience shows that we need a week or two in trunk to check that something like that is stable enough
20120819 17:06:26< anonymissimus> but as it is currently, it introduces some new wml syntax which we would need to deprecate afterwards
20120819 17:06:43< Ivanovic> which can always be done!
20120819 17:06:57< anonymissimus> work which can be avoided
20120819 17:07:14< Ivanovic> so just have fendrin revert it later today and be done with the "problem"
20120819 17:07:20< Ivanovic> leaves about a week for further testing
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20120819 17:25:19< zookeeper> latest commit should fix the HttT portrait refs
20120819 17:25:33< zookeeper> haven't yet wired in all the new expressions though, will do that next
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20120819 18:01:03< anonymissimus> Espreon is away someone said ? I'd like to knwo how exactly he converted the UtbS maps back
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20120819 18:50:40< anonymissimus> timotei21: when having the plugin installed but using another workspace which with I do not want to setup the plugin, it annoys me every time I start up eclipse...would be nice to have some way around this
20120819 18:51:21< anonymissimus> apparently the fact that it was set up is stored in the workspace; however, one can use several workspaces with the same installation
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20120819 19:04:40< shadowm> Alarantalara: Wesnoth RCX 0.2.1 has just been tagged and the source code tarball and Win32 package uploaded.
20120819 19:09:12< Alarantalara> shadowm: Got it. I've got to leave now, but I should be able to get to it tomorrow evening.
20120819 19:09:45< shadowm> All right.
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20120819 19:20:44< anonymissimus> timotei21: still worse, it seems it breaks stuff in pydev in case I don't set it up :P
20120819 19:21:06< anonymissimus> now I uninstalled it and I finally can set breakpoints :)
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20120819 21:16:57< Nephro> does wml translate x,y=1,2 into 0,1 in a c++ config?
20120819 21:23:36< jamit> Nephro: Yes. WML coordinates are 1-based, while C++ stores them 0-based.
20120819 21:26:18< jamit> The translations are done in map_location.cpp, in map_location::write() and the constructor that takes a config, possibly in some other places that read configs.
20120819 21:27:01< Nephro> I see, thanks
20120819 21:27:02< jamit> Oh wait, you asked about the config itself? They are still 1-based in the config structure.
20120819 21:27:38< Nephro> Yes, I understood where the magic happens, thanks
20120819 21:30:02< AI0867> which used to make sense, but no longer does now that 0,0 is a border hex
20120819 21:30:09< AI0867> which is stored as -1,-1 in C++
20120819 21:31:08< anonymissimus> worth to mention that lua also has wml coordinates, and the lua interface translates it to c++ ones
20120819 21:33:53< anonymissimus> here's a list of those remaining maps which got unintentionally converted to the new format and need to be reverted: http://pastebin.com/mf7p3tAP
20120819 21:34:14< anonymissimus> that is, all remaining ones in the new format
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