--- Log opened Sat Aug 25 00:00:54 2012
20120825 00:02:51< anonymissimus> jamit: it seems you looked only for the wiki documentation for these tags ? move_unit is a lua tag
20120825 00:02:59< anonymissimus> the others are coded in c++
20120825 00:03:38< anonymissimus> but you got them all, and apparently put quite some thoughts into this list, lets keep it around
20120825 00:04:19< anonymissimus> so, for a lua tag, any "interface unification" argument, which is crab's main concern AFAIK, doesn't count much
20120825 00:04:40< anonymissimus> interface unification meaning the c++ functions called by the tags
20120825 00:06:00< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: 1.10.4 windows release is uploaded.
20120825 00:21:00< fendrin> anonymissimus: What do you think about scroll_to using the scroll_to_tiles c++ method if more than one tile matches the filter?
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20120825 00:30:08< shadowm> lipkab, fendrin: There's a bug filed for the scrolling issue: https://gna.org/bugs/?18793
20120825 00:32:20< anonymissimus> fendrin: how would people specify which one is which ?
20120825 00:33:35< fendrin> shadowm: Regarding bug 18793, I could just expose more of the scroll methods and their arguments to wml and/or lua. 
20120825 00:33:59< anonymissimus> if they pass just a SLF and 2 locs match, how would they control which loc is the one to be scrolled to and which one is the secondary one which is tried to be onscreen as well ? a SLF is sort of a std::set information while that function takes ordered locations
20120825 00:35:42< shadowm> IMO the WML path should just use a better centering constant and the Lua path could have an option to override it.
20120825 00:35:57< anonymissimus> fendrin:  you talk about display::scroll_to_tiles I assume ?
20120825 00:36:03< shadowm> i.e. let Lua take care of creeping featuritis and keep the WML actions simple.
20120825 00:36:24< shadowm> Also note that I did say this affects more than just the WML actions.
20120825 00:37:35< fendrin> anonymissimus: Yes, and you are right. It would need an additional [scroll_to_tiles] tag.
20120825 00:37:47< anonymissimus> fendrin: hm well, I don't know enough what those functions actually do to judge
20120825 00:37:54< anonymissimus> without testing them
20120825 00:37:54< fendrin> And a [scroll_to_x_and_y]
20120825 00:38:40< shadowm> I think I have an idea to take care of #18793, but I won't be working on it right now and I don't want untested changes in 1.11.0 (unlike other people here), so I'll assign it to myself and take care of it later.
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20120825 00:43:46< fendrin> anonymissimus: Well, my usecase is to scroll to a unit so that all his reachable fields are on the map as well.
20120825 00:44:36< fendrin> s/map/onscreen
20120825 00:46:29< jamit> anonymissimus: Right, I made that list from the wiki documentation. I wanted to get a clear picture of what is wanted before seeing what could be done. I just forgot to add the word "provisional" somewhere in the pastebin.
20120825 01:08:57< anonymissimus> fendrin, jamit: okay
20120825 01:09:00< anonymissimus> n8
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20120825 01:37:32< zookeeper> Ivanovic, my EI commits are in, so nothing more pending from me for 1.11... i'll see if i can wake up early enough to be here before the tagging, just in case i messed up something :p
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20120825 05:36:26< vultraz> How long until the tagging? It's already the 25th, 2:36 PM for me.
20120825 05:36:47< vultraz> I'm guessing around 8 hours?
20120825 05:38:14< shadowm> vultraz: If you paid more attention...
20120825 05:38:39< vultraz> I was away..
20120825 05:38:44< shadowm> Something like yesterday UTC-04:00, or so:
20120825 05:38:46< shadowm> 19:51 <Ivanovic> AI0867, Akihara, bloodycoin, ejls, elias, Espreon, esr, fendrin, happygrue, loonycyborg, Rhonda, shadowm, Soliton, Upthorn, zookeeper, crab_, mordante, everyone else who cares: i still plan to tag 1.10.4 tomorrow (late in europe) and 1.11.0 on saturday (early!)
20120825 05:39:15< vultraz> ok so....
20120825 05:39:17< shadowm> Yes, well, I guess I'm a jerk for highlighting everyone like this.
20120825 05:39:38< shadowm> Consider it a friendly reminder.
20120825 05:39:45 * vultraz tries to figure out europe time
20120825 05:39:50< shadowm> vultraz: CET.
20120825 05:39:55< shadowm> Or CEST, I guess.
20120825 05:40:06< vultraz> 3:40 AM i think
20120825 05:40:12< shadowm> shadowm@wesnoth:~$ date
20120825 05:40:12< shadowm> Sat Aug 25 05:40:08 CEST 2012
20120825 05:40:17< shadowm> Right now.
20120825 05:40:49< vultraz> oh
20120825 05:41:36< vultraz> thanks
20120825 05:41:54< shadowm> You can assume he'll do it before noon.
20120825 05:42:10< shadowm> And after breakfast, unless he's as crazy as his email address suggests.
20120825 05:42:36< vultraz> so between 4 and 7 hours
20120825 05:42:50< shadowm> I don't know at what time of the day normal people have breakfast.
20120825 05:43:01< shadowm> I presume it's something between 8 am and 10 am.
20120825 05:43:07< vultraz> that would be..between 6:30 and 9:30 for me
20120825 05:43:12< vultraz> PM
20120825 05:43:21< vultraz> perfect time
20120825 05:43:21< shadowm> You know your timezone, so you can do the math.
20120825 05:48:07< AI0867> or you can ask janebot
20120825 05:48:09< AI0867> that also works
20120825 05:48:25< AI0867> CEST is at +2, CET is +1
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20120825 05:55:02< Gambit> janebot: !time +2
20120825 05:55:03< janebot> Gambit: 5:55:01
20120825 05:55:06< Gambit> ^
20120825 05:55:12< Gambit> like so for any timezone you want
20120825 05:55:36< Gambit> Although I did not know of the existence of 30-minute-offset timezones when I made it, and it still needs updated for that.
20120825 06:05:53< AI0867> there's even a 45-minute-offset timezone somewhere =P
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20120825 07:22:02< ancestral> Maybe it's just me, but this thread http://r.wesnoth.org/t37435 seems a bit… arrogant. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he's done great stuff, but will this set a precedence? Are we going to get "going away" forum posts from every developer who leaves the project?
20120825 07:22:19< shadowm> Yes!
20120825 07:22:28< shadowm> I was just going to post one, in fact.
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20120825 07:22:53< ancestral> shadow master or shikadilord?
20120825 07:23:03< shadowm> What kind of question is that?
20120825 07:24:09< ancestral> You have two identities. You'd have to make two forum posts.
20120825 07:24:31< shadowm> Last time I checked I only had one developer identity and its username does not match any of the aforementioned.
20120825 07:25:07< ancestral> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/index.php?title=User:ShikadiLord&redirect=no
20120825 07:25:22< shadowm> It says it's a redirect to User:Shadowmaster.
20120825 07:25:48< shadowm> That doesn't sound terribly relevant. Not to mention that the wiki uses a completely different user table.
20120825 07:26:05< ancestral> You're missing the point, obviously
20120825 07:26:15< shadowm> Yes, but with good reason.
20120825 07:26:30< shadowm> I'm not at all interested in chasing absurd pointless points.
20120825 07:26:48< ancestral> http://forums.wesnoth.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=107305
20120825 07:26:50< shadowm> I have enough of my precious points here.
20120825 07:26:58< shadowm> Crafted with precious metals.
20120825 07:27:15< ancestral> Now you're being nonsensical
20120825 07:27:20< shadowm> It doesn't say Developer either.
20120825 07:27:27< ancestral> True
20120825 07:28:59< shadowm> Now let me ask you one question: wouldn't it be better if everyone (developers) actually told us they are leaving?
20120825 07:29:35< shadowm> Very often they leave unmaintained crap behind and we just assume they are never going to return.
20120825 07:29:52< ancestral> Rhetorical questions do not need to be answered.
20120825 07:29:55< shadowm> You are basically complaining for the sake of complaining.
20120825 07:30:07< shadowm> The only problem with that topic is the multiple post.
20120825 07:30:52< ancestral> I'm not complaining for the sake of complaining. And I'm not really even complaining.
20120825 07:31:12< shadowm> Excellent, then there's no need to call anything or anone arrogant.
20120825 07:31:20< shadowm> *anyone
20120825 07:31:41< ancestral> Or am I? One moment
20120825 07:31:58< ancestral> express dissatisfaction or annoyance about a state of affairs or an event
20120825 07:32:10< ancestral> Hmm, I stand corrected.
20120825 07:32:27< ancestral> But, the difference is, I'll gladly move on.
20120825 07:33:17< shadowm> I don't think anyone ever implied persistence.
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20120825 07:35:40< ancestral> No, unlike that post, which draws attention to himself, with multiple posts, this is the last time I'll bring this up.
20120825 07:35:55< ancestral> :)
20120825 07:36:25< shadowm> As much as it bothers me, I am not currently on duty so it'll have to be cleaned up by the green suits.
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20120825 07:37:35< ancestral> I'm going to hope it's these guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHPfsrSbbec
20120825 07:39:44< shadowm> Nah.
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20120825 08:11:33< Ivanovic> moin
20120825 08:18:27< shadowm> Ivanovic: Can you confirm that there really is no way to configure the CIA hook at Gna.org before I pester them in their support racker[D[D[D[D[D[Dt?
20120825 08:18:30< shadowm> *tracker
20120825 08:18:58< Ivanovic> shadowm: i know of no way to configure anything cia related at gna.org
20120825 08:19:03< shadowm> Their documentation is lacking in that regard and I obviously can't see the admin options.
20120825 08:19:17< shadowm> Ivanovic: Well, did you check?
20120825 08:20:25< shadowm> I don't want to file a tracker item to them without making sure first that I'm not being an ignorant demanding troglodyte.
20120825 08:20:27< Ivanovic> https://gna.org/cookbook/?func=detailitem&comingfrom=2813&item_id=209
20120825 08:20:31< Ivanovic> that is all info available
20120825 08:20:40< shadowm> That's the documentation.
20120825 08:20:44< Ivanovic> yes
20120825 08:20:53< shadowm> I did say their documentation is lacking in that regard.
20120825 08:20:54< Ivanovic> and there they mention nothing that could be configured at gna
20120825 08:21:01< shadowm> Not all options have to be documented.
20120825 08:21:08< Ivanovic> and i said there is no option in the gna stuff
20120825 08:21:09< shadowm> You know the drill.
20120825 08:21:33< shadowm> Okay, I'll file it then.
20120825 08:23:33< shadowm> Oh wait, I just remembered that nobody dealt with the licensing clarifications.
20120825 08:23:57< shadowm> I had contacted you back then hoping you'd do it since it's sort of your thing as project admin.
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20120825 08:25:00< shadowm> Exactly how much time remaining before the tag?
20120825 08:25:41< Ivanovic> about 2:30
20120825 08:27:22< shadowm> Huh. shikadibot is in the mainline credits.
20120825 08:27:51 * zookeeper yawns
20120825 08:28:03< zookeeper> well of course (s)he is
20120825 08:31:34< shadowm> Hm, I changed my mind. I'll do the licensing clarifications thing after 1.11.0 and post in the mailing list that I did in case anyone wants to voice a relevant opinion after the fact.
20120825 08:35:24< shadowm> So I filed that issue: https://gna.org/support/index.php?2953
20120825 08:37:02< shadowm> No idea whether they look at that tracker anymore, but you at least have something to link to if anyone here ever asks why CIA _appears_ to not be working.
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20120825 08:45:50< mordante> servus
20120825 08:46:47< mordante> Ivanovic, I'm not entirely happy with the systemd patch for CMake, so I either want to fix it or disable it before you tag
20120825 08:47:05< Ivanovic> mordante: okay, a little more than 2h are still left to do so
20120825 08:47:26< mordante> Ivanovic, I know, that's why I wanted to give you a heads up
20120825 08:47:54-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: tagged 1.10.4, announcing soon | 1.11.0 planned for 25th August, 11:00 CEST| 183 bugs, 338 feature requests, 18 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20120825 08:48:37< shadowm> Ivanovic: Just remember that you can't tag before the add-ons server port number is fixed in SVN.
20120825 08:49:04< shadowm> Otherwise the trunk client will be downloading and uploading from the 1.10 add-ons server by default, which would be highly unusual.
20120825 08:50:12< Ivanovic> shadowm: give me a minuite to check a free port and i will just set it to that port
20120825 08:50:23< Ivanovic> for the moment there won't be an addon server then, but that should be fine
20120825 08:50:41< shadowm> I thought Soliton is going to take care of that; it was just a reminder.
20120825 08:52:12< shadowm> I suppose any port number above 15000 should work; I have no idea if the port numbers used by Wesnoth services are actually supposed to follow a specific pattern.
20120825 08:52:51< shadowm> Other than the obvious 15000 and below for wesnothd, and above 15000 for campaignd.
20120825 08:53:00< Ivanovic> shadowm: i don't think he will do so before 1.11.0
20120825 08:53:04< Ivanovic> considering he is still off
20120825 08:53:15< Ivanovic> and not any number will work, since some are already used
20120825 08:53:32< Ivanovic> wesnoth/campaignserver_client.py:    portmap = (("15002", "1.10.x"), ("15002", "1.9.x"), ("15004", "trunk"), ("15001", "1.8.x"), ("15003", "1.6.x"), ("15005", "1.4.x"))
20120825 08:53:47< Ivanovic> looks like 15006 will be a good choice for the moment...
20120825 08:54:24< shadowm> 1.2.x doesn't get to have a port number, or 1.2.x clients are just meant to choke on the response from one of the other campaignds?
20120825 08:55:41< shadowm> I seem to recall interesting behavior from clients using the old binary WML protocol on a newer (post 1.5.something) compressing server and viceversa.
20120825 08:56:00< fendrin> Ivanovic: Hello
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20120825 08:58:24< Ivanovic> shadowm: honestly i don't care much about the old versions
20120825 08:58:27< Ivanovic> hi fendrin
20120825 08:58:35< shadowm> I know you don't. :)
20120825 08:59:42< fendrin> Ivanovic: Just commited the last backtransformations of maps. Let me do another grep to be sure I didn't miss one.
20120825 09:00:15< Ivanovic> shadowm: and using 1.2 these days and still expecting updates/addons to work is, uhm, strange...
20120825 09:00:16< Ivanovic> ;)
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20120825 09:03:09< Ivanovic> shadowm: committed the change of the port
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20120825 09:04:33< shadowm> Great.
20120825 09:04:57< AI0867> shikadibot: log HEAD
20120825 09:04:57< shikadibot> AI0867: Revision 55096 (ivanovic) on Sat Aug 25 07:02:48 2012:
20120825 09:04:57< shikadibot> AI0867: switched the addon server port to 15006, the server is not running on this port yet
20120825 09:05:01< shikadibot> AI0867: @timotei: also changed the umc plugin to this port by default, please check my java changes
20120825 09:05:04< shikadibot> AI0867: @soliton: please setup an addon server for trunk on this port
20120825 09:05:07< shikadibot> AI0867: Web interface URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=55096
20120825 09:06:42< mordante> shikadibot: log HEAD
20120825 09:06:42< shikadibot> mordante: Revision 55099 (mordante) on Sat Aug 25 07:06:19 2012:
20120825 09:06:42< shikadibot> mordante: Disable the systemd installation for CMake.
20120825 09:06:42< shikadibot> mordante:  
20120825 09:06:42< shikadibot> mordante: It has the following issues:
20120825 09:06:42< shikadibot> mordante: (+7 discarded lines)
20120825 09:06:45< shikadibot> mordante: Web interface URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=55099
20120825 09:06:45< fendrin> Ivanovic: Okay, done.
20120825 09:06:53< mordante> Ivanovic, ^^
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20120825 09:19:41< shadowm> Hm.
20120825 09:19:57< shadowm> mordante: There is no multi-line textbox in GUI2 yet, right?
20120825 09:20:29< mordante> shadowm, yes
20120825 09:21:09< shadowm> Is that a "yes, you are right", or a "yes, there is"?
20120825 09:22:13< mordante> the former
20120825 09:22:37< shadowm> Hm, that's quite unfortunate. Do you think it'd be too difficult to implement one?
20120825 09:23:29< mordante> not sure, don't think too hard
20120825 09:23:31< Rhonda> shadowm, are you really leaving?  :/
20120825 09:23:55< shadowm> Rhonda: No.
20120825 09:24:00< Rhonda> k
20120825 09:29:28< Ivanovic> looking good so far in r55099
20120825 09:29:41< Ivanovic> all campaigns can at least be started, the mp server (trunk still) can be joined
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20120825 09:34:10< shadowm> Ivanovic: When testing campaigns you go as far as to land on the Objectives screen at the start of the first turn, right?
20120825 09:34:49< Ivanovic> shadowm: sometimes, sometimes i just hit esc after the gamescreen comes up, since that is the time when all wml has long been parsed
20120825 09:35:01< Ivanovic> and the check if parsing actually works is what is relevant to me
20120825 09:35:29< shadowm> I have been trying out timotei's --preprocess switch to automate preprocessor and parser error detection in my UMC over 9 test cases (three episodes with three difficulty levels each).
20120825 09:35:43< timotei> Ivanovic: Yup. You've made the right changes in the UMC IDE :)
20120825 09:36:16< shadowm> But I guess that's not as safe as ensuring to be able to land on the Objectives screen yet.
20120825 09:36:45< Ivanovic> shadowm: it is rather close
20120825 09:36:58< Ivanovic> since if the stuff parses it should work at least till the objectives
20120825 09:37:20< Ivanovic> a lot can happen in general with lua and events involved
20120825 09:38:00< shadowm> Yeah, it'd be nice if it was possible to automate some crude playtesting for each case (e.g. let the AI play all sides for turn 1).
20120825 09:38:50< Ivanovic> yes, some automated testing there would be great
20120825 09:39:02< Ivanovic> some testing checking all campaigns in all difficulty levels for at least the first turn
20120825 09:39:13< Ivanovic> especially if this testing was scripted!
20120825 09:39:15< timotei> AI vs AI?
20120825 09:39:26< timotei> That would require some lua-testing framework I'd say
20120825 09:39:32< timotei> s/some/a
20120825 09:39:41< Ivanovic> ai instead of human, just to see if any errors occur
20120825 09:39:46< shadowm> mordante: All the "exception caught" errors I get when running the Boost.test-based test suite as of r55096 are normal and expected?
20120825 09:39:50< timotei> I see
20120825 09:39:53< shadowm> (trunk)
20120825 09:40:30< Ivanovic> okay, the next hour will be taken by running optipng optimization on trunk
20120825 09:43:21< vultraz> janebot: !time + 2
20120825 09:43:22< janebot> vultraz: Yep. 
20120825 09:43:27< vultraz> uh
20120825 09:43:34< vultraz> janebot: time + 2
20120825 09:43:35< janebot> vultraz: Nope. 
20120825 09:44:03< zookeeper> Ivanovic, i just committed some images
20120825 09:44:55< Ivanovic> thanks for the warning, i am not at the thot images yet, so that will work
20120825 09:46:13< zookeeper> ok, also committed a few to UtBS... i don't think i have any more coming
20120825 09:47:16< vultraz> janebot: !time +2
20120825 09:47:17< janebot> vultraz: 9:47:15
20120825 09:49:03< vultraz> I still have a patch to Thousand Stings Garrison I need Alarantalara's ok to commit (made it use the campfire terrain instead of {ANIMATED_CAMPFIRE})
20120825 09:49:25< shadowm> Is there a campfire terrain in mainline now?
20120825 09:50:23< shadowm> Hm. Yes, I see it. No, I don't intend to review your patch, I'm busy trying to make sense of a bunch of numbers and names.
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20120825 09:53:00< vultraz> Espreon: how did you convert those maps back to the old format?
20120825 09:53:22< shadowm> vultraz: Espreon is still away for a while.
20120825 09:58:15< zookeeper> ok, i think i'm done as far as 1.11 is concerned...
20120825 10:00:35< fendrin> vultraz: I do it manually since it is very easy.
20120825 10:02:53< Rhonda> Ivanovic: Already downloaded. ;)
20120825 10:03:02< Ivanovic> Rhonda: 1.10.4?
20120825 10:03:10< Rhonda> yep
20120825 10:03:24< vultraz> wesbot: seen Alarantalara
20120825 10:03:25< wesbot> vultraz: The person with the nick Alarantalara last spoke 2d 12h ago.  1d 17h ago they left with the message: Quit: Leaving.
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20120825 10:03:34< Rhonda> duh
20120825 10:03:41< Rhonda> Maybe it should go to experimental though  %-/
20120825 10:03:53< Rhonda> I think I really need to push the fontfix into wheezy …
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20120825 10:10:10< timotei> http://www.nczonline.net/blog/2012/08/22/the-innovations-of-internet-explorer/
20120825 10:10:16< timotei> For the web developers out there
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20120825 10:17:39< Ivanovic> okay, images are recompressed
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20120825 10:20:19< Ivanovic> i am off now for maybe 40 min (got to do some shopping...), will release once back
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20120825 10:24:59< Rhonda> Ivanovic: I won't upload 1.10.4 to unstable, it will go to experimental.
20120825 10:31:45< fendrin> zookeeper, shadowm, AI0867: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=37453
20120825 10:33:55< shadowm> I do that in my campaign with some ugly workaround using a custom [store_direction] action.
20120825 10:34:46< shadowm> I think that's all I have to say on the matter. I'll look at the syntax proposal later.
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20120825 10:58:26< vultraz> janebot: !time +2
20120825 10:58:26< janebot> vultraz: 10:58:25
20120825 10:59:05< vultraz> crap no time to get that patch in
20120825 11:00:21< shadowm> fendrin: It'd have to be [filter_second] for consistency, but I'd prefer it to be [face] or something like that.
20120825 11:00:27< shadowm> As in, "to face".
20120825 11:01:05< fendrin> Yes
20120825 11:01:15< shadowm> I do think that it's not terribly necessary to have syntax for this because it... how do I put it... uh... may currently be performed... using other WML actions.
20120825 11:01:19< fendrin> That is short and nice.
20120825 11:01:37< shadowm> Most cutscenes in mainlines don't even require a lot of facing changes.
20120825 11:02:15< shadowm> *mainline
20120825 11:02:25< fendrin> Yeah, it's pure syntactic sugar.
20120825 11:03:03< shadowm> I'm not sure how I'd feel about the facing attribute having different meaning and syntax in that context though.
20120825 11:03:38< fendrin> right, there is already a facing that takes directions.
20120825 11:03:54< Ivanovic> re
20120825 11:04:20< shadowm> And I guess I don't know if there are even single words for the facing mode values you propose.
20120825 11:04:23< Ivanovic> time for the release...
20120825 11:05:11< Ivanovic> fendrin: was the removal of the fix in LoW intentional?
20120825 11:05:16< Ivanovic> meaning: the changelog entry for that fix
20120825 11:05:38< fendrin> Ivanovic: Yes, it is a duplicate. Look some 3 or 5 lines above the line.
20120825 11:05:51< Ivanovic> ah, okay
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20120825 11:06:13< Ivanovic> now to run the pot-update, then the version bump and then packaging...
20120825 11:06:15< shadowm> These multiple-times-delayed releases suck because the changelog becomes absolutel yunreadable.
20120825 11:06:40< Ivanovic> okay, there is an error in the EI files
20120825 11:07:46< Ivanovic> some invalid utf char reported...
20120825 11:09:11< fendrin> Ivanovic: Let's just ship without it, I never liked Eastern Invasion.
20120825 11:09:32< Ivanovic> fendrin: lets better find out what it really complains about and fix that
20120825 11:09:53< fendrin> Ivanovic: What are you executing to get the message?
20120825 11:10:01< Ivanovic> the pot-update
20120825 11:10:14< fendrin> scons pot-update ?
20120825 11:10:43< ejls> Hey, can I commit a little change now? It's just the removal of an assert.
20120825 11:10:47< zookeeper> Ivanovic, hmh?
20120825 11:10:55< ejls> fendrin: (a bit late yeah)
20120825 11:11:29< fendrin> ejls: I have tested removing the assert as well, it didn't cause any problems.
20120825 11:12:18< Ivanovic> okay, in fact the error seems to be in lib
20120825 11:12:23< ejls> fendrin: I was worried about other players inserting action between two turns.
20120825 11:12:27< Ivanovic> utf8 "\x92" does not map to Unicode at /src/wesnoth/utils/wmlxgettext line 68, <FILE> line 239.
20120825 11:12:29< Ivanovic> Malformed UTF-8 character (fatal) at /src/wesnoth/utils/wmlxgettext line 90, <FILE> line 239.
20120825 11:12:30< Ivanovic> make[3]: *** [/src/wesnoth/po/wesnoth-lib/wesnoth-lib.wml.pot] Fehler 25
20120825 11:12:32< Ivanovic> m
20120825 11:12:40< ejls> fendrin: but, yeah, it seems to work. :)
20120825 11:12:55< fendrin> fabi@sepia:~/wesnoth_develop/trunk$ the pot-update
20120825 11:12:56< fendrin> The program 'the' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
20120825 11:12:58< fendrin> sudo apt-get install the
20120825 11:13:01< ejls> fendrin: Anyway, the worst that can happen is for unit_has_action to return a wrong value.
20120825 11:14:06< shadowm> Ivanovic: Idea: Future development releases should be preceded by a two days long string freeze.
20120825 11:14:53< Ivanovic> fendrin: make pot-update
20120825 11:15:21< Ivanovic> so it is "the pot-update of the cmake command stuff, but you need to activate a cmake switch to be able to actually call it"
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20120825 11:18:27< fendrin> scons pot-update gives me the error line as well.
20120825 11:18:52< Ivanovic> of course it does since some WML file seems to  be malformed
20120825 11:19:57< vultraz> can I still commit the Thousand Strings Garrison map patch?
20120825 11:26:22< Ivanovic> only if you really hurry
20120825 11:27:06< zookeeper> so nothing for me to fix, eh?
20120825 11:27:10 * zookeeper goes afk then
20120825 11:28:21< Ivanovic> esr: it would be really great if you had a look at wmllint in trunk
20120825 11:28:29< Ivanovic> it seems to be quire borked / hitting many issues
20120825 11:29:21< esr> Ivanovic: What, has someone been modifying it?  It was in good shape when  I last touched it.
20120825 11:29:42< Ivanovic> esr: it seems to be out of sync with some changes, e.g. map stuff done by fendrin
20120825 11:29:48< Ivanovic> at least trunk is not wmllint clean atm
20120825 11:30:06< esr> Eh?  fendrin just told me he was abandoning that plan.
20120825 11:30:34< Ivanovic> esr: just try to run wmllint on trunk and watch the results
20120825 11:30:52 * shadowm raises eyebrow.
20120825 11:31:40< esr> And trunk often drifts away from being wmllint clean.  This is not a problem with wmllint, it's a problem with sloppy trunk code that you haven't noticed much because I used to *fix* it.
20120825 11:32:29< fendrin> Well, I haven't used wmllint very much lately. It wasn't maintained much and reported all sorts of false positives.
20120825 11:32:41< Ivanovic> esr: is there a way to only apply this line of wmllint? value = value.replace("\xe2\x88\x92", " ")  # UTF-8 minus sign
20120825 11:32:51< esr> If you want tome to do a fix pas maybe I can find tyime, but this is not evidence that wnllint is broken. On the contrary, its doing its job.
20120825 11:32:57< Ivanovic> since the \x92 seems to be leading to issues and i seem to not be able to grep for it
20120825 11:33:48< esr> Only apply that one line?  No, you'd have to write a custom script.
20120825 11:34:07< Ivanovic> esr: that is the line i clearly want to have applied, hoping that it takes care of the issue
20120825 11:35:12< esr> Ivanovic: And wmllint is not doing that now.  Seems like a simple enough change - you couldn't get any of the project's Python fans to do it?
20120825 11:35:14< vultraz> er crap error when trying to load the map via the scen file...
20120825 11:35:20< vultraz> probably won't get it in
20120825 11:36:29< Ivanovic> which python fans are there around?
20120825 11:36:43< Ivanovic> and i just want this freaking char gone from the wesnoth-lib domain so that i can just release
20120825 11:36:56< Ivanovic> might be a case of someone commiting a file in wrong charset or something like this
20120825 11:37:33< fendrin> Ivanovic, esr: I am currently cleaning what wmllint reports.
20120825 11:37:46< esr> Oh, good.
20120825 11:50:41< Ivanovic> okay, now things start to really fail in many places around here...
20120825 11:53:17< Ivanovic> getting it for different text domains, sometimes lib, sometimes mainfile, sometimes editor, sometimes ei, ...
20120825 11:53:28< lipkab> It's funny that these errors keep hiding until the very last minute :P
20120825 11:54:48< vultraz> can't figure out why I keep getting this error for opening the TSG map via its scen file
20120825 11:55:08< vultraz> even with changes reverted
20120825 11:55:13< fendrin> esr, Ivanovic: Trunk is now wmllint clean, but be aware that I can't run the python spellchecker here.
20120825 11:56:17< fendrin> esr, Ivanovic: The pot-update is still failing, wmllint seems to fail in recognizing the bug, at least without spellcheck.
20120825 11:56:28< vultraz> fendrin: 20120825 20:53:12 warning editor: wml error in load map : A terrain with a string with more than 4 characters has been found, the affected terrain is :border_size=1 <- when loading the TSG map vis the scen file, with all changes reverted, in old format
20120825 11:56:54< vultraz> yet the map itself will open fine if you go to the map file..
20120825 11:57:06< fendrin> TSG?
20120825 11:57:27< vultraz> Thousand Stings Garrison (the mp map)
20120825 11:57:41< fendrin> vultraz: Is it in mainline?
20120825 11:57:54< vultraz> yes
20120825 11:58:00< vultraz> does it open for you?
20120825 11:58:08< fendrin> vultraz: please point me to it.
20120825 11:58:15< fendrin> where is that file?
20120825 11:59:05< vultraz> data/multiplayer/maps/2p_Thousand_Stings_Garrison.map  / data/multiplayer/scenarios/2p_Thousand_Stings_Garrison.cfg
20120825 12:00:00< shadowm> fendrin: r55110 appears to introduce a CR-LF sequence to data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/utils/animations.cfg for some reason.
20120825 12:00:05< vultraz> if I open the map file, it's file. If I load the scen file, I get that error (loading the scenfile works in other cases...)
20120825 12:00:27< shadowm> fendrin: Or maybe the whole file uses CR-LF; never mind.
20120825 12:01:13< shadowm> I guess svn:eol-style isn't set for that file.
20120825 12:02:09< vultraz> oh wait, I think I may have found the problem...
20120825 12:02:18< shadowm> fendrin: In r55113, the replacement should still be id, not speaker.
20120825 12:02:36< vultraz> because building with xcode causes a copy of the data folder to be created within the app
20120825 12:04:19< vultraz> fendrin: ok it works, it was a problem with my copy
20120825 12:05:36< fendrin> shadowm: Are you on it or shall I do the fix?
20120825 12:06:15< fendrin> maybe the commit messages of that bot could come in handy today.
20120825 12:07:11< shadowm> fendrin: You can do it.
20120825 12:07:15< shadowm> I'm leaving now.
20120825 12:08:40< vultraz> CIA would really come in handy right now...
20120825 12:09:29< shadowm> Yes, don't worry, I got the Gna.org people on the case... or I would if they actually read the support trakcer.
20120825 12:09:50< shadowm> It was worth a shot, though.
20120825 12:10:00< vultraz> at least it works for umc dev :P
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20120825 12:10:43< shadowm> No, I think wesnoth-umc-dev's case was just a happy coincidence.
20120825 12:10:52< vultraz> ok got the TSG map thing committed
20120825 12:15:38< Ivanovic> zookeeper: the error is your fault!
20120825 12:20:22< Ivanovic> you changed lake vrug, added an apostroph and did not store correctly as utf8
20120825 12:21:55< fendrin> Ivanovic, esr: make unresolved still reports some problems with macro signatures.
20120825 12:23:39< fendrin> Ivanovic, esr: http://pastebin.com/c9HQKtcL
20120825 12:25:26< fendrin> AI0867: http://pastebin.com/x5FHfMcW
20120825 12:26:00< esr> fendrin: Odd. Looks like there are two different definitions of APPROACH_LEADER visible.
20120825 12:26:54< fendrin> esr: Maybe that is a problem with one of the installed addons.
20120825 12:27:20< esr> Wait, no..  One definition.
20120825 12:27:47< esr> But its formals tell wmllint to expect numeric arguments rather than ranges.
20120825 12:28:25< esr> You need to change the names of the formals to tell it they're spans.
20120825 12:34:24< fendrin> esr: Hmmm, I don't get it right now. I need a little break from coding.
20120825 12:35:17< fendrin> Ivanovic: That wmlscope reports are only cosmetical, you can release without a fix.
20120825 12:36:51< Ivanovic> okay
20120825 12:37:03< Ivanovic> running the real pot-update now
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20120825 12:59:37< Ivanovic> okay, looking good so far, uploading tarball to wesnoth.org already
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20120825 13:45:35< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: upload folder for 1.11.0: frs.sourceforge.net:/home/frs/project/w/we/wesnoth/wesnoth/wesnoth-1.11.0/
20120825 13:46:45-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: tagged 1.11.0, announcing soon | tagged 1.10.4, announcing soon | 183 bugs, 338 feature requests, 18 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20120825 13:49:10< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: I've event wrote a python script to generate those :P
20120825 13:49:14< loonycyborg> *even
20120825 13:49:35< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: cheater!
20120825 13:49:36< Ivanovic> ;)
20120825 13:49:51-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: tagged 1.11.0, announcing soon | tagged 1.10.4, announcing soon | 182 bugs, 338 feature requests, 18 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20120825 13:56:17< Ivanovic> okay, post release version bump done, too
20120825 13:56:22< Ivanovic> trunk is free for changes again!
20120825 13:58:23< shadowm> svn rm data/campaigns/Northern_Rebirth
20120825 13:58:28< shadowm> Oops.
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20120825 14:07:05< Ivanovic> shadowm: shame on you, you forgot the -r!
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20120825 15:09:28< lipkab> Wow... Mageia has taken over Ubuntu on DistroWatch.
20120825 15:10:07< lipkab> I don't really understand all this hype around Mageia, it couldn't even install on my machine...
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20120825 15:23:29< Soliton> err, there is a 1.11.0 tag but no 1.11 branch?
20120825 15:24:31< mordante> Soliton, no the 1.11 branch is trunk
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20120825 15:40:56< Soliton> ok, 1.11 add-on server is running.
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20120825 15:55:01< Ivanovic> Soliton: there are only branches for stable series
20120825 15:55:03< Ivanovic> ;)
20120825 15:55:21< Soliton> yeah, had to figure out how everything is setup again.
20120825 15:57:47< Soliton> 1.11 mp server is running as well now.
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20120825 16:01:31< Ivanovic> Soliton: maybe take some notes as howto
20120825 16:01:33< Ivanovic> ;)
20120825 16:10:38< jamit> shikadibot: log HEAD
20120825 16:10:39< shikadibot> jamit: Revision 55124 (jamit) on Sat Aug 25 14:06:46 2012:
20120825 16:10:39< shikadibot> jamit: Split actions.cpp into six pieces (into a new "actions" subdirectory).
20120825 16:10:42< shikadibot> jamit:  
20120825 16:10:45< shikadibot> jamit: Most of the project files have also been updated, but I ran into some
20120825 16:10:48< shikadibot> jamit: (+1 discarded lines)
20120825 16:10:51< shikadibot> jamit: Web interface URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=55124
20120825 16:11:33< jamit> The discarded line: I ran into problems trying to update the Xcode and VC9 project files.
20120825 16:11:59< jamit> (Really? Discard a line so you can fit in a message saying a line was discarded?)
20120825 16:13:44< jamit> Fun fact: before the split, changing actions.hpp resulted in a recompile of 57 files. After the split, changing one of the new headers results in a recompile of 9, 39, 15, 2, 10, or 26 files (depending on which header).
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20120825 16:18:52< anonymissimus> shadowm: whatÄs horribly redacted about the lua release notes ? (crab wrote that I suppose)
20120825 16:20:30< anonymissimus> and it's bad you left away the sentence about some of the changes having immediate effect
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20120825 16:21:22< anonymissimus> well, I doubt many people read that, and it's probably too late anyway...I can write something in the forum if neccessary
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20120825 16:31:09< anonymissimus> what a crazy series of last-minute fixes, this really ain't good
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20120825 16:42:30< Necrosporus> Is it already fine to start downloading?
20120825 16:46:08< loonycyborg> That depends on what you want to download :P
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20120825 17:04:09< Necrosporus> loonycyborg, wesnoth 1.10.4 source for me and windows exe for friedns
20120825 17:04:57< loonycyborg> 1.10.4 is already available, both as source and .exe
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20120825 17:05:57< Necrosporus> I see, I just wonder if it may suddenly appear to have a bug which removes /home or something
20120825 17:06:11< Necrosporus> And would be rapidly recompiled and so on
20120825 17:09:13< loonycyborg> 1.10 branch is bugfix only. It's very unlikely that something like that happens.
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20120825 17:14:56< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: 1.11.0 windows installer is uploaded.
20120825 17:15:53< mordante> jamit, no compilation issues with CMake
20120825 17:16:15< jamit> That's good.
20120825 17:16:38< anonymissimus> fendrin: [message]+facing etc idea looks good
20120825 17:16:53< anonymissimus> fendrin: the tag name should be filter_second like in other tags of course
20120825 17:19:06< fendrin> anonymissimus: shadowm thought about [face]
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20120825 17:26:49< zookeeper> Ivanovic, my fault? uh, oh :x
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20120825 17:29:34< zookeeper> hrhm. so this apostrophe silliness means i must take special care to remember to save stuff as utf-8? great. -.-
20120825 17:37:27< anonymissimus> jamit: no special problems with MSVC it seems; I'll commit the update
20120825 17:37:43< jamit> thanks
20120825 17:38:11< anonymissimus> jamit: and I certainly appreciate you checked codeblocks
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20120825 17:39:21< anonymissimus> fendrin: yes, that's better
20120825 17:40:09< jamit> The VC9 file was surprisingly difficult to modify. Not sure how it's encoded, but just opening the file and saving it (no changes made) caused SVN to report all the lines changed. *shrug* I tried a few variations (e.g. different line endings), but each line was still changed.
20120825 17:40:12< anonymissimus> fendrin: although in [kill] we already have a case with a filter_second tag with a filter tag
20120825 17:40:33< jamit> Then again, it Microsoft, so it might be best to let their program mess with it. :)
20120825 17:40:49< jamit> s/it/it's/
20120825 17:40:58< anonymissimus> you probably wrote lf eols
20120825 17:41:35< fendrin> anonymissimus: The scrolling action before the message gets displayed could try to get all units which are involved in the speak onscreen.
20120825 17:42:12< anonymissimus> although if you are sure aou write crlf eols then there shouldn't be changes; I never tried that in my linux dual boot however
20120825 17:42:17< fendrin> anonymissimus: That avoids annoying scrolling during the dialog when unnecessary.
20120825 17:42:55< anonymissimus> fendrin: an sensible idea to care for your idea from last night yes
20120825 17:43:15< jamit> I *think* I tried writing cr-lf endings, but I wouldn't be surprised if I something went wrong with that.
20120825 17:44:18< jamit> fendrin: Would it be better to add new functionality to [message] or to add a new tag for modifying unit facings?
20120825 17:45:04< jamit> fendrin: A new tag that takes a SUF and a SLF could cause all matching units to face the first matching location. Add in a boolean flag to get facing away from the location.
20120825 17:45:49< jamit> fendrin: As a bonus, you would not have to come up with names for the various combinations of facing towards and away.
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20120825 18:01:12< anonymissimus> jamit: such tag should be a lua tag probably
20120825 18:01:26< anonymissimus> everything needed is there
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20120825 18:33:23< ancestral> Is BFW in the Ubuntu Software Centre?
20120825 18:34:36< ancestral> Looks like it is
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20120825 21:55:46< mordante> I'm off night
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20120825 22:46:13< shadowm> Soliton: I can't connect to the 1.11.x add-ons server. Is it still
20120825 22:46:34< shadowm> Oops, pressed enter accidentally.
20120825 22:46:59< shadowm> Hm, I see it's listening on 15006 but I get a connection refused error here at the client side.
20120825 22:47:46< shadowm> Or I _suspect_ it is what is listening on 15006 anyway.
20120825 22:47:46< shadowm> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:15006           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               
20120825 22:49:04< shadowm> Can anyone else confirm that 1.11.0 can't connect to the add-ons server on 15006?
20120825 22:49:35< shadowm> anonymissimus: Did I leave out something from the Lua notes?
20120825 22:50:40< anonymissimus> shadowm: IIRC yes, some note about that some of the changes are not covered by the compatibility mode
20120825 22:51:40< shadowm> No.
20120825 22:51:47< shadowm> Did you check the diff?
20120825 23:21:04< loonycyborg> shadowm: It didn't connect for me when I tried the default port.
20120825 23:21:20< shadowm> The default port is 15006. See the admin channel.
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20120825 23:39:33< shadowm> Hm, it looks like people committed a lot of things after I last fetched this morning.
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