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20120820 00:55:17< AI0867> Necrosporus: well, I'm now at war with the "don't parse all the helptext at once" system
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20120820 02:36:59< ancestral> I suppose I should look back at tackling terrain transitions again
20120820 02:37:08< ancestral> http://mproud.com/wesnoth/canvas/
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20120820 08:15:19< ancestral> Are the forums down? http://forums.wesnoth.org
20120820 08:16:44< shadowm> Potentially.
20120820 08:16:55< shadowm> janebot: http://forums.wesnoth.org
20120820 08:16:56< janebot> shadowm: title: Battle for Wesnoth &bull; Index page
20120820 08:16:57< ancestral> Oh hey backup
20120820 08:16:59< shadowm> No.
20120820 08:17:10< ancestral> Wouldn't resolve for about 3 minutes
20120820 08:17:32< shadowm> Name resolution is not our business.
20120820 08:17:47< ancestral> s/resolve/load
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20120820 15:21:04< AI0867> there are so many layers of lazy loading that it took me way too long to figure out which one was causing me trouble...
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20120820 16:29:22< boucman> hey all
20120820 16:29:34< boucman> bloodycoin: i am back online !!! :)
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20120820 20:07:05< mordante> servus
20120820 20:09:24< lipkab> hi mordante
20120820 20:09:46< lipkab> mordante: Well, GSoC is over...
20120820 20:09:57< mordante> bloodycoin, regarding the code IIRC google mainly needs it for the IRS to justify their expences
20120820 20:10:07< mordante> hi lipkab 
20120820 20:10:15< mordante> lipkab, in 50 minutes ;-)
20120820 20:17:12< lipkab> mordante: Expect me to be intensively nagging you starting from tomorrow >:)
20120820 20:18:44< mordante> lipkab, it's about 32°C in this room, so don't expect me to be around long :-P
20120820 20:19:13< mordante> it should get to normal temperatures later this week
20120820 20:43:41< lipkab> mordante: I hope you'll have a climate agreeable for patch reviewing ;)
20120820 20:46:25< mordante> patch reviewing and compilation, my CPU and cooler also are not too happy with the temperature
20120820 20:46:52< mordante> cooling with warm air somehow seems not to work that well ;-)
20120820 20:47:29< lipkab> Put the computer into the fridge :P
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20120820 20:49:18< mordante> sounds about as smart as opening the fridge to cool the room :-P
20120820 20:50:07< mordante> not to mention what happens when water condensates on the PCB...
20120820 20:50:29 * elias opens the fridge (it has like 30° in here :/)
20120820 20:51:40 * mordante watches elias heating up his place even further ;-)
20120820 20:51:53< elias> :P
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20120820 21:01:56< Necrosporus> Actually it can work if you put your fridge backside to the outside
20120820 21:02:14< Necrosporus> open a door and put fridge into doorspace
20120820 21:02:57< Necrosporus> I wonder, would everyone redraw Spectre?
20120820 21:03:08< Necrosporus> Its style differs from all other ghosts
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20120820 21:03:23< Necrosporus> it's white while other ghosts are black
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20120820 21:04:03< Necrosporus> Wraith is much more attractive than Spectre
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20120820 21:07:56< mordante> Necrosporus, yes that would indeed work
20120820 21:12:46< lipkab> Actually, the spectre has already been redrawn in trunk...
20120820 21:13:24< lipkab> http://units.wesnoth.org/trunk/mainline/en_US/Spectre.html
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20120820 21:17:26< Necrosporus> This one is even worse
20120820 21:17:30< Necrosporus> isn't it?
20120820 21:17:56< Necrosporus> no antialiasing
20120820 21:18:04< lipkab> Blargh.
20120820 21:18:27< lipkab> There aren't any AA on any of the Wesnoth sprites.
20120820 21:19:19< anonymissimus> fridge into door is like air conditioning
20120820 21:19:29< lipkab> But otherwise, yes, I'd prefer the old baseframe to this one, too.
20120820 21:19:41< anonymissimus> however, any air conditioning heats the planet further
20120820 21:19:53< lipkab> However, the new one has the clear advantage of being animated.
20120820 21:20:40< mordante> anonymissimus, true on both accounts
20120820 21:21:22< anonymissimus> perhaps zookeeper should review the patch then...facebook builts his new servers in northern sweden because the cooling is better xD
20120820 21:22:51< Necrosporus> I got what's wrong with Spectre
20120820 21:22:57< Necrosporus> It's not transparent
20120820 21:23:01< mordante> well there are other options for cooling one of my teachers loved to tell about Wärmepumpen in Germany
20120820 21:23:07< Necrosporus> Or it's not meant to be?
20120820 21:23:31< Necrosporus> Also nightgaunt is not transparent too, but it's at least more fun
20120820 21:23:48< anonymissimus> thats actually air conditioning in reverse afaik, wärmepumpe is used in winter
20120820 21:24:38< lipkab> Necrosporus: The fact that they're appear opaque in u.w.o doesn't mean that they aren't transparent in-game.
20120820 21:25:02< Necrosporus> http://storage6.static.itmages.ru/i/12/0820/h_1345490574_2217433_2f018724fb.png
20120820 21:25:27< Necrosporus> Nightgaunt and Spectre aren't transparent
20120820 21:25:52 * lipkab shrugs
20120820 21:26:02< lipkab> I talked about possibilites :P
20120820 21:26:05< mordante> anonymissimus, you can use them in both directions
20120820 21:26:13< Necrosporus> Though Nightgaunt is semitransparent at night
20120820 21:26:24< mordante> you can store heat in the summer and then use that in the winter
20120820 21:26:29< Necrosporus> and Spectre is only ghost never transparent
20120820 21:27:14< Necrosporus> also Spectre and Nightgaunt only units which doesn't change transparence periodically
20120820 21:29:11< lipkab> Necrosporus: I checked the new spectre, just for you, and it's both transparent and blinking.
20120820 21:29:21< anonymissimus> mordante: uhm, how would one "store heat" ? surely not without transforming it into another type of energy
20120820 21:29:27< Necrosporus> http://storage2.static.itmages.ru/i/12/0820/h_1345490888_9940965_81b09fd644.png
20120820 21:29:54< anonymissimus> over a long time I mean, such as from summer to winter
20120820 21:29:58< lipkab> Necrosporus: The NEW spectre.
20120820 21:30:13< Necrosporus> I got it
20120820 21:30:19< anonymissimus> hm, well, seas and ocean can do that
20120820 21:30:20< Necrosporus> What's about new nightgaunt?
20120820 21:30:38< lipkab> There's no new nightgaunt...
20120820 21:31:33< Ivanovic> fendrin: what is the status of the map format stuff?
20120820 21:31:35< Necrosporus> Current one is fine, except no animation
20120820 21:31:46< Ivanovic> fendrin: anonymissimus was concerned yesterday that it might delay the release of 1.11.0
20120820 21:33:45< Necrosporus> lipkab, screenshot please?
20120820 21:33:58< Necrosporus> I can give you a save
20120820 21:34:45 * Ivanovic is sad that CIA is not reporting commits!
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20120820 21:35:06< Necrosporus> http://rghost.net/39902814
20120820 21:35:24< Necrosporus> Can one who have working trunk make a screenshot from this save?
20120820 21:38:23< lipkab> Necrosporus: Here's the new spectre: http://imagebin.org/225261
20120820 21:38:29< lipkab> Nothing else changed.
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20120820 21:39:24< Necrosporus> In game it's not that bad
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20120820 21:39:44< lipkab> negusnyul: Not watching the fireworks either? ;)
20120820 21:41:23< fendrin> Ivanovic: You want to release the next saturday?
20120820 21:41:32< Ivanovic> jepp
20120820 21:41:44< fendrin> 25?
20120820 21:43:08< Necrosporus> lipkab, does it have attack animation?
20120820 21:43:32< lipkab> Yes.
20120820 21:45:05< mordante> anonymissimus, yes it works http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wärmepumpen has some information and links to more information
20120820 21:45:58< mordante> and sometimes the heat is also stored in other forms
20120820 21:46:24< negusnyul> lipkab: hey
20120820 21:46:27< Necrosporus> I have an familiar artist who can possibly draw something for wesnoth... If we make a dragonfly unit where can it be used?
20120820 21:46:48< Necrosporus> There are no dragonflies in wesnoth, are them?
20120820 21:47:09< negusnyul> lipkab: no I dont watch TV & not in Budapest so no firework watching :)
20120820 21:55:03< anonymissimus> mordante: I know that stuff since physics lessons in class 9, not really a need to tell me...
20120820 21:56:10< mordante> anonymissimus, I happened to study this subject in school
20120820 21:57:15< anonymissimus> okay, then I volunteer to be the one you tell me about if it's your passion
20120820 21:57:57< mordante> it's not my passion, actually don't do much with the subjects I studied ;-)
20120820 22:00:01< anonymissimus> but btw, Wärmelehre is a pure nightmare...it's cute in school of course, but don't meet it at unversity
20120820 22:00:22< anonymissimus> (well, actually, don't meed anything at a university)
20120820 22:01:36< mordante> I studied in at the FH
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20120820 22:04:59< anonymissimus> well, then it is not quite such a nightmare as at a university, but still not to underestimate
20120820 22:07:50< mordante> tell me, I studied it ;-)
20120820 22:12:47< anonymissimus> mordante: so, you studied physics or something related at a FH ?
20120820 22:15:17< mordante> no studied Maschinenbau
20120820 22:21:33< anonymissimus> ah yeah then you've some physics as well AFAIK
20120820 22:21:44< anonymissimus> that *is* somethign related
20120820 22:23:12< mordante> yes physics was in there as well, but the study was rather broad
20120820 22:23:12< anonymissimus> and how did you come from that to coding ?
20120820 22:23:32< anonymissimus> was there any coding during the studies already ?
20120820 22:23:58< mordante> some but I didn't learn much from it, was ahead of the class
20120820 22:24:25< mordante> I'm just interested in both fields, but after my study found out I liked coding better
20120820 22:24:49< mordante> also didn't find much computer science studies when I studied
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20120820 22:47:07< anonymissimus> mordante: and so when you have coded 8 hours each day, I suppose you come here to code full of passion another 4 hours for wesnoth ? :P
20120820 22:49:57< mordante> anonymissimus, often yes
20120820 23:00:14< anonymissimus> :)))
20120820 23:00:37< shadowm> mordante: Out of curiosity, do you play Wesnoth nowadays?
20120820 23:01:41< shadowm> It doesn't have to be on a daily basis, but from time to time, to get the whole picture?
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20120820 23:13:28< mordante> shadowm, on a regular basis, often while commuting
20120820 23:14:35< shadowm> What do you play? Mainline campaigns, user-made campaigns, local MP, or networked?
20120820 23:14:37< Ivanovic> fendrin: since the next saturday is the 25th of august: yes, that is when i plan to release 1.11.0
20120820 23:14:55-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: stringfreeze for branches/1.10 | 1.10.4 planned for 24th August | 1.11.0 planned for 25th August| 185 bugs, 338 feature requests, 18 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20120820 23:15:05< Ivanovic> fendrin: to make it more obvious, cf topic
20120820 23:15:06< Ivanovic> ;)
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20120820 23:17:14< mordante> I'm only interested in SP campaigns did some UMCs, but recently only mainline
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20120820 23:17:46< Ivanovic> time for me to head off to bed, n8
20120820 23:17:57< mordante> night Ivanovic 
20120820 23:18:05< shadowm> mordante: All right, thanks for the answer. :)
20120820 23:18:27< mordante> no problem
20120820 23:24:02< anonymissimus> mordante: do you learn something in addition from coding wesnoth ? how is it compared to coding for work ? I supposed you use the same compiler, editor, vcs ?
20120820 23:25:36< mordante> regarding learning, still reading CS books
20120820 23:25:58< mordante> at work I use the same compiler but also mingw for Windows
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20120820 23:26:28< mordante> MSVC doesn't work boost and gtkmm have some conflicting settings :-(
20120820 23:27:12< mordante> at work you more need to develop what the company needs, not what interests you per se
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20120820 23:30:38< anonymissimus> but didn't you say some colleagues use MSVC ? is that for different projects ?
20120820 23:31:17< mordante> some do for different projects
20120820 23:33:28< mordante> I'm off night
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20120820 23:40:55< Necrosporus> Health bar overlaps with unit's eye when it's facing left
20120820 23:41:00< Necrosporus> Can I do anything?
20120820 23:42:48< Necrosporus> http://tau.rghost.ru/39904808/image.png
20120820 23:43:37< Necrosporus> also something's wrong with cave walls
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